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Post by msp83 Sat 14 Aug 2021, 6:25 pm

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Siraj will have a couple of deliveries at Anderson. The lead is already a nice 25.

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Post by Soul Requiem Sat 28 Aug 2021, 11:19 am

Awful decision from the umpire that one.

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Post by GSC Sat 28 Aug 2021, 11:26 am

Have to agree, looked stone dead to me at first glance
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Post by alfie Sat 28 Aug 2021, 11:29 am

Robinson must be relieved that for once Hawkeye doesn't have one of his going over the top of the stumps. He has hit the pads a lot with his nip-backers in this match and been close but no cigar rather often...a good reward this time.

To get one of these quickly now and expose the middle order stroke makers would be the perfect follow up for England...pressure very much on. A better over from Anderson then too.

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Post by alfie Sat 28 Aug 2021, 11:35 am

GSC wrote:Have to agree, looked stone dead to me at first glance

I actually thought he was going to give it. He appeared to be almost ready to put the finger up ...but just couldn't bring himself to commit Smile

I guess they tell themselves it will be reviewed anyway...

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Post by guildfordbat Sat 28 Aug 2021, 11:35 am

[quote="KP_fan"]Starting with a lead of 360 odd and still with a lead of 150 in hand..... and deliberately foregoing the opportunity to keep bowling 3 more overs even though with spin in fading light to squeeze  out an edge, a stumping or  false shot from one of two top batters....for saving just 10 to 12 odd runs only....Root has blinked first

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Maybe he did but it was Pujara who was trying to get to sleep last night 9 shy of a century. As so often in cricket, you can still debate the rights and wrongs of the captain's decision but Root will be happy enough now. No doubt about that.

And probably even more now ....

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Post by Duty281 Sat 28 Aug 2021, 11:38 am

That was Anderson at his world-class best in that over, Kohli had no answer.

How he didn't get a wicket was astonishing.

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Post by guildfordbat Sat 28 Aug 2021, 11:38 am

... but not.

I agree with Warne that Kohli reckoned he hit it from his reactions but DRS showed otherwise.

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Post by alfie Sat 28 Aug 2021, 11:40 am

Well blimey what an over from Anderson !

Weird that : Kohli instantly looked around as the ball went by , just as you do when you've hit it...but ends up reviewing and saving himself. Surely he knew he'd clipped his pad only ?

Anticlimax for Jimmy. Tense stuff.

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Post by AlciG Sat 28 Aug 2021, 11:44 am

So still no 2nd innings wicket for Anderson Smile How long has it been since his last one?

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Post by alfie Sat 28 Aug 2021, 11:48 am

Hi guildford.

You raise an interesting point about last night. Must admit I was , like KP_fan , somewhat bemused that Root didn't take that last couple of overs , with India surely not wanting to lose a late wicket and the odd ball doing something. But the idea of keeping Pujara in the nervous nineties...

Maybe. Not sure - he still needed nine after all . But anyway , you can say it worked Smile

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Post by alfie Sat 28 Aug 2021, 11:50 am

Kohli gone now though ! Robinson and Root combination and that's the big wicket...

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Post by Duty281 Sat 28 Aug 2021, 11:52 am

Kohli out. Yahoo

He never looked comfortable this morning. The Anderson/Robinson duo deserves that for their efforts in the first ten overs this morning. Very good bowling.

Two away from the tail and the innings win looms large again.

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Post by AlciG Sat 28 Aug 2021, 11:52 am

Should be all over now

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Post by alfie Sat 28 Aug 2021, 11:54 am

Robinson really has bowled beautifully this morning - as has Anderson since that first couple of overs. No surprise the two wickets have come.

Presume Pant will fight fire with fire so this could get spicy...

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Post by alfie Sat 28 Aug 2021, 11:56 am

Jimmy gets Rahane and the Fat Lady is warming up her vocal chords...

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Post by AlciG Sat 28 Aug 2021, 11:57 am

Finally Jimmy... well deserved


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Post by Duty281 Sat 28 Aug 2021, 11:58 am

And that's deserved for Anderson. Three in the first hour and England will be cruising home, albeit a day later than expected.

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Post by alfie Sat 28 Aug 2021, 11:58 am

That's the second innings wicket drought hoodoo done for Jimmy too...

Think we can call that England's hour Smile

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Post by Soul Requiem Sat 28 Aug 2021, 11:59 am

The Indians weren't good enough to nick off yesterday, they are today.

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Post by VTR Sat 28 Aug 2021, 12:01 pm

Can't ask for more than that, yesterday was frustrating, but as said by others they are getting the nicks today from the same standard of bowling

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Post by Duty281 Sat 28 Aug 2021, 12:05 pm

Wow, 400 test wickets in England for Anderson. clap

Broad in second on 341, Trueman 229, then Botham on 226. Highest non-Englishman on the list is, unsurprisingly, Shane Warne with 129.

