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Post by azumah HOF Wed 24 Aug 2011, 3:13 pm

TAKING A LOOK AT HBO'S RING LIFE, FLOYD LOOKS GREAT PHYSICALLY AND CRUCIALLY MENTALLY. I THINK THE BOUY WANTS TO MAKE A STATEMENT IN THIS FIGHT! I CANT WAIT!!!
ORTIZ IS TOUGH, ALL RESPECT TO HIM, BUT IS HE SMART ENOUGH? I ALSO PREDICT AS I DID AGAINST SUGAR SHANE THAT FLOYD WILL BE THE PHYSICALLY STRONGER MAN IN THE RING AND THAT REALISATION WILL DISORIENTATE ORTIZ. WATCH THE HBO PIECE BELOW!

http://aol.sportingnews.com/sport/story/2011-08-24/floyd-mayweather-describes-his-first-championship


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Post by John Bloody Wayne Wed 24 Aug 2011, 3:16 pm

RAWR!!

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Post by Daz Wed 24 Aug 2011, 3:18 pm

Long time no see Zoomy!

Mayweather all the way. Ortiz will be in tears after the fight or maybe even during!

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Wed 24 Aug 2011, 3:21 pm

Floyd seems like he wants to prove a point which doesn't bode well for Ortiz who is out his depth at this level lets not forget he quit against Maidana who can punch but do very little else apart from walk forward.
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Post by Daz Wed 24 Aug 2011, 3:26 pm

Although Ortiz seems to have found new strength...he is going in against the ultimate test. Doesnt bode well for him I'm afraid.

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Post by azumah HOF Wed 24 Aug 2011, 3:59 pm

Hey Dazz how u doing fella! nice to see all you guys fine and well and running what seems like a decent forum!
yeh agreed the scary thing for me is the mental focus! looking at him i am now convinced that this is all about the big one, Manny! I think what we are seeing is a mental and psychological tune up that will take him straight into a fight with Manny, barring any of those banana skins boxing likes to throw up!!!
And lets get one thing right Floyd aint gonna run, his gonna walk this boy down! I said he would stay in the box against Mosley and ppl laughed me off the old forum!
Since Oscar i have spoken consistently about this man stength Floyd has grown into and the increased physical confidence this is giving him in the ring! the jab is going to be in evidence, he is going to walk this guy down at some point in the fight and he is going for a KO!

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Post by Daz Wed 24 Aug 2011, 4:06 pm

I'm doing well thanks mate - dont see you often enough on here these days causing mischeif! Where are you hiding these days? Still on ESB?

Yeah I agree mate. Floyd will be the agressor in this one I feel. I reckon its a southpaw tune up also. Floyd looks very determined. The big fight will happen next year. Possibly mid to late 2012. It WILL happen!!

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Post by Rowley Wed 24 Aug 2011, 4:10 pm

I actually agree this is leading up to the big one Zoomy. Floyd is an enigma for me seems to have phases where he flirts between being wildly in love with the game and falling out with it, genuinely think at the minute he is very much in the former and this speaks well for the chances of getting the fight we all want.

Also think once both have disposed of their upcoming fights what is left. Think neither are too keen on going above welter again and there isn't too much at light welter that sets the pulses racing, particularly as for Manny Cotto is old ground and at light welter Bradley can't draw fliles and Khan is not really ready.

Tend to agree also that Floyd will stay in the pocket, realise Mosley had seen better days but he could still dig and still had some hand speed, if he can stay in their with Shane will have no fear doing similar against a guy far less cute than Shane.

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Post by captain carrantuohil Wed 24 Aug 2011, 4:11 pm

Zoomy, I think that you may want to check out next week's five candidates for the 606 v2 Hall of Fame, when your man Azumah will be one of the fighters up for selection.

As to Mayweather-Ortiz, I've never doubted that Floyd will have far too much for Ortiz, who is decent, but no better than that. I admire the general faith that Floyd-Pacquiao can be made, mind you. It's almost too late now - any hitch will make it almost meaningless; we can't wait until they're both nearly 40.

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Post by Daz Wed 24 Aug 2011, 4:14 pm

captain carrantuohil wrote:Zoomy, I think that you may want to check out next week's five candidates for the 606 v2 Hall of Fame, when your man Azumah will be one of the fighters up for selection.

As to Mayweather-Ortiz, I've never doubted that Floyd will have far too much for Ortiz, who is decent, but no better than that. I admire the general faith that Floyd-Pacquiao can be made, mind you. It's almost too late now - any hitch will make it almost meaningless; we can't wait until they're both nearly 40.

