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F1 2022 season - Michael Masi sacked
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Rumours suggesting Fernando Alonso's deal with Aston Martin could be up to 4 years long. 2 years guaranteed. Third year is driver side option and fourth year is team side option.
Alonso might never retire at this rate LOL
Rumours suggesting Fernando Alonso's deal with Aston Martin could be up to 4 years long. 2 years guaranteed. Third year is driver side option and fourth year is team side option.
Alonso might never retire at this rate LOL
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I don't know anything about Logan Sergeant but it would be good to have Nyck de Vries given an opportunity to drive in F1 - he couldn't have done any better on debut for Williams when stepping in for Albon. He may end up being a better choice than Colton Herta.Jeff Navarro wrote:Logan Sergeant will join Williams if he has enough points for a super license.
Red Bull are close to finalising a deal to sign Nyck de Vries to join AlphaTauri. Deal could be announced anytime become now and Singapore.
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Sergeant is Williams’ American F2 driver. He’s a decent prospect. Might be a tough ask against someone like Alexander Albon though. TBH I’d rather see Sergeant get a chance rather than some no mark
When you see how Verstappen and Russell talk about de Vries, there must be some talent there. And de Vries also won F2
When you see how Verstappen and Russell talk about de Vries, there must be some talent there. And de Vries also won F2
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Provisional calendar has been published.
Spain goes back after Monaco
Belgium is now the last race before the break
Vegas is the penultimate race between Brazil and Abu Dhabi
Spain goes back after Monaco
Belgium is now the last race before the break
Vegas is the penultimate race between Brazil and Abu Dhabi
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Azerbaijan should been removed ASAP. They literally invaded Armenia
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Qatar is also on it and China returns maybe
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Latifi has finally gone
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Singapore race week! How I’ve missed this race.
Rain forecast for the weekend.
Rain forecast for the weekend.
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Alexander Albon has been cleared to return. Seems a tad risky considering Singapore is usually very tough on the drivers.
Nyck de Vries is on standby
Nyck de Vries is on standby
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Max Verstappen turns 25, slightly mind blowing that he’s already been for so long
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Rumors that RB and AM are over the cost cap
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Red Bull and Aston Martin are accused of missing the 2021 budget cap.GSC wrote:Rumors that RB and AM are over the cost cap
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Ferraris clear at the top of p2. Max p4 though missed most of the session
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Jeff Navarro wrote:Red Bull and Aston Martin are accused of missing the 2021 budget cap.GSC wrote:Rumors that RB and AM are over the cost cap
If the rumours are true then what happens? They have their team placing removed from this and last year's results and are given a huge fine? Hardly a deterrent.
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It's pretty unclear. A range of punishments are listed but no precedence.
My gut says they don't really want to reopen past championships, so a fine and reduced testing time for next year would be my guess
My gut says they don't really want to reopen past championships, so a fine and reduced testing time for next year would be my guess
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It’s just a financial penalty - which is pretty irrelevant for Red Bull anyway.
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Its potentially a lot of things.
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Let's be honest, it's going to be a financial penalty. No way would they do anything to alter last year's championship.
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Yeah I very much doubt it. But future testing restrictions is not insignificant
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If they have gone over the cap, it will surely have to be some sort of testing restriction. Need to show they're taking it seriously, but won't want to overturn last season's outcome at this point. Might also give others a chance to make next season more interesting as a bonus.
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LeClerc pole, Max was up by a mile but aborted his last lap
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Suggestion is Max wouldn't have had fuel to do the in lap and give a sample, which is a dq. Will start p8
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Confirmed by RB. Max did abort a flying lap before his final run
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What sort of disqualification? Dq from Q3, dq from qualifying, dq from the Sunday race?GSC wrote:Suggestion is Max wouldn't have had fuel to do the in lap and give a sample, which is a dq. Will start p8
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DQ from qualifying if you can't provide fuel sample.
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Very uncharacteristic of RB to bugger up the fuel in Max's car. My hunch is that they'd much rather clinch the championship next week on Honda's home circuit anyway.
