Raw Results

- Tonight’s WWE RAW Supershow opens up with the pyro going off inside the St. Pete Times Forum in Tampa, Florida. Michael Cole welcomes us to RAW and is joined by Jerry Lawler.

- We go right to the ring and out comes John Cena to a mixed reaction. Cena talks about last week’s RAW and thanks Roddy Piper for telling how he felt about Cena last week. Cena talks about how each and every fan has earned the right to tell him how they feel about him. Cena invites the fans to boo or cheer him, whatever they want. Cena says he’s been dealing with reactions like this since he got here but for some reason, people are making a big deal out of it now.

Cena says CM Punk needs a #1 contender and the only thing bigger than The Rock vs. John Cena at WrestleMania 28 is Rock vs. Cena for the WWE Title. Cena goes to call out Punk but Alberto Del Rio interrupts and walks down the ramp. Del Rio says Cena doesn’t get a title match because the next title match is his. Del Rio says he will be the next WWE Champion. Del Rio shows footage from last week’s RAW where Punk dropped his head on the exposed turnbuckle to get the win in their WWE Title match. Del Rio says Punk cheated and he should be the new WWE Champion. Vickie Guerrero interrupts and walks out with United States Champion Dolph Ziggler.

Vickie says neither of them deserve a title shot. She says the only RAW star that deserves a shot is Dolph. Dolph says he will be the first-ever United States and WWE Champion. Cena mocks Ziggler’s past gimmicks and comes up with a new nickname instead of Show Off – Jerk Off. Cena brings up Zack Ryder getting a US Title shot. Ziggler and Cena go back and forth on the mic. Ziggler says the next WWE Title shot goes to everyone’s favorite #heel – him. The Miz interrupts and makes his way to the ring.

Miz brings up the Slammy Awards next week and puts himself over as Superstar of the Year and the next WWE Champion. John Laurinaitis interrupts him and comes out to boos from the crowd. Laurinaitis introduces himself to everyone once again. He says CM Punk has falsely accused him of being boring. Laurinaitis is going to debunk that tonight. Del Rio, Miz and Ziggler will face SmackDown stars tonight and if they win, they get a spot in a title match at TLC. Cena has a special “Social Challenge” match tonight that we don’t know what it is yet. Laurinaitis also announces a contract signing with CM Punk tonight. Miz’s match is up next.

Randy Orton vs. The Miz

Randy Orton makes his way out as Miz looks on from the ring and we go to commercial.

Back from the break and they go at it. Miz takes control but Orton comes out of the corner with right hands and an uppercut. Orton with a big clothesline and stomps. Orton with a suplex. Miz kicks Orton in the head and drops him with a big boot. Miz stomps away on Orton now. Miz with a 2 count and a headlock. Miz with more offense and another 2 count. Miz goes back to the headlock now.

Orton comes back with a suplex. Miz goes for the clothesline in the corner but Orton hits one of his own. And another. Orton with the scoop slam. Orton goes for the second rope draping DDT but Miz counters and sends Orton to the floor. MiZ goes to the floor but Orton scoop slams him hard. Wade Barrett’s music hits and out he comes to the stage. Orton ends up chasing Barrett off to the back and getting counted out.

Winner by Count Out: The Miz

- Orton comes back down to ringside upset. Barrett runs down from behind and lays him out.

- We get a new promo video for the WWE Network.

- Zack Ryder is backstage with John Laurinaitis. Laurinaitis says Dolph Ziggler has filed a complaint because of Ryder’s US Title petition. John Cena walks in wearing Ryders headband, hair and glasses. Laurinaitis puts Cena in a match against Ryder for tonight. Neither of them like this. Cena says this match doesn’t need to happen. Laurinaitis says it does because the WWE Universe wants to see it. Laurinaitis says if Ryder wins, he gets a shot. If Cena wins, he’s in the WWE Title match at TLC.

- David Otunga is backstage with Kevin Nash. Nash vs. Triple H in a Ladder Match at TLC is official. Otunga says Triple H is talking with doctors right now to be cleared. Nash says he doesn’t do ladder matches. Otunga says hanging above the ring will be a sledgehammer. Whoever gets it first can legally use it. Nash says he can do a ladder match now. Tonight, Nash will be in action. Otunga asks if he wants to know who his opponent is. Nash asks if it’s Triple H. Otunga says no and Nash says he has no worries before walking off.

Alberto Del Rio vs. Daniel Bryan

Alberto Del Rio comes out for his TLC qualifying match as we go to commercial.

Back from the break and out comes Daniel Bryan. The bell rings and they go to the corner. Del Rio with a kick to the gut and shoulder thrusts. Del Rio with more kicks and stops to Bryan’s ribs. Bryan makes a comeback but Del Rio cuts it off. More back and forth. Bryan applies the submission but Del Rio breaks out and drops his ribs over the top rope. Del Rio applies the cross armbreaker and Bryan taps out.

Winner: Alberto Del Rio

- It’s now Miz, Del Rio and Punk in the WWE Title match at TLC.

- We see Alicia Fox, Kelly Kelly and Eve Torres walking backstage as we go to commercial.

