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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 14 Sep 2024, 5:08 pm

Last week, a last-play try denied Racing an away victory.

Today, they are hosting Clermont. After being down most of the match, they have grabbed three quick tries, one from Arundell, and have gone out to a 33-20 lead with ten minutes to go. They were all out wide, and Farrell could only manage one conversion.

What with all the fuss about losing Kolisi, and the expectations for Farrell, Racing badly need a home win to settle the nerves. Sam James is another English player on the pitch.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 14 Sep 2024, 6:21 pm

From the replay of the Arundell try I saw the other week it looks like Sam James is enjoying life in France. Playing well.

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Post by Hazel Sapling Sat 14 Sep 2024, 8:37 pm

Saw some of the Racing game. Farrell at 10 and Lancaster at 12 was interesting to watch.

Lancaster overplayed his hand a few times with a couple of wayward kicks straight into touch. Looks like he is trying to become a new Farrell-type player.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 14 Sep 2024, 8:54 pm

Hazel Sapling wrote:Saw some of the Racing game. Farrell at 10 and Lancaster at 12 was interesting to watch.

Lancaster overplayed his hand a few times with a couple of wayward kicks straight into touch. Looks like he is trying to become a new Farrell-type player.  

Does he look like he's there because his dad's the coach?

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Post by Rugby Fan Sun 15 Sep 2024, 2:57 am

Seems La Defense is still being converted back after doing Olympics duty, so Racing home games are being played elsewhere.

England captain Owen Farrell scored five points as Racing 92 beat Clermont 33-20 in the French Top 14 on Saturday. Racing’s maiden victory of the season marked their first game since South Africa captain Siya Kolisi announced his departure after just one season of his three-year deal.

The hosts crossed for three tries in six minutes during the second half from Owen Farrell’s compatriot Henry Arundell, France centre Gael Fickou and scrum-half Nolann Le Garrec, Antoine Dupont’s understudy with Les Bleus.

Farrell, 32, missed three shots and goal and was shown a yellow card just before the break.

“I thought he was generally good, but a little less good kicking at the posts,” Racing 92 assistant coach Frederic Michalak told reporters.

“The yellow card was a bit severe.

“Maybe the referee just wanted to show a yellow card to an English player!” Michalak jokingly added in reference to the cross-Channel rivalry.


A much-changed Clermont, coached by the colourful Christophe Urios, followed last weekend’s win at Pau by defeat despite leading by four points with 20 minutes to play.

The game was moved across the French capital to a fourth-tier football ground in the suburb of Creteil as flyhalf Farrell made his home debut after his summer move from Saracens.

Racing’s usual La Defense Arena home is being re-adapted for rugby after it was used as a swimming venue at the Olympic and Paralympic Games.

The sides went into the break 13-13 apiece as Farrell was sin-binned for offside in the build-up to Clermont flyhalf Anthony Belleau’s try.

Andy Farrell, dad of Owen was in the stands.

The 49 year-old will take charge of the British and Irish Lions for next year’s tour of Australia and can select his son even if he is ineligible for England as he plays his club rugby abroad.

Racing’s three crucial tries came just after the hour mark, the highlight being Fickou’s effort, set-up by 32-year-old flyhalf Farrell.

https://rugby365.com/tournaments/top-14/racing-92-begin-post-kolisi-era-with-win-over-clermont/

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Post by lostinwales Sun 15 Sep 2024, 9:44 am

Looks like Paris English did good

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Post by Hazel Sapling Sun 15 Sep 2024, 1:09 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:
Hazel Sapling wrote:Saw some of the Racing game. Farrell at 10 and Lancaster at 12 was interesting to watch.

Lancaster overplayed his hand a few times with a couple of wayward kicks straight into touch. Looks like he is trying to become a new Farrell-type player.  

Does he look like he's there because his dad's the coach?

Hard to say based on 30 minutes in one match. I wouldn't say he looked obviously out of place or that Racing have a better option on the books looking at Wiki

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Post by Rugby Fan Sun 22 Sep 2024, 9:50 am

Bordeaux Bègles 52-34 Racing

Racing got two late converted tries, which closed the gap a little. Still, can't imagine Racing's owner will be pleased about his side shipping 50 points. Stuart Lancaster has a four year deal but failure isn't tolerated for too long in the Top 14, so the pressure will be on to get a run of results.

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Post by Rugby Fan Sun 29 Sep 2024, 2:34 pm

In Stuart Lancaster watch, Racing lost by a point at home to La Rochelle. The Irish Examiner has a report in English:

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/rugby/arid-41485597.html

Racing had the lead but gave away a try with five minutes to go, with Cameron Woki sent to the bin. However, they got a lifeline, when La Rochelle missed a sitter of a conversion. However, Racing just couldn't control those last minutes, and gave away a penalty which the kicker managed to put over, with no time left on the clock.

Racing fans are already antsy about Stuart Lancaster selecting his son to start games. If there's no sign of a turnaround soon, then French owners are not known for their patience.

Incidentally, Toulouse are playing Bordeaux-Bègles tonight, which could be a tasty confrontation.

