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Post by Guest Tue 12 Jul 2022, 10:39 am

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Here it is:

Springbok team to face Wales in Cape Town:
15 – Damian Willemse (DHL Stormers) – 17 caps, 12 pts (1t, 2c, 1p)
14 – Cheslin Kolbe (Toulon) – 19 caps 18pts, 50pts (10t)
13 – Lukhanyo Am (Cell C Sharks) – 27 caps, 25 pts (5t)
12 – Damian de Allende (Wild Knights) – 59 caps, 35 pts (7t)
11 – Makazole Mapimpi (Cell C Sharks) – 26 caps, 100 pts (20t)
10 – Handre Pollard (Leicester Tigers) – 61 caps, 613 pts (6t, 83c, 131p, 4d)
9 – Jaden Hendrikse (Cell C Sharks) – 3 caps, 5 pts (1t)
8 – Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers) – 12 caps, 0 pts
7 – Pieter-Steph du Toit (Toyota Verblitz) – 59 caps, 25 pts (5t)
6 – Siya Kolisi (captain, Cell C Sharks) – 64 caps, 30 pts (6t)
5 – Lood de Jager (Wild Knights) – 57 caps, 25 pts (5t)
4 – Eben Etzebeth (Cell C Sharks) – 99 caps, 15 pts (3t)
3 – Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers) – 47 caps, 5pts (1t)
2 – Bongi Mbonambi (Cell C Sharks) – 49 caps, 50 pts (10t)
1 – Trevor Nyakane (Racing 92) – 55 caps, 5pts (1t)

Replacements:
16 – Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 48 caps, 55 pts (11t)
17 – Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers) – 60 caps, 5pts (1t)
18 – Vincent Koch (Wasps) 33 caps, 0 pts
19 – Franco Mostert (Honda Heat) – 52 caps, 5pts (1t)
20 – Kwagga Smith (Shizuoka Blue Revs) – 20 caps, 5 pts (1t)
21 – Elrigh Louw (Vodacom Bulls) – 1 cap, 0pts
22 – Faf de Klerk (Canon Eagles) – 37caps, 25pts (5t)
23 – Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz) – 73 caps, 60 pts (12t)

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Post by majesticimperialman Sun 20 Nov 2022, 8:12 am

RiscaGame wrote:
majesticimperialman wrote:With Wales losing to Georgia what now for Pivac?
Will he lead Wales to the RWC or will he be removed before then?

Thank the Lord you’re asking the questions that have already been asked. This from the England fan that didn’t know all AI games were on prime. Have a day off and try google, orR read some posts before, for half your rubbish

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Just for the record i am almost blind, i cannot read normal print so if it was printed on the nes papers the the AI was on prime i would not of known because i do not read news papers. But please explain why my asking if Pivac will lead Wales to the RWC after the loss to Georgia is a rubbish question?

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sun 20 Nov 2022, 8:16 am

99.9 per cent of your questions I just think are bizarre wums.

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Post by majesticimperialman Sun 20 Nov 2022, 9:04 am

No 7&1/2 wrote:99.9 per cent of your questions I just think are bizarre wums.

WHY?

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Post by TJ Sun 20 Nov 2022, 9:05 am

7 1/2 thinks that of anyone who does not agree with him and unless you are welsh you are not allowed to criticise Wales.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sun 20 Nov 2022, 9:29 am

TJ wrote:7 1/2 thinks that of anyone who does not agree with him and unless you are welsh you are not allowed to criticise Wales.

Maj doesn't really offer many opinions, go back and have a little read of his past posting history. I don't think you're a wum for example though I disagree with you on many issues.

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Post by RDW Mon 21 Nov 2022, 10:28 am

I know things are pretty glum for the Wales fans but you're going to be facing a Wallabies team completely run out of steam this weekend - they've had another 6 tour ending injuries at the weekend to add to the lengthy list already this season. And this will be a 5th international test in a row at the end of a long season. I don't actually know of they have 23 fit players left!

Perfect opportunity for Wales to finish the year on a high!

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Post by mikey_dragon Mon 21 Nov 2022, 10:30 am

They had a red card last year and still almost beat us. I think Australia's power runners up front will be too much for us (unless all those players are injured).

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Post by RDW Mon 21 Nov 2022, 10:34 am

Taupo, Valentini and Paisami on the list - the first two in particular are about as powerful as you can get!

