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Post by Union Cane Tue 16 Aug 2011, 9:43 am

First topic message reminder :

Union Cane's Prediction Cup - Test Event

I'm toying with the idea of running a knockout cup competition alongside the new Premiership / Championship Prediction Leagues, this is just a test event to iron out any potential problems with the stadia and transport network et cetera.

The idea is to use Wednesday Night Fights for the cup competition, this will mean a limited choice and a lot of unheard of fighters, so it might fall flat on its face, but if it doesn't work I'll know not to bother with it when the next season kicks off.

So, I need 16 volunteers for the test event, once we have the 16 I will do the draw and then put the fights up for you to predict.

1. Michaels, Sean
2. Mind the windows Tino.
3. Fists of Fury
4. coxy0001
5. alma
6. Union Cane
7. bhb001
8. Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn
9. The Galveston Giant
10. Il Gialloblu
11. sodhat
12. rowley
13. 6oldenbhoy
14. oxring
15. bellchees
16. JJJohnson

First Round

Michaels, Sean 5
JJJohnson 4
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alma 5
rowley 2
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bhb001 4
Il Gialloblu 0
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Fists of Fury 4
oxring 4
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coxy0001 3
6oldenbhoy 4
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Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn 6
The Galveston Giant 5
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Union Cane 3
sodhat 4
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Mind the windows Tino. 2
bellchees 3

We are heading over to Manila for Round One, an exciting evening of boxing at Eastwood Central Plaza.

1. Lowie Bantigue v. Jeffrey Cerna (12) - Jeffrey Cerna W SD
2. Rodel Quilaton v. Jetro Pabustan (10) - Technical Draw
3. Bobby Concepcion v. Ronnie Rex Dalot (10) - Draw
4. Rennel Flechero v. Jessie Blanca Mabert Paulino (8)
5. Karlo Maguinto v. Armin Columna Edwin Mondala (6)

6. Nino Valenzuela v. Dodoy Alapormina (6) - Nino Valenzuela W MD
7. Macrea Gandiongco v. Mardi Zulita (4) - Macrea Gandiongco W TKO4 (LKO)

Rules and scoring are the same as the Prediction League, if scores are tied there will be a replay using Thursday night's action from Miedzyzdroje, Poland.

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First Round Replay

Fists of Fury 13
oxring 11

Just one replay required, I'm making up the rules as I go along so if there is a further draw then whoever posts their predictions first will go through.

Fights for the replay as follows :

1. Krzysztof Glowacki v. Roman Kracik (10) - Krzysztof Glowacki W TKO9 (LKO)
2. Ismail Teboev v. Robert Swierzbinski (8) - Robert Swierzbinski W UD
3. Lukasz Wawrzyczek v. Steven Kuechler (6) - Lukasz Wawrzyczek W TKO3 (EKO)
4. Krzysztof Chudecki v. Marcen Gierke (4) - Krzysztof Chudecki W UD
5. Daniel Urbanski v. Sebastian Skrzypczynski (4) - Sebastian Skrzypczynski W TKO3 (LKO)

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Quarter-Finals

Michaels, Sean 1
alma 6
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bhb001 4
Fists of Fury 3
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6oldenbhoy 1
Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn 5
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sodhat 4
bellchees 3

Struggling for fights for this Wednesday's Quarter-Finals, the only action on offer is a four fight card at the Basaten Youth Center Maadi, Cairo, Egypt. The most experienced of the fighters is Hany Atiyo, this will be his tenth professional contest.

1. Hany Atiyo v. Mahmoud Suleiman (12) - Hany Atiyo W PTS
2. Atef Mohamed v. Mohamed Izad (10) - Atef Mohamed W RTD9 (LKO)
3. Amuro Atiyo v. Anshraf Samir (10) - Anshraf Samir W TKO5 (EKO)
4. Mohamed Gaabary v. Omar Magdy Mohamed (6)

No replays required this week!

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Semi-Finals

alma 16
bhb001 13
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Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn 0
sodhat 20

We're off to Australia and Japan for the Semi Finals, could you please get those predictions in by 17:00 on Tuesday next week.

