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Post by Kenny on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 1:06 pm

According to most newspapers Charlie Adam will be leaving Blackpool for either Liverpool or Aston Villa this week .

My question is how much can Blackpool realistically think they can get for him given he only has under a year left on his contract ? in january both Liverpool and Spurs offered in the region of £6 million to which Ian holloway said he was worth £45 million to Blackpool to aide them in staying up .

Now they are in the championship and Adam has stated he wants to leave to play in the Premiership what will the price be that sees him leave king


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Post by legendkillar on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 1:22 pm

Question is what would Liverpool gain in sigining him? Tottenham who were interested in Januray haven't declared their interest and seems surprising that Kenny would want him, considering it is pace they need on the wings is what they need.

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Post by JDandfries on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 1:31 pm

I think, now his team have been relegated, and now he has played a full season, a fee somewhere in the region of £5m as a maximum, is about right, of course alot depends on how much of a cut Holloway gets (still can't believe that is legal mind!).

Dont forget this guy cost Blackpool £500,000 less than 24 months ago and is still unproven at the highest level.

That said, I don't think he is good enough for Liverpool, and will probably end up at somewhere, like Newcastle, Sunderland or Villa

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Post by Kenny on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 1:36 pm

I agree we need wingers and a new center half and possible even another striker . Having just signed Henderson who plays center midfield i am a little shocked we are going back for Adam but it does seem that Kenny wants him .

I do like him as a player , he isnt the quickest but seems to have what they used to call a football brain , i can see him fitting in with the passing football we ended up playing last season .

so what price ? imo £5 million would be max
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Post by legendkillar on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 1:38 pm

I think £4M is a stretch to be honest. I thought £20M for Henderson was way over-priced!

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Post by JDandfries on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 1:40 pm

He certainly isn't a wide left, and henderson will probs be wide right, so who would he replace?

Just don't think he is good enough for Liverpool

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Post by Fernando on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 2:01 pm

charlie adam is twice the player henderson is at the moment but age comes into it so id say about 8-10m for adam

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Post by JDandfries on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 2:02 pm

Twice the player????

Really? based on what??

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Post by sodhat on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 2:03 pm

I recall a sum of £9m being bandied around during the January window, and I would say it will be perhaps £1-2 million less than that, but thereabouts still.

Price will probably stay up purely because there are more than one club interested and a bidding war may ensue.

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Post by legendkillar on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 2:04 pm

If you base last season's performances, Adam had more stand out performances than Henderson and that was in a struggling team. I just can't see him fitting into Liverpool's team.

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Post by Fernando on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 2:07 pm

JDandfries wrote:Twice the player????

Really? based on what??

last season

henderson did f/a for sunderland scored 3 goals and set up 5 all season and charlie adam basically ran the show for blackpool, scored 13 and set up 9


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Post by JDandfries on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 2:15 pm

Easy to look good in a team where the rest of the players are garbage!

Alot of people, incuding you it seems, are overrated Adam based on 20 or so good games (he was largly annonymous for January - March).

i would say he is just another Neil Redfearn, and is nowhere near good enough for a top 6 team!

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Post by Kay Fabe on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 2:17 pm

I wouldn't say he is unproven at the highest level, he was nominated for Player Of the Year this season and scored goals and won MOMs in the Champions League, to say he is unproven is so wrong

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Post by JDandfries on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 2:19 pm

Scott Parker WON player of the year, doesn't mean he is any good!

Adam may have looked good in a poor team (as did Scott Parker) but where would he fit in in the Liverpool team? or any top 6 team for that matter?

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Post by Fernando on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 2:22 pm

right you name me central midfielder that together has scored more goals and assists put together last season


also he'd play where lucas does

kuyt - adam - gerrard - meireles ( hes played lw before for liverpool and portugal)

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Post by Kay Fabe on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 2:26 pm

Alex Ferguson seems to think he'd be a good buy for the quality of his delivery alone, Parker won the writers PotY which isn't a patch oe the Players Player, what did Parker do that journalists thought was better than Adam?

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Post by JDandfries on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 2:29 pm

I dont rate Parker, never have, and I think his England performance last wek showed how good he really is.


Fernando, Lucas was probably Liverpool's best player last season, as a holding midfielder, how is Adam a direct replacement and why on earth would Merieles be moved out wide left?

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Post by Fernando on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 2:35 pm

1) we'll all presuming meireles is at the club next season cos he's been linked with a move away already , also he's played left wing for liverpool and portugal before.

2) we're also presuming that steven gerrard is going to be fit all season cos he won't be , he's turned injury prone recently. so he might play alongside lucas

3) who says they won't drop andy carroll and play gerrard behind suarez

4) they might just use adam as a bench player?



it's all swings and roundabouts

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Post by Kay Fabe on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 2:39 pm

Remember, Kenny Dalglish knows this boy inside out, if he thinks the boy can do a job and the lad has proven he can against some of the EPL's better teams, then his judgement should be trusted IMO

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Post by sodhat on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 2:48 pm

But then where does Henderson fit in the team listed above...?

