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Post by Guest Wed 03 Aug 2022, 9:25 am

First topic message reminder :

Rumours suggesting Fernando Alonso's deal with Aston Martin could be up to 4 years long. 2 years guaranteed. Third year is driver side option and fourth year is team side option.
Alonso might never retire at this rate LOL


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Post by Guest Wed 05 Oct 2022, 12:44 pm

Verstappen’s busted RB16B from Silverstone had no salvageable parts. So they basically had to rebuild an entire new car. Which Bottas proceeded to smash up in the next race.

Supposedly the Silverstone incident cost Red Bull $2m - that’s the amount they claim. No real way to verify though.

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Post by Lowlandbrit Wed 05 Oct 2022, 1:19 pm

dummy_half wrote:If that's true, then a complete storm in a tea cup. Surprising that this couldn't be hidden by a few accounting tricks.
Presumably they (and the other teams) had plenty of 'interesting' ideas about how things should be accounted for, and which ones were deemed acceptable determined where they land in the range between the 'massively over' rival speculation and 'actually under' RB claims.

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Post by GSC Wed 05 Oct 2022, 1:53 pm

Theyre all as bad as each other honestly. I cant be bothered with it
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Post by GSC Wed 05 Oct 2022, 4:07 pm

No outcome today, FIA pushed it to Monday
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Post by GSC Wed 05 Oct 2022, 5:12 pm

For the skeptics, I suspect there is not a great chance the FIA is about to take meaningful action the day after Max could win his second wdc
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Post by Guest Thu 06 Oct 2022, 9:31 am

Seems like Red Bull wants to take Ferrari and Mercedes to court…

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Post by Guest Thu 06 Oct 2022, 9:32 am

Hamilton hinting at another 2 year deal that would take him to the end of 2025.

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Post by GSC Thu 06 Oct 2022, 12:00 pm

Apparently the initial breach was up to 10m. The gist seems to be that because engine development was not frozen, RB were permitted to do testing in that area which wasnt subject to the cost cap.

With that removed the breach is about 120k.
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Post by GSC Fri 07 Oct 2022, 7:33 am

As close to a write off day as you'll get. Track is soaked and forecast is dry for quali and race
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Post by Guest Fri 07 Oct 2022, 9:03 am

GSC wrote:Apparently the initial breach was up to 10m. The gist seems to be that because engine development was not frozen, RB were permitted to do testing in that area which wasnt subject to the cost cap.

With that removed the breach is about 120k.
The cost of minor bodywork repairs

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Post by Guest Fri 07 Oct 2022, 9:04 am

Alonso was fastest in FP1
Russell fastest in FP2

Meaningless, as GSC mentioned, it was like a swimming pool on the track.

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Post by Guest Fri 07 Oct 2022, 6:12 pm

Pierre Gasly to Alpine is done. Announcement any time now.

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Post by Guest Sat 08 Oct 2022, 1:16 am

Gasly joins Renault on a multiple year deal
de Vries joins AlphaTauri

Both confirmed now.

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Post by GSC Sat 08 Oct 2022, 7:26 am

Wonder if that's an olive branch from RB to Mercedes. De Vries isn't a typical AT target
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Post by GSC Sat 08 Oct 2022, 7:57 am

Max probably taking a grid drop for forcing Norris off track
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Post by GSC Sat 08 Oct 2022, 8:02 am

Meanwhile his first lap in Q3 is enough for pole. But doubt he keeps it

Credible P9 for Vettel

Mercedes in a fight with Alpine today
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Post by Guest Sat 08 Oct 2022, 8:02 am

Verstappen pole
LeClerc
Sainz
Perez

Pretty close been the top 4

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Post by GSC Sat 08 Oct 2022, 9:33 am

Just a reprimand for Verstappen, close but think he's a bit fortunate there
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Post by Guest Sat 08 Oct 2022, 10:50 am

Ricciardo confirms no seat for 2023. At this point he’s literally hoping Mercedes remain rubbish in 2023 and Hamilton retires.

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Post by Guest Sat 08 Oct 2022, 11:40 am

GSC wrote:Wonder if that's an olive branch from RB to Mercedes. De Vries isn't a typical AT target
Max played a large part in getting de Vries the seat.

