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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 14 Jun 2022, 9:57 pm

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Serena Williams has been granted a wildcard and will play

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Post by Jeff Navarro Fri 24 Jun 2022, 11:32 am

Jannik Sinner gets Stan Wawrinka in R1.
Andy Murray drawn in same section as Sinner/Wawrinka. Murray gets Duckworth in R1.
Murray could face Sinner in R3 and Alcaraz is a potential R4 opponent.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Fri 24 Jun 2022, 11:33 am

Nadal potentially faces Querrey in R2 and Cilic in R4.

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Post by naxroy Fri 24 Jun 2022, 12:40 pm

Tough for Nadal


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Post by No name Bertie Fri 24 Jun 2022, 5:20 pm

Rafael Nadal Wimbledon:
2006-2011: Winner x 2, Runner up x 2, absent x 1
2012-2017: 4R x 2, 2R x 2, 1R x 1, absent x 1
2018-2019: SF x 2:  lost in marathon 5 setter to Djokovic & lost to Federer (who narrowly lost to Djokovic in the final).
2020 .......: No Wimbledon
2021 .......: absent

If Nadal plays like he did in 2018 and 2019 then he must have a chance for the title assuming his body doesn't fall apart.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Fri 24 Jun 2022, 6:51 pm

Seems like I missed it at the time but Andy Murray could face big John Isner in R2. I highly doubt anyone enjoys facing the serve bot on grass.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Fri 24 Jun 2022, 6:54 pm

Stefanos Tsitsipas reached the final of ATP 250 grass event in Mallorca. He will face Spanish Roberto Bautista-Agut in the final. I use the term grass court very loosely, the court looks terrible and almost like dirt.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Sat 25 Jun 2022, 4:46 pm

Tsitsipas beats RBA 6-4 3-6 7-6. Tsitsipas’ first title on grass. The Greek made hard work off it. He was a break up in the second set. He served for the title in the third. Eventually taking the tie break easily.

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Post by sirfredperry Sun 26 Jun 2022, 6:47 am

Kvitova overcame defending champ Ostapenko in Eastbourne and must be considered a contender for Wimbledon.

Saw some of the final and Petra looked something like back to her best.

Difficult to know what to make of Wimbledon this year as it's a "pointless" tournament. Plenty of money at stake, of course, as well as glory.

You can't help feeling sorry in advance for, say, the finalists and the semi finalists who will have got nearly all the way and will have nothing to show for it in terms of improved rankings.


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Post by alfie Sun 26 Jun 2022, 8:36 am

Yeah I really don't like the "no points" decision. I know opinions may differ over the Wimbledon Russia ban - and sure , it is rough on some individuals ; though not as rough as the damn war is on the poor Ukraine people : but surely it is the right of the hosts to make a rule just as they all did over vaccinations ?
Taking points out of the event penalises all players ; and to what end ? Didn't change anything ; just makes the rankings basically nonsense until it all washes out...

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Post by No name Bertie Sun 26 Jun 2022, 11:34 am

alfie wrote:but surely it is the right of the hosts to make a rule just as they all did over vaccinations ?  ...
This has been explained and discussed previously.   The tournament goes ahead but will not form part of the ATP nor WTA tours for this year because the tournament did not satisfy the ATP and WTA rulings on the Ukraine issue - individuals able to compete as individuals but not representing Russia nor Bellarussia - hence all Russian and Bellarussian flags have been removed from the ATP and WTA website and in all draws in which the tournament forms part of the ATP & WTA tours.  Once sport is politicized then there will be arguments such as banning NATO countries for the destruction and impoverishment of civilians in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan etc.

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Post by sirfredperry Sun 26 Jun 2022, 7:11 pm

Both Murray and Emma R will be in action on the first day of Wimbledon.

Murray has the early-evening slot which suits the BBC who can endlessly annoy viewers, particularly those recording matches, by constantly switching from BBC1 to BBC2.

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Post by No name Bertie Sun 26 Jun 2022, 9:04 pm

I think this is the best chance for Rafael Nadal to win at Wimbledon for a long time. Not sure about Djokovic nor Alcaraz but expect them to meet in the QF. Tsitsipas is poor on grass but won his first grass tournament yesterday - the ATP250 in Mallorca. Berrettini should go through the draw fairly comfortably until he meets someone with a good return and variation. It would be quite a story if at the end of two weeks Nadal is holding three current grand slam trophies.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Sun 26 Jun 2022, 9:36 pm

Can’t see Nadal winning Wimbledon tbh. His key weakness on grass, since his prime when he made those 5 finals, is the defensive back hand slice just isn’t as good on grass as it is on clay or HC.
FAA somewhat exposed this in the exhibition match the played a few days ago.

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Post by No name Bertie Sun 26 Jun 2022, 9:52 pm

I forgot above FAA. Since Toni Nadal was added to his coaching team he has been quite impressive and consistent. It will be interesting to see how far he gets at Wimbledon. Last year he reached the QF (beaten by Berrettini in 4 sets) and this year he is drawn to meet Nadal in the QF.

