If Ali was around???

Ali.. The Greastest..I agree.. Now what if Ali was 20 years old in 2011
Is he Heavyweight?? No way.. Klitcho beats him..
Agree or not?

I'd guess he would be waiting for the London Olympics so wouldn't face Klitschko.

Not a man of many words clearly.

I did an article about how the Klitschko's match up to the great heavies a few weeks back. The general consensus was that while Vitali coped better neither despite their size matched up that well. Especially not against Ali or Louis who both just had far to much for the brothers.

Ali's speed along with his movement and power would have terrified Wladimir into a shell he may never have returned out of. Vitali is a bit more open but he is also a bit slower and while he has a solid chin I'm not 100% sure he would go the distance with Ali who I think would land shots with relative ease.

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Joshsmith wrote:Ali.. The Greastest..I agree.. Now what if Ali was 20 years old in 2011
Is he Heavyweight?? No way.. Klitcho beats him..
Agree or not?

Have you consumed many units of alcohol, Joshua ?

Another masterstroke of guff on here, well done kiddo

Maybe a twenty year old Ali could drop a decision to either brother at their best, as he was far from the finished article. But who would throw a novice 20 year old with the K's?

At 25, circa 1967, I think he beats both with someting to spare. Neither can set a high pace, neither has shown great movement or ability to catch up to a truly elusive and balanced fighter.

Ali's stiff and fast combos would take their toll and I wouldn't be surprised if neither went 12 rounds with him.

I do aplogise i did mean Ali at 229 not 20..
But.. kev
Ali's speed along with his movement and power would have terrified Wladimir into a shell he may never have returned out of..

That is the biggest load of EDIT i have read for sometime..
Get real the Eastern European,s who have Ruled The World Heavyweight Championship of The World for the past Decade deserve more respect.. than you give credit for.

I'm watching a programme about dinosaurs which is quite interesting.

Joshsmith wrote:I do aplogise i did mean Ali at 229 not 20..

Klitschkos win big.

Joshsmith wrote:I do aplogise i did mean Ali at 229 not 20..
But.. kev
Ali's speed along with his movement and power would have terrified Wladimir into a shell he may never have returned out of..

That is the biggest load of horseshit i have read for sometime..
Get real the Eastern European,s who have Ruled The World Heavyweight Championship of The World for the past Decade deserve more respect.. than you give credit for.

Mate I'm a big Klitschko fan but everyone knows Wladimir is scared of fighters with power he knows he's chinny. Ali had power, speed and movement. I stand by it Wladimir would be terrified of him. He was reluctant to let his hands go against Haye imagine what he would be like against Ali!

Joshsmith wrote:
Get real the Eastern European,s who have Ruled The World Heavyweight Championship of The World for the past Decade deserve more respect.. than you give credit for.

Are thEre anY particulAr rules to usinG capitaLS when you WANT in a SENtENCe or should you only dO it at the StArT of WordS?

BALTIMORA wrote:I'm watching a programme about dinosaurs which is quite interesting.

Was that the one on the BBC? If it is I I sky+d it the first one last week was excellent.

Joshsmith wrote:
That is the biggest load of horseshit i have read for sometime.

I agree.

Joshsmith wrote:I do aplogise i did mean Ali at 229 not 20..
But.. kev
Ali's speed along with his movement and power would have terrified Wladimir into a shell he may never have returned out of..

That is the biggest load of horseshit i have read for sometime..
Get real the Eastern European,s who have Ruled The World Heavyweight Championship of The World for the past Decade deserve more respect.. than you give credit for.

That's how I felt when I read this article!

prettyboykev wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:I'm watching a programme about dinosaurs which is quite interesting.

Was that the one on the BBC? If it is I I sky+d it the first one last week was excellent.

Yeah mate, BBC four, it's been on ages. Talking about feathered t-rexes and stuff, about the evolution of them and how they relate to modern species. Really interesting. More so than anything the OP has to offer.

The worrying thing is he claims to 40.

BALTIMORA wrote:

prettyboykev wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:I'm watching a programme about dinosaurs which is quite interesting.

Was that the one on the BBC? If it is I I sky+d it the first one last week was excellent.

Yeah mate, BBC four, it's been on ages. Talking about feathered t-rexes and stuff, about the evolution of them and how they relate to modern species. Really interesting. More so than anything the OP has to offer.

I missed the stuff on BBC four just sky+d the repeats later tonight. Their is a series on BBC one just now called planet dinosaur. It's just like walking with dinosaurs.