It CAN be made! We live in hope Captain!

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Post by captain carrantuohil Wed 24 Aug 2011, 4:21 pm

Let optimism reign unconfined, dazstarr! I shall quietly keep my fingers crossed.

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 24 Aug 2011, 4:28 pm

I, like you, feel that it may already be too late in terms of a prime Floyd vs a prime Manny. I have the horrible feeling that one of them is just going to be that bit off the pace which will cost them dearly.

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Post by azumah HOF Wed 24 Aug 2011, 4:30 pm

Ah the good Cap'n! How are you sir?!! Yes i will defintely tune in to hopefully see the induction of the great African Warrior into your hall of fame........ surely no one dare put up an objection furious lol

I hope the other great african man sausage Tiger is already in or due for consideration!

I did scan today and see the votes at middleweight pound for pound and you will not be shocked to know i had a fit looking at some of the ill conceived judgements of my her Hagler...... some know it all actually described him essentially as a a great chin and will and nothing else!!!! Shocking.... terrible and shocking!!!

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Post by azumah HOF Wed 24 Aug 2011, 4:32 pm

Dazstarr wrote:I'm doing well thanks mate - dont see you often enough on here these days causing mischeif! Where are you hiding these days? Still on ESB?

Yeah I agree mate. Floyd will be the agressor in this one I feel. I reckon its a southpaw tune up also. Floyd looks very determined. The big fight will happen next year. Possibly mid to late 2012. It WILL happen!!

This board has been great - some good Q&A's with boxers also!

Dazz.... yeh the work schedule has been busy of late hence my inactivity and yes my firts port of call is still ESB!!! Some real ijiots on ther but many great posters! and u know me .... i'm not adverse to a ruck or two boxing saying that whers my lil American friend!!!! (erm just joking Trussy!!)

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Post by captain carrantuohil Wed 24 Aug 2011, 4:34 pm

Tiger's up for consideration about five weeks hence, zoomy. At the moment, there's a pretty big debate about another man of Africa, Brian Mitchell, and whether he belongs or not.

Watch that blood pressure by the way. Go and watch a clip of Hagler battering Sibson, and all will be well again.

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Post by azumah HOF Wed 24 Aug 2011, 4:38 pm

captain carrantuohil wrote:Tiger's up for consideration about six weeks hence, zoomy. At the moment, there's a pretty big debate about another man of Africa, Brian Mitchell, and whether he belongs or not.

Watch that blood pressure by the way. Go and watch a clip of Hagler battering Sibson, and all will be well again.

hahahaha!!! as it goes i was watching Marv versus Autofermo one and two yesterday late on the laptop! my mates missus complains about him sneaking off to watch porn on the PC..... my missus thinks ive got a fetish muscular mean bald black men Hug

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Post by captain carrantuohil Wed 24 Aug 2011, 4:42 pm

The difference between Marv first time and second time is astronomical. No doubt in my mind that actually winning the title took Hagler to a different galaxy, where all the self-confidence in the world was present, all the slights were a thing of the past and he could properly express himself.

Antuofermo I - Hagler's poorest ever outing. Antuofermo II - Marv at his ruthless best.

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Post by Rowley Wed 24 Aug 2011, 4:51 pm

May have to add a review of Sugar Ray Leonard's book to the reviews section, am sure that will be one Zoomy is eager to read Whistle

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Post by azumah HOF Wed 24 Aug 2011, 4:55 pm

rowley wrote:May have to add a review of Sugar Ray Leonard's book to the reviews section, am sure that will be one Zoomy is eager to read Whistle

why does someone always have to pull Ray out of their behind when i'm having a great day!!!!! lol! You know actually i have long since come to a happy place with Ray...... Hate the man, got to respect the legend!!! Having said that We all know who won the fight!!! Yahoo

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Post by Fists of Fury Wed 24 Aug 2011, 4:57 pm

azumah HOF wrote:Ah the good Cap'n! How are you sir?!! Yes i will defintely tune in to hopefully see the induction of the great African Warrior into your hall of fame........ surely no one dare put up an objection Floyd looks ready - Ortiz is in trouble!!! 177851 lol

I hope the other great african man sausage Tiger is already in or due for consideration!

I did scan today and see the votes at middleweight pound for pound and you will not be shocked to know i had a fit looking at some of the ill conceived judgements of my her Hagler...... some know it all actually described him essentially as a a great chin and will and nothing else!!!! Shocking.... terrible and shocking!!!



There is the swear filter at it's embarassing worst...man sausage Tiger indeed.

