Fixture 7

Bath v Exeter

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Bath
Manager – 207

01. Jon Golding	09. Richard Wigglesworth
02. Joe Ward	10. Steven Shingler
03. Davit Zirakshvilli
04. Louis Deacon	11. Napolini Nalaga
05. Rob Simmons	12. Francois Steyn
06. Will Skuse	13. Joe Ansboro
07. Steffon Armitage	14. Maxime Medard
08. Tom Guest	15. Tim Nanai Williams

16. Will Tanner 17. Richard Skuse 18. Petrus Du Plessis 19. James Cannon 20. Sean O'Brien 21 James Grindal 22. Ben Williams 23. Kurtley Beale

Tactics

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Exeter Chiefs
Manager – Driver

01. Alastair Dickinson	09. Nick Phipps
02. Benjamin Kayser	10. Steven Myler
03. Juan Pablo Orlandi
04. James Hudson	11. David Lemi
05. George Skivington	12. Gordan D’Arcy
06. Ben Skirving	13. Regan King
07. Shane Jennings	14. Ian Balshaw
08. Gareth Delve	15. George Pisi

16. Clark 17. Sturgess 18. Mercy 19. Shaw 20. Lakafia 21. O’ Leary 22. Mativista 23. Matt Smith

Tactics

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Gloucester v Leicester Tigers

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Gloucester
Manager – Anonymatt

01. Nick Wood	09. Will Genia
02. Adrian Strauss	10. Steven Donald
03. James Johnstone
04. Bakkies Botha	11. James Simpson Daniel
05. George Robson	12. Berrick Barnes
06. Maure Fasivalu	13. Rob Horne
07. Andy Saull	14. Charlie Sharples
08. Willem Alberts	15. Israel Dagg

16. Payne 17. George 18. White 19. Hanks 20. Harinoriquay 21. Lewis 22. Carter 23. Muliana

Tactics

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Leicester Tigers
Manager – LukeLovesLuka

Leicester Tigers
Manager – Luke

01. Clarke Dermody	09. Micky Young
02. Sebastian Bruno	10. Toby Flood (k)
03. Cencus Johnston
04. Brad Thorn (c)	11. Isa Nacewa
05. Alex Brown	12. Yannick Jauzion
06. Thomas Waldrom	13. Tim Molenaar
07. Magnus Lund	14. Cory Jane
08. Ernst Joubert	15. Clement Poitrenaud

16. Dan Murphy 17. Matt Thompson 18. Dan Cole 19. Jarrad Hoeata 20. Nick Easter 21. Scott Mathie 22. Dave Walder 23. Rupeni Caucaunibuca

Tactics

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London Wasps v Harlequins

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London Wasps
Manager – Arry

01. Perry Freshwater	09. Michael Classens
02. Steve Thompson	10. Jimmy Gopperth
03. Carlos Nieto
04. Dan Ward Smith	11. Drew Mitchell
05. Marco Wentzal	12. James Downey
06. Tom Johnson	13. Stirling Mortlock
07. Deon Stegmann	14. Chris Wyles
08. Roger Wilson	15. Mike Brown

16. Tatafu Polota-Nau 17. Benn Robinson 18. Charlie Beech 19. Stuart Hooper 20. James Haskell 21. Martin Roberts 22. Rory Clegg 23. Noah Cato

Tactics

Usual Wasps tactics look to stamp our authority on the game early on by starting at a high intensity with some big carrying from our forwards. We will look to get the offloading game going if possible to keep Quins on the back front.

We will use our centres as crash ball options and look to support them in numbers and create space out wide for our wingers to use.

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Harlequin
Manager – StevenSharks

01. Joe Marler	09. Byron Kellaher
02. Schalk Brits	10. Freddie Burns
03. Brian Mujati
04. Jerome Thion	11. Joe Rokocoko
05. Tom Donnelly	12. Steve Kefu
06. Richie Vernon	13. George Lowe
07. Phil Dowson	14. Jonathan Joseph
08. Chris Henry	15. Luke Morahan

16. Rob Vickers 17. Ceri Jones 18. Kieran Brookes 19. Erik Lund 20. James Gaskell 21. Jamie Gibson 22. Lee Dickson 23. Matt Carraro

Tactics

We are going to play controlled rugby. We are going to look to get to good field position using our pack and the boot of Burns. When we get good position we will look to spread the ball wide to our exciting back 3. We will look to use our bench to make an impact throughout the second period. We want to put pressure on the Wasps set piece and disrupt there play in general.

