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Dragons RFC - new name, new season: 2022/23

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Post by Guest Mon 27 Jun 2022, 7:23 pm

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New name, bit of a rebrand…..but same old Dragons? Hopefully not!

Player movements:

Players In:

Bradley Roberts from Ireland Ulster
JJ Hanrahan from France Clermont
Rhodri Jones from Wales Ospreys
Sean Lonsdale from England Exeter Chiefs
Max Clark from England Bath
George Nott from England London Irish
Sio Tomkinson from New Zealand Highlanders
Angus O'Brien from Wales Scarlets
Lewis Jones from Wales Cardiff
Rob Evans from Wales Scarlets


Players Out:

Taylor Davies returned to Wales Scarlets
Dan Babos released
Mesake Doge released
Tom Griffiths released
Jordan Olowofela returned to England Leicester Tigers
Max Williams released
Josh Lewis to Wales Merthyr
Jonah Holmes to England Ealing Trailfinders
Dan Baker to Wales Aberavon
Owen Jenkins to Wales Wales Sevens
Will Talbot-Davies to England Coventry
Greg Bateman retired
Joe Maksymiw to France Agen
Evan Lloyd to Wales Ebbw Vale
Carrick McDonough to Wales Ebbw Vale
Adam Warren to Wales Llandovery
Harry Fry to England Hartpury University

Some decent signings there, on paper. And lots of players leaving who were not that good. But also losing a couple of decent ones in Doge and Holmes.

Fingers crossed for a few more wins this season Fingers Crossed Wales


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Post by mikey_dragon Mon 26 Sep 2022, 1:15 pm

I think it would be worth having him over Cory Allen. Going forward I would also continue with TH and lock forward investment, if at all possible. Hooker as well if we lose one to team Wales and Elliot Dee moves elsewhere.

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Post by RiscaGame Mon 26 Sep 2022, 2:05 pm

There's probably a good chance that Dee might be less keen to leave, now Dean the Dinosaur has gone. Guess it depends as to how many mins he plays behind Roberts.

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Post by mikey_dragon Mon 26 Sep 2022, 2:10 pm

Looks like Roberts is actively trying so far, and playing quite well. Gotta be honest I haven't seen that from Dee in a while.

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Post by Welshmushroom Wed 28 Sep 2022, 11:45 am

Roberts has been excellent.

I actually think Shipp should be given some backup chances. Purely from a tactical viewpoint I probably would let Dee go as one of the other regions would probably pick him up. He's not the same player he was a couple of seasons ago and hasn't really kicked on like he should have. I'm guessing he probably is on good wages as well so I would use that cash to go out and get a quality 9. I'd love for us to pick up Blacker from the Scarlets with the promises of game time. He look's quality every time he gets a chance but he just isn't seeing the games at the Scarlets.

I'm still on the fence with Williams, Bertranou and Jones at 9. It's an area I think they really need to look at.

The good news is a bulk of our squad is quite young which means as long as they can keep them together they a strong base to build from when you compare it to the ageing squads at the other regions.

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Post by mikey_dragon Wed 28 Sep 2022, 8:44 pm

I think Roberts came away from Edinburgh with some credit. Two games in and the stats also back him up. If Dee goes, likely to Cardiff, I’d prefer a decent NWQ to come in. Cardiff will also be lurking for Rowlands and Nott in the coming seasons, that I can bet you on. I wish we had signed Joe Peard, he would still be better than Davies.

Scrum-half - well the first two options are good. I agree Dane Blacker looks good enough to be a starter. It would make sense for him to move on, it wouldn’t make sense for him to join us unless Gonzalo is gone - Lewis Jones is meh. Looks as though Ospreys need a decent 9 behind Webb, that would be a good place for Blacker.

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Post by mikey_dragon Wed 05 Oct 2022, 8:54 pm

The dreaded ‘rotation’ coming on already. That’ll backfire badly in Benetton. I’d probably rest Rowlands but that’s it.

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Post by PhilBB Thu 06 Oct 2022, 8:58 am

mikey_dragon wrote:I think Roberts came away from Edinburgh with some credit. Two games in and the stats also back him up. If Dee goes, likely to Cardiff, I’d prefer a decent NWQ to come in. Cardiff will also be lurking for Rowlands and Nott in the coming seasons, that I can bet you on. I wish we had signed Joe Peard, he would still be better than Davies.

Scrum-half - well the first two options are good. I agree Dane Blacker looks good enough to be a starter. It would make sense for him to move on, it wouldn’t make sense for him to join us unless Gonzalo is gone - Lewis Jones is meh. Looks as though Ospreys need a decent 9 behind Webb, that would be a good place for Blacker.

Dee and Rowlands are out of contract this season.

The end of the 60 cap rule may well mean Rowlands goes back to England, as would an English club's valuation of him compared to how Pivac rates him (because Pivac is an idiot).
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Post by mikey_dragon Thu 06 Oct 2022, 2:07 pm

I think Pivac has finally seen the value in Rowlands, if he's fit then he starts. If Pivac has him as anything other than first choice then he's a bigger idiot than I initially thought.

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Post by PhilBB Mon 10 Oct 2022, 10:36 am

mikey_dragon wrote:I think Pivac has finally seen the value in Rowlands, if he's fit then he starts. If Pivac has him as anything other than first choice then he's a bigger idiot than I initially thought.

It's more his salary valuation that is at odds with market realities (dependent upon whether the 60 cap rule stays or goes)
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Post by PhilBB Mon 17 Oct 2022, 3:40 pm

It's quiet in here.
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Post by RiscaGame Mon 17 Oct 2022, 3:47 pm

I didn't get to watch it sadly, although the result was not unexpected for me. I was going to catch up when I got back from a gig, but read the score on social media and so gave it a swerve.

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Post by mikey_dragon Mon 17 Oct 2022, 6:28 pm

Not much else to post about here, with the weekly match threads running. There wouldn’t be much to post about it without those threads anyway Very Happy. I wonder if there’ll be any additional Dragons in the Wales squad as of tomorrow? I think AOB is an outside bet, but his defence isn’t up to it - neither is Johnny McNicholl’s or Tom Rogers’, but you would be more inclined to bet on these two. Possibly Rio Dyer an outside bet too. It doesn’t seem like Nott, Wainwright and Moriarty have had enough game time, but Ross is more likely to walk back in anyway.

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Post by mikey_dragon Wed 30 Nov 2022, 12:55 pm

More pro-Ospreys and anti-Dragons bias at https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/welsh - It makes me sick. Just look at the headlines, and then look at the language used in the Ospreys artcile compared to ours. You'd swear it was Dragons who got battered and were not far off shipping 50. Rubbish Ospreys got battered again. Fair play to Dragons who are far better than last year and did alright against the Lions.


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Post by Oakdene Wed 30 Nov 2022, 2:14 pm

Nothing on that link Mikey...says it's invalid?

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Post by mikey_dragon Wed 30 Nov 2022, 2:30 pm

It's just the BBC Wales Rugby home page, you can find both articles there.

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Post by Oakdene Wed 30 Nov 2022, 2:57 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:It's just the BBC Wales Rugby home page, you can find both articles there.


Ah ok, I can't see an Ospreys article but can see the plucky Dragons headline.

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