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Yeah you start p20 if you don't give the sample
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As for the financial skulduggery, it'll just be some sort of wash. Slap on the wrist because RB will kick and scream and threaten.
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Pr4wn wrote:As for the financial skulduggery, it'll just be some sort of wash. Slap on the wrist because RB will kick and scream and threaten.
Which is always my fear with sporting regulations. If they happen to impact the major players, then they get watered down or conveniently forgotten about.
In fairness to AM, if they didn't stick to the budget cap, it clearly didn't do them a huge amount of good (they finished 7th - 50-odd points ahead of Williams, but 70-odd behind Alpine).
In contrast, the driver's title battle between RB and Merc was so close that even a minor advantage could have been all the difference.
Interesting quote from Toto Wolff:
Mercedes team principal Toto Wolff added: "There's a team in minor breach, which is more procedural, and another team that is fundamentally massively over and that is still being looked at. That's an open secret in the paddock."
Article link: Budget cap break "speculation say Red Bull but Ferrari and Mercedes call it "open secret"
Ferrari racing director Laurent Mekies said: "It's now no secret that two teams broke the 2021 budget cap regulations, one by a significant amount, the other less so."
Mekies said the matter was "very serious" and that Ferrari expected governing body the FIA to "manage the situation in exemplary fashion".
The FIA told the teams this week that it would issue certificates of compliance with the 2021 financial regulations - or not - on 5 October.
Red Bull team boss Christian Horner told BBC Sport it was "purely speculation" that his team had exceeded the limit. He added to Sky that he was "not aware" of any breaches.
Wolff added to BBC Sport: "The cost cap is probably the most important evolution of regulations to keep a level playing field to allow teams that haven't got the full budget to catch up, and to put a ceiling on the spending of the top teams.
"It is of huge importance for a demonstration that these regulations are policed and I have no reason to believe otherwise.
"The FIA, particularly Mohammed [Ben Sulayem, the president], has shown a pretty robust stance on enforcing all kinds of regulations. So if we are talking now about something big, he will show the same integrity and leadership that he has done before."
Mekies said Ferrari expected "complete transparency and maximum penalties" from the FIA to "ensure we are all racing within the same rules, because their impact on car performance is huge".
With regard to penalties, there are worrying signs that Red Bull have been bending the FIA's ear...presumably in an effort to get any penalty reduced:
The cost-cap regulations define an overspend of less than 5% as "minor" and more than that as "material".
Sanctions for a minor breach can include a deduction of points for the championship in which the breach took place, a suspension from a limited number of events, limitations on research and development and a reduction of the cost cap for the team in question.
For a material breach, the possibility of banning a team or driver from an entire championship is included.
Teams regard it as an open secret that there has been both a major and a minor breach. At least one team has been given that information direct from the FIA.
And there is concern that the FIA will try to reduce the offence to a minor one to limit the damage to the championship.
Red Bull and the FIA are known to have been in conversation on the matter of compliance with the budget cap for some time.
Banning Red Bull from this or next season's championship (which I suspect some people would be quite happy with - as well as being a hell of a deterrent & sending a message to other teams) simply won't happen, as they are "too important" to the sport.
But it seems Christian has been having quiet words in Mohammed Ben Sulayem's ear in an effort to limit any financial or other penalties that might be imposed.
Which makes this article all the more incredible...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/63101583
If its an "open secret" that teams have breached the budget cap - why is it wrong to talk about it. If he is so confident his team haven't done anything wrong, why has he been speaking to the FIA boss specifically about budget cap compliance?
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Anyway, on to today.
Should be an interesting duel between Leclerc and Perez at the start. Be interesting to see what Mercedes' race pace is like - will Lewis be able to keep up with them? Also will Russell be able to make up for his awful quali?
Lando did brilliantly to drag his McLaren up to 6th - but again I don't see him staying there. Will be keeping an eye on Alonso in 5th - can he keep his car in the top 6?
Fully expecting Max to storm through the field again and wrap up title No.2 (assuming the team don't mess up his fuel load again, botch a pit stop etc.).
