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Post by jb1973 Tue 06 Sep 2011, 10:58 pm

I'll stick my neck out and go for ioane, any one else got any names they would like to suggest?

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Post by rugbyman Tue 06 Sep 2011, 11:07 pm

According to the planet rugby poll it'll be Hosea Gear Wink

But I'd agree Ioane will probably score a lot, he's probably the favourite

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Post by Leicester's Lucas Levia Tue 06 Sep 2011, 11:10 pm

manu tualagi Very Happy hopefully

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Post by wales606 Tue 06 Sep 2011, 11:38 pm

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Post by nganboy Wed 07 Sep 2011, 1:46 am

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Post by sad_gimp Wed 07 Sep 2011, 6:17 am

O'Connor

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Post by kingjohn7 Wed 07 Sep 2011, 6:27 am

Georgie North obv! all set up by Shane

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Post by Bazzer79 Wed 07 Sep 2011, 7:00 am

I've got £10 on Manu Tuilagi at 80-1. A long shot, but good odds I think. Hope MJ will give him plenty of game time in the pool stages to get him settled before the knockouts! Come on England!!!!!!

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Post by Biltong Wed 07 Sep 2011, 7:13 am

I wouldn't look past a New zealander, any of their players can rack up 4 tries per match in the pool stages..
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Post by Mickado Wed 07 Sep 2011, 8:34 am

biltongbek wrote:I wouldn't look past a New zealander, any of their players can rack up 4 tries per match in the pool stages..

Only problem with betting on them is that you never know who's going to start. I might have a cheeky 5ver on Vinny Clarke.

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Post by Taylorman Wed 07 Sep 2011, 8:52 am

I'd go for Nonu or Beale. NZ has an easier pool than some.

I think NZ will put a large score on Tonga as they're pretty focused and after two losses getting that part of the ledger right is the first of several little goals.

Larsen is hoping for something 'special' from the opening game (saying he hopes it comes from the AB's!) in the JK try against Italy mode.

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Post by Adam D Wed 07 Sep 2011, 8:56 am

Top point scorer odds from Paddy Power:

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D Carter
6/5
M Parra
22/1
B James
66/1
M Steyn
4/1
J Hook
25/1
F Contepomi
66/1
J O'Connor
8/1
C Slade
30/1
Stephen Jones
66/1
Q Cooper
9/1
T Flood
30/1
R Pienaar
66/1
D Yachvili
9/1
R O'Gara
50/1
D Parks
90/1
J Wilkinson
10/1
P Lambie
50/1
R Jackson
150/1
J Sexton
18/1
K Beale
50/1
Mirco Bergamasco

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C Jane
8/1
K Earls
50/1
W Genia
90/1
D Ioane
10/1
B Foden
50/1
M Mermoz
90/1
I Toeava
11/1
D Carter
50/1
A Brew
100/1
I Dagg
11/1
B Barnes
50/1
D Traille
100/1
Z Guildford
12/1
Q Cooper
50/1
D Lemi
100/1
M Nonu
14/1
L Halfpenny
60/1
R Kearney
100/1
R Kahui
16/1
J de Jongh
60/1
L Byrne
100/1
J O'Connor
16/1
J de Villiers
66/1
P Spies
125/1
D Mitchell
16/1
A Trimble
66/1
J Hook
150/1
C Ashton
18/1
A Faingaa
66/1
T Ngwenya
150/1
B Habana
18/1
C Heymans
66/1
B Youngs
150/1
T Bowe
20/1
P Lambie
66/1
S Danielli
175/1
A Ashley-Cooper
20/1
A Palisson
66/1
F McFadden
175/1
M Muliaina
20/1
M Banahan
66/1
M Evans
175/1
SB Williams
25/1
F Steyn
66/1
S Lamont
175/1
M Medard
25/1
B O'Driscoll
66/1
A Ellis
225/1
K Beale
25/1
P McCabe
75/1
R McCaw
225/1
V Clerc
25/1
D Armitage
80/1
R Lamont
225/1
J Pietersen
25/1
N Nalaga
80/1
R Elsom
225/1
Shane Williams
30/1
A Tuilagi
80/1
J Cowan
225/1
C Smith
30/1
A Rougerie
80/1
T Croft
275/1
M Tuilagi
30/1
J Roberts
80/1
P Weepu
275/1
J Fourie
33/1
A Vulivuli
80/1
C Paterson
275/1
G North
33/1
R Horne
80/1
J Heaslip
275/1
M Cueto
35/1
M Tindall
80/1
N Easter
325/1
O Ndungane
35/1
F Trinh-Duc
80/1
S Parisse
375/1
G Aplon
40/1