1. Jamie Pittman v. Serge Yannick (12) - Serge Yannick W TKO2 (EKO)
2. Daniel Geale v. Eromosele Albert (12) - Daniel Geale W UD
3. Reynaldo Belandres v. Joel Brunker (8) - Joel Brunker W UD
4. Steve Heremaia v. Steve Maxwell (6)
5. Mostyn Niemann v. Rhys King (6) - Mostyn Niemann W TKO2 (EKO)
6. Gary Brown v. Steve Lovett (4) - Steve Lovett W TKO2 (EKO)
7. Koki Kameda v. David De la Mora (12) - Koki Kameda W UD
8. Hugo Fidel Cazares v. Tomonobu Shimizu (12) - Tomonobu Shimizu W SD
9. Hiroshi Nakamori v. Takehiro Saito (8) - Hiroshi Nakamori W KO1 (EKO)

Congratulations to our two finalists, some really excellent predicting there and a couple of very respectable scores.

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The Final

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We are going on a five day trip around the world for The Final, visiting all four corners of the globe.

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The fights are as follows :

A - Sunday 4th September - Tanzania
1. Bakari Mohamed v. Ramadhani Shauri (8) - Ramadhani Shauri W PTS
2. Herman Richard v. Sadat Miyeyusho (4)
3. Issa Omari v. Kade Hamis (4) - Draw
4. Joseph Peter v. Mbwana Ally (4)
5. Mwaite Juma v. Franky Purry (4) - Mwaite Juma W PTS
6. Yahya Mkumbukwa v. Shafii Ramadhani (4)

Injury and illness decimated the line up (I should think), and only 3 fights survived, one of which was drawn. Alma scores an impressive 8 points, having predicted both remaining fights would end in decisions, whilst sodhat scores a solitary 1 point for predicting that Shauri would beat Mohamed. That's quite a lead after the first card, has alma got this in the bag already?

alma 8
sodhat 1


B - Monday 5th September - Dominican Republic
7. Vladimir Baez v. Ramon Duran (12)
8. Jean Carlos Prada v. David Toribio (9) - Jean Carlos Prada W TD6 (58-56 / 58-56 / 56-58) SD

alma 9
sodhat 3

C - Tuesday 6th September - Thailand
9. Hongfah Tor Buamas (F) v. Kazumi Izaki (F) (10 x 2) - Hongfah Tor Buamas W UD
10. Teerachai Kratingdaenggym v. Dan Nazareno Jr (12) - Teerachai Kratingdaenggym W UD

Both finalists getting both fights spot on, 8 points each.

alma 17
sodhat 11

D - Wednesday 7th September - Japan
11. Akihiro Kondo v. Masayoshi Kotake (8) - Draw

Nobody picked the draw, scores remain the same going into the big finale...

alma 17
sodhat 11

E - Thursday 8th September - Panama
12. Chanttall Martinez (F) v. Marylin Hernandez (F) (10 x 2) - Chanttall Martinez W UD
13. Vicente Mosquera v. Loel Barrantes (8) - Vicente Mosquera W TKO5 (LKO)
14. Irving Berry v. Miguel Aguilar (8)
15. Manuel Vides v. Humberto Pena (8) - Manuel Vides W UD
16. Rolando Giono v. Javier Coronado (8) - Rolando Giono W SD
17. Jenifel Vicente v. Adolfo Ramos (6)
18. Addir Sanchez v. Daniel Mulgrave (6) - Addir Sanchez W UD

Some excellent predicting again in the final card of fights, alma adding 17 points to his score and sodhat adding 15.

Final Result

alma 34
sodhat 26


Congratulations to the Union Cane's Prediction Cup Winner, alma!

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Post by coxy0001 Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:40 pm

Wow, a plethora of fighters i've never even heard of:

1. Lowie Bantigue UD
2. Rodel Quilaton UD
3. Bobby Concepcion UD
4. Rennel Flechero UD
5. Karlo Maguinto UD
6. Nino Valenzuela UD
7. Macrea Gandiongco UD

I have a cunning tactic.....

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Post by Michaels, Sean Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:43 pm

Found it thanks. Boss nipped away for a second so could have a butchers.