Should be an interesting duel between Leclerc and Perez at the start. Be interesting to see what Mercedes' race pace is like - will Lewis be able to keep up with them? Also will Russell be able to make up for his awful quali?
Lando did brilliantly to drag his McLaren up to 6th - but again I don't see him staying there. Will be keeping an eye on Alonso in 5th - can he keep his car in the top 6?
Fully expecting Max to storm through the field again and wrap up title No.2 (assuming the team don't mess up his fuel load again, botch a pit stop etc.).
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When Mercedes talk about Red Bull you can pretty much disregard it.
We only need to look at George Russell’s brainless yapping that Red Bull’s floor was ‘100% against the rules’
Mercedes are just clutching at straws to mask their ineptitude.
We only need to look at George Russell’s brainless yapping that Red Bull’s floor was ‘100% against the rules’
Mercedes are just clutching at straws to mask their ineptitude.
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See what comes out on Wednesday. Beyond that it's the usual political Poopie. RB will deny it, Mercedes and Ferrari will say it's far bigger than designing a crap car or gross incompetence
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Russell takes a new PU and starts from the pitlane
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Jeff Navarro wrote:When Mercedes talk about Red Bull you can pretty much disregard it.
We only need to look at George Russell’s brainless yapping that Red Bull’s floor was ‘100% against the rules’
Mercedes are just clutching at straws to mask their ineptitude.
Its not just Mercedes though...your beloved Ferrari are also demanding a suitable resolution to this. The FIA themselves have confirmed that 2 teams breached the cost cap regs...one minor and one serious. I'd put money on RB being the "material" offender.
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Russell takes a new PU and starts from the pitlane
Urgh. Singapore's hardly an ideal track to be starting at the back. Could struggle to finish in the points.
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Ferrari are trying to deflect from the ineptitude that cost LeClerc a championship...dyrewolfe wrote:Jeff Navarro wrote:When Mercedes talk about Red Bull you can pretty much disregard it.
We only need to look at George Russell’s brainless yapping that Red Bull’s floor was ‘100% against the rules’
Mercedes are just clutching at straws to mask their ineptitude.
Its not just Mercedes though...your beloved Ferrari are also demanding a suitable resolution to this. The FIA themselves have confirmed that 2 teams breached the cost cap regs...one minor and one serious. I'd put money on RB being the "material" offender.GSC wrote:
Russell takes a new PU and starts from the pitlane
Urgh. Singapore's hardly an ideal track to be starting at the back. Could struggle to finish in the points.
And this supposed breach is in regard to 2021, so it's ultimately irrelevant to Ferrari...
And the point still reminds these manufactures are still salty they lose to Red Bull - a tin drink company.
And as for 2021, Red Bull exceeding the cost cap was because Hamilton wrecked Verstappen's RB16B at Silverstone, and Bottas wrecked both RB16Bs at Hungary.
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Hammering it down with worse rain coming, don't expect this to start on time
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Depends what they were spending on. If it meant they didn't have to compromise this year's design while fighting for the championship last year...Jeff Navarro wrote:And this supposed breach is in regard to 2021, so it's ultimately irrelevant to Ferrari...
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Start delayed, settle in because it might be a while
Rain doesn't clear quickly here because of humidity
Rain doesn't clear quickly here because of humidity
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Race starts at 2.05PM uk time.
Same time as the Manchester derby…
Same time as the Manchester derby…
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GSC wrote:Start delayed, settle in because it might be a while
Rain doesn't clear quickly here because of humidity
At least a wet/dry race could make things more interesting.
I'd bet there will be at least 1 full SC, if not a couple.
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Still a lot of standing water
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Perez off the line and into P1, Sainz jumps Hamilton into p3
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Max losing out big time on the first lap
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Max had to cut turn 1 to avoid a major pile up. Sainz and Lewis came together but not much more than a racing incident
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Don't think they're gonna get to dry tyres here
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First of many SCs. Helps Max and the chasing pack
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