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Wed 07 Sep 2011, 8:59 am

Can't believe nobody has mentioned Dan Parks?! Wink

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Post by rodders Wed 07 Sep 2011, 9:04 am

Maybe Vincent Clerc or George North,depending on how far Wales go. Mils Muliena is likely to start most of NZ's games and knows were the try line is.

Brian O'Driscoll has been getting on the scoresheet pretty regularly this season and will want to have a big tournament in his last WC.

Edit: Sean O'Brien is another possibility.
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Post by Mickado Wed 07 Sep 2011, 9:12 am

Kurtley Beale at 25's?

I think i might just take a piece of that!

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Post by rodders Wed 07 Sep 2011, 9:37 am

roddersm wrote:Mils Muliena is likely to start most of NZ's games and knows were the try line is.


Doh Just seen Mils has been dropped!
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Post by Adam D Wed 07 Sep 2011, 9:39 am

Guys if you decide to put on a bet, can you do so through the links on the betting page. You will most probably get a new introductory offer and it will help the forum in the long run, as we might get some money to advertise elsewhere for new members etc.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Wed 07 Sep 2011, 9:50 am

roddersm wrote:
roddersm wrote:Mils Muliena is likely to start most of NZ's games and knows were the try line is.


Doh Just seen Mils has been dropped!

Read a theory that Mils is being rested to see how Dagg goes but also to give Richie and Mils (he´d play in the Japan game and Richie be rested) the chance for both of them to walk out in the France game with their 100th tests. As if we needed more motivation.

I like Nonu ´s chances for NZ. He´s in good form at the moment with Conrad Smith. But I agree that against a weak pool team, some winger is going to have a field day. Marc Ellis scored six tries against Japan in 1995 so anything is possible but Japan are much stronger this time round. Ioane is a good shout for Oz. Can´t see it coming from England as they have tough slugfests in store with Scotland and Argentina. I think it´ll be from a team that can dominate smaller opponents and who will go far in the tournament. Please let it be Nonu!

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Post by westisbest Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:02 am

Might have a punt on Heymans at 66/1

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Post by RubyGuby Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:10 am

Richard Kahui for me - the guy just pops up everywhere and wants it all the time. thumbsup

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:19 am

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:
roddersm wrote:
roddersm wrote:Mils Muliena is likely to start most of NZ's games and knows were the try line is.


Doh Just seen Mils has been dropped!

Read a theory that Mils is being rested to see how Dagg goes but also to give Richie and Mils (he´d play in the Japan game and Richie be rested) the chance for both of them to walk out in the France game with their 100th tests. As if we needed more motivation.

I like Nonu ´s chances for NZ. He´s in good form at the moment with Conrad Smith. But I agree that against a weak pool team, some winger is going to have a field day. Marc Ellis scored six tries against Japan in 1995 so anything is possible but Japan are much stronger this time round. Ioane is a good shout for Oz. Can´t see it coming from England as they have tough slugfests in store with Scotland and Argentina. I think it´ll be from a team that can dominate smaller opponents and who will go far in the tournament. Please let it be Nonu!
Call me old fashioned, buy I kind of like that notion, kia OK

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Wed 07 Sep 2011, 10:29 am

Nothing wrong with being traditional mate. I like the idea too. I was just being facetious with 2007 quarter final exit being more than enough motivation. Seems a good idea to me to bring out the best in Mils who hasn´t hit the form of last year by giving Dagg a go. See how the young kid deals with pressure to perform and for that to rub off on Mils who lacks the x-factor of Dagg but who can be a lethal finisher as he showed last year.

