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Post by Pal Joey Thu 03 Jun 2021, 10:40 am

First topic message reminder :

2021 England v NZ / World Test Championship Final

Tipping Competition Rules:

1.
Pick 2 (two) batsmen and 2 (two) bowlers from both England and New Zealand (India and NZ for the WTC Final) whom you think will score the most runs and take the most wickets. You get both batting and bowling points per innings so a bowler who scores runs has both batting and bowling scores added together.
e.g.
Conway, Williamson, Jamieson, Wagner
Sibley, Root, Broad, Anderson

2.
Pick 1 (one) fielder from each team; excluding wicket keepers for most catches in the Series.
It can be a bowler (for c&b) if you want.
e.g.
Taylor, Pope

3.
Select which wicket keeper will take the greatest number of catches, stumpings and run outs combined for each Test.
If a wicket keeper is injured then the replacement keeper's figures shall be used.
e.g.
Bracey or Watling... or "the same" amount of dismissals.

4.
Predict the Toss:
a) Who wins the toss?
e.g.
New Zealand

b) Winning captain's decision - bat or field?
e.g.
Bat

5.
a) Predict the Test result. 150 points for WTC Final.
e.g.
New Zealand

Selections must be posted a minimum one (1) hour before the commencement of play. No PM reminders shall be sent.

Scoring:

1.
1 point for every run scored by your nominated batsmen. Add together for each Test.
Bonus 20 points for 100 runs.
extra 25 points for 150 runs.
extra 40 points for 200 runs.
extra 50 points for 250 runs.
extra 60 bonus points for 300+ runs.

Note: the batting & bowling score bonuses accumulate so;

Batting:
100 runs = 120 points. A player scores 127 + 20 = 147 points.
150 runs = 195 points. A player scores 176 + 20 + 25 = 221 points.
200 runs = 285 points. A player scores 243 + 20 + 25 + 40 = 328 points.
250 runs = 385 points. A player scores 282 + 20 + 25 + 40 + 50 = 417 points
300+ runs = 445 points. A player scores 309 + 20 + 25 + 40 + 50 + 60 = 504 points.

Bowling:
20 points per wicket with a bonus 50 points for a 5-fer.
An extra 35 points for 6-fer, 40 for 7-fer, 45 for 8-fer, 50 for 9-fer.
An extra 100 bonus points for a 10-fer.

5 wickets = 100 + 50 = 150 points
6 wickets = 120 + 50 + 35 = 205 points.
7 wickets = 140 + 50 + 35 + 40 = 265 points
8 wickets = 160 + 50 + 35 + 40 + 45 = 330 points
9 wickets = 180 + 50 + 35 + 40 + 45 + 50 = 400 points
10 wickets = 200 + 50 + 35 + 40 + 45 + 50 + 100 = 520 points

Caught and bowled = 20 points for the wicket + 25 bonus points for the catch = 45 points.

2.
Fielder catches: Your nominated fieldsmen earn you 25 points per catch and 25 points for a run out.

3.
Wicket keepers: 50 points for correct selection. e,g. - Bracey or Watling.
Or if you think they will take the same number of total dismissals per innings - then nominate "the same" = 50 points.
If they take the same number of catches and stumpings (combined) and you've picked either one of the keepers - then 25 points only.

4.
a) Correctly predict who wins the toss = 15 points
b) Correctly predict what the winning Captain decides to do = 15 points - only for those with part a) above correct; no points if your a) was incorrect.

5.
a) Correctly predict the winning team for each Test = 100 points. (1st Test 50 points)
b) If you guess both Test Match outcomes correctly then there is a further 100 point bonus = 250 points.
Note: Correctly predict a "Draw" = 100 points
c) Bonus points for WTC Final = 150 points

If one (or more) of your selected players gets injured during a match or is dropped from the Test side after a match, then you’ll have the opportunity to select replacement players – either as it happens - for the injured player or before the next Test commences (for a player who gets dropped). Doesn’t have to be the actual substitute player – it can be somebody else already in the team. However, you don’t receive any of their previous points – you must start accumulating points from scratch with them.