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Jun 2022, 9:09 am

No name Bertie wrote:
alfie wrote:but surely it is the right of the hosts to make a rule just as they all did over vaccinations ?  ...
This has been explained and discussed previously.   The tournament goes ahead but will not form part of the ATP nor WTA tours for this year because the tournament did not satisfy the ATP and WTA rulings on the Ukraine issue - individuals able to compete as individuals but not representing Russia nor Bellarussia - hence all Russian and Bellarussian flags have been removed from the ATP and WTA website and in all draws in which the tournament forms part of the ATP & WTA tours.  Once sport is politicized then there will be arguments such as banning NATO countries for the destruction and impoverishment of civilians in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan etc.

Yeah I take your point , Bertie...but I don't have to like it.

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Post by dummy_half Mon 27 Jun 2022, 10:58 am

Jeff Navarro wrote:Seems like I missed it at the time but Andy Murray could face big John Isner in R2. I highly doubt anyone enjoys facing the serve bot on grass.

Not sure Andy would mind that draw too much - he's still one of the finest returners in the game and it is likely to be a match dominated by short points. The battle playing against the likes of Isner is more mental than physical, in taking the rare opportunities to break serve or win the tie breaks. Murray has an 8-0 H2H advantage and has only lost 5 sets to Isner in his career, 4 in tie breaks, so suggests it's a match up that Andy doesn't have that many difficulties with historically (although noting they haven't played since 2016).

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Post by sirfredperry Mon 27 Jun 2022, 11:57 am

Well, they managed around 30-40 mins at Wimbledon before the forecast rain arrived.

Time for Norrie to bagel Andujar in the first set, although the veteran Spaniard has got an early break in the second.

At least once we get to 1.30pm we're guaranteed tennis thanks to Centre and No 1's roofs.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Mon 27 Jun 2022, 2:55 pm

Interesting match developing on Centre Court as Djokovic and Kwon split the opening two sets. Both went 6-3.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Mon 27 Jun 2022, 3:32 pm

Djokovic takes the third set 6-3, leading 2 sets to 1. Should be enough to beat Kwon’s resistance now.

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Post by dummy_half Mon 27 Jun 2022, 4:06 pm

Norrie is 2 sets and 5-3 up and deuce, after (iirc) 3 match points on Andujar's serve, and has been off court now for 2 hours because of the rain...

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Post by Jeff Navarro Mon 27 Jun 2022, 4:25 pm

Djokovic beat Kwon 6-3 3-6 6-3 6-4. Its wasn’t a vintage performance by defending champion by any stretch of the imagination. But he won.

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Post by naxroy Mon 27 Jun 2022, 5:37 pm

Hurkazc out. Davidovich almost choke it with 2-0 sets and serving  5-3 and 40-0. The match then went to a 5th set, but finally won it


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Post by Jeff Navarro Mon 27 Jun 2022, 6:43 pm

Carlitos Alcaraz beats Jan-Lennard Struff 4-6 7-5 4-6 7-6 6-4 in a marathon 4hr+ opening round contest. Alcaraz did well to recover from 2 sets to 1 down as the German was really playing well.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Mon 27 Jun 2022, 7:58 pm

Marin Cilic withdraws with Covid19

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Post by Jeff Navarro Mon 27 Jun 2022, 8:51 pm

Jannik Sinner beats Stan Wawrinka 7-5 4-6 6-3 6-2

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Post by Jeff Navarro Mon 27 Jun 2022, 9:43 pm

Andy Murray beats James Duckworth 4-6 6-3 6-2 6-4 in a pretty entertaining match - final set was under the roof.

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Post by sirfredperry Mon 27 Jun 2022, 10:07 pm

Alcaraz looked down and out at 2-0 down in the 4th set tiebreak but a terrific shot got it back on serve and he went on to win the set and then the match.

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Post by dummy_half Tue 28 Jun 2022, 8:37 am

Jeff Navarro wrote:Andy Murray beats James Duckworth 4-6 6-3 6-2 6-4 in a pretty entertaining match - final set was under the roof.

Don't know if anyone's kept the stats for thiis, but I reckon Andy must have played more under the Centre Court roof than pretty much anyone else.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Tue 28 Jun 2022, 10:22 am

I wonder if Andy can keep going long enough to get to 200 wins in Grand Slam tournament matches. Yesterday saw him chalk up win 194 with 50 losses.

An improving sort of a performance for Andy and next up is big John Isner.
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Post by alfie Tue 28 Jun 2022, 11:25 am

CaledonianCraig wrote:I wonder if Andy can keep going long enough to get to 200 wins in Grand Slam tournament matches. Yesterday saw him chalk up win 194 with 50 losses.

An improving sort of a performance for Andy and next up is big John Isner.

Six more now would give him the title Smile Wouldn't that be nice ?

I do hope he can go deep this week. But Isner will be tough next up. Andy has had problems stringing wins together - naturally enough given his age and injury issues ; but hopefully that hip continues to be easier to manage and he can get a few more successes in front of his home crowd.