6oldenbhoy wrote:The worrying thing is he claims to 40.

He may have got confused about the difference between age and I.Q the poor lamb!

I salute you chaps
Your opinions were lovely to read.
Baltimore..(a). you are so multi tasking (are you a lady)
Rowley.... Please have never spelt nowt right all t`time get a life
Prettyboy.. I bet you are not....
John Wayne.. enough said.. no.. get off your horse and your drink... no no
off for a cold beer now 18.00 hrs for me...

Joshsmith wrote:Prettyboy.. I bet you are not....

I wouldn't put your money on that one pal!

Wlad gets outpointed, in a scrappy UD. Vitali made to look silly.

Joshsmith wrote:I salute you chaps
Your opinions were lovely to read.
Baltimore..(a). you are so multi tasking (are you a lady)
Rowley.... Please have never spelt nowt right all t`time get a life
Prettyboy.. I bet you are not....
John Wayne.. enough said.. no.. get off your horse and your drink... no no
off for a cold beer now 18.00 hrs for me...

Pity yours weren't...

just been watching joe louis. he was quick wasn't he? baer and braddock looked a bit village and marciano looked like an uncultured ricky hatton. great stuff

Michaels, Sean wrote:just been watching joe louis. he was quick wasn't he? baer and braddock looked a bit village and marciano looked like an uncultured ricky hatton. great stuff

I have that Atlas and Sugar book of boxing lists and Atlas rates Louis as his greatest ever heavyweight but then doesn't have him in his 10 greatest fighters of all time but has Ali at 8!

prettyboykev wrote:

Joshsmith wrote:I do aplogise i did mean Ali at 229 not 20..
But.. kev
Ali's speed along with his movement and power would have terrified Wladimir into a shell he may never have returned out of..

That is the biggest load of horseshit i have read for sometime..
Get real the Eastern European,s who have Ruled The World Heavyweight Championship of The World for the past Decade deserve more respect.. than you give credit for.

Mate I'm a big Klitschko fan but everyone knows Wladimir is scared of fighters with power he knows he's chinny. Ali had power, speed and movement. I stand by it Wladimir would be terrified of him. He was reluctant to let his hands go against Haye imagine what he would be like against Ali!

Can't believe you even began to entertain this clown...!

TopHat24/7 wrote:

prettyboykev wrote:

Joshsmith wrote:I do aplogise i did mean Ali at 229 not 20..
But.. kev
Ali's speed along with his movement and power would have terrified Wladimir into a shell he may never have returned out of..

That is the biggest load of horseshit i have read for sometime..
Get real the Eastern European,s who have Ruled The World Heavyweight Championship of The World for the past Decade deserve more respect.. than you give credit for.

Mate I'm a big Klitschko fan but everyone knows Wladimir is scared of fighters with power he knows he's chinny. Ali had power, speed and movement. I stand by it Wladimir would be terrified of him. He was reluctant to let his hands go against Haye imagine what he would be like against Ali!

Can't believe you even began to entertain this clown...!

Joshsmith wrote:John Wayne.. enough said.. no.. get off your horse and your drink... no no
off for a cold beer now 18.00 hrs for me...

Excuse I'm...I'm off for a little cry now...

This thread reminds me of the mini-debate that has been raging in the science world.Are we regressing to an era that now rejects Enlightenment thinking?Stephen Pinker is contesting this cultural "truism" in his new book.
Joshsmith I'd like to know your views on this.

andygf wrote:This thread reminds me of the mini-debate that has been raging in the science world.Are we regressing to an era that now rejects Enlightenment thinking?Stephen Pinker is contesting this cultural "truism" in his new book.
Joshsmith I'd like to know your views on this.

Just watch Big Brother and tell me there's any semblance of Enlightenment anywhere in that house

Enlightenment................ Dave 766
What a Great album by Van The Man that is .. you do have class..

What am I reading here????

Joshmith can't be serious? He makes Waingro look like Teddy Atlas!

School Project wrote:What am I reading here????

Joshmith can't be serious? He makes Waingro look like Teddy Atlas!

Hang on... Did Joshsmith seriously reply to a post from 22nd of September?

Wow.

If there aren't any major objections, I'm locking this article.

Any issues with that, pm me. Although I doubt I'll receive any complaints.

For the record - It is my opinion that we aren't living through an enlightenment - rather an era in love with the rejection of authority.