*****

England v New Zealand
June 02-06: 1st Test at Lord's Match Drawn
June 10-14: 2nd Test at Edgbaston New Zealand won by 8 wickets and the Series 1-0

World Test Championship
India v New Zealand
June 18 - 22: Final at The Ageas Bowl, Southampton New Zealand won by 8 wickets and are the World Test Champions


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Post by Soul Requiem Fri 18 Jun 2021, 8:54 am

Taylor Nicholls Boult Southee
Kohli Pujara Bumrah Shami

Williamson Pujara

Watling

NZ Toss and bat

NZ win

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Fri 18 Jun 2021, 8:55 am

Batting - Williamson & Taylor / Pujara and Kohli

Bowling - Southee & Boult / Sharma & Bumrah

Catching - Taylor & Rahane

NZ win toss and bat

NZ win

Thanks, Pee Jay.

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Post by Duty281 Fri 18 Jun 2021, 9:08 am

1) Conway, Nicholls, Jamieson and Southee
Kohli, Rahane, Sharma and Bumrah

2) Williamson and Kohli

3) Watling

4) NZ win the toss and bowl

5) Kiwis win.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Fri 18 Jun 2021, 9:10 am

Batting - Williamson & Taylor / Pujara and Kohli

Bowling - Southee & Boult / Sharma & Bumrah

Catching - Taylor & Rahane

Keeper - Watling

NZ win toss and bat

NZ win

Thanks, Pee Jay.

Mind the windows Tino.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 18 Jun 2021, 9:40 am

Batting - Williamson and Watling / Pant and Rahane

Bowling - Jamieson and Southee / Bumrah and Ishant

Catching - Latham and Kohli

Keeper - Pant

NZ win toss and bowl

Ind win
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Post by Pal Joey Fri 18 Jun 2021, 9:45 am

Thanks everyone.

Williamson, Nicholls, Jamieson, Southee
Kohli, Pant, Jadeja, Bumrah

Latham and Kohli

Pant

India win toss and bat

India win
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Post by king_carlos Fri 18 Jun 2021, 10:55 am

Williamson, Conway, Jamieson, Boult
Kohli, Rahane, Bumrah, Ashwin

Williamson and Pujara

Watling

New Zealand win toss and bat

New Zealand win

Should be a cracker when it gets going!

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Post by Pal Joey Fri 18 Jun 2021, 11:01 am

Thanks KC.

Yes, it will be interesting to see what the winner of the toss will do. Just saw Andrew Miller's "Warp-speed sogginess" video on cricinfo. Looks like lots of water lying around outside the ground but hopefully they can mop things up quickly on field and get some play in today.

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Post by KP_fan Fri 18 Jun 2021, 11:04 am

India
Rahane & Pant
Ashwin & Jadeja

NZ
Taylor & Nicholls
Jamieson & Southee

Catchers
Rahane and Latham

WK
Pant

India wins the toss, bats first and wins
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Post by guildfordbat Fri 18 Jun 2021, 12:33 pm

Thanks again, Joey. Here goes!

Conway & Williamson. Jamieson & Southee.
Kohli & Pujara. Ashwin & Jadeja.

Taylor. Rahane.

Pant.

India win toss and bat.

NZ win.

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Post by Pal Joey Fri 18 Jun 2021, 12:45 pm

Thanks KP_Fan and Guildford.

Just awaiting JDizzle's picks and the drizzle to stop now.


I'm not suggesting the two are connected in any way whatsoever.
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Post by JDizzle Fri 18 Jun 2021, 12:55 pm

Conway, Williamson, Boult, Jamieson.
Gill, Kohli, Ishant, Bumrah.

Taylor, Kohli

Pant

NZ win toss and bat.

India win


If the rain now stops I am taking full credit PJ!

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Post by Pal Joey Fri 18 Jun 2021, 1:12 pm

Thanks mate! We're all set to go then. Smile
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Post by Pal Joey Sun 20 Jun 2021, 2:20 am

Points Table
World Test Championship Final, Day 1:

1612 James [99] *
1574 Tino [87] *
1499 Pal Joey [64]
1480 Soul Requiem [87] *
1467 Alfie [43] *
1456 Guildfordbat [72]
1318 Olly [79] *#
1290 Duty [123] *#
1284 King Carlos [128] *
1274 JDizzle [127] *
1205 KP_Fan [49]


Average score: 1405 [87]

* denotes correct pick New Zealand win toss
# denotes correct pick New Zealand elected to bowl/field

First figure - accumulative score / accumulative average score
Second figure in [brackets] - daily score / daily average