Pete Samu will probably start over Bobby V - he's a dynamic player but not as powerful. Don't think any player in world rugby is as powerful as Taupo - Alaalatoa is a solid enough TH but their replacement now is a huge step down.

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Post by mikey_dragon Mon 21 Nov 2022, 10:44 am

Agree on those two, while Paisami is quite a skillful player. That leaves Samu, and Skelton unless he can't play in this fixture?

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Post by RDW Mon 21 Nov 2022, 10:55 am

Outside the international window so Skelton will be out too

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Post by mountain man Mon 21 Nov 2022, 11:13 am

Nawaqanitawase was brilliant for Australia, if he gets in space look out.

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Post by majesticimperialman Mon 21 Nov 2022, 9:19 pm

What i do not understand is why Wales play these games against Australia with out having their full player base. [ those who play out side of Wales)

If Wales lose this week will it be because they did not have ther English player this wee?

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Post by RDW Mon 21 Nov 2022, 9:25 pm

majesticimperialman wrote:What i do not understand is why Wales play these games against Australia with out having their full player base. [ those who play out side of Wales)

If Wales lose this week will it be because they did not have ther English player this wee?

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Every union needs it just now - even Scotland broke with tradition and played a 4th test outside the international window.

Does feel strange having a 5 week Autumn Test series, particularly as there's a full round of club games on both of those extra weekends too.

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Post by RiscaGame Mon 21 Nov 2022, 10:29 pm

majesticimperialman wrote:What i do not understand is why Wales play these games against Australia with out having their full player base. [ those who play out side of Wales)

If Wales lose this week will it be because they did not have ther English player this wee?

Could it be, that they want more Welsh players playing at home. Even dopey Pivac mentions about training time and selected a side against Georgia with this game in mind.

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Post by mikey_dragon Tue 22 Nov 2022, 9:38 am

I think he has to have Smith and Francis on the bench for this one. Wainwright has done alright, but shouldn't have been thrown in against Georgia with so little experience. Pivac's fault again, I guess. I'm not sure what happens with the back-row now. I imagine it'll be Morgan, Tipuric, Faletau. It might be wise to put one of our locks at blinde-side to compensate for what we are missing. Pivac will likely select the aforementioned with AWJ (because Habana says so) and McLeod on the bench.

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Post by Oakdene Tue 22 Nov 2022, 1:16 pm

Just to show what a shambles the WRU is, they have player & coach press conferences today so for me that should be the skipper & head coach. Nope they send out Josh Mcleod & Neil Jenkins.


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Post by RDW Wed 23 Nov 2022, 9:16 am

https://www.rugby.com.au/news/unavailable-xv-looking-at-the-wallabies-current-injury-toll-ahead-of-wales-20221121

Full list of injured Wallabies - that's basically the entire first choice backline and 5/8 of the starting pack with Hooper just been added to the list!

I don't think I've ever seen an international team with such an injury list.

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Post by mikey_dragon Wed 23 Nov 2022, 9:17 am

I'm sure we've had close to that much in the past, but it does fill me with some hope.

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Post by RiscaGame Wed 23 Nov 2022, 9:18 am

Even Pivac will probably find a way to win this. I did notice we were marginal favourites.

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Post by Oakdene Wed 23 Nov 2022, 9:20 am

RDW wrote:https://www.rugby.com.au/news/unavailable-xv-looking-at-the-wallabies-current-injury-toll-ahead-of-wales-20221121

Full list of injured Wallabies - that's basically the entire first choice backline and 5/8 of the starting pack with Hooper just been added to the list!

I don't think I've ever seen an international team with such an injury list.

Damn that makes the game a bit more winnable for us....

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Post by RDW Wed 23 Nov 2022, 9:31 am

Also makes it a lose lose situation for Wales given it'll make a defeat even worse or the win will come with a caveat.

I'm sure Pivac won't care about the caveat - he needs the win!

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Post by majesticimperialman Wed 23 Nov 2022, 4:53 pm

If Wales win this week end will it stand Pivac in a good place for the RWC?


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Post by RiscaGame Thu 24 Nov 2022, 12:11 pm

Australia's side is okay, despite the injuries. Only having to make 7 changes isn't the worst, considering. The biggest talking point from it, seems to be their supporters would've preferred to have started the replacement 9.