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London Irish v Newcastle Falcons

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London Irish
Manager – stnick88

01. Matias Aguero	09. Julien Dupuy
02. James Buckland	10. Daniel Bowden
03. WP Nel
04. Mouritz Botha	11. Paul Sackey
05. Nick Kennedy	12. Mathieu Bastareaud
06. Keegan Daniel	13. Matthew Tait
07. Hendre Fourie	14. JP Pietersen
08. Xavier Rush	15. Joe Maddock

16. Tonga Lea'atoea 17. Neil Briggs 18. Duncan Bell 19. Matt Garvey 20. Joe Worsley 21. Neal De Kock 22. Gonzalo Tiesi 23. Juan Martin Hernandez


Tactics

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Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Pooly

01. Ben Alexander	09. Sarel Pretorious
02. William Servat	10. Nick Evans
03. Juan Gomez
04. Dean Schofield	11. Miles Benjamin
05. Paul O’Connell(c)	12. Luke McAlister
06. Chris Robshaw	13. Jared Payne
07. Heinrich Brussow	14. Topsy Ojo
08. Duane Vermeulen	15. Ben Smith

16. Tom Lindsay 17. Paul Doran-Jones 18. Fabien Barcella 19. Geoff Parling 20. Kieran Read 21. Jonny Arr 22. Colin Slade 23. Tom Catterick

Tactics

Normal Falcons high intensity tactics......compete in pack and target lineout with numerous jumpers. Control breakdown and look to attack with turnover ball.

Pretorious to attack the fringes and Evans to call the shots in the backline. Ben Smith will look to come into the line and McAlister will offer second kicking option

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Northampton Saints v Worcester Warriors

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Northampton Saints
Manager – Chris

01. Thomas Domingo	09. Joe Simpson
02. Rob Webber	10. George Ford
03. Dave Wilson
04. Courtney Lawes	11. Leigh Halfpenny
05. Calum Clark	12. Jean de Villiers
06. Ryan Kankowski	13. Manu Tuilagi
07. Alexandre Lapandry	14. Rory Lamont
08. Simon Taylor	15. Danny Cipriani

16. Chris Whitehead 17. Matt Stevens 18. Carl Hayman 19. Shane Geraghty 20. Bradley Davies 21. Luke Watson 22. Mike Phllips 23. Matt Giteau

Tactics

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Worcester Warriors
Manager – Prop

01. David Flatman	09. Jordi Pasqulin
02. Richard Strauss	10. Nicky Robinson
03. BJ Botha
04. Ben Gulliver	11. Marcel Garvey
05. Jim Hamilton	12. Pat McCabe
06. Ryan Jones	13. Jon Clarke
07. Scott Higginbottom	14. Julien Malzieu
08. Ben Morgan	15. Olly Morgan

16. Koree Britton 17. George Porter 18. Yann Thomas 19. Peter Short 20. Sebastian Chabal 21. Dwayne Peel 22. Sam Vesty 23. Rob Cook

Tactics

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Saracens v Sale Sharks

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Saracens
Manager – LDCPete

01. Alex Corbisiero	09. Morgan Parra
02. Bismarck du Plessis	10. Francois Trinh-Duc
03. Adam Jones
04. Lionel Nallet	11. Digby Ioane
05. Steve Borthwick	12. Ma'a Nonu
06. Tom Wood	13. Nevin Spence
07. Thierry Dusautoir	14. Mark Cueto
08. Joe van Niekerk	15. Alex Goode

16. George Chuter 17. Tendai Mtwarira 18. Jannie du Plessis 19. Graham Kitchener 20. Luke Narraway 21. Paul Hodgson 22. Billy Twelvetrees 23. Rene Ranger

Tactics

No tactics as such, just that I would be instructing all of these players to play their normal game. So would not be using Borthwick as a carrier, but he would be calling the lineouts etc.