Beth Phoenix and Natalya vs. Kelly Kelly and Eve

We go to the ring and out comes Kelly Kelly, Eve Torres and Alicia Fox. Out next is Beth Phoenix and Natalya. A promo video for them airs but is interrupted by another January 2012 video that says “Look within.” The match starts and Kelly gets double teamed for a quick pin attempt. Beth continues the attack on Kelly and taunts Eve. Beth turns around to a quick roll up from Kelly for the win.

Winners: Eve and Kelly Kelly

- Cena vs. Ryder is up next. Back to commercial.

Social Experiment Match: John Cena vs. Zack Ryder

Back from the break and out comes Zack Ryder followed by his opponent John Cena. They lock up and Ryder applies a headlock. Cena fights out and takes Ryder down by his arm. Cena turns it around again and takes Ryder down with a headlock. Cena drops Ryder with a shoulder. Ryder leap frogs and Cena blocks his hip toss. Ryder takes Cena down and goes back to a headlock. More back and forth action and another headlock by Cena.

Ryder gets a quick 2 count on Cena and goes back to the headlock. We see Vickie and Dolph watching from backstage. Cena fights out of the headlock but Ryder hits a swinging neckbreaker for another 2 count. Ryder takes Cena back to the mat. Cena fights out again but runs into Ryder’s knees in the corner. Ryder with a missile dropkick from the ropes for another 2 count. Ryder goes back to the top but Cena catches him on his shoulders. Ryder comes down with a tornado DDT for another 2 count. Cena dodges the Ruff Ryder and hits his usual moves. Cena hits the Five Knuckle Shuffle but Ryder grabs the ropes and slides out of the Attitude Adjustment. Cena charges in the corner but Ryder moves and Cena goes down. Ryder fist pumps and hits Cena with the running boot in the corner. Ryder goes for the Ruff Ryder but Cena turns it into the AA for the win.

Winner: John Cena

- Cena is now in the WWE Title match at TLC. We see Vickie and Dolph backstage smiling. Cena goes to help Ryder up but he pushes him off. Ryder is upset about his title shot. Cena marches off to the back and leaves Ryder in the ring.

- Back from the break and David Otunga is talking with John Laurinaitis. Cena walks in peed off and tells Otunga to get out. Cena says Ryder has worked his ass off and deserves a shot at the US Title. Laurinaitis says either Ryder blew it or Cena blew it for him. Laurinaitis says Ryder will have one more opportunity tonight. If Cena gives up his WWE Title shot at TLC, Ryder can get another shot. Cena says he’s a 10-time WWE Champion because he busts his ass every time he’s in the ring. Cena says along the way he was fortunate to get opportunities. Cena says nobody in the office has ever gave Ryder an opportunity. Cena says Ryder deserves at least one shot and drops out of the TLC match, giving Ryder another chance. Laurinaitis hasn’t decided on Ryder’s opponent yet.

No Count Out, No DQ Match: Zack Ryder vs. Mark Henry

Back from the break and Ryder is waiting in the ring. David Otunga informs Justin Roberts that to ensure a winner, this is a No Count Out, No DQ match. Out comes Ryder’s opponent, the World Heavyweight Champion Mark Henry.

Henry knocks Ryder down and goes to work on him. Henry kicks and stomps on Ryder before choking him. Ryder fights back and unloads with punches until Henry floors him with a clothesline. Henry holds Ryder down to the mat and tells him he doesn’t deserve to be in his ring. Ryder fights back with kicks and slams Henry’s injured ankle into the ring post. Ryder fist pumps and hits the running boot to the head in the corner. Henry shoves Ryder across the ring. John Cena comes out to cheer Ryder on.

Henry blocks the Ruff Ryder and slams Ryder. Cena enters the ring and lays Henry out with the Attitude Adjustment. Ryder covers Henry for the win and the US Title shot.

Winner and New #1 Contender: Zack Ryder

- We see Vickie Guerrero coming out of Laurinaitis’ locker room where Ziggler and Jack Swagger are waiting. She couldn’t get the Ryder match overturned. She reveals Ziggler’s opponent tonight is Sheamus. Swagger wants to come in Ziggler’s corner tonight but Ziggler acts like he doesn’t want him there.

- We see Kevin Nash walking to the ring as we go to commercial.

Kevin Nash vs. Santino Marella

Kevin Nash makes his way to the ring and he has a sledgehammer. Nash sets it at ringside and enters the ring. Out next comes Santino Marella, looking for revenge. They go to lock up but Nash hits a knee to the gut and an elbow. Nash catches Santino off the ropes with a big side slam for a 2 count.

Nash connects with a big boot and the Jackknife powerbomb for the quick win.

Winner: Kevin Nash

- After the match, Nash goes and gets the sledgehammer. Nash brings it in the ring and scares Santino with it. Nash raises the sledgehammer in the air before making his exit.

- We see Evan Bourne and CM Punk talking backstage as we go to commercial.

