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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 14 Jun 2022 - 21:57

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Serena Williams has been granted a wildcard and will play

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Post by naxroy Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 15:25

sirfredperry wrote:Can Sinner do anything against Djoko today? Probably not, as I'm expecting Novak to be on top form and for the Italian to perhaps be a notch or two below his level against Kyrgios.

You meant Carlos instead of Kyrgios?

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 15:31

Djokovic breaks to love 3-1

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 15:36

Djokovic backs up the break 4-1

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Post by AlciG Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 15:41

Point of the tournament

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Post by AlciG Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 15:43

Looks like Sinner is going to have to win this in 4 sets. If it goes 5 I can't see Novak loosing

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 15:44

Djokovic holds 5-2. He’s rediscovered his forehand and first serve.

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Post by AlciG Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 15:47

Jeff Navarro wrote:Djokovic holds 5-2. He’s rediscovered his forehand and first serve.

Yeah... He is now starting to dominate with his FH from the baseline

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 15:51

Sinner saves 2 set points and holds 3-5

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 15:53

Djokovic wins third set 6-3 and the Serb back to crushing his forehand

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 15:55

Djokovic 80% first serves in the third set. Crazy

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 16:01

Djokovic breaks 1-0 terrible game by Sinner too many errors

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Post by AlciG Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 16:03

Sinner looks to have totally lost it. All Djoko now.


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Post by sirfredperry Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 16:05

naxroy wrote:
sirfredperry wrote:Can Sinner do anything against Djoko today? Probably not, as I'm expecting Novak to be on top form and for the Italian to perhaps be a notch or two below his level against Kyrgios.

You meant Carlos instead of Kyrgios?

Yeah, sorry.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 16:05

Djokovic holds 2-0

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Post by Soul Requiem Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 16:05

It's a common theme with the next generation, superb for two sets and then completely fall apart. The moment Djokovic broke to love in the third set it became a certainty that he'd go on to win.

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Post by sirfredperry Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 16:08

When you hear that Djoko is a set down in a GS match you reckon he'll probably win in four.

Even when it's two sets to love down you think that if anyone can come back and win in five it's Novak.

Slow starts seem to be the norm for him these days but the wins keep coming.

It also shows just how hard it is to beat the top players over five sets. The problem is that you have to play well for long enough to get those three sets. One set - not a problem. Two sets - may be possible. But three sets? Very difficult.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 16:13

Djokovic double break 3-0. Sinner seems to have punched himself out

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Post by debaters1 Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 16:15

Could well finish 6-0 6-0. Which isn't what looked likely 45 minutes ago.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 16:16

Djokovic love hold 4-0 could be over fairly quickly at this rate

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 16:20

Sinner avoids the bagel 1-4 l

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Post by AlciG Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 16:20

Soul Requiem wrote:It's a common theme with the next generation, superb for two sets and then completely fall apart. The moment Djokovic broke to love in the third set it became a certainty that he'd go on to win.

Maybe it says more about the big 3 than it does the next gen. Those 3 are just unbelievable.
Can you imagine if they hadn't been around in each others era... how much could they have won?

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Post by Soul Requiem Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 16:24

AlciG wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:It's a common theme with the next generation, superb for two sets and then completely fall apart. The moment Djokovic broke to love in the third set it became a certainty that he'd go on to win.

Maybe it says more about the big 3 than it does the next gen. Those 3 are just unbelievable.
Can you imagine if they hadn't been around in each others era... how much could they have won?

This excuse gets made every time, they are not the players they once were and the new generation should be beating a couple of guys in their mid 30's. There might come a time when people start to admit that mens tennis is in the doldrums.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 16:24

Djokovic 5-1

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Post by debaters1 Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 16:30

AlciG wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:It's a common theme with the next generation, superb for two sets and then completely fall apart. The moment Djokovic broke to love in the third set it became a certainty that he'd go on to win.

Maybe it says more about the big 3 than it does the next gen. Those 3 are just unbelievable.
Can you imagine if they hadn't been around in each others era... how much could they have won?

The thing about this is that they made each other better. Certainly Rafa's overall game would not be what it is without the presence of RF and ND.

Roger definitely adapted his game to deal with Rafa and Novak as well and NDs devasting cross-court BH wqs developed in response to what Rafa was doing to him.

Could they each have dominated without the others, yes, would they have been as good, no IMHO and probably would NOT have lasted as long as a mix of stagnation and entropy could have allowed younger guys to burst through sooner. All speculation of course.

Whatever else can be said, as fans we've had a fantastic 17/18 years. Thank you guys. And honourable mentions to Andy and Stan as well.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 16:38

Djokovic takes the fourth 6-2

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 16:38

Sinner took a heavy fall in that last game fortunately no injury

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 16:40

Sinner 44% first serve in set 4. Not getting the job done with that level

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 16:46

Sinner holds 1-0
Djokovic fully into the zone now. Sinner finding it difficult to get cheap points

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 16:51

Djokovic holds 1-1 much easier on serve for the Serb since set 3

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 16:55

Djokovic breaks 2-1

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 16:59

Djokovic holds 3-1

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 17:02

Sinner with a rare love hold 2-3. Djokovic has become the machine against in these last 3 sets.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 17:11

Djokovic breaks again 5-2

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 17:14

Djokovic wins 5-7 2-6 6-3 6-2 6-2
The entire match basically turned when Djokovic broke Sinner early in set 3, Sinner just couldn’t stop the Serb’s onslaught after that.

I would be surprised if Djokovic didn’t win the title now.

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Post by sirfredperry Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 17:15

Two sets down? No prob. Just take the last three sets 3, 2 and 2.

