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50 up for Mo at an absolutely vital moment.
A fortuitous way to get there with Cummins not picking it up. It frankly looked like he wasn't moving well chasing back for it either.
Starc back on which I think slows how key a period the Aussies know this is. He's looked their best bowler today.
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Feels like a dangerous approach to just set up shop, Khawaja, Marnus and Smith all good enough but the rest probably better off playing their natural gamealfie wrote:Will indeed be interesting to see what approach Australia take when batting again : suspect depends a lot on warner as he's the one in the top four really inclined to be positive from the off. If he comes out early , could be a bit of stonewalling for a while.
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England have wasted a lot of time for little reward.
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Duty281 wrote:Forecast from the Met Office has actually got worse for Sunday since I last looked at it. 60% chance of precipitation for 10:00, 40% for the rest of the day (BBC at 70%).
Now 80% for most of Sunday, so fair to say it looks like a wet weekend.
England need to declare now and try to bowl Australia out in 60 overs.
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Anderson coming out to bat.
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Saying that, I'd have declared just after lunch.
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Suggest Bairstow better hitting it to the boundary or out at this point
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Bairstow taking a bye against Carey
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Two Bazballers born in the wrong eraDuty281 wrote:VTR wrote:That is surprising, I'd have been convinced without looking it up that they made 500 when Hussain and Thorpe had that huge partnership at Edgaston in 1997. Even Mark Ealham whacked a few I seem to remember!
That is indeed the closest to 500 in that time frame (or second closest now), with 478/9 declared. Ealham and Devon Malcolm could have got England to 500 without that declaration!
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His hundred you mean?eirebilly_01 wrote:This is really silly, it all looks like he wants Bairstow to get his 50 before declaring.
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VTR wrote:His hundred you mean?eirebilly_01 wrote:This is really silly, it all looks like he wants Bairstow to get his 50 before declaring.
Looks like it and he is flying in fairness.
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Runs well out of the equation now. England can set whatever fields they like.
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Last nail in the coffin
Meltdown
to mind
To be honest when I look back I think it was that inning of 160 from Stokes in T2 that was the start of Meltdown of Aussie confidence.
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Good innings from Bairstow, but Australia are finished in terms of bowling. Lyon's loss was monumental. Genuinely not sure what they're going to do for the 5th test.
Almost certainly a draw from here. England had one chance of victory, a very outside one admittedly, but they needed to declare overnight and try to spark a collapse, then chase down the rest tonight, possibly with the aid of the extra 30 minutes. Instead they've given themselves about 45 overs to bowl Australia out, and if they can't manage that then they're praying for a dramatic change in what's forecast on the weather front.
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Agree GSC - going to need some time on Sunday to win this, and forecast for that day has changed like 50 times already the last 24 hours. Who knows what it’ll do
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Runs were coming so fast that those 30 extra runs cost not more than 15 min time and ended up creating a psychological dent.
Aus has to regroup and show fight...and the only way of doing that is to bat positively go at 3.5RPO and aim to bat 100 overs
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If they are going to bowl Australia out for 150 , plenty of time to do so still . Unlikely though.
If Australia make 300 , declaring at lunch wouldn't help at all ...either way they'd need Sunday play.
Poor old Stokes : when he declares "early" he gets criticized left right and centre . Now he's too late ? Give me a break
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5 down tonight gives us a chance if we get a couple of hours from here.
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VTR wrote:Yes, let's see what happens first before saying this was the wrong decision. As Olly says, that forecast for Sunday is chopping and changing all the time. This could be the right call with the side benefits ahead of the fifth Test of Bairstow back into form and the Aussie attack even more broken and demoralised
No, let's say it was the wrong decision now - it's what Baz606 is all about!
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Reckon that is a pretty fair use of resources . Hardly anything to do with individual milestones - just scoring at seven plus per over , eh ?
Obviously going to be a tough job to bowl Australia out on this : but that was just as true had they declared at lunch or half an hour beforehand. Hard to imagine a scenario in which an early declaration could have given a better chance of winning this than they have now. Think it has been clear since day one that if the last two days are totally lost there is virtually no chance of a result. Nothing has changed...
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