100 games for Richie with all his injuries and body bruising over the years. It´s a great achievement.

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Post by Mr Bounce Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:04 am

I would go for Beale too - he's been looking very sharp recently.

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Post by dummy_half Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:14 am

The leading try scorer is going to be:

Matt Banahan Shocked

Really I'm only being half facetious - I can see England playing a largely second string side against Romania and perhaps Georgia, and still winning by a cricket score. Bananaman should be playing these games, and one thing he has proven is that he is good at scoring against poor quality opposition. As such it's possible he'll score 5 or 6 tries in these matches, so could be well up the list.

You can of course make a similar statement about reserve wingers for the ABs for the Canada and Japan games and for Australia against Russia and the USA, so really it's tough to call.

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Post by rodders Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:21 am

How the flip does Mark Cueto get odds of 35/1?!! 350/1 would have been more realistic! Shocked
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Post by GunsGerms Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:31 am

Digby Ioane or Cory Jane. If I was a betting man I'd say Ioane.

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Post by BATH_BTGOG Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:35 am

Banahan or Ashton for me
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Post by GunsGerms Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:42 am

BATH_BTGOG wrote:Banahan or Ashton for me

Good to see you have a sense of humour. I bet neither will even be Englands top try scorers. Interesting to see how Ashtons knee surgery will affect his pace which is his biggest asset. I tip Ashton to score 3 tries max and none in knock out stages. I tip Banahan to score 1 max. Foden is Englands danger man.

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Post by GunsGerms Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:43 am

...or possibly Tuilagi.

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Post by Adam D Wed 07 Sep 2011, 12:55 pm

leinsterbaby wrote:...or possibly Tuilagi.

but only if they "unleash" Tuilagi Laugh

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Post by nottins_jones Wed 07 Sep 2011, 1:00 pm

France - Heymans
NZ - Nonu
Aus - Iaone
SA - Fourie
Eng - Ashton
Ire - BOD
Wal - North
Samoa - Tagi
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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Wed 07 Sep 2011, 1:01 pm

Who will top forward try scorer be? I won a lot of TAB money betting on Kees Meuws the super sub to score a try. Woodcock for the ABs has an eye for the try line, as do Read and McCaw but they have injury or form concerns.

It´s either a pacey fetcher running support or a front row prop useful at burrowing over from close. Don´t see a lock being top forward try scorer or an imposing enough number 8 in good form in a good side to top the charts.

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Post by GunsGerms Wed 07 Sep 2011, 1:14 pm

Sean OBrien is a good bet for top forward try scorer or Reid if he was fully fit but he is not.

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Post by TheGreyGhost Wed 07 Sep 2011, 1:16 pm

roddersm wrote:Mils Muliena is likely to start most of NZ's games and knows were the try line is.

Heh. Aren't predictions tricky?


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Post by funnyExiledScot Wed 07 Sep 2011, 1:20 pm

I wouldn't pick a Kiwi. Too much rotation likely in the group stages. Ioane is a good shout.

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Post by BATH_BTGOG Wed 07 Sep 2011, 1:24 pm

So you don't think Banahan will get many against Romania or Georgia?

I think he get 2 or 3 against this weak opposition in each game.
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Post by GunsGerms Wed 07 Sep 2011, 1:53 pm

Nope I don't think Banahan will score much v Georgia or Romania.

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Post by Comfort Wed 07 Sep 2011, 1:57 pm

for me, Id imagine it will be one of the following:

Ioane
Beale
Fourie
Jane

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Post by GunsGerms Wed 07 Sep 2011, 2:09 pm

SA have a tough group so I can't see them scoring loads of tries so I'd be surprised if Fourie came out on top. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a French man near the top, someone perhaps unexpected like heymans or Rougerie.

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Post by Comfort Wed 07 Sep 2011, 2:21 pm

Id have thought Clerc will be there or thereabouts for the french.

