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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Wed 22 Dec 2021, 3:47 pm

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JDizzle wrote:James Bracey? Admittedly looked painfully bad vs NZ in the summer, but if we are wanting to give guys a chance then he shouldn’t be forgotten about so quickly. Especially as he was batting out of position. Better FC record than Hameed and made a half century for the Lions in Aus in 2020 and a ton this time. But he was flown home because English scoring runs just isn’t on!


Fair. Had forgotten about him actually and he was thrown a suicide pass in the summer against the best test team in the world. He probably does deserve another shot in the near future.

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 12:57 am

Wood just two overs ? Hope he's OK. I get the notion of keeping him fresh and alternating with Stokes but still...

And why oh why just two slips !!! Got to get Smith early.

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Post by guildfordbat Mon 27 Dec 2021, 12:57 am

Alfie - totally with you on Illy, both as a skipper and manager. thumbsup

It's a shame (as far as I'm aware) that no colour film of the 70-71 Ashes series exists. His finest and incredibly impressive series which merits greater recognition.

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Post by JDizzle Mon 27 Dec 2021, 12:58 am

1% chance for Buttler that I think. Inside edges always the toughest! Now Smith edges Stokes through the slips.

Could they have had an extra slip? The comms make a good point that we probably wouldn’t notice Smith easily knocking singles through mid wicket if they did!

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Post by guildfordbat Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:04 am

JDizzle wrote:According to Dobell it is 4 positive Tests - 2 support staff and 2 family. Would be surprised if that is it given it was Xmas two days ago!

Dobell is surprised the Test is going on. I share his surprise given how Cummins had to be kept away from the last Test for being a close contact of someone who tested positive. If these 4 aren't close contacts of some England players, what are they doing on the tour?

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Post by JDizzle Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:12 am

I’m not surprised the Test is still going ahead from the boards point of view, as money always talks. And guessing pulling one player out pre game is easier that multiple mid game? I am surprised the Aussies government is allowing it to though - without knowing the ins and outs of how strict the Victorian rules have been.

Harris now saved by a feather from Stokes on an LBW. Not what you need defending 185.

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Post by JDizzle Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:14 am

‘Hotspots f***ing hopeless’ excellent from Harris!

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Post by JDizzle Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:19 am

Wood must be injured, surely? Stokes also not hitting the crease aggressively as normal. This is when it all went wrong at the Gabba - Robinson was off the pitch and Leach got carted, will history repeat itself?

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:23 am

JDizzle wrote:1% chance for Buttler that I think. Inside edges always the toughest! Now Smith edges Stokes through the slips.

Could they have had an extra slip? The comms make a good point that we probably wouldn’t notice Smith easily knocking singles through mid wicket if they did!

Well they absolutely should have had a third slip ! Not the first time in this series that Smith - or Marnus - has got away with an edge through that area. Root has juggled his bowlers quite well this morning but I think you just have to attack the likes of Smith early and trust your bowlers : a couple of boundaries won't matter if you can get the Big Fish.

Some seriously good bowling at present from Anderson , not yet rewarded. But the bats are under a lot of pressure right now. How long can England keep it up ?

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Post by JDizzle Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:24 am

How is Marcus Harris still batting. Anderson has been all over him!

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Post by JDizzle Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:30 am

Absolutely deserved for Jimmy. And it’s the big one! Two lefties in - not ideal to introduce Leach. Just keep Jimmy on till he can’t bowl, he’s been bowling lovely to Harris.

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:30 am

Yahoo Smith gone...Anderson gets the one he really wanted...

Big inside edge on to stumps. Just reward for some terrific bowling from the Old Boy thumbsup

Still wondering what is wrong with Wood : but this game is back in the melting pot now , surely ?

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Post by guildfordbat Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:32 am

alfie wrote: Yahoo Smith gone...Anderson gets the one he really wanted...

Big inside edge on to stumps. Just reward for some terrific bowling from the Old Boy thumbsup

Still wondering what is wrong with Wood : but this game is back in the melting pot now , surely ?

It should be but we've thought that too often lately ....