When are you going to pop back on to the cricket board , Craig ? Have missed you on there for a while - we don't bite , really...


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Post by alfie Tue 28 Jun 2022, 11:30 am

Well Berrettini's challenge is over very early : Covid sees him withdrawn ; which is rotten luck - whatever one thought of his chances - in a season in which he's been in such good form.

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Post by naxroy Tue 28 Jun 2022, 11:48 am

very sorry for him.

I feel this is gonna get out of control. Lets wait

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 28 Jun 2022, 12:02 pm

Devastated for Matteo. This bloody covid…

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Post by CaledonianCraig Tue 28 Jun 2022, 12:26 pm

alfie wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:I wonder if Andy can keep going long enough to get to 200 wins in Grand Slam tournament matches. Yesterday saw him chalk up win 194 with 50 losses.

An improving sort of a performance for Andy and next up is big John Isner.

Six more now would give him the title Smile   Wouldn't that be nice ?

I do hope he can go deep this week. But Isner will be tough next up. Andy has had problems stringing wins together - naturally enough given his age and injury issues ; but hopefully that hip continues to be easier to manage and he can get a few more successes in front of his home crowd.

When are you going to pop back on to the cricket board , Craig ? Have missed you on there for a while - we don't bite , really...


I am sure he can get those six to reach the 200 mark but that won't be this fortnight. It may be that it comes about at the Australian Open 2023.

As for cricket board I enjoyed posting projected scores for the day etc but it was clear those posts were not welcomed by the masses. Best let you all discuss the tests in the way they want it discussed.
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Post by Duty281 Tue 28 Jun 2022, 12:34 pm

Might as well just hand the trophy to Djokovic now.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 28 Jun 2022, 12:44 pm

Duty281 wrote:Might as well just hand the trophy to Djokovic now.
Not so fast! There’s still plenty of good players about. Carlitos and FAA could be the ones!

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Post by dummy_half Tue 28 Jun 2022, 12:44 pm

alfie wrote:Well Berrettini's challenge is over very early : Covid sees him withdrawn ; which is rotten luck - whatever one thought of his chances - in a season in which he's been in such good form.

While not his biggest fan, that's definitely bad news for the tournament, as he's one of the very few players whose game really suits the grass.

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Post by dummy_half Tue 28 Jun 2022, 12:45 pm

Well, not Dimitrov - had to retire while leading his first round match,

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 28 Jun 2022, 2:56 pm

Swiatek beats Fett 6-0 6-3 to win 36th consecutive match. Score line slightly flatters the Pole.

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Post by naxroy Tue 28 Jun 2022, 3:05 pm

Jeff Navarro wrote:Swiatek beats Fett 6-0 6-3 to win 36th consecutive match. Score line slightly flatters the Pole.

that was an uncomfortable 2nd set for Iga

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 28 Jun 2022, 3:48 pm

Self proclaimed ‘top 5 grass court player’ Nick Kyrgios beats Paul Jubb 3-6 6-1 7-5 6-7 7-5. The Australian seemed to be close to meltdown at various moments but he survived.

Coco Gauff beat Elena-Gabriela Ruse 2-6 6-3 7-5. Gauff was woeful on BP conversion 4/25

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Post by theslosty Tue 28 Jun 2022, 4:17 pm

Have a feeling Felix A-A might make a breakthrough this tournament, Novak not invincible if challenged
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Post by CaledonianCraig Tue 28 Jun 2022, 6:00 pm

I do like Jack Draper's game. It has a lot to like about it and he won his first slam match today against a handy looking opponent in straight sets. Draper on the rise.
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Post by naxroy Tue 28 Jun 2022, 6:51 pm

Rafa is having a real hard time

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 28 Jun 2022, 7:01 pm

Nadal beats Cerundolo 6-4 6-3 3-6 6-4. Nadal went awol at times in sets 3 and 4.

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Post by naxroy Tue 28 Jun 2022, 7:39 pm

And this is how draws open some times.


Cerundolo - Querrey - Sonego - Cilic - FAA - Berrettini - Djokovic

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Post by naxroy Tue 28 Jun 2022, 8:21 pm

naxroy wrote:And this is how draws open some times.


Cerundolo - Querrey - Sonego - Cilic - FAA - Berrettini - Djokovic

FAA lost to Cressy

Cerundolo - Querrey - Sonego - Cilic - FAA - Berrettini - Djokovic

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Post by sirfredperry Tue 28 Jun 2022, 8:26 pm

Serena loses the first set 7-5 after being 4-2 up. Her opponent playing a canny game - lots of lobs and drop shots.


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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 28 Jun 2022, 8:29 pm

Cressy chops down FAA 6-7 6-4 7-6 7-6

Nadal’s draw getting better by the hour

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Post by Jeff Navarro Tue 28 Jun 2022, 10:36 pm

Harmony Tan takes out Serena Williams 7-5 1-6 7-6. Amazing moment for the Frenchwoman.

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