Notes:
Well done Olly and Duty for correctly picking the toss and the captain's decision.
James has slightly extended his lead over Tino to 38 points.
Calling actual Day 2 "Day 1" for 'accounting purposes'.
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Post by KP_fan Sun 20 Jun 2021, 7:03 am

Its unbelievable that no one other than me picked Kohli winning the toss 2021 England v NZ / World Test Championship Final Tipping Competition - Page 3 1f636
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Post by Pal Joey Sun 20 Jun 2021, 9:38 am

KP_fan wrote:Its unbelievable that no one other than me picked Kohli winning the toss 2021 England v NZ / World Test Championship Final Tipping Competition - Page 3 1f636

You, me and Guildford went for Kohli winning the toss. I guess we were hoping for a change in fortune for him but he would have batted anyway.
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Post by Pal Joey Mon 21 Jun 2021, 6:33 am

Points Table
World Test Championship Final, Day 2:

1817 James [205]
1801 Alfie [334]
1780 Pal Joey [281]
1754 Guildfordbat [298]
1655 Tino [81]
1628 Olly [310]
1564 JDizzle [290]
1563 Duty [273]
1562 King Carlos [278]
1524 Soul Requiem [44]
1511 KP_Fan [306]

Average score: 1651 [245]

First figure - accumulative score / accumulative average score
Second figure in [brackets] - daily score / daily average
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Post by alfie Tue 22 Jun 2021, 5:58 am

Hmm.  I might be in with a shout here if it ever stops raining. But Jadeja needs to stand up for me. (*Edit : No...James and PJ have him too. I need Pujara to outdo Kohli.)

Probably should have gone with my successful First Eng/NZ Test tactic and predicted a draw again...

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Post by Pal Joey Wed 23 Jun 2021, 8:08 am

Points Table
World Test Championship Final, Day 4:

2026 Alfie [225]
1982 James [165]
1968 Pal Joey [188]
1967 Guildfordbat [214]
1905 Tino [250]
1822 Olly [194]
1734 Duty [171]
1719 Soul Requiem [195]
1710 JDizzle [146]
1685 KP_Fan [174]
1655 King Carlos [93]

Average score: 1834 [183]

First figure - accumulative score / accumulative average score
Second figure in [brackets] - daily score / daily average
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Post by Pal Joey Thu 24 Jun 2021, 8:40 am

Points Table
World Test Championship, Final Day:

2488 Alfie [462] # *
2397 James [415] # *
2389 Guildfordbat [421] #
2375 Tino [470] # *
2212 Pal Joey [244]
2093 King Carlos [438] # *
2087 Soul Requiem [368] # *
2061 Olly [239]
2054 Duty [320] # *
1981 KP_Fan [296]
1937 JDizzle [227]

Average score: 2189 [355]

First figure - accumulative score / accumulative average score
Second figure in [brackets] - daily score / daily average

# New Zealand win = 150 points
* Watling most dismissals = 50 points
(Watling: 5 caught behinds; Pant: 1 stumping)

Special Team Scores for the WTC are as follows:

New Zealand:
990 - average player score 90.00

India:
771 - average player score 70.09


Top 10 Individual Player Scores: (using special formula for bonuses, catches, run outs, w/k dismissals)

161 Jamieson
145 Southee
124 Latham
113 Taylor
112 Shami
109 Ashwin
107 Boult
101 Watling
101 Williamson
87 Kohli

Followed by: Rohit (79), Rahane (79), Conway (73), Pant (65), Ishant (65), Wagner (60)

Notes:

Congratulations Alfie! In the end, there was no need to panic about a possible drawn result. You nailed it! clap
Excellent work too from James, Guildford and Tino who kept the pressure on Alfie and scored strongly most days.
Everyone got both the correct result (NZ) and most w/k dismissals (Watling) - except for Olly, JD, KP_F and myself.
Guildford picked the winner but opted for Pant instead of Watling. Probably due to the excess cloud cover before the start of the match. Laugh

As always it has been a thrill running this tipping competition again. It never ceases to amaze me how the order moves around so quickly over the course of a session; let alone a day. For example, Soul started this one in fifth position... then deep dived down towards the bottom before finishing comfortably mid-table... which is everyone's ultimate goal really. Except for our man Alfie of course. Smile

Let's see how we go in the next few weeks/months. I see the England - India Test Series starts on August 4 at Trent Bridge.
There's quite a lot of white ball stuff between now and then (give those a miss) but I'll most likely be up for that one (above) so stay tuned.
Like Alfie, I stayed up quite late for a few nights (the only benefit of losing time to rain delays are the early nights) and I'm really paying for it today. I blame the Euros too, however. Sport overload at the highest level... Wink


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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 24 Jun 2021, 8:41 am

Congrats Alfie, and cheers as ever for running PJ Smile
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Post by Pal Joey Thu 24 Jun 2021, 8:48 am

Thanks Olly.