Sheamus vs. Dolph Ziggler

Back from the break and out comes Vickie Guerrero with the United States Champion Dolph Ziggler. His opponent Sheamus is out next. Ziggler dodges two charges from Sheamus and shows off. They lock up and Sheamus slams Ziggler and applies a headlock. Ziggler connects with a big dropkick for a 1 count. Ziggler takes Sheamus to the corner and slaps him. Sheamus knocks him down with a shoulder and hits him with forearm shots to the chest on the ropes.

Sheamus with a suplex and a 2 count. Ziggler fights back and hits a neckbreaker for a 1 count of his own. Ziggler stomps away on Sheamus until he’s told to back off. Ziggler with a headlock now. Sheamus fights out but Ziggler counters and hits the big leg drop for a 2 count. Sheamus comes back again with the ax handles. Sheamus takes it to the corner and beats Ziggler down with headbutts and then a clothesline. Ziggler slides out of the Celtic Cross. Sheamus charges in the corner but Ziggler moves and he hits the ring post. Zack Ryder’s music hits and out he comes to the stage. Ryder runs down to the ring but stops at ringside, distracting Ziggler. Ziggler turns around to a Brogue Kick for the win.

Winner: Sheamus

- After the match, Ryder hits the ring and lays Ziggler out with a Ruff Ryder. Ryder taunts him with the US Title before heading up the ramp.

- Up next is the WWE Title contract signing for TLC. Back to commercial.

- Back from the break and the ring is set up for a contract signing. The Miz and Alberto Del Rio wait as John Laurinaitis is introduced. Laurinaitis makes Mark Henry vs. John Cena for next week’s Slammy RAW. Laurinaitis introduces WWE Champion CM Punk and out he comes.

Punk comes out and moves his chair because he doesn’t want to have a seat. Punk says the contract signing is the biggest WWE cliche. He says they always end in a brawl. Punk goes on and Laurinaitis interrupts him. Laurinaitis announces a Triple Threat Tables, Ladders & Chairs Match for the WWE Title at TLC. Punk knocks Miz and Del Rio and says he’s fine with that. Miz reminds him he took out John Morrison and R-Truth. Punk wonders if he took them out on a date. Miz says he injured Morrison so bad Laurinaitis had to future endeavor him. Laurinaitis looks at the camera and wishes Morrison the best in his future endeavors.

Miz says he’s going to bring the WWE Title back at TLC. Punk says Miz concerns himself with all that Hollywood stuff and he concerns himself with being the best in the world. Del Rio is tired of them crying like girls and says he is the best in the world. Del Rio says he’s going to beat Punk to become champion again and there’s nothing that Miz or Punk can do about it. Miz says he and Del Rio will battle at TLC but they both agree that Punk isn’t walking out WWE Champion. Miz signs the contract. Del Rio says he’s right and then signs it. Del Rio says Punk is going to lose. Punk takes the contract and says once he signs, they can get to fighting right? Laurinaits says no and tells him to sign it. Punk signs and Laurinaitis thanks them, making the match official. Laurinaitis wishes them good luck and says he’s looking forward to the match. Laurinaitis asks a photographer to come in the ring so they can take a picture. Everybody’s in but Punk. Punk says even Laurinaitis’ contract signings are boring. These things are supposed to end in brawls and he wants to take pictures. Punk decks Miz and goes after Del Rio. Miz goes to the floor. Ricardo attacks Punk. Punk goes for GTS on Ricardo Rodriguez but Del Rio makes the save. Del Rio throws the chairs out of the ring and positions the table. Del Rio grabs Punk but Miz grabs him from behind. Punk hits the knee in the corner on Del Rio. Punk bulldogs Del Rio through the table and lays Miz out with GTS on top of Del Rio. Punk grabs the WWE Title and swings it around before going back to the turnbuckles to pose. Laurinaitis looks on from the stage as Punk holds the WWE Title up and stares him down. RAW goes off the air with Miz and Del Rio laid out and Punk holding the belt up.

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Having read them this morning, I get the feeling that Cena should have refused to help Ryder out, if they are indeed going for the slow turn.

It wouldn't have been outright unfair, and he could have been a bit remorseful, but the fact he gave away his shot for Ryder doesn't scream 'heel turn' to me.

Alternative recap;



WWE Monday Night Raw
Tampa, Florida
December 5, 2011
Commentators: Jerry Lawler & Michael Cole
Reported by: David Stephens of Wrestleview.com

Are you ready? Then stop questioning your heart and join me, because it’s time for Monday Night RAW!!!

John Cena’s music hits and he makes his way down to the ring to a very loud and mixed reaction. He has a mic and welcomes the fans to RAW. He recaps his appearance as a guest on Piper’s Pit last week. Cena says that there is no show without all of the fans. If they don’t watch, the wrestlers don’t work. So the fans have earned the right to tell Cena exactly what their opinion is of him. He gives the fans a chance to boo and cheer. Cena puts over the fact that the fans are so crazy he has even heard them chant “Fruity Pebbles”, something you can’t find on any other show. Cena says these reactions aren’t anything new; he’s been getting them his entire career. Cena says that the most important thing in his sights right now is the WWE Championship. Last week, Punk defeated Alberto Del Rio to retain his WWE Championship. Cena wants to become the #1 Contender.