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Post by guildfordbat Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:33 am

JDizzle wrote:I’m not surprised the Test is still going ahead from the boards point of view, as money always talks. And guessing pulling one player out pre game is easier that multiple mid game? I am surprised the Aussies government is allowing it to though - without knowing the ins and outs of how strict the Victorian rules have been.

Harris now saved by a feather from Stokes on an LBW. Not what you need defending 185.

Alfie - any thoughts on that?

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Post by JDizzle Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:33 am

This is an absolutely gorgeous spell from Jimmy. Hope Raf is watching! Very Happy

Agree Alfie - game on. The only question is how long can England go on without introducing Leach and only two front line seamers.

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Post by JDizzle Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:35 am

And Wood is back. If he is carrying a niggle, it isn’t showing in his pace.

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:36 am

JDizzle wrote:Absolutely deserved for Jimmy. And it’s the big one! Two lefties in - not ideal to introduce Leach. Just keep Jimmy on till he can’t bowl, he’s been bowling lovely to Harris.

Yes all these lefties is why I'd rather have tried Bess than Leach. But who knows ? Think Jack might be more use in the second innings anyway but that's a long way off...think the pace bowlers will be going for a while yet.

(One possible idea if they do need to introduce some spin could be for Root to have a go at the lefties ?)

Here's Wood again. Vital half hour to lunch.

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Post by JDizzle Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:38 am

I wouldn’t be adverse to seeing a couple of overs of Joe before lunch. He did get Head out at Adelaide. Although maybe the carrot dangle of Leach just before lunch might put Head in two minds?

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:40 am

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JDizzle wrote:I’m not surprised the Test is still going ahead from the boards point of view, as money always talks. And guessing pulling one player out pre game is easier that multiple mid game? I am surprised the Aussies government is allowing it to though - without knowing the ins and outs of how strict the Victorian rules have been.

Harris now saved by a feather from Stokes on an LBW. Not what you need defending 185.

Alfie - any thoughts on that?

I try not to think about Covid , to be honest ! Vic government has been pretty strict in a lot of ways ; but they have tended to blur the lines a bit around major sporting events...

We might hear more later.

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Post by guildfordbat Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:42 am

JDizzle wrote:I wouldn’t be adverse to seeing a couple of overs of Joe before lunch. He did get Head out at Adelaide. Although maybe the carrot dangle of Leach just before lunch might put Head in two minds?

You mean whether to hit him for 4 or 6? Wink

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Post by guildfordbat Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:45 am

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JDizzle wrote:I’m not surprised the Test is still going ahead from the boards point of view, as money always talks. And guessing pulling one player out pre game is easier that multiple mid game? I am surprised the Aussies government is allowing it to though - without knowing the ins and outs of how strict the Victorian rules have been.

Harris now saved by a feather from Stokes on an LBW. Not what you need defending 185.

Alfie - any thoughts on that?

I try not to think about Covid , to be honest  !  Vic government has been pretty strict in a lot of ways ; but they have tended to blur the lines a bit around major sporting events...

We might hear more later.

Very fair and understandable response, Alfie. Thanks anyway. ''Blurring the lines around sporting events'' was my impression. Same here but with Government meetings.

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:46 am

This has been an excellent spell from Anderson but he can't bowl right through to lunch surely ? Will Robinson have a couple or do they roll the dice with a spinner ?
Maybe Stokes will switch ends now Wood is back into his work. One more wicket before lunch would really dial up the pressure...

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Post by guildfordbat Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:49 am

alfie wrote:This has been an excellent spell from Anderson but he can't bowl right through to lunch surely ? Will Robinson have a couple or do they roll the dice with a spinner ?
Maybe Stokes will switch ends now Wood is back into his work. One more wicket before lunch would really dial up the pressure...

I would stick with the pace and seam attack which has served us so well this morning. And here's Robinson ...

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:49 am

Robinson it is. Hope it is "lively Ollie Robinson" and not " weary cart horse medium pacer".

Initial couple of balls not encouraging...

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Post by JDizzle Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:52 am

Robinson definitely needs a few months on a conditioning programme. It shouldn’t take a test bowler an over to loosen up. Missed run out?

And here is Leach… let’s see if Head fancies the 4 or 6!