Could I have feedback on the team overall please as I am now trying to work out my best post World Cup line up.

Thanks guys.

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Sale Sharks
Manager – SJE

01. Jerome Schuster	09. Danny Care
02. David Paice	10. Johnny Sexton
03. Luc Ducalcon
04. Romain Millo Chluski	11. David Strettle
05. Andries Bekker	12. Olly Barkley
06. Victor Vito	13. Robbie Freuen
07. Matt Todd	14. Keith Earls
08. Louis Picamoles	15. Luke Rooney

16. Lee Imolek 17. Brett Sharman 18. Neemia Tialata 19. Christian Day 20. Fulgence Quedragao 21. Nicholas Bezy 22. Jordan Turner Hall 23. Nick Abendanoon

Tactics

Guys could I get feedback on the following if at all possible please:
1. Front row as a scrummaging unit and in particular peoples rating of Schuster
2. Back row verses other regular starting back rows
3. Midfield combo
Thanks!

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London Irish side per last week:

London Irish
Manager – stnick88

01. Matias Aguero	09. Julien Dupuy
02. James Buckland	10. Daniel Bowden
03. WP Nel
04. Mouritz Botha	11. Paul Sackey
05. Nick Kennedy	12. Mathieu Bastareaud
06. Keegan Daniel	13. Matthew Tait
07. Hendre Fourie	14. JP Pietersen
08. Xavier Rush	15. Joe Maddock

16. Tonga Lea'atoea 17. Neil Briggs 18. Duncan Bell 19. Matt Garvey 20. Joe Worsley 21. Neal De Kock 22. Gonzalo Tiesi 23. Juan Martin Hernandez

Can we all use the coding please like last weeks game please for lineups guys? Thanks

Nice work SJE, will post my team up later.

Sale Sharks
Manager – SJE

01. Jerome Schuster	09. Danny Care
02. David Paice	10. Johnny Sexton
03. Luc Ducalcon
04. Romain Millo Chluski	11. David Strettle
05. Andries Bekker	12. Olly Barkley
06. Victor Vito	13. Robbie Freuen
07. Matt Todd	14. Keith Earls
08. Louis Picamoles	15. Luke Rooney

16. Lee Imolek 17. Brett Sharman 18. Neemia Tialata 19. Christian Day 20. Fulgence Quedragao 21. Nicholas Bezy 22. Jordan Turner Hall 23. Nick Abendanoon

Guys could I get feedback on the following if at all possible please:
1. Front row as a scrummaging unit and in particular peoples rating of Schuster
2. Back row verses other regular starting back rows
3. Midfield combo

Cheers

Saints team versus Worcestor

01. Thomas Domingo	09. Joe Simpson
02. Rob Webber	10. George Ford
03. Dave Wilson
04. Courtney Lawes	11.
05. Calum Clark	12. Jean de Villiers
06. Ryan Kankowski	13. Manu Tuilagi
07. Alexandre Lapandry	14. Rory Lamont
08. Simon Taylor	15. Danny Cipriani

16. Chris Whitehead 17. Matt Stevens 18. Carl Hayman 19. Shane Geraghty 20. Bradley Davies 21. Luke Watson 22. Mike Phllips 23. Matt Giteau

Why do I always forget someone!!! Leigh Halfpenny at 11 please!

Saracens
Manager – LDCPete

01. Alex Corbisiero	09. Morgan Parra
02. Bismarck du Plessis	10. Francois Trinh-Duc
03. Adam Jones
04. Lionel Nallet	11. Digby Ioane
05. Steve Borthwick	12. Ma'a Nonu
06. Tom Wood	13. Nevin Spence
07. Thierry Dusautoir	14. Mark Cueto
08. Joe van Niekerk	15. Alex Goode

16. George Chuter 17. Tendai Mtwarira 18. Jannie du Plessis 19. Graham Kitchener 20. Luke Narraway 21. Paul Hodgson 22. Billy Twelvetrees 23. Rene Ranger

Tactics

No tactics as such, just that I would be instructing all of these players to play their normal game. So would not be using Borthwick as a carrier, but he would be calling the lineouts etc.