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Post by Oakdene Thu 24 Nov 2022, 12:31 pm

Wales: Leigh Halfpenny; Alex Cuthbert, George North, Joe Hawkins, Rio Dyer; Gareth Anscombe, Tomos Williams; Gareth Thomas, Ken Owens, Dillon Lewis, Adam Beard, Alun Wyn Jones, Jac Morgan, Justin Tipuric, Taulupe Faletau.

Replacements: Ryan Elias, Rhodri Jones, Tomas Francis, Ben Carter, Josh Macleod, Kieran Hardy, Rhys Priestland, Josh Adams.

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Post by RiscaGame Thu 24 Nov 2022, 12:34 pm

Would've started Adams and Dyer. Interesting shout to start Hawkins. Starting AWJ seems a backwards step. Replacement front row hopefully seems a bit stronger for scrummaging, than last week (edit although I do feel for Nicky Smith). I look forward to seeing about Pivac's interview shortly.


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Post by mikey_dragon Thu 24 Nov 2022, 1:16 pm

Rubbish selections from both Wales and Aus. Hopefully Pivac is gone regardless of the result.

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Post by chris_501 Fri 25 Nov 2022, 9:49 am

Apart from Carter and Adams coming in for AWJ and Cuthbert, it’s the strongest team we have. Maybe Alun Wyn’s leadership would have helped last weekend however.

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Post by Oakdene Fri 25 Nov 2022, 2:18 pm

chris_501 wrote:Apart from Carter and Adams coming in for AWJ and Cuthbert, it’s the strongest team we have. Maybe Alun Wyn’s leadership would have helped last weekend however.

Agreed, I think Tipuric doesn't get in the ref's ear & he doesn't seem to lead the team

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Post by majesticimperialman Sat 26 Nov 2022, 11:41 am

I would just like to wish Wales all the best today,

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Post by George Carlin Sat 26 Nov 2022, 3:20 pm

Oh my god - are we going to see Halfpenny in a Wales shirt ever again?
He seems to be perpetually broken.
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Post by majesticimperialman Sat 26 Nov 2022, 4:13 pm

George Carlin wrote:Oh my god - are we going to see Halfpenny in a Wales shirt ever again?
He seems to be perpetually broken.

Re Halfpenny i thought he retired from playing the game and took  to coaching  instead?

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Nov 2022, 4:25 pm

Bit unfortunate for Oz there - YC from a scrum given against them for a knock-on off the knee ...

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 26 Nov 2022, 4:56 pm

He's very lucky that's just a yellow card for that trip.

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Nov 2022, 4:57 pm

Didn't trips used to be red? Maybe that was before the days of the YC?

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Nov 2022, 5:00 pm

Squeaky bum time now ...

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Nov 2022, 5:03 pm

Think they should have taken the 3 guaranteed points there as they need to score twice anyway?

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Nov 2022, 5:05 pm

Wow - double squeaky bum time ...

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Nov 2022, 5:06 pm

Handed a lifeline by a shocker from Oz at the restart

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Nov 2022, 5:11 pm

ooohhhh ...

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Post by JDizzle Sat 26 Nov 2022, 5:12 pm

Incredible effort to lose this game from Wales

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Nov 2022, 5:12 pm

I'm not sure what happened there

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Nov 2022, 5:13 pm

You could soo predict that - 1 second to go and they give up a pen

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Nov 2022, 5:14 pm

Last chance for Wales

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Nov 2022, 5:15 pm

Well what now for Pivac?

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Post by Duty281 Sat 26 Nov 2022, 5:17 pm

Must be one of the worst autumns for Wales - hammered by NZ, lost to Georgia for the first time, and surrendered a 21 point lead to lose to Australia. Only solace being the win over Argentina.

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Nov 2022, 5:18 pm

Commiserations to Wales fans - that was a hard watch.

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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Nov 2022, 5:19 pm

Maybe should have left AWJ on to provide the leadership to close it out?

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Post by tigertattie Sat 26 Nov 2022, 5:19 pm

Heaf wrote:Well what now for Pivac?

At the 60 minute mark the commentators were saying how safe he was was now with a “big win over Australia under them”

Will the WRU back him or go at him like they binned Ruddock?
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Post by Heaf Sat 26 Nov 2022, 5:20 pm

Commentators curse ...

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat 26 Nov 2022, 5:33 pm

Damn I switched off early, was sure Wales had won.

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