Alberto Del Rio walks down to the ring and says that Cena doesn’t deserve a Title match, that shot should be his! Cena is confused and tells Del Rio that he lost, period. Del Rio says that Laurinaitis said that if Punk was intentionally disqualified, Del Rio would win the Title. Del Rio shows the clip of Punk using the exposed turnbuckle. Del Rio claims that Punk cheated, thus he should be the WWE Champion.

“Excuse Me”! Vickie Guerrero walks down to the ring with Dolph Ziggler. The fans don’t appreciate her presence. She claims that Dolph Ziggler deserves the shot. Ziggler says that he defeated Randy Orton last week on RAW, he’s the longest reigning Champion on RAW right now, and has the best matches every week. Cena mocks Michael Cole for shoving the new “show-off” moniker for Ziggler down everyone’s throats last week. Cena says Ziggler should be known as the “jerk-off”. Ziggler says he backs up his show-off claims every night. Cena tells him if he really wants to back it up then he needs to give the one person who does deserve a US Title shot, a shot at the Title – Zack Ryder! Ziggler laughs it off and puts himself over as everyone’s favorite “hashtag heel”.

The Miz’s music hits and he walks down to the ring. He begins a series of “really’s”. He puts over that the Slammy’s are next week. He tries to make the case for why he deserves a shot at the Title, but John Laurinaitis appears on the ramp to interrupt. Laurinaitis says that he has been falsely accused by CM Punk of being a boring figurehead that can’t make creative decisions. He announces that all of the competitors in the ring will be facing superstars tonight. If they win their matches, they will be automatically entered into the WWE Title Match against CM Punk at TLC. Except for Cena…

Laurinaitis has a special match for Cena tonight, that he calls a “social experiment”. Cena will have to report to him to find out who his opponent will be tonight! Also, there will be a live contract signing with CM Punk tonight in the ring.

****Commercial****

The Miz v. Randy Orton

They square off and Miz is dropped by a shoulder block. He’s back to his feet quick and kicks Orton in the gut followed by a couple of punches. Orton fights back and hits a vertical suplex. Miz kicks out of the cover and goes to a side headlock. Orton punches free, but gets caught by Miz’s backbreaker/neckbreaker combo. Miz slides behind Orton and locks on a rear headlock. Orton escapes with a back body drop. Miz charges at Orton, but gets dropped with a clothesline and then the snap scoop slam. Orton sets up for the suspended DDT, but Miz slips off the ropes and throws Orton out of the ring. Miz slides out of the ring and charges at Orton, only to get caught with a snap scoop slam on the outside!

Wade Barrett’s music hits and he walks slowly down to the ring. Orton at first looks to ignore him and rolls Miz back into the ring. Orton then turns his attention towards Wade and rushes up the ramp. The referee counts him out!

Winner via Countout: The Miz

After the match, Orton considers walking back down to attack Miz for picking up the win, but Wade runs up from behind and takes out Orton.

The Miz will now face CM Punk at the TLC PPV for the WWE Title

****Commercial****

Zack Ryder is in the back talking to John Laurinaitis and claims he has over 24,000 signatures on his online petition. Laurinaitis says that Ziggler is complaining that a petition isn’t enough to earn a shot, and he is inclined to agree. Cena walks into the back and is dressed as Zack Ryder. He mocks Laurinaitis for a couple of moments, and then asks what the big social experiment match will be tonight. Laurinaitis announces it as Cena v. Ryder! Cena protests, arguing that this match doesn’t need to happen. Laurinaitis says that if Ryder wins the match, he will earn a shot at the US Title. If Cena wins the match, he will be added into the WWE Title match at TLC!

David Otunga is in the back with Kevin Nash, and says that Nash will be facing HHH at TLC in a ladder match! Nash says that he doesn’t do ladder matches. Otunga explains that it is not a normal ladder match; there will be a sledgehammer hung over the ring and it can be used until there is a winner. Nash says that with that stipulation, he can do a ladder match after all. Also, it is announced that Nash will be in action tonight!

****Commercial****

Alberto Del Rio v. Daniel Bryan

Daniel Bryan’s ribs are bandaged heavily from his match against Mark Henry. Alberto goes right for the ribs and connects with kicks and punches. Bryan flips out of the corner and connects with a knee, but falls to the mat in pain. Bryan hits a couple of kicks, and then locks on a guillotine. Rio escapes by dropping Bryan rib first over the top rope. Del Rio goes for the cross arm breaker, and Bryan taps immediately.

Winner via Cross Arm Breaker: Alberto Del Rio

Alberto Del Rio will face The Miz & CM Punk at TLC for the WWE Title.

****Commercial****

Beth Phoenix & Natalya v. Eve Torres & Kelly Kelly w/ Alicia Fox

Beth takes it to Kelly at the start. She drops her to the mat with a rear headlock. Kelly tries to punch free but is dropped with a backbreaker. Beth turns her attention towards Eve in the corner and Alicia Fox on the outside. As she turns back, Kelly catches her in a roll up! This match is over.