Could I have feedback on the team overall please as I am now trying to work out my best post World Cup line up.

Thanks guys.

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Dickinson
Kayser
Orlandi
Hudson (c)
Skivington
Skirving 
Jennings
Delve
Phipps
Myler
Lemi
D'arcy
King
Balshaw
Pisi

Clark
Sturgess
Mercy
Shaw
Lakafia
TOL
Mativista
Matt Smith

Will get my team in later lads

WASPS TEAM

1. Perry Freshwater
2. Steve Thompson
3. Carlos Nieto
4. Dan Ward-Smith
5. Marco Wentzel
6. Tom Johnson
7. Deon Stegmann
8. Roger Wilson

9. Michael Claassens (c)
10. Jimmy Gopperth
11. Drew Mitchell
12. James Downey
13. Stirling Mortlock
14. Chris Wyles
15. Mike Brown

16. Tatafu Polota-Nau
17. Benn Robinson
18. Charlie Beech
19. Stuart Hooper
20. James Haskell
21. Martin Roberts
22. Rory Clegg
23. Noah Cato

Leicester side to play Gloucester:

Leicester Tigers
Manager – Luke

01. Clarke Dermody	09. Micky Young
02. Sebastian Bruno	10. Toby Flood (k)
03. Cencus Johnston
04. Brad Thorn (c)	11. Isa Nacewa
05. Alex Brown	12. Yannick Jauzion
06. Thomas Waldrom	13. Tim Molenaar
07. Magnus Lund	14. Cory Jane
08. Ernst Joubert	15. Clement Poitrenaud

16. Dan Murphy 17. Matt Thompson 18. Dan Cole 19. Jarrad Hoeata 20. Nick Easter 21. Scott Mathie 22. Dave Walder 23. Rupeni Caucaunibuca

Harlequins

01. Joe Marler	09. Byron Kellaher
02. Schalk Brits	10. Freddie Burns
03. Brian Mujati
04. Jerome Thion	11. Joe Rokocoko
05. Tom Donnelly	12. Steve Kefu
06. Richie Vernon	13. George Lowe
07. Phil Dowson	14. Jonathan Joseph
08. Chris Henry	15. Luke Morahan

16. Rob Vickers 17. Ceri Jones 18. Kieran Brookes 19. Erik Lund 20. James Gaskell 21. Jamie Gibson 22. Lee Dickson 23. Matt Carraro

Tactics

We are going to play controlled rugby. We are going to look to get to good field position using our pack and the boot of Burns. When we get good position we will look to spread the ball wide to our exciting back 3. We will look to use our bench to make an impact throughout the second period. We want to put pressure on the Wasps set piece and disrupt there play in general.

Worcester

01. David Flatman 09. Jordi Pasqualin
02. Richardt Strauss 10. Nicky Robinson
03. BJ Botha
04. Ben Gulliver 11. Marcel Garvey
05. Jim Hamilton 12. Pat McCabe
06. Ryan Jones © 13. Jon Clarke
07. Scott Higginbotham 14. Julien Malzieu
08. Ben Morgan 15. Olly Morgan


16. Koree Britton 17. George Porter 18. Yann Thomas 19. Peter Short 20. Sebastian Chabal 21. Dwayne Peel 22. Sam Vesty 23. Rob Cook

01. Jon Golding 09. Richard Wigglesworth
02. Joe Ward 10. Steven Shingler
03. Davit Zirakshvilli
04. Louis Deacon 11. Nopolini Nalaga
05. Rob Simmons 12. Francois Steyn
06. Will Skuse 13. Joe Ansboro
07. Steffon Armitage 14. Maxime Medard
08. Tom Guest 15. Tim Nanai Williams
16. Will Tanner 17. Richard Skuse 18. Petrus Du Plessis 19. James Cannon 20. Sean O'Brien 21 James Grindal 22. Ben Williams 23. Kurtley Beale

