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Post by trebellbobaggins Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:32 am

Half way there already.

will England finally change the batting around?

will the stop picking their favourites and give the obvious choices like Onions at home a chance? (Though Bresnan and broads bowling here would suggest not, show sweat I know).


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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:33 am

Bowling's not been great this innings, but they can't bail out the batsmen everytime.

You don't win many test matches making 240 in your first innings, on what was a pretty good batting day
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Post by trebellbobaggins Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:35 am

TMS slating England. warner playing would have seen aussie win the first two tests.

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Post by VTR Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:39 am

We just can't build pressure here. I could accept 160-2 if it was off say 60 overs, but they have been rattling along at 4 an over all day. Aussies know this is in the bag now bar a major **** up.

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Post by Hoggy_Bear Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:42 am

Might as well give Root a bowl at Warner, just for the craic. This match is lost anyway.

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Post by hampo17 Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:45 am

Huge wicket, snick Smith out quickly here and we've got a slight chance.

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Post by VTR Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:46 am

Warner out. Hanging on by our fingernails to this, still a small chance to win it.

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Post by msp83 Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:49 am

If England could get Clarke today, the game situation would become one of less advantage Australia. If they get another one today, then it'll be advantage England, just a little bit.

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Post by VTR Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:52 am

Whatever the outcome here I want changes for the final Test. Bairstow out, Root back to 6. Not keen on Compton to open, an out of form Cook and Compton too turgid for me so Chopra or Carberry.

Bowling Jimmy needs a rest so Onions in for him. Possibly Finn for Bresnan too (risky but we need some pace in the attack).

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Post by Gerry SA Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:54 am

Surely England are favourites to win now.

Clarke and Smith followed by Watson with a pulled groin(no runner allowed) and Haddin.

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Post by hampo17 Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:57 am

Onions broke his finger today so is unlikely to be fit for the next test.

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Post by Gerry SA Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:59 am

hampo171 wrote:Onions broke his finger today so is unlikely to be fit for the next test.
Tremlett for Anderson/Bresnan?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:02 am

Absolute waste of a review

Surely they can see that, clearly hit the back leg
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Post by VTR Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:02 am

hampo171 wrote:Onions broke his finger today so is unlikely to be fit for the next test.
I read that earlier but still put him in my armchair selector team - d'oh! That's not good, poor old Jimmy needs a break but if we don't have a close replacement I would imagine he will play

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Post by VTR Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:04 am

Another review burned out of desperation. Now the match is in Tony Hill's hands, deary me, might as well shake hands now.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:10 am

BROAD
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Post by VTR Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:11 am

Oh that's massive right after the drinks break

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Post by trebellbobaggins Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:12 am

better batting and England could have won this.

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Post by JDizzle Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:12 am

Olly wrote:Absolute waste of a review

Surely they can see that, clearly hit the back leg
Prior is worse than Broad for ridiculous reviews now!

Broad! What a ball!

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Post by mystiroakey Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:12 am

The knee jerkers above crack me up. Even if we cant win this game its as close as games come. Isn't that what we want!!

It doesn't hold weight saying how good OZ are but how bad Eng are.The teams are just matched this test!! Its a thriller in Manilla!

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Post by hampo17 Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:14 am

Great ball by Broad, need to get Watson out cheap now.

Broad hitting 91mph!

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Post by mystiroakey Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:14 am

Broad a true quick!!!

wow I didn't think he could hit 91 mph!

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Post by VTR Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:15 am

mystiroakey wrote:The knee jerkers above crack me up. Even if we cant win this game its as close as games come. Isn't that what we want!!

It doesn't hold weight saying how good OZ are but how bad Eng are.The teams are just matched this test!! Its a thriller in Manilla!
Agree but that doesn't mean we should ignore issues - we want to improve and be number one. Main issue to address is being not many for 3 all the time.

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Post by JDizzle Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:16 am

This is top stuff from Broad. Fast, aggressive, targetting the stumps with a touch of reverse swing. Come on Stu, get on that roll.

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Post by mystiroakey Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:17 am

I suppose we need to stop the "we are the best" and "we are the worst"

Yes I am just as guilty as everyone else !

I just think the lads(batters) have had a bad series.. Cook, KP and trott are just so much better. I also think siddle and harris are so underrated and have come on bundles!

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Post by hampo17 Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:22 am

Broady! Slightly lucky wicket but they all count.

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Post by VTR Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:23 am

Broad again!

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Post by JDizzle Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:23 am

Broad! Come on son! Nip out a couple more here and save us the pain of a close finish...

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Post by trebellbobaggins Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:24 am

aussie must be glad they have that man Harris to bosh the score at the end.

the tail isn't as strong as recent games  so they know he is their match winner.