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:54 am

Near miss on a run out but otherwise Robinson's over just fuelled my belief that Broad should have been preferred here.

Now it's Leach , after just a couple of Wood overs . Hope I'm wrong but I fear England are once again refusing to go for the throat while the batsmen are going through a tough patch...

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:58 am

Well this is better : Robinson hooked straight away and Wood back for one before lunch...

Shows some intent anyway. Going to need more after lunch.

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Post by JDizzle Mon 27 Dec 2021, 1:59 am

Okay, that is ruthless from Root. Better. Rubbish from Robinson, just an over from Leach to change Wood’s end?

How Harris has survived this session I do not know…

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Post by guildfordbat Mon 27 Dec 2021, 2:01 am

England's session with 3/70 although Duty's man Harris wins his own personal battle. Not particularly pretty or always looking in command but he's still there on 48.

Australia still in the better seats but not sitting quite as comfortably as last night.

That's my lot. Until tomorrow, folks. thumbsup


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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 2:02 am

Lunch at 131/4. Good session for England and with an ounce of luck could have been even better. Wood and Anderson both excellent.

But Australia only trail by fifty so there is much to do afterwards to turn this brief spell of success into a sustained comeback. Been good to watch at least !

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Post by kingraf Mon 27 Dec 2021, 2:06 am

Must be said, Jimmy has been in his bag today. I don't know if it's just a case of this pitch being more to his preference, but even ignoring the wickets, he's just looked more threatening. Wood is Wood, and he can go for runs, but he's got that ability to make batters do things at 145kph that you can't otherwise create. Leaves Robinson, who I think was probably a mistake. I'd have thought Broad was more suited to this deck, and if Robinson HAD to play, it would be Anderson who was dropped (which obvs would have been a mistake in hindsight). All that said, I've just not been impressed with Robinson. He's medium pace, doesn't really get much in the air in Australia, and even less off the pitch. Also, as been noted. His fitness levels are a little poor for an international athlete.
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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 2:42 am

Soon to resume. For all England's good morning , it will all go for nought if they can't make further inroads this afternoon.

They've had a couple of these fightbacks with the ball in this series which have faltered as the change bowlers failed to maintain the pressure. With an older ball it is essential that Wood and Anderson get proper back up now ...

But Leach starts with a long hop which goes for four picard

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 2:48 am

Fifty for Harris ! Deserved it : a battling knock but he's hung in despite being beaten numerous times ; no frills - but doing a job for his team in the way we might hope the likes of Hameed could emulate...

This spell from Wood is pretty key I think. He has to strike as I'm not sure I'm expecting much from Leach today.

Good start for Australia with 16 from two overs since the break ...

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 3:03 am

Head seems to be settled in - ominous sign for England. Has 21 already.

Still the little things just don't fall England's way as Stokes executes a great pick up and off balance throw that misses by literally a couple of inches...would have been out.

Some spin for Leach but he's not really looking too threatening. Wood keeps beating Harris outside off but still can't get that edge...

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 3:07 am

Border summing it up : Leach bowling with a basically defensive field , no bat pad - although he does have a leg slip. "Milk the cow time". Smile

Robinson back . Hopefully livelier than this morning...

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 3:10 am

Just hearing that is nineteen play and misses from Harris in this innings !

Has he taken Marnus's good luck charm ?

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 3:20 am

Pleased to see a bat pad in now...

And another chance goes begging as Leach gets one to turn and Buttler cannot gather it at all , with the batsman yards out of his crease !

Was not an easy one ; bounced as well as turning ; but it's adding to the pressure on Buttler with the gloves. He's taken a couple of blinders but the number of chances missed is getting out of hand. It has to be preying on his mind.

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 3:31 am

Robinson bit better in this spell . Gone past the edge once or twice but the menace Anderson was offering before lunch isn't there with this older ball.
Leach isn't getting smashed ; but apart from that one chance he's not looked like taking a wicket. Almost hoping for a batsman to have a rush of blood...

Afraid I can't see where a wicket comes from now. Although even as I type Head flashes at Robinson and nearly gets an edge.