01. James johnstone 09. Will Genia
02. Adriaan Strauss 10. Steven Donnald
03. Nick Wood
04. Bakkies Botha 11. JSD
05. George Robson 12. Berrick Barnes
06. Fasivalu 13. Horne
07. Andy Saull 14. Sharples
08. Willem Alberts 15. Israel Dagg

16 payne
17 George
18 White
19 hanks
20 Deacon
21 Lewis
22 Carter
23 Muliana

16. Dan Murphy 17. Matt Thompson 18. Dan Cole 19. Jarrad Hoeata 20. Nick Easter 21. Scott Mathie 22. Dave Walder 23. Rupeni Caucaunibuca

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Re: Fixture 7

Post by anonmattyt Today at 12:25 pm
01. James johnstone 09. Will Genia
02. Adriaan Strauss 10. Steven Donnald
03. Nick Wood
04. Bakkies Botha 11. JSD
05. George Robson 12. Berrick Barnes
06. Fasivalu 13. Horne
07. Andy Saull 14. Sharples
08. Willem Alberts 15. Israel Dagg

16 payne
17 George
18 White
19 hanks
20 Hari
21 Lewis
22 Carter
23 Muliana

This is the proper team had a mare



01. James johnstone 09. Will Genia
02. Adriaan Strauss 10. Steven Donnald
03. Nick Wood
04. Bakkies Botha 11. JSD
05. George Robson 12. Berrick Barnes
06. Fasivalu 13. Horne
07. Andy Saull 14. Sharples
08. Willem Alberts 15. Israel Dagg

16 payne
17 George
18 White
19 hanks
20 Hari
21 Lewis
22 Carter
23 Muliana

Have you your props the wrong way around Matt mate?

I'll try and get team up by 6 Johnny

Props need to be switched its that bloody format!!!

You will soon get used to it Matt mate

Newcastle team to face Irish

01. Ben Alexander	09. Sarel Pretorious
02. William Servat	10. Nick Evans
03. Juan Gomez
04. Dean Schofield	11. Miles Benjamin
05. Paul O’Connell(c)	12. Luke McAlister
06. Chris Robshaw	13. Jared Payne
07. Heinrich Brussow	14. Topsy Ojo
08. Duane Vermeulen	15. Ben Smith

16. Tom Lindsay 17. Paul Doran-Jones 18. Fabien Barcella 19. Geoff Parling 20. Kieran Read 21. Jonny Arr 22. Colin Slade 23. Tom Catterick


Tactics: Normal Falcons high intensity tactics......compete in pack and target lineout with numerous jumpers. Control breakdown and look to attack with turnover ball.

Pretorious to attack the fringes and Evans to call the shots in the backline. Ben Smith will look to come into the line and McAlister will offer second kicking option.

Wasps tactics

Usual Wasps tactics look to stamp our authority on the game early on by starting at a high intensity with some big carrying from our forwards. We will look to get the offloading game going if possible to keep Quins on the back front.

We will use our centres as crash ball options and look to support them in numbers and create space out wide for our wingers to use.

Bath 22-22 Exeter

Good up front battle, touch more to Exeter in the scrum, bit for Bath in the loose. Interesting engine rooms. Alot of grunt but good lineout ops for Bath, very athletic units for Exeter. I like both
units although different and not much give in the front 5's. Solid backrow units from both sides and nice balance, bit more quality from Exeter though.

I've got Exeter taking halfbacks as Shingler an unknown for me. Good Exeter pairing and similar in centres with 2 good centre pairings. Very tasty back 3 from Bath that will give issues.

Tight game from 2 good teams that I just can't separate with both having good quality throughout.

Bath 14 16 Exeter

In the front 5, good close battle at scrum time. Two strong THs and issues at LH on both sides so neither side is going to get on top here. At the lineout can see Chiefs getting on top with two specialists picking off a few Bath throws. Much more in grunt and around the park from Baths engine room for me though. In the back row Exeter on top for me. Neither BS brings a lot of confidence but Jennings in top form at 7 and Delve a step up from Guest currently.