I know what you mean about S.Africa, but I think there'll be plenty of tries in that group. Namibia are usually slaughtered in world cups and fourie seems as likely as anyone in the south african back division to get across the line. As with fiji/samoa not exactly known for their organised defence, ferocious tackling yes, but not necessarily smart defence.

as with anything on this forum, its all hairstyles and little tickles in my liver thats giving me these predictions Cool

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Post by TheGreyGhost Wed 07 Sep 2011, 3:41 pm

I thought the Samoan defense looked rather well organised the last couple of times I saw them. Fiji were shredded by a very off-key NZ and shouldn't realistically pose a threat to anyone. Score wise.

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Post by BATH_BTGOG Wed 07 Sep 2011, 4:02 pm

Why not Leinsterbaby?

Bana's is always up in the top three try scorers in the AP, so he knows where the try line is, plus his match to try ratio in an England shirt isn't bad.
Maybe you just don't like the guy? but his a good ouside bet.
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Post by TheGreyGhost Wed 07 Sep 2011, 4:05 pm

Can't help but think it will be one of the Aussie back division. Perhaps JOC if he gets his shot and sorts out his sleeping pattern.

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Post by The Panther Wed 07 Sep 2011, 4:44 pm

I think Delon Armitage may be a dark horse for the top scorer in the England team. He will probably play a lot of games, he seems to be in form and very hungry. Hopefully he'll bag a few this weekend and keep Cueto out FOREVER!!!

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Post by ML Wed 07 Sep 2011, 4:54 pm

BATH_BTGOG wrote:So you don't think Banahan will get many against Romania or Georgia?

I think he get 2 or 3 against this weak opposition in each game.

As long as all the defenders are much smaller than Shane Williams, you might be right, but put him up against anyone larger than an under16 player and he tends to get bullied.

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Post by Comfort Wed 07 Sep 2011, 4:59 pm

ML wrote:
BATH_BTGOG wrote:So you don't think Banahan will get many against Romania or Georgia?

I think he get 2 or 3 against this weak opposition in each game.

As long as all the defenders are much smaller than Shane Williams, you might be right, but put him up against anyone larger than an under16 player and he tends to get bullied.

Laugh

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Post by wales606 Wed 07 Sep 2011, 6:12 pm

ML wrote:
BATH_BTGOG wrote:So you don't think Banahan will get many against Romania or Georgia?

I think he get 2 or 3 against this weak opposition in each game.

As long as all the defenders are much smaller than Shane Williams, you might be right, but put him up against anyone larger than an under16 player and he tends to get bullied.

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Post by GangGreen Wed 07 Sep 2011, 11:29 pm

I think banahan will get one or two but not against an organized defense, I still can't believe he didn't throw a hand off at Shane but nevermind. I couldn't stop myself putting a few quid on Tuilagi to be in top 4 and Ashton. His support running against teams like Romania or Georgia will end with tries. Look at his 4 tries against Italy in this years 6 nations. I reckon he can get in the top 4 if he starts against those teams

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Post by Meflanker Thu 08 Sep 2011, 2:15 am

Alesana Tuilagi could be a bit of a dark horse to get a fair amount of tries in the world cup, he's been in good try scoring form over the past season and bagged one against Oz aswell.

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Post by jbeadlesbigrighthand Thu 08 Sep 2011, 12:07 pm

roddersm wrote:How the flip does Mark Cueto get odds of 35/1?!! 350/1 would have been more realistic! Shocked

That can't be right. That can't be right at all.

I was going to say an Aussie back would be top scorer. Maybe Beale or Ioane. But, thinking about their group, I don't think they'll have any games that will be cricket scores.

NZ should hammer Japan and Canada, so you'd think Nonu, Jane, Dagg are all in with a shot. Depends how much consistency of selection they have.

If I was to put money on, however, Banahan at 66/1 looks better than backing a kiwi who may get rotated out at 8/1 - 16/1. Especially when you consider that he may come on against Argentina and has quite a handy record against them.

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