Winners: Eve Torres & Kelly Kelly

****Commercial****

Zack Ryder v. John Cena

They shake hands before the bell rings. They lock up and Cena takes him down to the mat with a side headlock. Cena bounces off the ropes and hits a shoulder block. Ryder leap frogs a charge, and hits a forearm shot. Ryder puts on a side headlock of his own. Cena reverses and goes back to his own. Ryder escapes and hits a nice front drop. Cover, but Cena kicks out. Ryder drops right down and goes back to the side headlock. The crowd is very mixed as the competitors continue to exchange side headlocks. Cena looks for the AA, but Ryder avoids. Ryder then looks for the Rough Ryder, but Cena dodges and begins the 5 Moves of Doom. Cena hits the shoulder blocks and side slam followed by the 5 Knuckle Shuffle! Ryder scurries off his shoulders and pushes Cena into the corner. Ryder fist pumps and connects with the running boot! Ryder sets up for the Rough Ryder once again, but Cena catches him and hits the Attitude Adjustment! This match is over.

Winner via Attitude Adjustment: John Cena

After the match Cena helps up Ryder, but Ryder isn’t pleased. He says that this was his one shot. Cena holds up his finger and heads to the back.

****Commercial****

John Laurinaitis is in the back with David Otunga. Cena walks in and kicks Otunga out of the office. Cena tells him to put Ryder in the match for the US Championship. Laurinaitis says that Ryder either blew his opportunity, or Cena blew it for him. Laurinaitis says that Ryder can have one more match tonight; if he wins he can have another shot. But, just to get that chance, Cena must give up his WWE Title shot at TLC! Cena says he is a 10 time WWE Champion, so he will give up his shot to give Zack Ryder a chance. Ryder will have his next match, next!

****Commercial****

David Otunga tells Justin Roberts that this match will be a No Disqualification, No Count Out match in order to ensure that there is a winner.

Zack Ryder v. Mark Henry

Henry pushes Ryder to the mat and begins to stomp on him. He lifts Ryder up only to head butt him and continue with the attack. Ryder gets to his feet and connects with a couple punches, but is quickly thrown down. Henry is kicking him, but Ryder slides out of the ring and throws the injured ankle of Henry into the steel post. Ryder hits his fist pump boot kick, but Henry throws him clear across the ring for his troubles. Cena runs down to the ring and lifts Henry up into the air. Cena hits the Attitude Adjustment, and puts Ryder on Henry to make the cover! This match is over!

Winner via John Cena: Zack Ryder

In the back, Ziggler is with Swagger and Vickie. Vickie tells Ziggler that he will be facing Sheamus tonight in his WWE Title qualifying match. Ziggler tells Swagger he doesn’t want him at ringside tonight, because he doesn’t want him screwing things up. Swagger takes offense and says that Ziggler is only US Champion still thanks to his help; Ziggler laughs and says he was joking. But, Swagger still can’t come down to ringside for his match tonight.

****Commercial****

Kevin Nash v. Santino Marella

Nash walks down to the ring with a sledgehammer. He places it on the commentary booth before entering the ring.

Nash whips Santino into the ropes and hits a side slam. Cover, but Santino kicks out. Santino is whipped into the ropes again, and gets dropped with a big boot. Nash lifts him to his feet and hits a Jackknife Powerbomb. This match is over!

Winner via Jackknife Powerbomb: Kevin Nash

After the match, Nash retrieves his sledgehammer and reenters the ring. He holds it over his head, but doesn’t attack Santino.

****Commercial****

Dolph Ziggler v. Sheamus

Ziggler dodges a lock up, and takes the moment to gloat. Sheamus responds by raking his forearm across Ziggler’s face on the mat. Sheamus lifts him up and places him between the ropes so he can connect with his bludgeoning blows across the chest. Cover, but Ziggler kicks out. Ziggler goes after the arm, and then the neck of Sheamus. Ziggler locks on a rear headlock, and gets Sheamus dazed. Ziggler connects with his leg drop, but Sheamus kicks out of the cover. Ziggler immediately goes to a headlock, but Sheamus powers out and tosses Ziggler across the ring. Sheamus charges with hammer blows, and then hits a couple of headbutts for good measure. Sheamus pulls Ziggler out of the corner only to clothesline him to the mat. Sheamus lifts Dolph up for the Cross, but Ziggler scurries down and escapes.

“Oh Radio”! Zack Ryder’s music hits and he runs down to the ring, but stops on the outside. The distraction is all Sheamus needs to connect with the Brogue Kick, this match is over!

Winner via Brogue Kick: Sheamus

After the match, Zack Ryder climbs in the ring and hits Dolph Ziggler with the Rough Ryder! He lifts up the US Title to tease a celebration and the crowd responds with a big, “Woo Woo Woo”.

****Commercial****

The Miz and Alberto Del Rio w/ Ricardo Rodriguez are in the ring for tonight’s contract signing. John Laurinaitis is introduced and he makes the announcement that John Cena will be facing Mark Henry next week on RAW. Laurinaitis acknowledges that by winning their matches tonight, Del Rio & Miz will face CM Punk. Cult of Personality hits, and Punk makes his way down to the ring.