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Post by Waingro Wed 24 Aug 2011, 6:00 pm

Ortiz will get absolutely destroyed i dont reckon he will win a round. Mayweather should fight bad so Pacquiao mans up and fights him after lol.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Wed 24 Aug 2011, 6:41 pm

azumah HOF wrote:Ah the good Cap'n! How are you sir?!! Yes i will defintely tune in to hopefully see the induction of the great African Warrior into your hall of fame........ surely no one dare put up an objection furious lol

I hope the other great african man sausage Tiger is already in or due for consideration!

I did scan today and see the votes at middleweight pound for pound and you will not be shocked to know i had a fit looking at some of the ill conceived judgements of my her Hagler...... some know it all actually described him essentially as a a great chin and will and nothing else!!!! Shocking.... terrible and shocking!!!

Get your votes in for all the divisions then Zoomy, wont be posting until I have at least 15 votes for each one

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 24 Aug 2011, 9:20 pm

Can't always tell how great a fighter's condition is by sight.......

Fact is the guy keeps having long layoffs and isn't a young man anymore...

One of these days he gets found out...Just hope it isn't against Khan or Manny..

As for Ortiz think he's pretty ordinary and shouldn't be a problem...

You never know though....Floyd will suffer from his ring rust sooner or later and be there for the taking..but probably not yet!!

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Post by Daz Thu 25 Aug 2011, 8:34 am

I think Floyd is a bit too savvy to continue after his skills have faded. I reckon he has got 2/3 more fights left in him before he throws the towel in for good. 4 more fights at a push.

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Post by azumah HOF Thu 25 Aug 2011, 12:22 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Can't always tell how great a fighter's condition is by sight.......

Fact is the guy keeps having long layoffs and isn't a young man anymore...

One of these days he gets found out...Just hope it isn't against Khan or Manny..

As for Ortiz think he's pretty ordinary and shouldn't be a problem...

You never know though....Floyd will suffer from his ring rust sooner or later and be there for the taking..but probably not yet!!

Point taken! However a bit like Dazz said Floyd is his own greatest critic and he is very candid about how he feels. He has admitted that at the beginnignof camp he was a bit too rusty for his liking and his sharpness was off! Howver about 2 weeks ago he said everyone in camp now felt he was looking razor sharp. However he felt he ther was more to come..... thats bad news for Ortiz... it is Floyds vanity and ego that pushes him to contionoulsy up it in training. Howvere where i do agree is that to allow anothe lay off before a Manny fight would harm him at this stage in his career! I have afeeling that this now feels like an intensity of mind set that will see him in the gym right up to a fight with Manny! BTW his cast of sparring partners is awesome... great prep, and to be doing 6 to 12 mins nonstop and rotating guys like Ouma and Petreson in there is really impressive!

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Post by Rowley Thu 25 Aug 2011, 12:26 pm

Think his preparation in the gym is one thing you will never have to worry about. Remember the old editor of Boxing News Claude Abraham watched one of Floyd's sessions and said in 30 years of being around gyms he had never seen anyone who trains like Floyd, said the intensity was phenomenal.

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Post by azumah HOF Thu 25 Aug 2011, 1:18 pm

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content10608.html

Latest from within the camp, from Deandre Latimore,junior mid contender and one of the chief sparring partners!

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Post by Scottrf Thu 25 Aug 2011, 1:26 pm

24/7 at the weekend!

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Post by azumah HOF Thu 25 Aug 2011, 1:47 pm

Scottrf wrote:24/7 at the weekend!

Yeh cant wait!!!!!! is it true its primetime and not Sky shwoing it in the UK (the fight that is) if so how the hell did Sky let that one go!!!

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Post by Scottrf Thu 25 Aug 2011, 1:48 pm

azumah HOF wrote:Yeh cant wait!!!!!! is it true its primetime and not Sky shwoing it in the UK (the fight that is) if so how the hell did Sky let that one go!!!
Primetime willing to put it on PPV! That's about the long and short of it. Would have got less than 100k viewers on Sky I reckon so just wouldn't be worth it to outbid them.

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Post by Rowley Thu 25 Aug 2011, 1:49 pm

Perfectly true Zoomy, basically on the back of Sky downgrading Khan Mcloskey (because pre orders had been pitiful I should add) Golden Boy have had a bit of a falling out with Sky and took this one to Primetime, not great news as a fan because the coverage isn't as good and it is a fee on top of the sky subscription for every decent fight, being a boxing fan could be about to get pretty costly.

