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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 08 Sep 2023, 7:45 pm

First topic message reminder :

I couldn't see a topic to discuss general WC stuff and non home nations games.......

Now we do...

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Post by BigGee Sun 17 Sep 2023, 2:19 pm

A complete mismatch this one unfortunately

I think they will score 100 inless they ease off

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Post by Lowlandbrit Sun 17 Sep 2023, 2:26 pm

The kit matchup is nice, but that's about all it has going for it.

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Post by BigGee Sun 17 Sep 2023, 2:28 pm

The rain might spare Romania from shipping a century

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Post by Heaf Sun 17 Sep 2023, 2:46 pm

Wasn't that a shoulder direct to head?

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Post by BigGee Sun 17 Sep 2023, 2:46 pm

Jean Kleyn a bit fortunate there for that just to be a penalty

A pretty high shoulder to my mind, seen cards givdn for less

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Post by Heaf Sun 17 Sep 2023, 2:47 pm

Seems SA immune to cards for head shots

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Post by BigGee Sun 17 Sep 2023, 2:50 pm

Heaf wrote:Seems SA immune to cards for head shots

Twice lucky now, but these things do have a habit of evening out!

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Post by Heaf Sun 17 Sep 2023, 2:51 pm

So I hear - but never see ...

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sun 17 Sep 2023, 3:09 pm

Looking at Romania and Namibia we definitely aren't ready for a 24 team world cup.

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Post by Galted Sun 17 Sep 2023, 3:16 pm

Heaf wrote:So I hear - but never see ...

It is evening out if the neverending onslaught of Saffa complaints on various forums since the Bismarck du Plessis sending off are anything to go by.

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Post by Morgan75 Sun 17 Sep 2023, 3:20 pm

I thought if you award a penalty try you have to yellow card the guilty party. Romania still have 15 players on the pitch (not that it’s helping much)

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Post by Morgan75 Sun 17 Sep 2023, 3:25 pm

SA just butchered a certain try. Moonie just needed to pass rather than keep it for himself

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Post by BigGee Sun 17 Sep 2023, 3:28 pm

Morgan75 wrote:SA just butchered a certain try. Moonie just needed to pass rather than keep it for himself

Mistakes like that may well stop him being picked for the bigger games, especially with Williams showing up so well on the wing this game.

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Post by BigGee Sun 17 Sep 2023, 3:32 pm

Faf looks pretty comfortable at FH it has to be said.

The versatility of the SH back line is something to behold!

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Post by doctor_grey Sun 17 Sep 2023, 3:36 pm

Wow, I took the Springboks +70 points in Superbru and I might have the point spread too low! Time to start kicking possession back and play some D or the scoreline won't reflect well on anyone....

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Post by Duty281 Sun 17 Sep 2023, 3:43 pm

Was surprised to learn South Africa have never scored 100 points in a RWC game. NZ have done it three times, England twice, and Australia the once (but the biggest of the six with 142 points over Namibia in 2003).

The draw's been really harsh on Romania. If Spain hadn't got points deducted during qualification, then Spain would be playing now and Romania would be where Portugal are (in terms of grouping, not geography).

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Post by Galted Sun 17 Sep 2023, 3:45 pm

The look Rupanu gave le Roux after he'd scored was priceless.

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Post by doctor_grey Sun 17 Sep 2023, 4:46 pm

Duty281 wrote:Was surprised to learn South Africa have never scored 100 points in a RWC game. NZ have done it three times, England twice, and Australia the once (but the biggest of the six with 142 points over Namibia in 2003).

The draw's been really harsh on Romania. If Spain hadn't got points deducted during qualification, then Spain would be playing now and Romania would be where Portugal are (in terms of grouping, not geography).
I think scoring 100 points on someone is a sign of disrespect and simply shouldn't happen. Just sit back and play D for a while. Clearly if a team is behind by 70 points they really shouldn't be out there. But still show some respect to the men and women who know they will be getting blown up for 80 minutes. The values of Rugby?

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Post by Duty281 Sun 17 Sep 2023, 4:50 pm

Two high tackles in two minutes from Fiji, they need to watch that. 3-0 Australia.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 17 Sep 2023, 4:51 pm

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Duty281 wrote:Was surprised to learn South Africa have never scored 100 points in a RWC game. NZ have done it three times, England twice, and Australia the once (but the biggest of the six with 142 points over Namibia in 2003).

The draw's been really harsh on Romania. If Spain hadn't got points deducted during qualification, then Spain would be playing now and Romania would be where Portugal are (in terms of grouping, not geography).
I think scoring 100 points on someone is a sign of disrespect and simply shouldn't happen.  Just sit back and play D for a while.  Clearly if a team is behind by 70 points they really shouldn't be out there.  But still show some respect to the men and women who know they will be getting blown up for 80 minutes.  The values of Rugby?      

I think deliberately sitting back and playing defence is patronising and an even bigger sign of disrespect.

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Post by sensisball Sun 17 Sep 2023, 4:53 pm

James Slipper at tighthead is a big call. Been out injured for over a month and don't think he has played 3 before for Oz. Fiji have a decent scrum so could be interesting.

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Post by Heaf Sun 17 Sep 2023, 4:54 pm

Oz seem to be flirting with the offside line out wide a lot ...

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Post by lostinwales Sun 17 Sep 2023, 4:55 pm

Heaf wrote:Oz seem to be flirting with the offside line out wide a lot ...

Was going to say the same thing.

We all know refs watch teams wearing white more closely

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Post by Duty281 Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:00 pm

Can't he do that? Seemed a brilliant skill.

Aus are frequently offside, but if Brace doesn't call it then they'll keep doing it. Up to Fiji to adjust.