Punk gets in the ring and moves the table and chairs out of the way. Punk says that contract signings are the biggest clichés in the industry. Every signing turns into a Pier Six Brawl. So, Punk says that they might as well just sign the paper and fight. Laurinaitis announces that the Triple Threat Match at TLC will be… a Tables, Ladders & Chairs Match.

Punk laughs and says he isn’t worried about beating the guy he pinned last week, and the guy who lost at Survivor Series. Miz asks if Punk missed him taking out John Morrison & R-Truth. Laurinaitis then takes the moment to wish Morrison the best in all his future endeavors! Miz says that if Punk really wants to make the Title picture interesting again, then it will be because he takes back the Championship. Punk says that unlike The Miz, he doesn’t have TMZ on speed dial; he only cares about being the best wrestler in the world.

Alberto Del Rio steps up and says that he is in the best in the world. In 2011 he won the Royal Rumble, Money in the Bank, and the WWE Title. So, he is going to end 2011 by beating Punk for the Title once again. Punk interrupts and says that if Del Rio starts talking about his destiny he is going to start drinking. Miz says that Del Rio and he may be friends, but they will tear each other apart to win the Title. The one thing that they do agree on is that come TLC, Punk will not walk out as Champion.

Miz, then Del Rio sign their contracts. Punk has a mic and says; once he signs it they can get to fighting right? John says no, just sign. Punk signs on the dotted line. Laurinaitis then officially announces the match, and wishes the three men good luck. The crowd is chanting for them to fight. John then asks for a photographer from WWE.com to get in the ring and take a picture. Punk is angry, and says even the contract signings with John are boring, they need to end in brawls.

Punk has had enough, and just begins the attack himself. Miz is thrown out of the ring, and Punk goes after Ricardo. Del Rio attacks Punk, but Miz comes in to interrupt. As a result Punk hits a bulldog on Del Rio through the table! Miz gets hit with a GTS.

Punk grabs his Title and poses as the show goes off the air.

I thought it was an excellent Raw, Kevin Nash aside.

And the Cena/Ryder thing was brilliant, it doesn't scream "heel turn" as sodhat wrote, but it does look like another little thing that causes Cena to eventually snap.

Marky wrote:I thought it was an excellent Raw, Kevin Nash aside.

And the Cena/Ryder thing was brilliant, it doesn't scream "heel turn" as sodhat wrote, but it does look like another little thing that causes Cena to eventually snap.

Thinking about it, it could work out better.

Imagine Ryder winning the US Title, and then Cena not being involved in the title match. Cena could build resentment, and the fact that despite doing something good and kind, he'd still get booed! It works both ways I suppose.

Unless of course there is no heel turn and the WWE are just trying to have Cena absorb some of Ryder's popularity (never thought I'd be writing those words).

Now punk is superman will everyone start to hate him?

Ent wrote:Now punk is superman will everyone start to hate him?

Only if it goes on for 4 years straight.

Marky wrote:

Ent wrote:Now punk is superman will everyone start to hate him?

Only if it goes on for 4 years straight.

I don't think it suits his character or his build.

Kevin Nash vs Triple H in a ladder match? WHO THE Flip BOOKED THAT?!?!?!

Ent wrote:Now punk is superman will everyone start to hate him?

Man have you got a grudge or what? Since when does the World Champion coming out on top in a 3 man brawl, not a 2 vs 1 but 3 individual guys mean he's superman?

Who do you think should be in his spot and why?

sodhat wrote:Having read them this morning, I get the feeling that Cena should have refused to help Ryder out, if they are indeed going for the slow turn.

It wouldn't have been outright unfair, and he could have been a bit remorseful, but the fact he gave away his shot for Ryder doesn't scream 'heel turn' to me.

While everything you say is true, Cena refusing Ryder's wishes would have been to quick. This has to be done slowly so if the turn were to happen, it reaches boiling point at Wrestlemania.

The other side to it is that if Cena was to turn, Ryder is the perfect candidate to join Cena's crew in my opinion.

the-gaffer wrote:

Ent wrote:Now punk is superman will everyone start to hate him?

Man have you got a grudge or what? Since when does the World Champion coming out on top in a 3 man brawl, not a 2 vs 1 but 3 individual guys mean he's superman?

Who do you think should be in his spot and why?

Like i said above I don't think it suits his character or build.

Starting a brawl with 2 former world champions, putting one through a table and using your finisher on another is monster heel territory. Punks already got the most freedom on the mic.

Punks gimmick is the best wrestler in the world, I've no problem with that but the tlc match is a real leveller.
I'd have booked a ladder match as they all have pedigree there but I guess the main event needs to be a tlc and the champ should be in the main event.

Don Caboose wrote:

sodhat wrote:Having read them this morning, I get the feeling that Cena should have refused to help Ryder out, if they are indeed going for the slow turn.

It wouldn't have been outright unfair, and he could have been a bit remorseful, but the fact he gave away his shot for Ryder doesn't scream 'heel turn' to me.

While everything you say is true, Cena refusing Ryder's wishes would have been to quick. This has to be done slowly so if the turn were to happen, it reaches boiling point at Wrestlemania.

