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Post by TightHEAD Sat 13 Feb 2021, 10:00 pm

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Wales v England

27th Feb

KO 16:46

England:

Daly;
Watson,
Slade,
Farrell,
May;
Ford,
Youngs;
M Vunipola,
George,
Sinckler,
Itoje,
Hill,
Wilson,
Curry,
B Vunipola.

Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Genge, Stuart, Ewels, Martin, Earl, Robson, Malins.

WALES

1. Wyn Jones (32 Caps)
2. Ken Owens (79 Caps)
3. Tomas Francis (54 Caps)
4. Adam Beard (23 Caps)
5. Alun Wyn Jones (CAPT) (145 Caps)
6. Josh Navidi (25 Caps)
7. Justin Tipuric (82 Caps)
8. Taulupe Faletau (83 Caps)
9. Kieran Hardy (3 Caps)
10. Dan Biggar (89 Caps)
11. Josh Adams (29 Caps)
12. Jonathan Davies (85 Caps)
13. George North (99 Caps)
14. Louis Rees-Zammit (6 Caps)
15. Liam Williams (68 Caps)

Replacements:

16. Elliot Dee (34 Caps)
17. Rhodri Jones (19 Caps)
18. Leon Brown (14 Caps)
19. Cory Hill (29 Caps)
20. James Botham (4 Caps)
21. Gareth Davies (59 Caps)
22. Callum Sheedy (6 Caps)
23. Uilisi Halaholo (1 Cap)


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Post by Heaf Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:07 pm

Jiffy saying the ref is his MOM was funny though

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Post by king_carlos Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:07 pm

England are moving the ball and making headway but the Wales defence out wide has been good on the scramble. North using his experience well, plus Adams and Williams are excellent positionally.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:07 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Are Enlgand missing the sheer power and Strength of Underhill...
Jamie Noon

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Post by king_carlos Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:07 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Are Enlgand missing the sheer power and Strength of Underhill...
It's difficult not to. The things Underhill does well he does as well as any.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:08 pm

Bringing off Beard is a bad move.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:08 pm

God daly has become a below average international.

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Post by miltonkeynesengland Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:08 pm

Has Dale got soap on his hands??

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:08 pm

Daly drops another one...

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Post by eirebilly Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:09 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Are Enlgand missing the sheer power and Strength of Underhill...

I actually think they are missing a ball playing 12 myself...
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Post by bsando Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:09 pm

He's not been in the best form for England this 6N

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:09 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Are Enlgand missing the sheer power and Strength of Underhill...

Think they need a bit more than that, they look like they have been training in Weatherspoons.

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Post by king_carlos Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:09 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:God daly has become a below average international.
The drop off from his best in attack is incredibly frustrating.

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Post by tigertattie Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:09 pm

Commentary team still saying “he’s knocked it on...... maybe” and laughing.

For clarity the LRZ “knock on” wasn’t a knock on as it didn’t go forward to another player or onto the ground.

Surprisingly the refs in charge know the laws of the game
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Post by owen10ozzy Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:09 pm

Daly!!! Utterly useless! Him...Farrell & Youngs should be nowhere this team based off the year or so! They have been tripe the entire time

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:09 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Daly drops another one...
At least he is consistent.

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Post by quinsforever Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:09 pm

daly absolutely useless. for the third time so far. what a waste of a shirt

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:11 pm

Daly has never had a poor game like this. And he is one of the only players trying to attack. But it is time to get him off (the pitch).

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:11 pm

If Englands kicking mentality wasnt clear for everyone to see before hand...that right then shows why its dire watching us atm!

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:12 pm

Daly butchered that ball to may as well. Need to change things up.

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Post by tigertattie Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:12 pm

Brian Moore is gonna explode
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Post by Scottrf Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:12 pm

tigertattie wrote:Commentary team still saying “he’s knocked it on...... maybe” and laughing.

For clarity the LRZ “knock on” wasn’t a knock on as it didn’t go forward to another player or onto the ground.

Surprisingly the refs in charge know the laws of the game
It did. He knocked it forward so he has to catch it before it hits the ground or another player. Re-read the law carefully.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:12 pm

Do I have to say it about Ford again?

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Post by Poorfour Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:12 pm

Oh, so it’s a clear side entry when England do it but play on when Wales do it?
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Post by eirebilly Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:12 pm

Where the hell is Farrell in attack? England need a 12...
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Post by Heaf Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:13 pm

tigertattie wrote:Commentary team still saying “he’s knocked it on...... maybe” and laughing.

For clarity the LRZ “knock on” wasn’t a knock on as it didn’t go forward to another player or onto the ground.

Surprisingly the refs in charge know the laws of the game

Yes it was - read the actual laws as written not what people think they say ... he knocked it forwards with his hand and didn't regather it ...

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:13 pm

Poorfour wrote:Oh, so it’s a clear side entry when England do it but play on when Wales do it?
But it was the right call.