Cerna pts
Concepcion pts
Pabustan pts
Flechero lko
Valenzuela pts
Maguinto eko
Gandiangco pts
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Post by bellchees Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:52 pm

Count me in if there's still space

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Post by Union Cane Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:55 pm

bellchees wrote:Count me in if there's still space

You're in.
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Post by bellchees Tue 16 Aug 2011, 2:56 pm

Union Cane wrote:
bellchees wrote:Count me in if there's still space

You're in.

Now to go look up who on earth any of these fighters are.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Tue 16 Aug 2011, 3:01 pm

bellchees wrote:
Union Cane wrote:
bellchees wrote:Count me in if there's still space

You're in.

Now to go look up who on earth any of these fighters are.

Don't even bother bellchees. You might as well just give me the verdict.

Save yourself the embarrassment my friend.

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Post by coxy0001 Tue 16 Aug 2011, 3:02 pm

bellchees wrote:
Union Cane wrote:
bellchees wrote:Count me in if there's still space

You're in.

Now to go look up who on earth any of these fighters are.

I've just guessed to be honest

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Post by The Galveston Giant Tue 16 Aug 2011, 3:05 pm

Yeah me too
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Post by bhb001 Tue 16 Aug 2011, 3:12 pm

Bantique, KO, early
Pabustan, Pts, UD
Conception, PTS, UD
Flechero, KO, Late
Culumna, Pts, UD
Valenzuela, Pts, UD,
Gandiongco, Ko, Early

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Post by Michaels, Sean Tue 16 Aug 2011, 3:20 pm


My lawyers will be in touch.
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Post by JJJohnson Tue 16 Aug 2011, 3:26 pm

Any space left?

I wouldnt mind giving this a shot.

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Post by coxy0001 Tue 16 Aug 2011, 3:27 pm


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Post by Union Cane Tue 16 Aug 2011, 3:42 pm

JJJohnson wrote:Any space left?

I wouldnt mind giving this a shot.

You're in sir, although that could be considered akin to getting the last place on the Titanic.
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Post by Fists of Fury Tue 16 Aug 2011, 3:47 pm

1. Lowie Bantigue LKO
2. Rodel Quilaton UD
3. Bobby Concepcion UD
4. Rennel Flechero UD
5. Karlo Maguinto UD
6. Nino Valenzuela UD
7. Macrea Gandiongco EKO

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Tue 16 Aug 2011, 3:50 pm

So does your chart mean I am playing the winner between you and sodhat in the next round?

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Post by Michaels, Sean Tue 16 Aug 2011, 3:50 pm

As the top seed i was just wondering if the seedings only apply for the first round draw?
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Post by Union Cane Tue 16 Aug 2011, 3:55 pm

Yes, it is a seeded draw so you will be losing to me in round two, windows.

I'll see you in the final, Michaels.
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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Tue 16 Aug 2011, 3:57 pm

Union Cane wrote:Yes, it is a seeded draw so you will be losing to me in round two, windows.

I'll see you in the final, Michaels.

Great. Thanks for clearing it up.

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Post by coxy0001 Tue 16 Aug 2011, 4:01 pm

Union Cane wrote:Yes, it is a seeded draw so you will be losing to me in round two, windows.

I'll see you in the final, Michaels.

Why aren't i #1 based on being the best predictor then? Fact.

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Post by Michaels, Sean Tue 16 Aug 2011, 4:02 pm

Oh God. That means I get the miserable old sod rowley in round 2.......
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Post by JJJohnson Tue 16 Aug 2011, 4:05 pm

Cheers pal.

1.Bantigue LKO
2.Pabutsan UD
3.Conception UD
4.Flechero UD
5.Maguinto EKO
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Post by Union Cane Tue 16 Aug 2011, 4:07 pm

Due to the ad hoc nature of the way this started, the seedings on this occasion do not reflect the ability (or lack thereof) of the contestants concerned.

I figured it was better to do a seeded draw than sit here at my desk picking numbered bits of paper out of my coffee mug looking like a right plum.

Rest assured, seedings for the tournament proper will be based on final finishing positions in the League, so you will more than likely be #2 coxy.


