100,000 Proud Englishmen To Invade Poland and Ukraine

Well around that.

Approximately 100,000 England fans will cheer on England at Euro 2012, 5 times more than the 2010 World Cup, each convinced that this is our year!

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/England-fans-to-travel-in-100-000-numbers-to-Euro-2012-with-cheap-tickets-and-flights-article809726.html

If by some miracle Scotland make it to the Euro Finals I was tempted to go across, it might never happen again for a while hell I'll be lucky if it happens this time.

The only thing putting me of going across is the thought of German, English and Poland fans in Poland in large numbers just screams powder keg waiting to go of. Maybe I'm just being to cynical.

Well it probablywill kick off with the low low prices of beer, hope it doesn't though.

What exactly do they have to be "proud" of? They'll be home before the postcards.

super_realist wrote:What exactly do they have to be "proud" of? They'll be home before the postcards.

Still, it's nice to get there at least.

Good point about a powder keg waiting to go off, and of course that would be further antagonised if the Scots get there (as both sets of fans are bound to want to wind the other set up when they've had a few). But the British FA's and Police are quite good at identifying the yobs before hand and stopping them travelling.

It may kick off, and I wonder how much trouble there'll be between Ukrainian and Russian fans, as neither are big fans of each other...

Still it's all an insignificance until Wales wipe the floor with everyone in 4 years time...

super_realist wrote:What exactly do they have to be "proud" of? They'll be home before the postcards.

I really don't get Scotland fans. Every time England crash out of a tournament you plague forums with stuff like 'England is Poopie'. When was the last time you even QUALIFIED for a tournament, let alone do well?

It actually wasn't a remark from a Scottish perspective, but if I was English, I don't think I'd have a great deal to be proud of. Your team is a shambles against all but the worst teams, doesn't seem to care, over-rated players, no idea of how to play as a team and have a long history of being wretched in major competitions. What makes anyone think it will be any different this time?
Ranked 8 in the world . I don't think i'd put them in the top 8 in Europe even.

I'd also be a bit concerned about the venues. Both countries have a long tradition of thuggery to which the English could be easily reeled into.

Duty281 wrote:

super_realist wrote:What exactly do they have to be "proud" of? They'll be home before the postcards.

I really don't get Scotland fans. Every time England crash out of a tournament you plague forums with stuff like 'England is Poopie'. When was the last time you even QUALIFIED for a tournament, let alone do well?

He's not a Scotland fan either.

super_realist wrote:It actually wasn't a remark from a Scottish perspective, but if I was English, I don't think I'd have a great deal to be proud of. Your team is a shambles against all but the worst teams, doesn't seem to care, over-rated players, no idea of how to play as a team and have a long history of being wretched in major competitions. What makes anyone think it will be any different this time?
Ranked 8 in the world . I don't think i'd put them in the top 8 in Europe even.

I'd also be a bit concerned about the venues. Both countries have a long tradition of thuggery to which the English could be easily reeled into.

Well if we base it on the last World Cup, England are certainly one of the best 16 teams in the World and at least we got to the 2010 World tournament which is much more than about 167 nations can say. Proud to be English - the greatest sporting nation on Earth.

Duty281 wrote:

super_realist wrote:It actually wasn't a remark from a Scottish perspective, but if I was English, I don't think I'd have a great deal to be proud of. Your team is a shambles against all but the worst teams, doesn't seem to care, over-rated players, no idea of how to play as a team and have a long history of being wretched in major competitions. What makes anyone think it will be any different this time?
Ranked 8 in the world . I don't think i'd put them in the top 8 in Europe even.

I'd also be a bit concerned about the venues. Both countries have a long tradition of thuggery to which the English could be easily reeled into.

Well if we base it on the last World Cup, England are certainly one of the best 16 teams in the World and at least we got to the 2010 World tournament which is much more than about 167 nations can say. Proud to be English - the greatest sporting nation on Earth.

Nothing wrong with being proud of being English, but it's got nothing to do with sporting credentials or achievements, because in reality your football team really isn't any better than the likes of Greece and Serbia.

100,000 over-optimistic, unrealistic and undoubtedly disappointed (again) Englishmen.

super_realist wrote:What exactly do they have to be "proud" of? They'll be home before the postcards.

Super_realist I think you're my favourite 606v2 poster. Your posts about the old firm on the top clubs article cracked me up.

I can't quite figure out whether you're on the windup or just feeling the need to put other teams down and provoke a reaction. Either way you're absolutely right at times.

Bit of both Jay-z, the football forum can be a bit quiet where people can be a bit myopic and defensive about their own teams despite knowing that they aren't as good as they think they are, but aren't prepared to admit, and sometimes it needs a bit of a controvertial post to get the replies coming in and provoke a reaction to spark a debate.
There can however, be no doubt that British international football needs a serious shake up. There is no reason at all why it needs to be so poor.
England should easily be contending to win tournaments and Scotland should be at least qualifying every second tournament. If other tiny countries can do it, then the UK should certainly be able to get their act together.

Duty281 wrote:

super_realist wrote:It actually wasn't a remark from a Scottish perspective, but if I was English, I don't think I'd have a great deal to be proud of. Your team is a shambles against all but the worst teams, doesn't seem to care, over-rated players, no idea of how to play as a team and have a long history of being wretched in major competitions. What makes anyone think it will be any different this time?
Ranked 8 in the world . I don't think i'd put them in the top 8 in Europe even.

I'd also be a bit concerned about the venues. Both countries have a long tradition of thuggery to which the English could be easily reeled into.

Well if we base it on the last World Cup, England are certainly one of the best 16 teams in the World and at least we got to the 2010 World tournament which is much more than about 167 nations can say. Proud to be English - the greatest sporting nation on Earth.

Being English, and proud, i completely disgaree. Gary Neville is absolutely right, England are cack. The spine of the team is awful.

Adulterous Captain.
Over-hyped and long in the tooth midfield
Aggressive, petulant, thug of a talisman.

In my opinion, only Terry should be anywhere near the starting 11 come the first game of the Euro's and that's because he is a proper Captain (after he's finished banging his teammates wives).

It's about time we gave the next generation a shot. It didn't hurt Germany.


Stick the others on the bench.