 

didn't expect agent Smith to feel the pressure like that at all. He's a bit of a Bairstow. Capable of more but making technical mistakes.

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Post by mystiroakey Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:25 am

Broad on another streak!! come on!!

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Post by VTR Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:25 am

mystiroakey wrote:I suppose we need to stop the "we are the best" and "we are the worst"

Yes I am just as guilty as everyone else !

I just think the lads(batters) have had a bad series.. Cook, KP and trott are just so much better. I also think siddle and harris are so underrated and have come on bundles!
Its not wholesale changes for me just remove Bairstow who doesn't look ready yet and get Root out of the firing line into the middle order. Both will be back in time. Bring in an in form opener and see how they do - I personally like Carberry as a player (not too old either, look at Rogers)

Similar with the bowlers, rest tired bowlers, the schedule for these Tests is a brute.

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Post by alfie Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:25 am

Well well well...back from Moscow just in time to see Broad remove Smith !

Good couple of minutes Smile 

Christine O won in the last stride , for anyone who is interested Bubbly Bubbly 

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Post by VTR Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:27 am

alfie wrote:Well well well...back from Moscow just in time to see Broad remove Smith !

Good couple of minutes Smile 

Christine O won in the last stride , for anyone who is interested Bubbly Bubbly 
Yes I was watching that too. Great race, decided by the third umpire Very Happy 

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Post by mystiroakey Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:28 am

That is so out Wato!! plumb

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Post by hampo17 Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:28 am

This will be umpires call.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:29 am

VTR wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:I suppose we need to stop the "we are the best" and "we are the worst"

Yes I am just as guilty as everyone else !

I just think the lads(batters) have had a bad series.. Cook, KP and trott are just so much better. I also think siddle and harris are so underrated and have come on bundles!
Its not wholesale changes for me just remove Bairstow who doesn't look ready yet and get Root out of the firing line into the middle order. Both will be back in time. Bring in an in form opener and see how they do - I personally like Carberry as a player (not too old either, look at Rogers)

Similar with the bowlers, rest tired bowlers, the schedule for these Tests is a brute.
 I have to agree with Root down and Bairstow in.

I'm not sure if Trott needs county time too.

And i'd play Onions at Durham if we could do this again and rest Jimmy.

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Post by mystiroakey Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:29 am

maybe not as plumb as i first thought. Not a bad review tbh!

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Post by hampo17 Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:30 am

hampo171 wrote:This will be umpires call.
 Yahoo 

I could do this job without the bloody technology.

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Post by kingraf Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:30 am

Fantastic from Broad, but the umpiring has been ridiculously inconsistent. The current state of natural light cant possibly be better than it was yesterday...
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Post by VTR Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:30 am

You can't blame Watson for reviewing this time. With Siddle at 8 he really needed to take the chance there.

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Post by mystiroakey Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:31 am

hampo171 wrote:
hampo171 wrote:This will be umpires call.
 Yahoo 

I could do this job without the bloody technology.
I heard there are a few jobs going..

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Post by trebellbobaggins Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:31 am

quite a change really. 

But you have no tail here at all so it's all aussie still due to the small number of runs.

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Post by hampo17 Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:32 am

mystiroakey wrote:
hampo171 wrote:
hampo171 wrote:This will be umpires call.
 Yahoo 

I could do this job without the bloody technology.
I heard there are a few jobs going..
 Where do I apply Very Happy

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Post by dyrewolfe Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:33 am

Good god!

In the time its taken me to get home from work, Australia have lost 4 wickets for about 20 runs.

Suddenly England scent victory and suddenly our bowlers look as dangerous as we know they can be. Yahoo
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Post by GSC Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:33 am

Its like watching England
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Post by VTR Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:34 am

trebellbobaggins wrote:quite a change really. 

But you have no tail here at all so it's all aussie still due to the small number of runs.
I would say they have a tail in this match, certainly by modern standards where you don't really expect absolute rabbits with the bat. 8 and 9 who can bat a bit then a pretty weak 10 and 11. Nothing like as good as Agar - Pattinson - Starc - Siddle.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:34 am

Haddin still there, Siddle.. Harris.

70-30 aussie with so few runs to get.

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Post by mystiroakey Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:35 am

Broad is super aggressive today- Really on the up..And the calls for him to be dropped before this game!! Oh my days.. I cant imagine what would have happened..

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Post by alfie Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:36 am

Come on Broad...get Haddin and England really will fancy their chances...
Nothing assumed in this game. Both these two are fighters , and only 120 to go .

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Post by dyrewolfe Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:37 am

Were our bowlers just toying with the Aussies...giving them some false hope?
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