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Post by Rowley Tue 16 Aug 2011, 4:09 pm

Michaels, Sean wrote:Oh God. That means I get the miserable old sod rowley in round 2.......

Brave assumption you will be in round two Sean, guess you've got a chance as this competition is more guess work than actual boxing knowledge

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Tue 16 Aug 2011, 4:11 pm

Wow, this is all getting a little feisty.

Coxy is ducking me and alma is on PED's.

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Post by Rowley Tue 16 Aug 2011, 4:11 pm

No offence meant Alma, but you've drawn Barcelona, your destruction is all but assured.

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Post by Michaels, Sean Tue 16 Aug 2011, 4:12 pm

alma wrote:
rowley wrote:
Michaels, Sean wrote:Oh God. That means I get the miserable old sod rowley in round 2.......

Brave assumption you will be in round two Sean, guess you've got a chance as this competition is more guess work than actual boxing knowledge

I'm quite offended by the assumption I'll fall by the wayside early doors

As Jeff says, its more luck than boxing knowledge OK
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Post by coxy0001 Tue 16 Aug 2011, 4:15 pm

Luck/guesswork: 99%

Knowledge: 1%

That's based on having done zero research. The 1% comes about for correctly stating EKO/UD etc and knowing what their respective abbreviations mean.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Tue 16 Aug 2011, 4:16 pm

coxy0001 wrote:Luck/guesswork: 99%

Knowledge: 1%

That's based on having done zero research. The 1% comes about for correctly stating EKO/UD etc and knowing what their respective abbreviations mean.

Ducker.

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Post by coxy0001 Tue 16 Aug 2011, 4:20 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
coxy0001 wrote:Luck/guesswork: 99%

Knowledge: 1%

That's based on having done zero research. The 1% comes about for correctly stating EKO/UD etc and knowing what their respective abbreviations mean.

Ducker.

Take the test.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Tue 16 Aug 2011, 4:21 pm

coxy0001 wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
coxy0001 wrote:Luck/guesswork: 99%

Knowledge: 1%

That's based on having done zero research. The 1% comes about for correctly stating EKO/UD etc and knowing what their respective abbreviations mean.

Ducker.

Take the test.

Scared of needles.

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Post by bellchees Tue 16 Aug 2011, 7:11 pm

Bantigue - UD
Pabustan - UD
Concepcion - UD
Flechero - UD
Maguinto - EKO
Valenzuela - UD
Gandiongco - UD

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Post by oxring Wed 17 Aug 2011, 8:29 am

1. Bantigue TKO
2. Rodel Quilaton UD
3. Bobby Concepcion TKO
4. Rennel Flechero UD
5. Karlo Maguinto UD
6. Nino Valenzuela UD
7. Macrea Gandiongco TKO
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Post by Union Cane Wed 17 Aug 2011, 8:54 am

oxring wrote:1. Bantigue TKO
2. Rodel Quilaton UD
3. Bobby Concepcion TKO
4. Rennel Flechero UD
5. Karlo Maguinto UD
6. Nino Valenzuela UD
7. Macrea Gandiongco TKO

You need to predict Early (first half) or Late (second half) for your TKO's please mate!
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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Wed 17 Aug 2011, 8:57 am

"I'll be laughing when Rennel Flechero eases to a comfortable points win. And he's only 19!"

alma, you have seriously looked this up? Your dedication is to be admired!

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Post by 6oldenbhoy Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:58 am

Bantigue LKO
Concepcion UD
Pabustan UD
Flechero UD
Maguinto UD
Valenzuela UD
Gandiongco EKO

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Post by Union Cane Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:05 am

That's everybody's predictions in then (apart from oxring's E's and L's).

Just noticed that Lowie Bantigue has 7 draws. Might have missed a trick there.

Anyway, too late to do anthing about it now, good luck!!
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Post by Michaels, Sean Wed 17 Aug 2011, 1:50 pm

Union, with it being 20.50pm in Manilla, I presume you'll be giving us live updates from here on in?
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Post by Union Cane Wed 17 Aug 2011, 1:53 pm

I have been scouring the TV listings but can't find anything.
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Post by Michaels, Sean Wed 17 Aug 2011, 1:54 pm

Union Cane wrote:I have been scouring the TV listings but can't find anything.

