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Post by The Oracle Tue 12 Jul 2022, 10:39 am

First topic message reminder :

Here it is:

Springbok team to face Wales in Cape Town:
15 – Damian Willemse (DHL Stormers) – 17 caps, 12 pts (1t, 2c, 1p)
14 – Cheslin Kolbe (Toulon) – 19 caps 18pts, 50pts (10t)
13 – Lukhanyo Am (Cell C Sharks) – 27 caps, 25 pts (5t)
12 – Damian de Allende (Wild Knights) – 59 caps, 35 pts (7t)
11 – Makazole Mapimpi (Cell C Sharks) – 26 caps, 100 pts (20t)
10 – Handre Pollard (Leicester Tigers) – 61 caps, 613 pts (6t, 83c, 131p, 4d)
9 – Jaden Hendrikse (Cell C Sharks) – 3 caps, 5 pts (1t)
8 – Jasper Wiese (Leicester Tigers) – 12 caps, 0 pts
7 – Pieter-Steph du Toit (Toyota Verblitz) – 59 caps, 25 pts (5t)
6 – Siya Kolisi (captain, Cell C Sharks) – 64 caps, 30 pts (6t)
5 – Lood de Jager (Wild Knights) – 57 caps, 25 pts (5t)
4 – Eben Etzebeth (Cell C Sharks) – 99 caps, 15 pts (3t)
3 – Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers) – 47 caps, 5pts (1t)
2 – Bongi Mbonambi (Cell C Sharks) – 49 caps, 50 pts (10t)
1 – Trevor Nyakane (Racing 92) – 55 caps, 5pts (1t)

Replacements:
16 – Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 48 caps, 55 pts (11t)
17 – Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers) – 60 caps, 5pts (1t)
18 – Vincent Koch (Wasps) 33 caps, 0 pts
19 – Franco Mostert (Honda Heat) – 52 caps, 5pts (1t)
20 – Kwagga Smith (Shizuoka Blue Revs) – 20 caps, 5 pts (1t)
21 – Elrigh Louw (Vodacom Bulls) – 1 cap, 0pts
22 – Faf de Klerk (Canon Eagles) – 37caps, 25pts (5t)
23 – Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz) – 73 caps, 60 pts (12t)
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Post by No 7&1/2 Mon 18 Jul 2022, 10:00 am

majesticimperialman wrote:I have not watched any of the gams due to not having
SKY sports. What i would like to know is, is there any person who should not play again for Wales Or do you expect every one to be in the next 6nations??

After his comments this weekend I think Andy Powell should be no where near the squad.

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Post by Oakdene Mon 18 Jul 2022, 10:16 am

majesticimperialman wrote:I have not watched any of the gams due to not having
SKY sports. What i would like to know is, is there any person who should not play again for Wales Or do you expect every one to be in the next 6nations??

I don't think anyone disgraced themselves in any way but I wouldn't necessarily have Hardy as number one starter as scrum half, he's too up & down - though I will say his kicking was pretty much spot on but his slow pondering passing was frustrating. I thought Lake would over take Elias as hooker but he wobbled badly Saturday with his lineout throwing, yes I know it's not just the hookers fault when lineouts don't work but the not straight calls are down to him. I think him & Elias will be nip & tuck over the next 12 - 18 months in terms of starting.

I don't see how Tompkins keeps starting, I know Pivac is looking to build this centre partnership with North but Tompkins (apart from the side steps) doesn't offer enough in attack for me & I'd like to see Jonny Williams given go in the Autumn.

Biggest takeaway is discipline, we gave so many needless penalties away over the series, this needs addressing badly. We looked very fit & competed with, possibly the most physical side in the world, for long periods of time. We looked out on our feet after 65 minutes on Saturday but we got a second wind around the 70 minute mark.

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Post by Oakdene Mon 18 Jul 2022, 10:17 am

No 7&1/2 wrote:
majesticimperialman wrote:I have not watched any of the gams due to not having
SKY sports. What i would like to know is, is there any person who should not play again for Wales Or do you expect every one to be in the next 6nations??

After his comments this weekend I think Andy Powell should be no where near the squad.

