Celtic League Cumulative Statistics

Just a look at the Celtic League Cumulative Statistics;

Aironi
Appearances: 25 Champions: 0 Wins: 1 Draws: 0 Losses: 24 win rate 4%

Benetton Treviso
Appearances: 25 Champions: 0 Wins: 9 Draws: 0 Losses: 16 win rate 36%

Cardiff Blues
Appearances: 161 Champions: 0 Wins: 88 Draws: 4 Losses: 69 win rate 54%

Connacht
Appearances: 176 Champions: 0 Wins: 57 Draws: 8 Losses: 111 win rate 32%

Edinburgh
Appearances: 175 Champions: 0 Wins: 83 Draws: 4 Losses: 88 win rate 47%

Glasgow
Appearances: 179 Champions: 0 Wins: 75 Draws: 7 Losses: 97 win rate 42%

Leinster
Appearances: 182 Champions: 2 Wins: 115 Draws: 6 Losses: 61 win rate 63%

Munster
Appearances: 183 Champions: 3 Wins: 122 Draws: 2 Losses: 59 win rate 67%

Newport Gwent Dragons
Appearances: 161 Champions: 0 Wins: 75 Draws: 3 Losses: 83 win rate 47%

Ospreys
Appearances: 164 Champions: 3 Wins: 97 Draws: 5 Losses: 62 win rate 59%

Scarlets
Appearances: 161 Champions: 1 Wins: 81 Draws: 3 Losses: 77 win rate 50%

Ulster
Appearances: 180 Champions: 1 Wins: 99 Draws: 6 Losses: 75 win rate 55%

Overall table based on win rate
Munster 67%
Leinster 63%
Ospreys 59%
Ulster 55%
Cardiff 54%
Scarlets 50%
= Dragons/Edinburgh 47%
Glasgow 42%
Benetton Treviso 36%
Connacht 32%
Aironi 4%

Whats intresting about the stats, is leaving Leinster and Munster out, how close the the remaining teams are.
it's about a 4% difference between each team.
You could say Ospreys are doing well with joint most titles (3) and missing 2 seasons and only having the 3rd best win rate.
You must conclude that whe Ospreys have a good years and bad years, while Leinster are more consistant.

Irritating that the Dragons are down there with the cack teams, clearly there is a gulf between the top 6 and the rest.

Hopefully that gap will close sooner rather than later, but I sense while the Italian clubs will improve the Scottish ones will probably get worse.

Italian clubs can improve at a lot faster rate than Dragons or Connacht can, I'd say that Dragons Connacht the two Scottish teams and Italians, will make up the bottom half for many many years to come.

to overtake Scarlets Dragond have to win 7 games while the Scarlets lose 7, maybe not this season but maybe after next season, Dragon could jump into top 6.
Doubt it will happen though.

AlynDavies wrote:Irritating that the Dragons are down there with the cack teams

Doesn't that make them (in your words) cack?

Hopefully the Scarlets can keep improving and keep investing in youth and increase our 50% win rate to say 59% in the next 2/3 years. It's depressing when you compare any of the teams to Munster/Leinster anyway you look at it

greybeard wrote:Doesn't that make them (in your words) cack?

Over the last few seasons you could indeed call them that, however the Dragons academy is now firing out a lot of talent, Lydiate, Faletau, Tovey, Steffan Jones and quite a few others are coming through, so hopefully they will be tied down to long term contracts and we will see the rise of the Dragons.
Clearly all the Welsh regions have got brilliant academy systems in place, as do the Irish teams. I have been very impressed with the Italian reserve sides in the RaboDirect this season, especially Aironi. Hence my comment about Scotland falling behind, they just don;t have the numbers coming through that Ireland, and Wales seem to, and seem to be falling behind Italy.

AlynDavies wrote:Irritating that the Dragons are down there with the cack teams, clearly there is a gulf between the top 6 and the rest.

I see that you are quoting the Scottish teams as being cack, despite the Dragons only finishing above a Scottish side once in the past five seasons and Glasgow pretty much owning the HC group meetings over the past couple of seasons.

Glasgow and Edinburgh have been brining through a number of good players in recent years and our current batch at Glasgow are not doing too bad, considering we just came back from Leinster with a win, despite have eight Under 22s in our starting XV.