Le XV de départ de Toulouse : 15. Ramos ; 14. Capuozzo, 13. Barassi, 12. Ahki, 11. Kinghorn; 10. R. Ntamack, 9. Graou ; 7. Banos, 8. Roumat, 6. Cros ; 5. Meafou, 4. Flament; 3. Aldegheri, 2. Marchand (cap.), 1. Ainu’u.

Les remplaçants : 16. Mauvaka, 17. Neti, 18. Brennan, 19. Arnold, 20. Jelonch, 21. Saito, 22. Delibes, 23. Merkler.

Le XV de départ de Bordeaux-Bègles : 15. Bielle-Biarrey ; 14. Retière, 13. Moefana, 12. Janse Van Rensburg, 11. Uberti ; 10. Jalibert, 9. Lucu : 7. Samu, 8. Tatafu, 6. Vergnes-Taillefer ; 5. Gray, 4. Bochaton ; 3. Falatea, 2. Latterrade, 1. Boniface.

Les remplaçants : 16. Lamothe, 17. Perchaud, 18. Cazeaux, 19. Diaby, 20. Matiu, 21. Garcia, 22. Reybier, 23. Sadie.

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Post by Rugby Fan Mon 30 Sep 2024, 12:03 am

Rugby Fan wrote:...Incidentally, Toulouse are playing Bordeaux-Bègles tonight, which could be a tasty confrontation.

Bordeaux 12-16 Toulouse

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Post by Rugby Fan Mon 30 Sep 2024, 5:45 pm

Stade Francais have sacked their coach.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Mon 30 Sep 2024, 6:36 pm

Rugby Fan wrote:Stade Francais have sacked their coach.

Rumours are that Gustard could find his remit increased. The Director of Rugby or whatever name they were going by had stepped back into day to day coaching after the head coach's methods weren't particularly popular with players towards the end of last season.

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 05 Oct 2024, 2:30 pm

Current half-time score

RC Vannes 17-10 Racing 92

While away victories are hard to come by in the Top14, RC Vannes are newly-promoted and currently at the bottom of the table. Top teams should be targeting a win. Vannes forwards had the upper hand for much of the first half.

If Racing go down today, then Lancaster might be in a spot of trouble.


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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 12 Oct 2024, 3:36 pm

It was a dreadfully dour game but Racing came out on top 22-6 against Toulon. The result will give Lancaster a bit more breathing space, though the style of play won't satisfy many.

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Post by king_carlos Sun 13 Oct 2024, 4:08 pm

Did you watch it out of interest RF?

The Dan Lancaster situation looks farcical on the surface. A few fans I know who watch the Top 14 think it's laughable. Outside of one penalty from halfway about the most positive thing they can say for Lancaster Jnr is that, "He's made some OK tackles and caught the ball". He's presumably being picked as a playmaker at 12 but his passing and kicking game are reportedly worse than the likes of Fickou, Sam James and Max Spring. Whilst he's slightly for a 10 so he can't be offering anything carrying himself.

To have Tuisova pushed back out the wing is nuts alone. He was brilliant at 12 for Fiji in the RWC. It suits him so much better in attack and defence in the modern game. To do that, then be starting Lancaster ahead of players such as James or Spring just seems insanity. The kid did nowt at Tigers, couldn't get another Prem deal, dropped down to the Championship with Ealing, couldn't make himself first choice at 10 or 12 there. Now his dad's picked him for 6 games from 6, whilst starting 3 of them, in the highest quality domestic league in rugby. They could be picking 10.Farrell 12.Tuisova 13.Fickou for f**k sake!

I'm honestly surprised that some of the more mainstream pundits or journalists haven't commented on it. Be that in print or the podcast circuit. It looks about as blatant a bit of nepotism as you could get.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 13 Oct 2024, 4:35 pm

king_carlos wrote:Did you watch it out of interest RF?

The Dan Lancaster situation looks farcical on the surface. A few fans I know who watch the Top 14 think it's laughable. Outside of one penalty from halfway about the most positive thing they can say for Lancaster Jnr is that, "He's made some OK tackles and caught the ball". He's presumably being picked as a playmaker at 12 but his passing and kicking game are reportedly worse than the likes of Fickou, Sam James and Max Spring. Whilst he's slightly for a 10 so he can't be offering anything carrying himself.

To have Tuisova pushed back out the wing is nuts alone. He was brilliant at 12 for Fiji in the RWC. It suits him so much better in attack and defence in the modern game. To do that, then be starting Lancaster ahead of players such as James or Spring just seems insanity. The kid did nowt at Tigers, couldn't get another Prem deal, dropped down to the Championship with Ealing, couldn't make himself first choice at 10 or 12 there. Now his dad's picked him for 6 games from 6, whilst starting 3 of them, in the highest quality domestic league in rugby. They could be picking 10.Farrell 12.Tuisova 13.Fickou for f**k sake!

I'm honestly surprised that some of the more mainstream pundits or journalists haven't commented on it. Be that in print or the podcast circuit. It looks about as blatant a bit of nepotism as you could get.

He's a good goal kicker and from range as well but hardly required when you've got Farrell at 10.

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