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Post by pedro Mon 01 Oct 2018, 9:54 pm

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RCB was only mentioned as a potential pick in lack of alternatives.

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Post by Be_the_ball Fri 26 Jul 2019, 3:03 pm

pedro wrote:Surely JP is ponying up a few quid to cater his own ego and oil the ET execs. Not entirely unheard of in the world of oligarch and sheikhs.

And Shannon not remote? Yes there might be a few summer flights to the US, but hardly any to Europe. It’s a big middle finger to non-Irish golf fans.

PS: This is not The Open.

You need to get out of Peckham more often Pedro OK
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Post by super_realist Fri 26 Jul 2019, 5:26 pm

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pedro wrote:The selection of Adare Manor is a bit dodgy. No doubt it’s a lovely place but you can’t help think the ET are now going the UEFA/FIFA way of selecting oligarch sponsored remote locations. I’m sure they could have found more accessible places elsewhere.

Oligarch? Remote?

Adare manor is close to Shannon airport. Very easy to fly to. Lots of planes coming from the US to Shannon all year round and then a 2 hour drive to Adare.

JP McManus is a wealthy man but not exactly an oligarch athough Lionel Richie and Billy Joel did perform at his daughters wedding.

Access was one of the big arguements against Portrush 10 years ago. Turned out to be a bit of a red herring albeit in this case I think they will need to get the planned bypass completed.

Christ, what did his daughter do to deserve Lionel Richie and Billy Joel. He must not like her at all. That's music that a 60 year old would listen to, not someone the age of McManus' daughter.

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Post by Collapse2005 Fri 26 Jul 2019, 5:36 pm

I love Lionel Richie. Great music to make some moves to.

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Post by Be_the_ball Sat 27 Jul 2019, 3:48 pm

Banter aside Pedro, it does look like a pretty special course and facilities.

https://youtu.be/Mli1WKUXNm0

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Post by incontinentia Wed 25 Aug 2021, 11:48 pm

Latest from Harrington.. Looks like Sergio and Poulter will get Captain's picks. Lowry will probably get one too if he falls out of automatic qualification.

https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1242852/
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 26 Aug 2021, 9:12 am

Think the only real decision Harrington has, is if Lowry makes it automatically (which looks likely, bar Perez doing something like winning at Wentworth), then does he take Rose or a debutant like Bob MacIntyre?
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Post by super_realist Thu 26 Aug 2021, 10:07 am

Europe are going to get spanked im afraid.

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Post by incontinentia Thu 26 Aug 2021, 11:09 am

super_realist wrote:Europe are going to get spanked im afraid.
It certainly will be a difficult atmosphere with only american fans present.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 26 Aug 2021, 11:13 am

super_realist wrote:Europe are going to get spanked im afraid.

I have a similar viewpoint Super. Really the only way I see the Americans not winning is if they have inter-team issues with clashes, as they have had at Ryder Cups in the past. Even if they do, it'll still be tough. They just have the better golfers at present!
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Post by super_realist Thu 26 Aug 2021, 11:44 am

Europe win two minimum for every one the Septics win so theure due one.

They will benefit from not having the albatross of Botox Woods around their neck. He always gifted 3 points to Europe.

Only hope for Europe is that Matchplay is a different mindset.
Just cant see who'll be this years Molinari/Fleetwood.


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Post by McLaren Thu 26 Aug 2021, 12:49 pm

What is a little strange this time around is that Europe look quite strong on paper compared to other years but the US team just look like one of the deepest teams ever. However, and I am not sure without the genius of Super_realist I would have picked up on this, but as we now know we should still never write off the Europeans whatever the gulf on class on paper looks like.

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Post by super_realist Thu 26 Aug 2021, 1:17 pm

McLaren wrote:What is a little strange this time around is that Europe look quite strong on paper compared to other years but the US team just look like one of the deepest teams ever. However, and I am not sure without the genius of Super_realist I would have picked up on this, but as we now know we should still never write off the Europeans whatever the gulf on class on paper looks like.


Strong on paper? Lowry? Fitzpatrick, Hatton? I see them as the weak points.

Hovland and Rahm could be good though.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 26 Aug 2021, 1:40 pm

super_realist wrote:Europe win two minimum for every one the Septics win so theure due one.