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=1;orderby=wickets;template=results;type=bowling

Now Pant's gone. He looks in horrendous touch with the bat. I think this is Alfie's 'A' scenario!

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Post by alfie Sat 28 Aug 2021, 12:06 pm

Pant going a bit over the top charging Robinson , no ? Trying to put him off I guess but it seems a bit wild to go like that with only the rabbits to come.

Won't end well...

No it didn't Smile   Though that was more of a push.

I was wrong about a finish between lunch and tea. This will be over before lunch.

Call it "A+" ?


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Post by Soul Requiem Sat 28 Aug 2021, 12:07 pm

Pant with another embarrassing innings.

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Post by alfie Sat 28 Aug 2021, 12:14 pm

Five for Robinson ? Not ? Astonishing...is Hawkeye drunk ?

I thought the ball before was pretty good too so maybe my eyes are failing...

Won't be long though , I suspect.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 28 Aug 2021, 12:15 pm

Another odd ball-tracking decision in this test.

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Post by Soul Requiem Sat 28 Aug 2021, 12:18 pm

alfie wrote:Five for Robinson ? Not ? Astonishing...is Hawkeye drunk ?

I thought the ball before was pretty good too so maybe my eyes are failing...

Won't be long though , I suspect.

Something definitely wrong with the ball tracking, it's having every ball going more legside than I'm seeing it.

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Post by alfie Sat 28 Aug 2021, 12:19 pm

Moeen bowls Shami with an absolute peach clap

Good call by Root to go to the spinner although it seemed counterintuitive at first...

England must fancy an early lunch.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 28 Aug 2021, 12:21 pm

Unless Root sends seven men to the boundary rope for Bumrah's appearance, this will be done by lunch.

Good little morale boost for England knowing how susceptible India are to a collapse.

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Post by alfie Sat 28 Aug 2021, 12:26 pm

Robinson has his five now though clap clap

Truly outstanding bowling this morning , really well deserved .

He could end up with seven yet ...

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Post by eirebilly Sat 28 Aug 2021, 12:27 pm

Robinson has 23 wickets on 4 test matches. That is some start to his career...
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Post by Duty281 Sat 28 Aug 2021, 12:30 pm

Great achievement for Robinson. clap

Forced himself ahead of Overton and Curran in the pecking order.

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Post by Soul Requiem Sat 28 Aug 2021, 12:33 pm

You watch Robinson bowl and you wonder why Curran was ever ahead of him in the pecking order, bowled brilliantly every match so far.

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Post by eirebilly Sat 28 Aug 2021, 12:35 pm

Jadeja just having some fun now.
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Post by eirebilly Sat 28 Aug 2021, 12:41 pm

Jadeja's fun is over now.
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Post by alfie Sat 28 Aug 2021, 12:42 pm

Duty281 wrote:Great achievement for Robinson. clap

Forced himself ahead of Overton and Curran in the pecking order.

Certainly a great addition to the bowler squad. Looks the durable type too ; which is nice given the propensity of the speed fiends to break down fairly regularly.

Also don't think he should be pigeonholed as a "home" bowler : still to see ; but I think he might do a job in Australia.

Meanwhile , Overton gets his own back on Jade for those boundaries...nine down and England can have booze with lunch guinness Bubbly

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Post by eirebilly Sat 28 Aug 2021, 12:44 pm

Test over. What a performance from England clap
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Post by alfie Sat 28 Aug 2021, 12:45 pm

And there it is...another nice catch by YJB at slip and Overton finishes the job...

Innings and 76. Bit of a hiccup yesterday ; but a pretty dominant performance ; and a great response to the Lord's shock thumbsup

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Post by Duty281 Sat 28 Aug 2021, 12:48 pm

Easy as you like, 8 wickets in just under 1 hour and 45 minutes, Overton applying the finishing touch. clap

England, despite numerous absent players, have controlled this series and are all set to push on to secure the series win in tests four and five.

There's a big gulf between these two teams in England, this was the first test of the series that properly underlined it.

Well done England. clap

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Post by eirebilly Sat 28 Aug 2021, 12:48 pm

Its actually a disappointing end to this match by India. Granted they lost the match pretty much on the first day but i thought that they showed great fighting yesterday, so much so that i thought that they may even get a big enough score to force England to bat again.

Today appeared to me as if they just gave up. Not a great sign for them with two tests remaining.
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Post by Soul Requiem Sat 28 Aug 2021, 12:55 pm

Match went largely as expected. Once England get on a roll this Indian batting line up will collapse time and time again. Pleased to see Pujara make runs as means he's in for the series now.

I don't want to come across as too critical but the survival yesterday was down to a large chunk of luck, on a different day they could have been 150-6. Rohit in particular could and probably should have been out much sooner.

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Post by alfie Sat 28 Aug 2021, 1:07 pm

Not sure it is fair to say India gave up. Was quite outstanding bowling from Robinson and Anderson with the new ball today...