In the half backs I have Exeter shading it. Not much in it at scrumhalf but Shingler doesn’t have a lot of experience and will need game time this season in real life to be rated. In the backs I have Bath a class above in the back 3 with a great set of wingers out. Midfields tight but shading to Chiefs just slightly for me with a better balance. Both benches have a bit of impact to bring in so no real advantage here.

Exeter on top in the back row battle and Jennings will have a good say in the break down battle in this game. Comes down to the Fly half battle really for me. Myler with decent ball is the right type of 10 to take advantage of Chiefs lineout advantage and will play the percentages. Not to sure what Shingler can offer yet though. Bath back 3 will keep them going forward but not enough for this one.

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Gloucester 21 21 Leicester Tigers

At scrum time Tigers shading the battle but not enough to really disrupt Glaws for me. At the lineout both sides with fairly similar options here and should hold their own ball. In terms of grunt and mobility around the park both sides even for me. An even front 5 battle in this one. Same story in the back row. Have it even at BS, Lund ahead at 7 and Alberts at 8. Good balance to both sides. Great pack battle overall.

At halfbacks its one a piece but Glaws ahead overall with Genia >>> Young and Flood > Donald. In the backs both sides lacking form in midfield but Barnes is the key man on show. Back 3s to Tigers though with a step up in quality with some top players. On the benches Tigers have the forwards to really get a strangle hold on the last 20 minutes but some good back options for Glaws.

Very good even game here. Pack battle would be great to watch. Can see Glaws getting themselves ahead with genia and Barnes helping to pull the strings on attack but Tigers pack will really get on the front foot over the last 20 or so minutes with the subs to come in. Difficult to split so will call it a draw. If I was taking home advantage into consideration Glaws to pick up a ½ point win at home and vice versa for Tigers dependent on tactics.

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London Wasps 20 14 Harlequins

Scrum battle to Wasps for me. Nieto in real life has really given Marler a rough time in their meetings so far. At the lineout battle would expect Wentzel to pick a ball or two off an out of form Donnelly. Back row battle is interesting. Wasps slightly shading it at the moment but could change during the season if Vernon can get on well at Sale in real life.

Halfbacks to Wasps for me. An on form Kelleher would be a class ahead in this game but he was pretty poor last season while Classens had a tidy year and Gopperth is the better 10 on show. In the backs great defensive combo on show from Wasps. Going to need a creative spark to get through that midfield. Back 3s probably even on current form but a fit on form Mitchell would be the star player on show. On the bench Wasps still going with a lot of internationals and will have an edge in the last 20.

Wasps in control at the set piece for me in this one and with that midfield will suffocate the Quins ball carriers on defence. Can’t see past a win for Arry’s lads in this one.

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London Irish 17 22 Newcastle Falcons

At the scrum I can see Newcastle with a slight edge due to Servat at hook. Issues at LH for Newcastle and TH for Irish for me. Alexander not in great form this year and Nel a penalty liability at the scrum. At the lineout POC will sneak a ball or two. The Irish engine room is pretty light on ball carrying for me. Back row battle to the Falcons for me. Think overall Irish maybe lacking a few carrying options in the pack.

In the halfbacks decent battle at scrumhalf but Newcastle a step up at FH. In the backs Irish lacking a bit of form in midfield and Basteraud not the strongest positionally in defence. It’s definitely a combo that could work with ball in hand though. Falcons currently shading with some better form. Back 3 good even battle with both sides solid on attack and defence. On the benches Irish with some good game changers to bring on in the backs but Newcastle with some world class forwards to come into the fray.

Can see Newcastle winning the forward battle in this one and smothering Irish on defence. With Evans at 10 and a stronger midfield see them picking up the win here.