The other side to it is that if Cena was to turn, Ryder is the perfect candidate to join Cena's crew in my opinion.

I was thinking that exact thing too, Don. A faction for a heel Cena would be effective, and Ryder fits the bill to be a part of it.

I can see the benefit of a slow build to the turn, it would certainly be refreshing to have something pan out over a long period, too. I imagine he will continue to grow disillusioned that the fans boo him regardless and come Mania in Miami, he'll snap. Makes perfect sense! So why do I get the sneaking feeling that things won't pan out this way...

sodhat wrote:

Don Caboose wrote:

sodhat wrote:Having read them this morning, I get the feeling that Cena should have refused to help Ryder out, if they are indeed going for the slow turn.

It wouldn't have been outright unfair, and he could have been a bit remorseful, but the fact he gave away his shot for Ryder doesn't scream 'heel turn' to me.

While everything you say is true, Cena refusing Ryder's wishes would have been to quick. This has to be done slowly so if the turn were to happen, it reaches boiling point at Wrestlemania.

The other side to it is that if Cena was to turn, Ryder is the perfect candidate to join Cena's crew in my opinion.

I was thinking that exact thing too, Don. A faction for a heel Cena would be effective, and Ryder fits the bill to be a part of it.

I can see the benefit of a slow build to the turn, it would certainly be refreshing to have something pan out over a long period, too. I imagine he will continue to grow disillusioned that the fans boo him regardless and come Mania in Miami, he'll snap. Makes perfect sense! So why do I get the sneaking feeling that things won't pan out this way...

Same reason we all have the that nagging feeling of doubt, for as long as I can remember now, the WWE has managed to bungle seemingly surefire angles or snatch mediocrity from the jaws of brilliance. Cena specifically has been booked into interesting situations only to come out on top in the most Boy Scout way possible.

But we can all hope I guess!

Ent wrote:

the-gaffer wrote:

Ent wrote:Now punk is superman will everyone start to hate him?

Man have you got a grudge or what? Since when does the World Champion coming out on top in a 3 man brawl, not a 2 vs 1 but 3 individual guys mean he's superman?

Who do you think should be in his spot and why?

Like i said above I don't think it suits his character or build.

Starting a brawl with 2 former world champions, putting one through a table and using your finisher on another is monster heel territory. Punks already got the most freedom on the mic.

Punks gimmick is the best wrestler in the world, I've no problem with that but the tlc match is a real leveller.
I'd have booked a ladder match as they all have pedigree there but I guess the main event needs to be a tlc and the champ should be in the main event.

He was surrounded by enemies, you'd expect he'd strike first since he knows they will go for him, the only reason he got the upper hand was because the untrust-worthy heels turned on one another

I don't think the M.E has to be TLC, Christian and Benjamin had a TLC in 09 and that went on first

I feel just a ladder match would have been better but Del Rio has already lost a WHC Ladder match and won MITB so maybe they felt another straight up ladder match involving him and the title inside 7 months was a bit overkill

Triple H vs Kevin Nash in a ladder match, if at least om quad dosn't blow I riot

What happened after Raw

Dolph Ziggler won the 41 man battle royale. The participants all came down to the Raw theme and was most of the roster and FCW guys. Justin Roberts didn’t know a few guys’ names so he just skipped them. Participants included Skip Sheffield, Husky Harris and Richie Steamboat.

- CM Punk beat Ziggler in a title match that went about 5 minutes with the GTS. Punk celebrated with the fans to close the show.

Source: wrestlingobserver.com

So Brodus wasn't introduced again?

Dr Gregory House MD wrote:Triple H vs Kevin Nash in a ladder match, if at least om quad dosn't blow I riot

Both Nash and HHH blow quads as they climb the ladder, and Vince is so furious that they botch the ending that he storms down the ramp, gets in the ring and blows his quad.

I don't think the M.E has to be TLC, Christian and Benjamin had a TLC in 09 and that went on first

Actually , this was a Ladder match for the ECW title

I think they played the Cena/Ryder thing well, have Ryder lose desperate for another shot Cena trys to help again, gets blamed for Ryder not getting another shot. Cena says he doesn't understand first the fans got at him for always being around the title, he gives up his shot so Ryder could have a go at the US title. Then he tries helping Ryder again when he failed yet the fans still boo him for what he tries to do.

Well along those lines...

the-gaffer wrote:

I feel just a ladder match would have been better but Del Rio has already lost a WHC Ladder match and won MITB so maybe they felt another straight up ladder match involving him and the title inside 7 months was a bit overkill

I said it before, since Del Rio made his Smackdown deubut at the end of June 2010, this will be the 4th ladder based gimmick match he has been involved in, he's averaged one every 4.25 months, who says there is gimmick overkill in the WWE

Miz Came To Play wrote:

I don't think the M.E has to be TLC, Christian and Benjamin had a TLC in 09 and that went on first

Actually , this was a Ladder match for the ECW title

Yeah I knew it was for the ECW Title, I thought it was a TLC, was it DX and JeriShow that had the TLC match? I know Sheamus & Cena had the table match and Taker and whoever did a chairs match

Less than impressed with Raw this week.