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Post by Lowlandbrit Sat 08 Oct 2022, 4:35 pm

Still don't get how de Vries and AT ended up at the top of each other's lists, but it probably makes slighly more sense for NdV.
Ricciardo's deluding himself if he thinks he's a contender to take over from Hamilton, unless they want a stopgap designated nr. 2. Great deal for the team though, who'd have an experienced and popular stand-in if needed.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 09 Oct 2022, 7:24 am

This sport is so ridiculously dumb
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Post by GSC Sun 09 Oct 2022, 8:15 am

I think having a crane on track during the japanese GP in heavy wet conditions speaks for itself

Don't understand why there are full wet tyres if teams have to be forced to fit them
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Post by GSC Sun 09 Oct 2022, 8:16 am

Anyhow there won't be 75% distance so no title today
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Post by GSC Sun 09 Oct 2022, 8:31 am

And immediately everyone junks the wets for inters
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Post by GSC Sun 09 Oct 2022, 8:43 am

Max in a class of his own right now, dropping Charles like he's a backmarker
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Post by GSC Sun 09 Oct 2022, 8:46 am

Might get a Charles Checo scrap for 2nd before the end
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Post by GSC Sun 09 Oct 2022, 9:07 am

Max wins a 27 lap race by 25 seconds. Complete domination. title will be a formality on the US if he finishes

Ocon holding back Lewis, Merc just too draggy to punch a hole without drs. Vettel and Latifi made good use of strategy to take p6 and p9
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Post by GSC Sun 09 Oct 2022, 9:09 am

LeClerc probably making a trip to the stewards for his last corner defense but I'm not making predictions again
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Post by Guest Sun 09 Oct 2022, 9:11 am

Verstappen wins his 32nd Grand Prix, equals Fernando Alonso’s career tally.
Verstappen is many levels above the rest. Ominous.

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Post by GSC Sun 09 Oct 2022, 9:13 am

5 seconds for blocking Perez takes p2.

RB could've pitted for FL and won the title after all
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Post by Guest Sun 09 Oct 2022, 9:14 am

Max is champion

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Post by Guest Sun 09 Oct 2022, 9:15 am

Verstappen joins the legends whom have with their first two titles back to back

Alberto Ascari: 1952-1953
Jack Brabham: 1959-1960
Alain Prost: 1985-1986
Michael Schumacher: 1994-1995
Mika Hakkinen: 1998-1999
Fernando Alonso: 2005-2006
Sebastian Vettel: 2010-2013

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Post by GSC Sun 09 Oct 2022, 9:16 am

He's not, he needed 8 points and he only got 7
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Post by GSC Sun 09 Oct 2022, 9:17 am

Someone get the calculator out 🤣
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Post by GSC Sun 09 Oct 2022, 9:18 am

112 points remaining, gap is 111.

Bit embarrassing
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Post by Guest Sun 09 Oct 2022, 9:19 am

Full points
Verstappen is champion

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Post by GSC Sun 09 Oct 2022, 9:23 am

So they only award reduced points if the race doesnt finish on the road.

Dumb rule. Not that it matters
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Post by GSC Sun 09 Oct 2022, 9:26 am

Another banner day for the FIA
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Post by Guest Sun 09 Oct 2022, 9:27 am

Full points because of the early red flag. Not sure how they make up these rules.

But either way at 25 years and 9 days - second youngest double champion. Must be a Red Bull thing...

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Post by GSC Sun 09 Oct 2022, 9:29 am

So essentially they could come out with 5 minutes to go, run 2 laps behind the SC and award full points
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Post by Guest Sun 09 Oct 2022, 9:42 am

Red flag + half distance means full points - I’m not sure how these rules are worded.

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Post by GSC Sun 09 Oct 2022, 9:58 am

It's whether it ends on track. If it was red flagged 5 minutes before the end it would be reduced points

Binotto talking about how Charles didn't gain time cutting the chicane, think it was probably more moving over on Checo before he went around
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Post by GSC Sun 09 Oct 2022, 10:12 am

In any case it is mildly redundant. Even under reduced points Charles would have to win all 4 races, take fastest lap in each and win the sprint while Max failed to score in any race.
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Post by Guest Sun 09 Oct 2022, 10:14 am

Binotto facing the sack…it’s in the Italian press.
And you can’t appeal on track penalty anyway.
It’s time to be humble Mattia, not stupid.

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Post by GSC Sun 09 Oct 2022, 10:16 am

Hopefully next year Ferrari or Merc can close down the gap RB have opened since midseason. But it is a large one
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Post by Guest Sun 09 Oct 2022, 10:28 am

Red Bull are so far ahead, especially in Verstappen’s hands. I would consider it somewhat a miracle if Verstappen didn’t win his third championship in 2023…

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Post by GSC Sun 09 Oct 2022, 10:37 am

Should also be pointed out F1 wants to move the race to early season rather than monsoon season but the race organisers have refused
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Post by GSC Sun 09 Oct 2022, 10:44 am

Max is now 1 win behind Michael and Sebs record of 13 in a single season, with 4 races left and RB favoured in all

He's won 23 of the last 39 gps.
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Post by Guest Sun 09 Oct 2022, 10:58 am

GSC wrote:Max is now 1 win behind Michael and Sebs record of 13 in a single season, with 4 races left and RB favoured in all

He's won 23 of the last 39 gps.
Yeah he’s a little decent is the Dutchman...

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