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:13 pm

And again....its like watching a school outfit play Rugby for the 1st time!!! How on earth do they not know the basics of the game. Its shocking how many penalities they give away every single game.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:13 pm

Poorfour wrote:Oh, so it’s a clear side entry when England do it but play on when Wales do it?
But it was the right call.

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Post by king_carlos Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:14 pm

George North has been superb in defence from 13.

Once again England are building pressure quickly when they go through phases.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:14 pm

tigertattie wrote:Commentary team still saying “he’s knocked it on...... maybe” and laughing.

For clarity the LRZ “knock on” wasn’t a knock on as it didn’t go forward to another player or onto the ground.

Surprisingly the refs in charge know the laws of the game

It was a knock on as he didn't re-gather the ball.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:14 pm

Nice.

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:14 pm

It would be Youngs wouldnt it! Lol!

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Post by Duty281 Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:15 pm

tigertattie wrote:Commentary team still saying “he’s knocked it on...... maybe” and laughing.

For clarity the LRZ “knock on” wasn’t a knock on as it didn’t go forward to another player or onto the ground.

Surprisingly the refs in charge know the laws of the game

Correct. It went backwards off his leg. No knock-on and a fair try.

All four qualified officials thought it was a try, not one thought it was a knock-on. Strange, eh?

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Post by Geordie Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:15 pm

doctor_grey wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:Are Enlgand missing the sheer power and Strength of Underhill...
Jamie Noon
Are you 6 year old....

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:15 pm

I'd have actually liked to see youngs knock that on so we got a pen try and williams in the bin.

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Post by king_carlos Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:15 pm

Yes Lenny. He has had a very good game in my opinion.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:15 pm

Another fake try.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:15 pm

Nice try. England should trust themselves more with ball in hand.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:16 pm

Youngs is so much better when he doesn't pass!

England the better side this half, we should go on to win this.

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Post by tigertattie Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:16 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Commentary team still saying “he’s knocked it on...... maybe” and laughing.

For clarity the LRZ “knock on” wasn’t a knock on as it didn’t go forward to another player or onto the ground.

Surprisingly the refs in charge know the laws of the game

It was a knock on as he didn't re-gather the ball.

Show me the law that says the player has to regather it. You can’t as it doesn’t exist.

It is NOT a knock on until it hits another player or the ground. He knocked it forward but then it hit himself and the ball went backwards to ground (not forwards) therefore it is not a knock on
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Post by doctor_grey Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:16 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:
doctor_grey wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:Are Enlgand missing the sheer power and Strength of Underhill...
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Are you 6 year old....
OK. I will be good. I do agree Underhill would have made a big difference.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:16 pm

Duty281 wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Commentary team still saying “he’s knocked it on...... maybe” and laughing.

For clarity the LRZ “knock on” wasn’t a knock on as it didn’t go forward to another player or onto the ground.

Surprisingly the refs in charge know the laws of the game

Correct. It went backwards off his leg. No knock-on and a fair try.

All four qualified officials thought it was a try, not one thought it was a knock-on. Strange, eh?

You miss the point where he knocked on was several steps ahead of slade making contact though. Easy mistake to make.

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Post by Geordie Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:16 pm

eirebilly wrote:Where the hell is Farrell in attack? England need a 12...

Wyeth I said Farrell was going to ge MOM.....

I lied...

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Post by owen10ozzy Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:17 pm

Duty281 wrote:Nice try. England should trust themselves more with ball in hand.

Could not be more spot on that Duty! Hence its so frustrating seeing them play the way they do...a refusal to go through the phases

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Post by doctor_grey Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:17 pm

And that was a vintage Youngs sneaky try. He has always had that eye for a gap, but haven't seen it much lately.

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Post by Scottrf Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:18 pm

tigertattie wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:
tigertattie wrote:Commentary team still saying “he’s knocked it on...... maybe” and laughing.

For clarity the LRZ “knock on” wasn’t a knock on as it didn’t go forward to another player or onto the ground.

Surprisingly the refs in charge know the laws of the game

It was a knock on as he didn't re-gather the ball.

Show me the law that says the player has to regather it. You can’t as it doesn’t exist.

It is NOT a knock on until it hits another player or the ground. He knocked it forward but then it hit himself and the ball went backwards to ground (not forwards) therefore it is not a knock on
‘ Knock-on: When a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the ball touches the ground or another player before the original player can catch it.’
When a player loses possession and it goes forward and hits a player or the ground before he can CATCH it.

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Post by Guest Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:18 pm

Ffs England, spoiling our grand slam chances!

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Post by Guest Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:19 pm

Blatant push there!

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:19 pm

doctor_grey wrote:And that was a vintage Youngs sneaky try.  He has always had that eye for a gap, but haven't seen it much lately.    

Controversial opinion here but I think he's played well today. Good battle between him and Hardy.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 27 Feb 2021, 6:20 pm

Fine hit there, nothing too see
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