That was a fantastic match to witness. I was worried we wouldn't finish it but I take my hat off to the cuzzies across the ditch.
Texted one cuz in Chch late this afternoon. His wife gave him the day off today. He's even more 'knackered' than Alfie and me. Smile
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Post by alfie Thu 24 Jun 2021, 8:51 am

Hey thanks for running this , PJ...and I should thank Jamieson and Southee too ; though I think it was actually Latham's catches that won it for me.

And well played James , guildford and Tino - was a good tight battle to the line...

You are right about overload , PJ : I am mostly avoiding spoilers and watching the Euro games back on delay on the Optus app ; but it is still murder on the sleep patterns. Gets a bit easier with the Test over now.

All good practice for the Olympics I suppose !

All good fun - look forward to the India series.

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Post by Pal Joey Thu 24 Jun 2021, 8:59 am

Yes, I watch them on delay too. Try not to see the scores when I log on to Optus (at around 9am) but I had the radio on low volume overnight and thought I heard Hungary was 1-0 up at one stage. Pity they couldn't produce the upset but England - Germany should be another classic match. Don't want Portugal or France to win this time. I'd rather see Belgium or England win it.
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Post by Soul Requiem Thu 24 Jun 2021, 9:04 am

Congrats Alfie and thank you as always to PJ.

I thought it was a tricky series of matches to predict with Conway starring on debut, Anderson struggling, Root and Williamson not excelling etc.

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Post by Pal Joey Thu 24 Jun 2021, 9:10 am

Thanks Soul, yes I agree it was a tricky series of matches.

I always feel as though I'm opting for players with great overall records but shaky recent form and willing them to come back into form again. With India... there are so many players I'd like to have in there but the "2 batsmen + 2 bowlers only" rule makes it even harder.
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Post by James100 Thu 24 Jun 2021, 9:12 am

Thanks for running this again PJ!

And congratulations Alfie, a worthy winner!

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Post by Soul Requiem Thu 24 Jun 2021, 9:14 am

Pal Joey wrote:Thanks Soul, yes I agree it was a tricky series of matches.

I always feel as though I'm opting for players with great overall records but shaky recent form and willing them to come back into form again. With India... there are so many players I'd like to have in there but the "2 batsmen + 2 bowlers only" rule makes it even harder.

I was cast adrift after the second England test so had to go for it so to speak for the WTC final, it didn't pay off but still good fun. Jamieson I felt was a bit over hyped but now having seen him bowl this summer it's clear that he's a very special talent.

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Post by Pal Joey Thu 24 Jun 2021, 9:14 am

Cheers James. You did so well and lead for most of the competition. Glad you've enjoyed it!
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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 24 Jun 2021, 9:50 am

Great stuff Pee Jay. I'm sure it is a fair amount of work but it is good fun so appreciate the effort.

I went from 1st to 4th in the blink of a 6 day test match. Sounds like a metaphor for life.

Look forward to the Eng v Ind competition.

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Post by guildfordbat Thu 24 Jun 2021, 12:01 pm

Echoing thanks to Joey and congratulations to Alfie. clap OK

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Post by JDizzle Thu 24 Jun 2021, 12:37 pm

Well done Alfie and, as ever, flawlessly run by PJ! Many thanks.

Will have to have a long hard talk with myself to arrest my slide after winning the Aus-Ind comp!

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Post by Pal Joey Thu 24 Jun 2021, 1:06 pm

You'll be back, JD.

I'm sure your pure talent, cricket knowledge and class will rise to the fore again in the not too distant future. OK
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Post by king_carlos Thu 24 Jun 2021, 2:49 pm

Thanks as always, Joey!

Thankfully a strong final day performance dragged me into mid-table at the very last gasp.

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Post by Pal Joey Thu 24 Jun 2021, 3:35 pm

Thanks KC.

4 points above the average score is the perfect place to finish! Great work. Smile
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