And now he does edge ! And caught and gone !  Root safe hands and fortunately it isn't a no ball...

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 3:36 am

So Green fresh at the crease and Harris still riding his luck on the way to his inevitable century (Duty will be pleased !) so what will Root do ?

Still Leach and not enough close fielders for mine...if he's not trusted to attack a new batsman what's he in the side for ? I'd go to Stokes or Wood.

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 3:43 am

Quite seriously, if Leach is to be given first go at Green in this situation he must be attacking with fielders round the bat. Otherwise you're just hoping for the batsman to donate his wicket.

Drink break must bring a rethink surely. One more wicket , quickly , would keep this bubbling away nicely : another partnership now would just about bury them.

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 3:46 am

It will still be Leach. What is Root's mindset here ? Harris is just collecting singles at his ease.

Prove me wrong , please , Jack !

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 3:57 am

Anderson's turn again now. That was a good spell from Robinson just done clap

Green pretty watchful so far. But Harris is on to 76...and still looks just so comfortable against Leach.

I get Root wants to rotate his pace bowlers. And I guess he wants to show faith in his spinner. But honestly he or Malan would be as likely to strike...

Jimmy does it again though ! Harris at last undone via an edge and the safe hands of Joe Root clap

A good innings from him. Had luck , but used it to get a vital score in this low scoring (so far) match.

Anderson now 3/23 from 16 overs. Not quite ready for the pension...

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 4:02 am

OK . Wood back on now. Green on 2 from 26 balls and Carey new to the crease. This is the moment surely. Next twenty minutes. Vital.


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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 4:14 am

Oh ! Wood gets one to leap at Green : but unlike the one that looped from Bairstow's gloves to Green yesterday , this one drops just short of gully . Was the fieldsman a fraction too deep ? Hard to be sure with Wood hitting around 150k...

Anderson's last nine overs have yielded 2 wickets for three. This is a tense period.

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 4:22 am

Still keeping Wood to two over spells. Stokes back now and an edge - along the ground this time - goes for two to give Australia the lead.

Stokes looks a bit revved up : this could produce wildfire - or wild rubbish. Carey not off the mark yet. Green 8 from 44 . 186/6 ...still another 13 overs to a new ball.

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 4:27 am

Wood not off - just changing ends .

And another run out chance ! Hameed keeps just missing the stumps- had his man again had that one been on target. Was close too.

Wood has been better than 1/54 off 15. But it's what's in the book that counts...

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 4:38 am

Ten minutes to tea. England probably need another scalp here : for all their good work Australia have their noses in front and still four wickets in hand.

Stokes unhappy with some slightly too casual outfielding allowing a second run...he's ticking. Throwing plenty in to it but perhaps a bit too leg side to Carey ? Do they have some theory about this line to the Aussie keeper ?

They've bowled well to Green. Been a bit unfortunate a couple of times with balls taking the glove but not carrying.

Leach on for the last over of the session. Now if this was England batting they'd be sure to throw a wicket away Smile

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 4:41 am

Tea. 200/6.

Has been England's day really , overall. But when you're only defending 185 they still need a lot more after this pause in the action.

Those waking up later have missed some good cricket : hope there will be more coming.

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 5:05 am

So : resuming , nine overs to the new ball. England can't - shouldn't - just "wait" for it. Aussies might want to try and crash a few runs before it comes so it's a bit of a balancing act.

Robinson starting off , with the support of two slips. But again he's starting a spell at about 120km. And gets driven for four. At least he's on a full length so is targeting the stumps ; but a four and two singles not the ideal first over back.

206/6. Leach to continue.

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 5:10 am

And Leach has a wicket ! Or does he ?

Lbw given but Green reviews...no edge...is it clipping the stumps ?

Looks a bit leggy to me ...yes : but umpire's call so Green has to go . Was well bowled , arm ball , Green back on his stumps and pays the price.

207/7

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Dec 2021, 5:14 am

Incidentally that was an impressive appeal from Leach...certainly swayed the umpire Smile

Was shown hitting with enough of the ball so I don't think the batsman can complain.

Cummins has had a magic match so far ; what will he do with the bat ?

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