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Northampton Saints 22 20 Worcester Warriors

Good battle at the scrum here with neither side getting on top for me. A more destructive scrummager at TH for Saints would have seen them cause problems. At lineout see Saints causing a few issues with a few more options and some better quality. In terms of grunt Worcester maybe edging with Hamilton but Saints much more mobile. In the back row battle its fairly tight. Better balance to Saints but a much better carrying threat from Worcester.

Half backs to Worcester for me. Ford a great talent but defence has been an issue at academy level for him never mind against fully fledged internationals. In the backs two hard running midfields from both sides. Defence not an issue for either midfield in this game (have noted on the homepage up against a faster more creative centre think Tuilagi’s positioning can be shown up). Back 3 battle maybe just shading to Saints here with some bigger names. On the bench Saints with a lot more impact to bring on.

Good fair battle between two evenly matched sides here but with a lot more on the bench for Saints to bring on can see them winning this game in the last 10/20 minutes.

Gloucester 25-23 Leicester

Another good up front battle with Leicester having a little more in the scrum. Strong engine rooms but think Gloucester take both, although Bakkies lacks a bit of form he's still quality. Really tight
backrow battle, prefer Leicester 6/7 but Gloucester shade 8 just. Pretty tight pack battle.

One a piece in halfbacks but shading with Gloucester with Genia in special form. Flood over Donald by a fair but more so Genia/Youngs. Tough to separate midfield with no form for Gloucester (although class in Barnes) and class as 12 for Leicester and decent form but Molenaar the weakness slightly although a good AP player. Back 3 sides to Leicester with better wings but Gloucester stronger FB.

Real close affair again but see Gloucester just edging it with a little more, 2 belting teams though.

Wasps 27-22 Quins

See Wasps putting pressure on scrum time but Quins offering more around the park with ball in hand. Slight lack of form for Quins in engine room but in class they take the Wasps pair. Wasps edge backrow too with a good trio with a nice balance. Vernon/Henry weren't in best of form late season and prefer Dowson 6/8 but nothing major here and still a strong backrow that would give teams trouble. Slight edge in pack to Wasps.

Halfbacks to Wasps, Kelleher/Claassens pretty close with Kells lack of form (be fine when he starts playing, big fan) but Gopperth on a totally different level to Burns. Fan of Lowe at 13 but Wasps centre pairing class above, Kefu not great. Hard to split the back 3's with Mitchell the standout and Roko off the back off a decent season.

Wasps with slightly better pack and stronger in halfbacks and centres give them win.

Saints 18-18 Worcester

Front row pretty tight but front 5 shading to Saints with more proven class. Think Saints have a good lineout backrow to help no real lineout guy in engine room but Worcester's 3 are slightly the better players. Good pack battle.

Simpson shades the 9's but Robinson on different level to Ford who's possibly not up to this level yet. 2 good centre pairing shading to Saints in class but McCabe the better 12 in form. Hard to call back 3's with Halfpenny lacking form.

Odd game this one as I think a better 10 and Saints have it by a score but hard to rate Ford when he's played no top class games (ok in LV but against second string sides mostly) if he gets game time for Leicester his rating will go up.

Saracens 23-21 Sale

Big big front row battle. If Jones was in form I think Sarries would edge in scrum but don't think we'd see move in set piece. Bit more in loose for Sarries though. Engine room to Sale,
Nallet/Chulski pretty close but Bekker ahead of Borths for me. Close backrows, Pickles/JVN very close, Vito edges Wood but Dus offering more than Todd. Shades to Sarries. Not 100% with balance of Sarries backrow, think Dus and Wood have very similar styles...just can't put my finger
on it at the minute.

Fantastic halfback battle, one a piece but two v good combo's. Not a massive fan of FTD on Int
scene but he looks to be getting better and finished season v well. Again it's kind of one a piece in centres. Not sure Spence is 100% up to this level yet but he's really coming along, I personally need to see a bit more from him. Bit more for Sarries in back 3.

Good game but Sarries have slight edge.

Pete....

Not sure of balance of backrow esp in flanks. Think I need to dwell on that one a little. Spence needs more game time although looks a real talent, if strongest XV I'd look at other options till he come good.