£20m should probably get you included in the first team...

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Post by JDandfries on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 3:01 pm

Liverpool need to stop shelling out on reserves, they need an almost new back 4, and until they sign a few defender who will improve the team, then more midfielders seems a misplaced priority to me!

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Post by legendkillar on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 3:07 pm

I think another striker is also what they need. Could they invest the money that is being banded about for Adam towards a striker perhaps?

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Post by Fernando on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 3:10 pm

they need a lb and a pair of wingers and jermaine defoe?

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Post by JDandfries on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 3:19 pm

I think they also need two centre backs, Skrtel and Agger seem injury prone and aswell as in my opinion not being any good, Defoe is a good call, but would he play second fiddle to Carrol and Suarez?

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Post by legendkillar on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 3:22 pm

Defoe would be an amazing coup. Him and Carroll up top and Suarez maybe on one of the wings?

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Post by Kenny on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 3:42 pm

Defoe would be a fantastic buy ive thought for years when he was being sold and bought by Harry that we should of bought him long ago .

We could play 3 up front Defoe Carroll Saurez .

Back to Adam i do think he could play our type of football , he may not start many games but we need to improve squad depth.
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Post by Ent on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 3:50 pm

£10million on ability I'd say.

Transfers for midlevel players have hit a huge boom in the last 2 or so years, getting any player for under £10million will be difficult.

A few clubs seem interested and he represents Blackpools best chance of getting back into the lucrative PL.

Given that Liverpool have been purchasing players for 2-3 times their real value who knows what price he will move for.

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Post by Crimey on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 5:12 pm

I think he's worth around the £5-8 million mark. I don't think we need him though.

Fernando, I very much doubt Meireles will leave, he was one of our top players last year and was in the first team for a long time. Lucas was also one of our best players and has really matured in the holding midfielder role, his passing and tacklin is superb and he's breaking into the Brazil first XI as well! Who says we won't drop Andy Carroll and play Gerrard behind Suarez? £35 million does! As well as the fact Suarez isn't an out an out striker. I don't think he'd pushed to the right wing at all, I can see us rotating quite a lot next year, keeping our team fresh and unpredictable.

I'd be dissapointed if we signed Adam, although I'd have rather had him than Henderson, it would be a waste to sign them both. I think our starting attack next season, assuming we sign no more players would be:

--------------------------Lucas

-----------------Meireles-------Henderson


Gerrard-------------------------------------------Suarez

-----------------------Carroll

But I expect us to make signings and I don't think anybody will be a definate starter, which is a good mentality to have IMO.

I also disagree that we need a whole new back four, our defence has been one of the strongest defences year after year after year, it had a dip with Hodgson, but since Dalglish, and more importantly Steve Clarke came into the fold our defence has been at it's usual high level. Although I would like a new left back, I don't think it's even that crucial with Johnson, Aurelio and Robinson all able to play there. Srktel is a good defender, he had a huge loss of confidence but seems to have regained it, Agger is a very good defender, he has had his fair share of injury problems; but so have a lot of players. Carragher is still good enough, Kelly is a good defender.

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Post by Kay Fabe on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 5:52 pm

I'd say Suarez is an out and out striker, his goal tally with Ajax shows this, but he is a great link up man too, I think when Gerrard and others strengthen the midfield he'll play higher up the park

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Post by Crimey on Tue 14 Jun 2011, 7:25 pm

Possibly, I can't say I watched much of him at Ajax, but if you think of Messi and Ronaldo, neither are out and out strikers but have a phenomenal scoring record. I understand they're amazing players, but it's not impossible for him to be more of a SS or wider man and score a lot of goals.

Certainly for us he didn't play right up top, that seemed to be Carroll or Kuyt's position and then Suarez just behind him, on either wing with Maxi or Kuyt.

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Post by ADMIN on Wed 15 Jun 2011, 2:29 pm

Charlie Adam's transfer to Liverpool has hit an impasse: Blackpool are demanding £10m but Dalglish is refusing to pay a penny less than £22m

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Post by Crimey on Wed 15 Jun 2011, 2:50 pm

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Post by AberdeenSteve on Wed 15 Jun 2011, 2:56 pm

Maxi Rodriguez has been linked with a move away from Anfield.

Anything would be a decent price for a club like Blackpool seeing as they only signed the lad for 500k!

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Post by Crimey on Wed 15 Jun 2011, 2:58 pm

Yeah, I think it was coming for Maxi, he was a bit part player for Liverpool under Dalglish until right at the end of the season, where he scored two hattricks, at least he will go out on a good note rather than after all his average performances before then.

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Post by braveheart101 on Wed 15 Jun 2011, 3:02 pm

KINGKENNY7HEAVEN wrote:According to most newspapers Charlie Adam will be leaving Blackpool for either Liverpool or Aston Villa this week .