Have heard a couple of people in the office refer to this, what have I missed?

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Post by No 7&1/2 Mon 18 Jul 2022, 10:26 am

Some comments that haven't gone down well around Ryan Jones' diagnosis and then some comments about beating up a woman, then I saw some further ones of physically intimidating a partner from an old biography I hadn't previously seen.

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Post by Oakdene Mon 18 Jul 2022, 10:30 am

No 7&1/2 wrote:Some comments that haven't gone down well around Ryan Jones' diagnosis and then some comments about beating up a woman, then I saw some further ones of physically intimidating a partner from an old biography I hadn't previously seen.  

Thanks, will have a look online at lunch. Have seen the messages he's sent to Mrs Anscombe.

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Post by mikey_dragon Mon 18 Jul 2022, 1:26 pm

We all know there are risks associated with contact sport, but yeah Powell's tweet was insesntive, and come out at the wrong time. Andy has a way with words and according to Cuthbert a few boys don't bother with him any more over it.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Mon 18 Jul 2022, 2:44 pm

For what it's worth, I really like Nick Tompkins.

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Post by mikey_dragon Mon 18 Jul 2022, 3:23 pm

Good player, his defence still isn't good enough for international rugby though. We haven't helped him at times, trying to use him as a crashball centre... It's possible we have someone similar coming through in the U20s, who might be a better tackler.

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Post by The Oracle Mon 18 Jul 2022, 4:20 pm

I too quite like Tompkins, but is it just that we're using him in the wrong way? Or has he just not got as much space and time to do what he does at club level?
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Post by Oakdene Tue 19 Jul 2022, 8:34 am

I know it won't happen but I would like to see Williams given a couple of games in the Autumn so we can see what he can do, he started brightly in a Wales jersey but then got injured. That said Scott Williams was the best centre for the Scarlets last term.

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Post by mikey_dragon Tue 19 Jul 2022, 11:26 am

We need outside centre's. JD2 doesn't have the knees for it, it's a difficult channel to defend in. I'm not sure why him and Scott just didn't swap around? Johnny Williams has played a bit of both positions from what I understand. He's rarely got a good run of games together but when he did, he looked good. For me Williams and North seem like it could be a good midfield.

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Post by Oakdene Tue 19 Jul 2022, 11:35 am

Agreed Mikey, we've seen the best of JD2 & I don't think he will be involved internationally again unless we have the biggest of injury crisis's. In a way I am glad Williams didn't get battered & bruised so he can hopefully get a run of games for us at regional level. I am coming round more & more to North being a 13 but still not quite there.

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Post by The Oracle Tue 19 Jul 2022, 12:41 pm

If Scott Williams has another good season with Scarlets then I'd be all for him coming back into the international fold. We've got to reward form, regardless of age and previous history (to a certain extent). Cuthbert as an example, so it wouldn't be outrageous for Pivac to do the same with Scott W. However, I'm no sure they got on at Scarlets? Didn't Scott W move to Ospreys during the Pivac reign?
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Post by Oakdene Tue 19 Jul 2022, 12:44 pm

The Oracle wrote:If Scott Williams has another good season with Scarlets then I'd be all for him coming back into the international fold.  We've got to reward form, regardless of age and previous history (to a certain extent).  Cuthbert as an example, so it wouldn't be outrageous for Pivac to do the same with Scott W.  However, I'm no sure they got on at Scarlets?  Didn't Scott W move to Ospreys during the Pivac reign?

Yes he did, though that was more to do with Parkes starting before him both at PYS & for Wales I think.

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Post by The Oracle Tue 19 Jul 2022, 11:01 pm

How the hell has Hardy made it into the BBC team of the summer?!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/62220417

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Post by Oakdene Wed 20 Jul 2022, 8:35 am

The Oracle wrote:How the hell has Hardy made it into the BBC team of the summer?!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/62220417


Best of a bad bunch I'd guess, no 9 for any side really stood out & despite his other short comings I guess Hardy's kicking was on point.

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Post by mikey_dragon Wed 20 Jul 2022, 6:02 pm

Hardy making the team is just very wrong.

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