Johnny.....big fan of Schuster, very powerful scrummager and will hold own v most. On centres I prefer your Hook/Fruen combo if an option although Barkley/Fruen has a nice look to it but perhaps lacking Int quality against stronger pairings. Backrow balance nice, 3 good players.

My sincerest apologies for no explanations haven't got time as am having to rush out. Shouldn't have d i c k e d around with the Oz NZ thing before this. Will try and get them done tomorrow.Slap on the wrists for me.

Bath 23- 27 Exeter

Gloucester 24 - 22 Leicester

London Irish 19 - 23 Newcastle

Northampton 31 - 28 Worcester

Saracens 24 - 21 Sale

My apologies again for no descriptions. Will try tomorrow

My predos will be tomorrow have busy day and off out for the England game in the pub

Bath 20-22 Exeter

Glos 25-21 Tigers

Wasps 20-20 Quins

Irish 15-20 Falcons

Sarries 20-18 Sale

Bath 20-22 Exeter

Exeter backrow win it

Wasps 24-24 Quins

Irish 13-21 Falcons

Sarries 20-14 Sale


Will post explanations later have almost zerO battery

Do you not like me Matt?!

Sorry prop used Your scores and then added what i though were the scores and missed yours.

Saints 29 27 worcestr

I would let you off but you gave me a loss :p

Sarries 20 14 sale. 2 good teams and excellent packs. Pete has an exceptional backrow that had great balance. Think Todd is a bit of a weakness at 7 when up against dusatoir or wood who are top players.

A great game and sarries have some good hard runners in the backs who can cause problems. I see earls, strettle and Rooney as not great defenders and think nonu and ioane etc could give them prOblems. Not seen enough of Rooney to rate him. Likewise for spence. 13 has been Petes achilles heel for a while and spence needs to play well in some high profile games to get rated.

Feedback on your team pete would be great 2 and 3 unsure over corbs still.

Nallet gives grunt but borths average. Top back row and tried and trusted halfbacks.

Good backline but you need another ballplayer in it. Lots of hard direct runners but Goode aside not much sublety. Need another footballer in there in my opinion

Bath 25-28 Exeter - backrow for Exeter stronger and like balance of their midfield. Not biggest fan of Steyn, seems to slow down the flow of a game.

Glos 31 - 27 Tigers - great pack for Mat and good balance to backline. Think Gloucester have a great bench that really swings it. Think Young would get schooled by Genia.

Wasps 24-26 Quins - in wet, wintery conditions I would have gone for Wasps, who are going to be very difficult to beat during November-February. But Quins have a bit more energy around them, which is key.

Irish 19-23 Falcons - much prefer Irish 11-15, great balance and will attack Falcons and give them a torrid time. But think Falcons have stronger front five and Nick Evans can keep scoreboard ticking over. Irish out score on try front but Falcons get the win.

Sarries 27-26 Sale - think Sarries have more strength on the pitch, really good team - but my big issue is that apart from Nonu and Ioane I dont know where the tries are coming from in that backline - not Cueto or Goode and Spence is a few years off being a top player at this level and he wont break down the big defence. In wet conditions Sarries are fine, but in dry and sunny I cant see them scoring lots of tries.

Glos 19 Tigers 17

Wasps 22 Quins 20

Irish 10 Falcons 13

Sarries 18 Sale 18

Saints 22 Warriors 20

Bath 21 - 23 Exeter

Wasps 28 - 24 Quins

Irish 15 - 22 Falcons

Sarries 26 - 22 Sale

Saints 25 - 20 Worcester

Sorry, didn't predict been manic weekend, will make sure I do next week.

And your meant to be a good example as a mod

He has moved on to better things prop. He will be banning some of our posts from now on!!!

being a Mod has gone to his head. he is drunk on power

Lol. I don't have Mod access on the sports gaming board, I can only mod things on the rugby board so you're all safe over here.

anonmattyt wrote:He has moved on to better things prop. He will be banning some of our posts from now on!!!

Best predict wins for Saracens then!!

I think that's the best idea you've had since you joined the game prop! lol

Does that get me bonus poitns every match?!