They will benefit from not having the albatross of Botox Woods around their neck. He always gifted 3 points to Europe.

Only hope for Europe is that Matchplay is a different mindset.
Just cant see who'll be this years Molinari/Fleetwood.

There is still a chance the US mucks things up - six captains picks gives a lot of wiggle room for strange selections (part of me thinks they'll still pick Mickelson).

But as we've said the US depth is better, and while I know it is only a one week event so there is a certain randomness to it...but frankly a lot of the Euros aren't playing well at the moment. Hatton/Fleetwood in particular in the US have been poor, Westwood has gone off the boil from his good form in early 2021, you note Fitzpatrick too (the course is a horrible one for him).
Only really Rahm is playing at his best at the moment, Casey has been solid all year too.
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Post by incontinentia Wed 08 Sep 2021, 1:24 pm

Shane is in the hot seat, there’s a number of players who can push their way into the team and a lot of points to play for this week. It’s going to be an interesting week, anybody who plays well this week has really earned it- It’s not just they are going out to trying to win a golf tournament, but they are also trying to win a golf tournament knowing what it means in the bigger picture. That’s what you need when it comes to the Ryder Cup, you have to be able to handle the stress and pressure of what’s going on.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 08 Sep 2021, 3:10 pm

Annoyingly sensible and correct captains picks by Stricker
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Post by incontinentia Sat 11 Sep 2021, 8:56 am

Patrick Reed is being reported as liking several tweets that criticise Stricker for leaving him out of the team.
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Post by beninho Sat 11 Sep 2021, 11:37 am

Poulter getting a pick? Can't see how he can.

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Post by incontinentia Sat 11 Sep 2021, 1:54 pm

beninho wrote:Poulter getting a pick? Can't see how he can.
Past glories. He played decent enough in a few comps this year though didn't he?
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Post by beninho Sat 11 Sep 2021, 2:10 pm

His recent events have been OK, nothing g really outstanding.

http://www.owgr.com/Ranking/PlayerProfile.aspx?playerID=1435

On a course, which will be long and set up for bombing. Will the 185th ranked driving distance cone in helpful. I get he is a RC legend but him and Westwood on the team with Sergio is a worrying sign for European strength in depth. I'd love Guido in!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 11 Sep 2021, 6:12 pm

Poulter has done alright on the PGA Tour recently hasn't he? I do agree, he does seem a poor course fit.

But then you could say there is a fair few of the qualified guys who look out of form/poor fits too - Westwood/Hatton/Fleetwood, have they done anything of real note for a few months now?

Ultimately if Europe are going to win they're going to need the likes of Rahm/Rory/Hovland to do the heavy lifting, someone to do a Leona Maguire
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Post by GPB Sun 12 Sep 2021, 7:54 pm

Westwood and Weisberger complete the 9 automatic qualifiers and Paddy picks

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IMO, Poulter's aura is gone and Whistling Straits is a big boy ball park. I think Rose would have been a better pick than the Postman,

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Post by beninho Sun 12 Sep 2021, 8:04 pm

Rose or Poulter. Much of a muchness.

You'd say USA are favourites, but they always are! And they were in the Solheim Cup adwell.

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Post by GPB Sun 12 Sep 2021, 8:06 pm

FWIW, the USA was not pre-event favorites in 2006 and 2008

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Post by pedro Sun 12 Sep 2021, 10:17 pm

Ironic that Horschel won this week, one week too late again it seems, to warrant a pick.

Any updates on Koepkas injury?

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Post by pedro Sun 12 Sep 2021, 10:24 pm

Can’t see how we can win this time around. Will be a bombers course, no/few Euro fans and Paddy doesn’t come across as a leader who can motivate the guys. I’m afraid it will be a spanking like in 2016.

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Post by GPB Sun 12 Sep 2021, 10:30 pm

pedro wrote:Can’t see how we can win this time around. Will be a bombers course, no/few Euro fans and Paddy doesn’t come across as a leader who can motivate the guys. I’m afraid it will be a spanking like in 2016.

If the Euros lose, it will because Paddy picked Lowry and not MacIntyre or Perez.