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Post by naxroy Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 17:21

Jeff Navarro wrote:

I would be surprised if Djokovic didn’t win the title now.


exactly what I though

after this comeback he must feel unbeatable, and his semifinal rival seems easier than todays.

This will be hard for Sinner


I dont know if Rafa will reach the final, but if he does, he should have a real hard time against this last 3 sets' Nole

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Post by sirfredperry Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 17:38

I know there are some who feel the young guys should be stepping up and beating the mid-30 somethings.

But, first, we are talking about, arguably, the greatest players the game has seen.

And secondly, I do think that the likes of Sinner and Alcaraz, although raw at times, look far more capable of beating the big boys than the previous young contenders Tsitsipas and Zverev are/were.

I think you saw in those last three sets just what a good player Djoko still is. There were very few unforced errors, his retrieving was as good as ever and, invariably, he played the right shot at the right time.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 19:20

Norrie beats Goffin 3-6 7-5 2-6 6-3 7-5
Don’t give Norrie any real hope against Djokovic

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Post by sirfredperry Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 19:26

Jeff Navarro wrote:Norrie beats Goffin 3-6 7-5 2-6 6-3 7-5
Don’t give Norrie any real hope against Djokovic

Although I was hoping Cam would win, I think Goffin would have given Djoko a better match in the semi.

Can't see Norrie even getting a set.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 19:31

Historic victory for Ons Jabeur, who comes from behind to reach the semi finals beating Marie Bouzkova 3-6 6-1 6-1. First Arab woman to reach major semi final.

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Post by Henman Bill Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 19:32

Norrie one of the losers as a result of this rankings points decision, he could have been up to about 8 by the look of it, instead of stuck outside the top 10. Potentially the decision not to award ranking points for Wimbledon might cost him a place at the world tour finals.

Now that Andy Murray is past his best, British men's tennis is down a level, however with Cameron Norrie now having 1 masters series as well as the capability to reach Wimbledon semis we are now back to Tim Henman levels at least Very Happy

Will Tim be in the commentary box for the semi to give his thoughts on how best as an underdog in a slam semi to beat the tournament favourite?  Wimbledon 2022 - Page 5 1f602

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Post by sirfredperry Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 19:53

Still don't rate Norrie that highly. The BH is a bit suspect and he is prone to chucking in horror service games.

But he's a fighter, is clearly very fit and makes the most of what he has got.

Wonder whether Goffin, after his ultra-long match v Tiafoe, ran out of steam at the end. There were a lot of UEs.

In the women's a final between Halep and Jabeur would be good.

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Post by naxroy Tue 5 Jul 2022 - 19:59

Nobody is stopping Novak. He will lift the trophy.

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Post by No name Bertie Wed 6 Jul 2022 - 0:28

Whatever happened to Kyle Edmund? Reached the 2018 Aus Open semi-final and then vanished from the radar. There was also another semi-finalist at that same tournament called Chung Hyeon who also then vanished from the radar. They must have been 23 /21 at the time.

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Post by Henman Bill Wed 6 Jul 2022 - 2:25

Checking Edmund on wikipedia poor ish form in 2019 then knee injury in 2021 perhaps hasn´t recovered yet. Looking at his results on his wikipedia page he was more of a top 50 player that got one slam semi and got into the top 20 temporarily as a result.

He´s only got to R4 of a slam twice, and never to a masters semi.

I checked his AO run and he was down 2 sets to 1 in both R1 and R3 before getting to the semi. It´s a fine line between success and failure.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Wed 6 Jul 2022 - 14:15

Jeff Navarro wrote:Norrie beats Goffin 3-6 7-5 2-6 6-3 7-5
Don’t give Norrie any real hope against Djokovic

Agreed.

Full credit to Cameron Norrie for getting this far but he won't be able to live with Djokovic's all-round top quality, fitness, shots and durability. Cam will do very well to take a set off Novak. I wish him all the best though. It is a very notable achievement by Norrie though becoming only the fourth British man to reach Wimbledon semi in the Open era.
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Post by Jeff Navarro Wed 6 Jul 2022 - 14:41

Simona Halep make it through to the semifinals against a rather rabbit in the headlines Amanda Anisimova. The Romanian winning 6-2 6-4. Second set became competitive when Halep got tight serving for the match.

Anisimova leaked errors all over the place and her terrible movement was exposed by Halep. Anisimova is a great striker but the movement

Crazy to think Halep(30) moves like a 20 year old and Anisimova(20) moves like a 30 year old...

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Post by Soul Requiem Wed 6 Jul 2022 - 14:43

Halep has been mighty impressive so far, after losing to Zheng in the French Open second round I thought the writing was on the wall for her career after so many recent injuries. She's come into Wimbledon with a more aggressive mindset and is reaping the rewards with five straight forward victories.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Wed 6 Jul 2022 - 15:06

Elena Rybakina beats Alja Tomljanovic 4-6 6-2 6-3

Women’s semifinals:
Ons Jabuer vs Tatjana Maria
Elena Rybakina vs Simona Halep

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Post by sirfredperry Wed 6 Jul 2022 - 15:08

Only caught the end of the Halep match. Big relief for Simona to get over the line just as her opponent finally started to play.

Saw a lot of the other quarter. Too many UEs from the Aussie. Surprising thing for me was the Rybakina serve. She hit 15 aces and managed to reach 117mph.

For me, it's still likely to be a Halep-Jabeur final which could be a good match.

Can't see Fritz causing Rafa much trouble today. As for the Kyrgios match I guess we'll probably see another meltdown by Nick.

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