Pujara a misjudgment before he got settled in. Kohli worked over by Jimmy and then done like a kipper by Robinson. Rahane also a typical Anderson victim.

OK then you might say Pant was a bit rattled as soon as he came in - no real shock he got out ; and the tail just isn't very good...

England will be rightly delighted by this result. But I think it would be a mistake to assume this means India will be there for the taking in the remaining matches. They have weaknesses : long tail , and difficulty in fixing that without messing up their bowling plans. And they rely a lot on a good start from their openers. But so do England : one big innings doesn't prove the batting is rock solid ; and bowler fatigue might leave some decisions for this week.

I am looking forward to more good cricket , without trying to guess what will actually happen .But will celebrate along with the team tonight Bubbly

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Post by KP_fan Sat 28 Aug 2021, 1:17 pm

In the end the end came quite fast....last 8 bundled for 50 odd......
I think when the new ball broke the back of middle order with big 3 remaining just did not buckle down,

Indian's were circumspect...not sure whether to play or leave....pressure of runs and realization of being in a situation where they could get to safety got to them.....most manifested in Puajars shouldering arms.

Eng used the new ball well ...in these conditions new ball does things for 30 overs or so
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Next game......shardul or Ashwin comes in for Ishant.....nothing more can be done, unless Kohli decides to drop himself
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Post by sirfredperry Sat 28 Aug 2021, 1:19 pm

Well I guess anyone checking the lunchtime score would be amazed to find it's all over.

This was the sort of score many would have expected when India batted again - but not after reaching 215-2.

Australia had 100 for the first wicket in the second innings at Nottingham in 2015 after being bowled out for 60 and they also had a good start at Melbourne in the second innings after their first-innings collapse in 2010. But they still succumbed rather tamely in the end

Now comes the worrying bit for England. They rarely lose two home Tests in a row, so this was the one they were going to win after Lord's. But they also have a tendency to throw in a horror show in the next Test after a good win.

Conversely, I think I'm right in saying that India have only once won more than a single Test in a series in England. Also, England's batting now looks immeasurably stronger than at the start of the series.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 28 Aug 2021, 1:30 pm

KP_fan wrote: Moeen produced the biggest Off break ever seen from an English spinner in Eng in the History of Game

Nah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaGWOvWMDDc

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Post by JDizzle Sat 28 Aug 2021, 2:15 pm

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KP_fan wrote: Moeen produced the biggest Off break ever seen from an English spinner in Eng in the History of Game

Nah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaGWOvWMDDc

I was convinced this was going to be Vaughan to Tendulkar in 2002!

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Post by sirfredperry Sat 28 Aug 2021, 3:12 pm

Root's 27th Test win is an England record. It's one that he could well hold for a good while.

He's only 30 and at present there doesn't seem to be anyone likely to take over the captaincy.

Of course, if a possible successor were to emerge Root might want to emulate some of his predecessors and play on just as a batsman.

It's been remarked that being captain of the England cricket team is about as stressful as it gets in sport. Pakistan fans and players might argue that being Pakistan cricket captain ain't a bundle of laughs, either.

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Post by GSC Sat 28 Aug 2021, 4:36 pm

Was joking last night with someone who had tickets today that theyd probably get a good day in. Alas...

Robinson really establishing himself as a quality bowler. With Jimmy/Broad unlikely to play every test when healthy, and Jofra/Woakes trying to work back to fitness it's a great time for him to step up.
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Post by guildfordbat Sat 28 Aug 2021, 5:00 pm

GSC wrote:Was joking last night with someone who had tickets today that theyd probably get a good day in. Alas...

Robinson really establishing himself as a quality bowler. With Jimmy/Broad unlikely to play every test when healthy, and Jofra/Woakes trying to work back to fitness it's a great time for him to step up.

At this point I'm not putting him up there with Robinson let alone Jimmy/Broad but Overton also had a more than useful Test and has kept himself in the frame.

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Post by GSC Sat 28 Aug 2021, 5:16 pm

If only we could trade some seamer for batsmen
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Post by JDizzle Sat 28 Aug 2021, 6:58 pm

Of all the days I could pick to go to the cricket, I chose the third day! Although I suppose better that the today's curtailed play, even if it was more dramatic.

Most of what I saw seems to have covered fairly well - Overton and Robinson comfortably England's best bowlers. Robinson bowled a touch too short and wide with the new ball, but settled into it well after that. Overton was also very good and they both bowled with excellent control which meant though India resisted well England still had plenty of runs to play with when the second new ball was due.

I thought it was astute captaincy from Root to get to the new ball with him and Ali and then say I will give my bowlers a rest overnight before deploying them with it.

I don't see how Curran can play in the next Test unfortunately. You could tell India were waiting for him to be introduced. I think you have to pick Woakes for him, and then if Jimmy needs a rest you go from there and pick Mahmood.

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