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Post by super_realist Mon 13 Sep 2021, 8:18 am

GPB wrote:
pedro wrote:Can’t see how we can win this time around. Will be a bombers course, no/few Euro fans and Paddy doesn’t come across as a leader who can motivate the guys. I’m afraid it will be a spanking like in 2016.

If the Euros lose, it will because Paddy picked Lowry and not MacIntyre or Perez.

Europe are going to lose anyway, but the pick of a fat waster like Lowry isnt going to help. Tatty munching nepotism.

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Post by super_realist Mon 13 Sep 2021, 8:20 am

beninho wrote:His recent events have been OK, nothing g really outstanding.

http://www.owgr.com/Ranking/PlayerProfile.aspx?playerID=1435

On a course, which will be long and set up for bombing. Will the 185th ranked driving distance cone in helpful. I get he is a RC legend but him and Westwood on the team with Sergio is a worrying sign for European strength in depth. I'd love Guido in!

Plenty of the septics been quiet of late too. Rev Gordon, Rizla Johnson, Koepka and John Thomas havent exactly been ripping it up.

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Post by McLaren Mon 13 Sep 2021, 10:16 am

super_realist wrote:
GPB wrote:
pedro wrote:Can’t see how we can win this time around. Will be a bombers course, no/few Euro fans and Paddy doesn’t come across as a leader who can motivate the guys. I’m afraid it will be a spanking like in 2016.

If the Euros lose, it will because Paddy picked Lowry and not MacIntyre or Perez.

Europe are going to lose anyway, but the pick of a fat waster like Lowry isnt going to help. Tatty munching nepotism.


Maybe wouldn't call him a tatty muncher but I agree with the sentiment of this post. Other than them both being Irish there was no good reason to pick Fat Shane. He spends the majority of most seasons in the wilderness. The chances of him being on form on any given week are pretty slim.
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Post by Shotrock Mon 13 Sep 2021, 12:13 pm

Hovland, McIlroy and Rahm certainly have the talent to run the table at this exhibition event. Then, if they get some good performances down the roster, there's no reason they don't win.

The Yanks need to keep infighting to a minimum and then play to their world rankings (which I guess don't mean much in a an event like this.)

Not sure WS favors the US team.


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Post by beninho Mon 13 Sep 2021, 12:14 pm

If you base the FedEx cup standings as an overall sign of consistency Lowry was better then most who made the team. He is hands down the best choice over Rose or anyone else. More was higher up the standings. Also looks like 16 cuts in a row and been pretty consistent.

I dont think Poulter is a fit, but he is a better pick then Rose.

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Post by super_realist Mon 13 Sep 2021, 1:23 pm

beninho wrote:If you base the FedEx cup standings as an overall sign of consistency Lowry was better then most who made the team.  He is hands down the best choice over Rose or anyone else. More was higher up the standings. Also looks like 16 cuts in a row and been pretty consistent.

I dont think Poulter is a fit, but he is a better pick then Rose.

Thats precisely the thinking as to why America lose so frequently. Square pegs.

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Post by GPB Mon 13 Sep 2021, 1:41 pm

And it starts. The dire predictions for the Euro Ryder Cup team.

If the Euros lose, I predicted it!

If the Euros win, See, the US Team Sucks.

Heads I win, Tails you Lose.

(with a plethora of sophomoric and puerile name calling)

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Post by beninho Mon 13 Sep 2021, 3:41 pm

But if you put the teams together, surely most people would say Anerica is stronger? And therefore should win.

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Post by super_realist Mon 13 Sep 2021, 3:53 pm

beninho wrote:But if you put the teams together, surely most people would say Anerica is stronger? And therefore should win.

That is always the case, but this is a team matchplay event and so form, rankings , majors etc counts for little.

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Post by super_realist Mon 13 Sep 2021, 3:54 pm

GPB wrote:And it starts.  The dire predictions for the Euro Ryder Cup team.  

If the Euros lose, I predicted it!

If the Euros win, See, the US Team Sucks.

Heads I win, Tails you Lose.

(with a plethora of sophomoric and puerile name calling)

Ive been saying that Europe would lose for about 2 years.

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Post by beninho Mon 13 Sep 2021, 4:32 pm

super_realist wrote:
beninho wrote:But if you put the teams together, surely most people would say Anerica is stronger? And therefore should win.