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Post by Scottrf Thu 25 Aug 2011, 1:50 pm

rowley wrote:Perfectly true Zoomy, basically on the back of Sky downgrading Khan Mcloskey (because pre orders had been pitiful I should add) Golden Boy have had a bit of a falling out with Sky and took this one to Primetime, not great news as a fan because the coverage isn't as good and it is a fee on top of the sky subscription for every decent fight, being a boxing fan could be about to get pretty costly.
As strange as it sounds, the Sky monopoly worked out quite well.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Thu 25 Aug 2011, 1:54 pm

Scottrf wrote:
rowley wrote:Perfectly true Zoomy, basically on the back of Sky downgrading Khan Mcloskey (because pre orders had been pitiful I should add) Golden Boy have had a bit of a falling out with Sky and took this one to Primetime, not great news as a fan because the coverage isn't as good and it is a fee on top of the sky subscription for every decent fight, being a boxing fan could be about to get pretty costly.
As strange as it sounds, the Sky monopoly worked out quite well.

How so?

£15 for a broadcast that is below the standard Sky have set and at the same cost?
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Post by Rowley Thu 25 Aug 2011, 1:55 pm

Scottrf wrote:
rowley wrote:Perfectly true Zoomy, basically on the back of Sky downgrading Khan Mcloskey (because pre orders had been pitiful I should add) Golden Boy have had a bit of a falling out with Sky and took this one to Primetime, not great news as a fan because the coverage isn't as good and it is a fee on top of the sky subscription for every decent fight, being a boxing fan could be about to get pretty costly.
As strange as it sounds, the Sky monopoly worked out quite well.

Got to agree Scott, at the minute you get to pay more for an inferior product, never a good thing.

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Post by Daz Thu 25 Aug 2011, 1:56 pm

azumah HOF wrote:
Scottrf wrote:24/7 at the weekend!

Yeh cant wait!!!!!! is it true its primetime and not Sky shwoing it in the UK (the fight that is) if so how the hell did Sky let that one go!!!

What channel will the 24/7 be on now that Sky wont be showing it? It is download only?

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Post by Scottrf Thu 25 Aug 2011, 1:57 pm

prettyboykev wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
rowley wrote:Perfectly true Zoomy, basically on the back of Sky downgrading Khan Mcloskey (because pre orders had been pitiful I should add) Golden Boy have had a bit of a falling out with Sky and took this one to Primetime, not great news as a fan because the coverage isn't as good and it is a fee on top of the sky subscription for every decent fight, being a boxing fan could be about to get pretty costly.
As strange as it sounds, the Sky monopoly worked out quite well.
How so?

£15 for a broadcast that is below the standard Sky have set and at the same cost?
Well, that isn't under the Sky monopoly.

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Thu 25 Aug 2011, 2:11 pm

Scottrf wrote:
prettyboykev wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
rowley wrote:Perfectly true Zoomy, basically on the back of Sky downgrading Khan Mcloskey (because pre orders had been pitiful I should add) Golden Boy have had a bit of a falling out with Sky and took this one to Primetime, not great news as a fan because the coverage isn't as good and it is a fee on top of the sky subscription for every decent fight, being a boxing fan could be about to get pretty costly.
As strange as it sounds, the Sky monopoly worked out quite well.
How so?

£15 for a broadcast that is below the standard Sky have set and at the same cost?
Well, that isn't under the Sky monopoly.

Sorry mate misread you.
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Post by azumah HOF Thu 25 Aug 2011, 8:28 pm

Dazstarr wrote:
azumah HOF wrote:
Scottrf wrote:24/7 at the weekend!

Yeh cant wait!!!!!! is it true its primetime and not Sky shwoing it in the UK (the fight that is) if so how the hell did Sky let that one go!!!

What channel will the 24/7 be on now that Sky wont be showing it? It is download only?

Dazz it tends to usually get on to youtube the day after! Also CNN have got it the day after

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Post by Daz Thu 25 Aug 2011, 8:37 pm

Cheers Zoomy

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Thu 25 Aug 2011, 9:50 pm

azumah HOF wrote:
Dazstarr wrote:
azumah HOF wrote:
Scottrf wrote:24/7 at the weekend!

Yeh cant wait!!!!!! is it true its primetime and not Sky shwoing it in the UK (the fight that is) if so how the hell did Sky let that one go!!!

What channel will the 24/7 be on now that Sky wont be showing it? It is download only?

Dazz it tends to usually get on to youtube the day after! Also CNN have got it the day after

Primetime might show it they showed a lot of the Khan stuff HBO did prior to the Judah fight.
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