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Post by BigGee Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:01 pm

Don't think Carter will be running it back into heavy traffic to many more times!

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Post by lostinwales Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:02 pm

BigGee wrote:Don't think Carter will be running it back into heavy traffic to many more times!

Super tackle

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Post by sensisball Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:03 pm

Stand corrected, apparently it's Slipper's third game at tighthead. Don't think a damaged ankle is going to help him much!

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Post by BigGee Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:12 pm

A soft try but fair play to Australia for spotting it!

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Post by Heaf Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:14 pm

hmmmm - Oz player interfering with the ball placement when off feet?

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:15 pm

Fiji getting shafted yet again this is a Frak disgrace!!! mad

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Post by Duty281 Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:15 pm

Ball played on the floor by an Australian. Lineout possibly didn't go 5 metres. Otherwise, a good try.

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Post by lostinwales Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:15 pm

Arnold did interfere then pulled his arms back to pretend he wasn't doing anything - but it is up to the ref

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Post by Poorfour Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:15 pm

That’s a pretty awful call from Brace and the TMO if you ask me. Arnold may not have been playing the ball, but he was on the ground and interfering with play. If he’d tackled a player from that position it would have been a penalty to Fiji.
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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:16 pm

I'm in absolute shock. This can't be happening to Fiji again.

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Post by sensisball Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:16 pm

So playing the tackled player when you are lying on the ground is fine? As long as you are wearing gold that is.

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Post by Morgan75 Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:16 pm

Heaf wrote:hmmmm - Oz player interfering with the ball placement when off feet?

I thought he prevented the ball being placed back on the Fijian side

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Post by Poorfour Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:17 pm

And that’s inconsistent. White wasn’t bent at the hip, so the mitigation of a falling player shouldn’t apply.. Low degree of danger but direct head contact. Surely by the Laws as applied to Curry that’s a yellow?
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Post by BigGee Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:18 pm

Well Fiji have found a guy who can kick

9-8 Fiji

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:18 pm

Morgan75 wrote:
Heaf wrote:hmmmm - Oz player interfering with the ball placement when off feet?

I thought he prevented the ball being placed back on the Fijian side

No clear release. It's a Fiji penalty all day long. Horrendous officiating for that decision.

White is lucky that's only a penalty as well, no attempt to get low into that tackle.

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Post by BigGee Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:19 pm

Poorfour wrote:And that’s inconsistent. White wasn’t bent at the hip, so the mitigation of a falling player shouldn’t apply.. Low degree of danger but direct head contact. Surely by the Laws as applied to Curry that’s a yellow?

There was not a lot in that, penalty seems fair

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Post by Poorfour Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:20 pm

Fiji need to sort out their calling - that should have been Radradra’s, but the full back came in
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Post by Galted Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:21 pm

BigGee wrote:Well Fiji have found a guy who can kick

9-8 Fiji

Not often you can say that if you combine Fiji's place-kicking with SA's running game you'd have quite a team.

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:21 pm

Could be a case for Radradra touching the ball before the quick throw too. Don't think the laws have been changed to say that stops their ability to take a quick one?

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Post by Poorfour Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:22 pm

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Poorfour wrote:And that’s inconsistent. White wasn’t bent at the hip, so the mitigation of a falling player shouldn’t apply.. Low degree of danger but direct head contact. Surely by the Laws as applied to Curry that’s a yellow?

There was not a lot in that, penalty seems fair

Show me where “not a lot in that” is part of the head contact protocol? There was head contact. There was foul play. It was a low degree of danger.

Either World Rugby need to ensure that the refs apply their protocol, or they need to change it. The current state is unsustainable.
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Post by doctor_grey Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:23 pm

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doctor_grey wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Was surprised to learn South Africa have never scored 100 points in a RWC game. NZ have done it three times, England twice, and Australia the once (but the biggest of the six with 142 points over Namibia in 2003).

The draw's been really harsh on Romania. If Spain hadn't got points deducted during qualification, then Spain would be playing now and Romania would be where Portugal are (in terms of grouping, not geography).
I think scoring 100 points on someone is a sign of disrespect and simply shouldn't happen.  Just sit back and play D for a while.  Clearly if a team is behind by 70 points they really shouldn't be out there.  But still show some respect to the men and women who know they will be getting blown up for 80 minutes.  The values of Rugby?      

I think deliberately sitting back and playing defence is patronising and an even bigger sign of disrespect.
Don't see how rubbing someone's nose in it is OK when the game is long since over.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:23 pm

Poorfour wrote:Fiji need to sort out their calling - that should have been Radradra’s, but the full back came in

Normally you let the person coming from deep take it as they have more momentum and a better view.

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Post by BigGee Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:24 pm

Poorfour wrote:
BigGee wrote:
Poorfour wrote:And that’s inconsistent. White wasn’t bent at the hip, so the mitigation of a falling player shouldn’t apply.. Low degree of danger but direct head contact. Surely by the Laws as applied to Curry that’s a yellow?

There was not a lot in that, penalty seems fair

Show me where “not a lot in that” is part of the head contact protocol? There was head contact. There was foul play. It was a low degree of danger.

Either World Rugby need to ensure that the refs apply their protocol, or they need to change it. The current state is unsustainable.

It looked like over the shoulder on a player that was dropping.

There have been some contentious pens and cards in this WC but that was not one of them.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:26 pm

Aus made a fast start but they don’t quite look at the races. Fiji seem full of life and are controlling the game better.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:27 pm

Stop the clock, Brace has called an offside against Australia! Shocked

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Post by doctor_grey Sun 17 Sep 2023, 5:27 pm

Fiji has really been dictating the pace of play in the second quarter. Would be great to see them keep it up.

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