That is always the case, but this is a team matchplay event and so form, rankings , majors etc counts for little.

Yep, but it's still the only way to think who is favourite, by comparing players.

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Post by super_realist Mon 13 Sep 2021, 4:49 pm

beninho wrote:
super_realist wrote:
beninho wrote:But if you put the teams together, surely most people would say Anerica is stronger? And therefore should win.

That is always the case, but this is a team matchplay event and so form, rankings , majors etc counts for little.

Yep, but it's still the only way to think who is favourite, by comparing players.  

And it routinely fails as a method, but i cant see that being the case this time. Europe have got a bit long in the tooth and the course is set up to benefit one dimensional American golf.

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Post by GPB Mon 13 Sep 2021, 5:38 pm

super_realist wrote:
GPB wrote:And it starts.  The dire predictions for the Euro Ryder Cup team.  

If the Euros lose, I predicted it!

If the Euros win, See, the US Team Sucks.

Heads I win, Tails you Lose.

(with a plethora of sophomoric and puerile name calling)

Ive been saying that Europe would lose for about 2 years.

My Point, Exactly!

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Post by JAS Tue 14 Sep 2021, 10:39 am

super_realist wrote:
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pedro wrote:Can’t see how we can win this time around. Will be a bombers course, no/few Euro fans and Paddy doesn’t come across as a leader who can motivate the guys. I’m afraid it will be a spanking like in 2016.

If the Euros lose, it will because Paddy picked Lowry and not MacIntyre or Perez.

Europe are going to lose anyway, but the pick of a fat waster like Lowry isnt going to help. Tatty munching nepotism.

It’s hardly that is it? Lowry only dropped out of an automatic place on the last day. I presume you’d have put Rose in Lowry’s place? Tight call for sure but I think Paddy was fairly objective, I mean he gave his “good mate” Sergio a pick :-p

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Post by dynamark Tue 14 Sep 2021, 9:00 pm

Matchplay is a different game to yer regular golf .Love it

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Post by incontinentia Wed 15 Sep 2021, 8:05 am

super_realist wrote:
GPB wrote:
pedro wrote:Can’t see how we can win this time around. Will be a bombers course, no/few Euro fans and Paddy doesn’t come across as a leader who can motivate the guys. I’m afraid it will be a spanking like in 2016.

If the Euros lose, it will because Paddy picked Lowry and not MacIntyre or Perez.

Europe are going to lose anyway, but the pick of a fat waster like Lowry isnt going to help. Tatty munching nepotism.
Paddy based his picks on many factors including data from his stats guy. The data show that Lowry deserves his pick. MacIntyre's background in shinty, plus his victories in the Sahara Kuwait championship and the Aphrodite Hills Cyprus showdown would have helped his case for a captain's pick, but Lowry's record just pipped him slightly. Good shout though, hopefully Bob will make the next Ryder Cup Smile
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Post by incontinentia Yesterday at 1:44 pm

No Laying Up podcast has a pretty tremendous episode this week of behind the scenes stories from past players, captains and caddies.
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Post by McLaren Yesterday at 2:07 pm

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I downloaded it earlier. Looking forward to it. NLU are my go to way to consume golf these days.
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Post by McLaren Yesterday at 3:25 pm

So should Koepka give his place up to a more deserving participant?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/58569270
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Post by pedro Yesterday at 9:20 pm

What a whiner

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Post by incontinentia Yesterday at 9:22 pm

McLaren wrote:So should Koepka give his place up to a more deserving participant?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/58569270
Maybe, but its not gonna happen. I'd say most of the players hate playing the RC but grin and bear it, we've heard comments like this before.
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Post by incontinentia Yesterday at 9:24 pm

pedro wrote:What a whiner
You dont enjoy his honesty?
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Post by super_realist Today at 7:51 am

incontinentia wrote:
McLaren wrote:So should Koepka give his place up to a more deserving participant?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/58569270
Maybe, but its not gonna happen. I'd say most of the players hate playing the RC but grin and bear it, we've heard comments like this before.

Most "Americans" perhaps. Europeans clearly love it. Funny how the Yanks seem to love the tinpot Presidents Cup though. What a difference winning makes

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Post by McLaren Today at 10:29 am

Super

The yanks have better things to worry about. Like winning majors.
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