Primetime not showing it?
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Post by Union Cane Wed 17 Aug 2011, 2:00 pm

Michaels, Sean wrote:
Union Cane wrote:I have been scouring the TV listings but can't find anything.

Primetime not showing it?

Sadly not, they are re-running some witless cage-fighting for £10 a pop.

I'll sit here refreshing boxrec, not quite the same as being there but it'll do.
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Post by Rowley Wed 17 Aug 2011, 2:04 pm

Union Cane wrote:
Michaels, Sean wrote:
Union Cane wrote:I have been scouring the TV listings but can't find anything.

Primetime not showing it?

Sadly not, they are re-running some witless cage-fighting for £10 a pop.

I'll sit here refreshing boxrec, not quite the same as being there but it'll do.

Does this mean I will not get chance to win a Lowey Bantigue T shirt, damn it

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Post by Union Cane Wed 17 Aug 2011, 2:09 pm

Just noticed that two of the fighters have been replaced, Rennel Flechero is now fighting Mabert Paulino instead of Jessie Blanca, and Armin Columna has dropped out of his fight with Karlo Maguinto and has been replaced by Edwin Mondola.

In accordance with the rules, these two fights are now void.
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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Wed 17 Aug 2011, 2:17 pm

Why not just use the new fighters for the results? No-one knows who any of them are anyway.

If people have actually done any research, then more fool them.

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Post by Union Cane Wed 17 Aug 2011, 2:19 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Why not just use the new fighters for the results? No-one knows who any of them are anyway.

If people have actually done any research, then more fool them.

Could do I suppose.

Any objections?
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Post by Rowley Wed 17 Aug 2011, 2:22 pm

Yes I have the rules are the rules and I expect you to stick with them, honestly with how upset you got with Tshirtgate cannot believe you would even begin to consider disregarding the published rules in this manner. The sooner Young Trouser reappears to set up an alternative tournament the better

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Wed 17 Aug 2011, 2:24 pm

Union, I think Jeff is only objecting because it is me who suggested it. We have fallen out on another thread and he clearly has a grudge now.

Anyway, you do what you feel is correct Mr Cane. It is your dream, we are just living in it.

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Post by Rowley Wed 17 Aug 2011, 2:27 pm

Been waiting for an excuse Tino since you overtook me on the footy, overtaking my lead was one thing but asking for the scores to be re-published just so everyone could see you had overtaken me was a step too far, a line was crossed with that one.

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Post by Union Cane Wed 17 Aug 2011, 2:27 pm

This is only a test event remember, I am trying out new and fresh ideas.

If ignoring replacements annoys you then say so, I will take it on board when finalising the set up of the competition proper.

The overall impression I'm getting is that the midweek knockout cup idea is not going to work, as the quality and celebrity status of your average Wednesday night boxer is not up to the standard required.
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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Wed 17 Aug 2011, 2:34 pm

rowley wrote:Been waiting for an excuse Tino since you overtook me on the footy, overtaking my lead was one thing but asking for the scores to be re-published just so everyone could see you had overtaken me was a step too far, a line was crossed with that one.

Whoa there Jeff. You started it by gloating about being in second place on Union's other prediction league. Not that it bothered me you'll understand.

Keep going Union. All the greatest trees start from small seeds.


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Post by sodhat Wed 17 Aug 2011, 2:35 pm

sodhat wrote:1. Lowie Bantigue v. Jeffrey Cerna (12) Cerna LKO
2. Rodel Quilaton v. Jetro Pabustan (10) Pabustan UD
3. Bobby Concepcion v. Ronnie Rex Dalot (10) Concepcion LKO
4. Rennel Flechero v. Jessie Blanca (8) Flechero UD
5. Karlo Maguinto v. Armin Columna (6) Maguinto EKO
6. Nino Valenzuela v. Dodoy Alapormina (6) Valenzuela UD
7. Macrea Gandiongco v. Mardi Zulita (4) Gandiongco UD

Some quality blind picking here!

As per predictions above, but with both Flechero and Maguinto beating their new opponents by UD.

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