My question is how much can Blackpool realistically think they can get for him given he only has under a year left on his contract ? in january both Liverpool and Spurs offered in the region of £6 million to which Ian holloway said he was worth £45 million to Blackpool to aide them in staying up .

Now they are in the championship and Adam has stated he wants to leave to play in the Premiership what will the price be that sees him leave king
Didn't Liverpool up their offer in January to about 10-12 million?
Do Liverpool really need another midfielder when you they already have Gerrard, Meireles, Lucas, Maxi, Henderson, Spearing, Shelvey, Poulson, Aquilani and Cole. Granted Maxi wants to return to Argentina and Poulson, Aquilani and Cole will probably all leave but they will still have 6 midfielders so I cant see where Adam will fit in. Wouldn't Liverpool be better looking for out and out wingers rather than central midfielders.

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune on Wed 15 Jun 2011, 3:06 pm

Hero wrote:Charlie Adam's transfer to Liverpool has hit an impasse: Blackpool are demanding £10m but Dalglish is refusing to pay a penny less than £22m

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Post by Crimey on Wed 15 Jun 2011, 3:12 pm

braveheart101 wrote:
KINGKENNY7HEAVEN wrote:According to most newspapers Charlie Adam will be leaving Blackpool for either Liverpool or Aston Villa this week .

My question is how much can Blackpool realistically think they can get for him given he only has under a year left on his contract ? in january both Liverpool and Spurs offered in the region of £6 million to which Ian holloway said he was worth £45 million to Blackpool to aide them in staying up .

Now they are in the championship and Adam has stated he wants to leave to play in the Premiership what will the price be that sees him leave king
Didn't Liverpool up their offer in January to about 10-12 million?
Do Liverpool really need another midfielder when you they already have Gerrard, Meireles, Lucas, Maxi, Henderson, Spearing, Shelvey, Poulson, Aquilani and Cole. Granted Maxi wants to return to Argentina and Poulson, Aquilani and Cole will probably all leave but they will still have 6 midfielders so I cant see where Adam will fit in. Wouldn't Liverpool be better looking for out and out wingers rather than central midfielders.

Definetly. I didn't think we needed another CM BEFORE we signed Henderson, never mind afterwards!

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Post by Kay Fabe on Wed 15 Jun 2011, 3:17 pm

I think when the final figure hits it will be around £8m although I don't expect the initial fee to be over £6m

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Post by Kenny on Wed 15 Jun 2011, 10:43 pm

Is Charlie Adam any better then Kevin Nolan ? and it looks like hes going to West Ham for about £1.5 million .
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Post by Crimey on Thu 16 Jun 2011, 6:21 am

KINGKENNY7HEAVEN wrote:Is Charlie Adam any better then Kevin Nolan ? and it looks like hes going to West Ham for about £1.5 million .

Yes he is any better than Kevin Nolan, a hell of a lot younger as well!

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Post by Kenny on Thu 16 Jun 2011, 12:11 pm

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KINGKENNY7HEAVEN wrote:Is Charlie Adam any better then Kevin Nolan ? and it looks like hes going to West Ham for about £1.5 million .

Yes he is any better than Kevin Nolan, a hell of a lot younger as well!

Yes hes 2 years younger then Nolan and dont get me wrong like ive said i like him as a player and can see him at Liverpool but Nolan has been a consistant performer in the premiership and hes going for £1.5 mill , Spurs have bid £ 4 mill for Parker according to this mornings papers and Blackpool want £10 mill for Adam imo hes not 2.5 times player Parker is or 7 times the player Nolan is Blackpool should be more realistic .
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Post by Guest on Thu 16 Jun 2011, 12:13 pm

Nolan went for £5m, not £1.5m. Think Adam is probably worth the same.

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Post by Guest on Thu 16 Jun 2011, 12:24 pm

Man Utd said to be looking at Adam now.

Please Fergie.. No!

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Post by Kenny on Thu 16 Jun 2011, 12:37 pm

OleH wrote:Man Utd said to be looking at Adam now.

Please Fergie.. No!

Yeh just read that £12 million !! cant be right ?
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Post by HitmanOwl on Thu 16 Jun 2011, 12:43 pm

Only reason why we are looking at Adam is because he got a brilliant left peg,it will would give us much needed balance in the middle! I would say 9mil tops.

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Post by User Name on Thu 16 Jun 2011, 12:54 pm

Hope its a big price tag as Rangers get 15% of it.

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Post by Guest on Thu 16 Jun 2011, 3:28 pm

Probably why Blackpool want alot if some gets given away. £6m as an overall price so Blackpool get £5m would probably be a fair price. But he's British so it's bound to be at least a few million more.

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Post by braveheart101 on Thu 16 Jun 2011, 3:32 pm

User Name wrote:Hope its a big price tag as Rangers get 15% of it.
Doesn't Ian Holloway get a cut of his transfer fee as well as Rangers

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Post by Crimey on Thu 16 Jun 2011, 3:34 pm

I never knew Kevin Nolan was only 28! I thought he was much older than that.

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