No hype build up for the Nash HHH match at all.

No Brodus Clay ... AGAIN !

I recon that promo for 1/2/11 is Kharma

Positves is Zack Ryder gets his title match at cena's expense

WWE slammy awards next week !

the-gaffer wrote:

Ent wrote:

the-gaffer wrote:

Ent wrote:Now punk is superman will everyone start to hate him?

Man have you got a grudge or what? Since when does the World Champion coming out on top in a 3 man brawl, not a 2 vs 1 but 3 individual guys mean he's superman?

Who do you think should be in his spot and why?

Like i said above I don't think it suits his character or build.

Starting a brawl with 2 former world champions, putting one through a table and using your finisher on another is monster heel territory. Punks already got the most freedom on the mic.

Punks gimmick is the best wrestler in the world, I've no problem with that but the tlc match is a real leveller.
I'd have booked a ladder match as they all have pedigree there but I guess the main event needs to be a tlc and the champ should be in the main event.

He was surrounded by enemies, you'd expect he'd strike first since he knows they will go for him, the only reason he got the upper hand was because the untrust-worthy heels turned on one another

I don't think the M.E has to be TLC, Christian and Benjamin had a TLC in 09 and that went on first

I feel just a ladder match would have been better but Del Rio has already lost a WHC Ladder match and won MITB so maybe they felt another straight up ladder match involving him and the title inside 7 months was a bit overkill

Perhaps they did, storywise i feel it would have made more sense/logic- I don't think we would complain if he was frequently in the same gimmick match if it made sense storyline wise.

I dont mind punk starting the scrap, it's the whole scenario that baffles me.

Punk buries them on the mic, starts the fight, then puts ADR through a table and a finisher on Miz.

ADR has won rr, in whc match at wm, won mitb and the title and has been booked like a chump over the last few weeks. Even if you feel he just had the title for the live raw in Mexico and wasn't drawing he just doesn't seem credible now.

Miz looked strong for once putting truth and Morrison out, then only makes the tlc match because of interference and gets whooped at the end.

Just could have been better in my opinion.

Nash looked horrible in the ring and that's some achievement as he was in there for under 2 minutes executing (poorly) about 3 moves.

His match at TLC with HHH is straight out of the Russo book of odd matches. It's the sort of match that would make me not order a PPV. So in that respect, I guess Nash does draw, only negatively.

The ending of the Orton/Miz match was bizarre. Orton listens to the count get to 8 then decides to chase Barrett only to be suprised when he's counted out!

The Cena story is intruiging as others have said. Difficult to tell where they are headed with it. They probably don't know themselves. Also, no match at TLC for the E's biggest drawing star? Is he injured?

Haven't a notion who the 2 Jan video is about!

Shane and Stephanie rang a bell, the little boy standing in tne corner being puinished coule represent Shane leaving and the little girl pulling him out of the corner being Stephanie, back to reclaim what's rghtfully theirs, the WWE

Or .......with the frequent appearences of a basketball it could be Batista

Going with the vocabularly used though it screams Jericho and it being directed at Punk

"The deception the weak have perpatrated will be castigated"

Jericho confronting Punk about the 'best in the world' moniker and wanting to reclaim it for himself

Surely the basketballs in both videos only point to one thing - the return of Dennis Rodman!

I think it probably is jericho, but with the biblical language/bible quotes (in the first one) could it be Ministry of Darkness Undertaker?

My origional thought when I first saw it was Vince McMahon, and the apperances of the little girl suggest to me it will be with Steph in tow.

'Come to take back what was mine'- The WWE obviously

and as gaffer said

"The deception the weak have perpatrated will be castigated"

Is this a referance to Johnny Ace, deceving and conspiring against HHH and possibly McMahon to achieve power in the WWE

I think it's definitely meant for Jericho but they are putting enough hints in that it could be anyone if Jericho doesn't re-sign

Another mix bag for me....

Nash vs Hunter in a ladder match? This has train wreck written all over it. Bash was abysmal in a 1 minute squash against Santino, how's he meant to hold his own for 20 minutes in a match that favours dare devil high flyers? At least they can really on the fact he's in there with a risk taking bump machine.... Oh wait a second....

Ryder vs Cena, I like the intrigue & the match but why didn't Cena just let Ryder win in the 1st place? It appears you can just threaten the GM & he'll bow down to your demands eventually.

Liked the contract signing the set up was a nice novel bit of booking at the start of the show. Punk threatening to start drinking was funny.... I'm still willing to stake a large amount of money on John Cena being involved in this title match somehow

I thought the same thing originally about Cena losing the first match, although that would be slightly out of character for superman to lose on purpose. I think it made more sense they way they ended up doing it to be fair.

Excellent Raw. One of the most enjoyable for some time

I actually thought it looked more like an ADAA approved Dodgeball than a basketball...but maybe that's just me.

Very interesting Raw, Cena is much better when he is serious and not when he is joking about, when he shouted at otunga, i laughed my ass of hahah. AND FINALLY ZACK RYDER GETS A SHOT AT THE TITLE WOO WOO WOO YOU KNOW IT.