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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 16 Feb 2012, 10:43 am

First topic message reminder :

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Again, apologies for the source. The genuine answer is that I have a friend who is a huge boxing fan and also happens to read the Mail, he sends me stuff. Honestly.

Anyway, one of the pictures shows Del Boy looking in terrific shape, especially compared to some other pictures of him sporting breasts that Katie Price would be envious of.

He looks like he is taking this one very seriously, as well he should, but will it make any difference? Now he is in shape, I can see him making the final bell and dropping a decision to Vitali. If he was in the kind of shape he was in for Tyson Fury then I would have expected Vitali to break him down and stop him late, but now he looks trim, I can see him landing enough to keep Vitali honest and having the condition to see the final bell.

Anyone agree, or is he just a lamb to the slaughter?

I would have made a poll, but I couldn't be bothered.

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Post by jimdig Fri 17 Feb 2012, 3:24 pm

This fat / muscle debate and impact on boxing is pointless, nearly every fighter that has to make a weight (i.e, crusier and below) is pretty much ripped. Stamina is not an issue and fat is not an advantage.

Unless you have enough to make you impervious to the hook to the body, but that'd be a pretty crappy fighting strategy.

As for Del, he made an effort (from his last couple of fights) fair play, but he still gets pounded.

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Post by oxring Fri 17 Feb 2012, 7:56 pm

johnson2 wrote:
oxring wrote:Thought I replied with exactly the same tone as you had used to me johnson. Its a question anyway. I'm not saying you are a meathead gym-bunny whose understanding of nutrition and sports science comes from the back of a maximuscle packet. I'm asking if you are. Big difference.

Anyway. You're not impressed by Chisora's physique. Methinks that it won't be his physique that holds him back against Vitali. Skill and experience are more pressing concerns.

Why do people have issues with 'meatheads'? If someone has the dedication to get themself in fantastic physical shape it should be applauded, not insulted with pathetic name calling.

I've been called a meat head a few time I suppose, doesnt really offend me. See is as a back handed compliment, they can obviously recognise that I work out.

I also dont like Maxi Muscle, more of an Optimum Nutrition man.

Because wandering into a gym doesn't qualify you to know anything about sports science. Or boxing performance.

By your logic - Larry Holmes should have lost to Weaver. Or Snipes. Both of whom were more cut than him.
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Post by EdWoodjr Fri 17 Feb 2012, 8:06 pm

A ludicrous mismatch in prospect and the 10/1 being offered for Dr Ironfist in 6 will do for me. Chisora will be so far out of his depth it'll be an embarrassment.

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Post by tunes666 Sat 18 Feb 2012, 5:47 pm

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:I think chisora should make the final bell.

He took huge shots from helenius and fury and was never close to getting stopped. I know these 2 don't hit as hard but they are very big men and have good knockouts on there CV's.

He looks good though. He will need speed and stamina to even past 6 rounds. The problem for me is will he get on the inside, vitali may be slow but he controls the range very well and will outmuscle you on the inside. Derek doesn't have the power imo to discourage vitali

I will go for a UD, although you must wonder why he didn't take the fury fight seriously

I actually think the Ks have over rated power, they certainly have power but they usually grind people down with the jab and in the later rounds there rights are felt..

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Post by oxring Sat 18 Feb 2012, 6:47 pm

tunes666 wrote:
WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:I think chisora should make the final bell.

He took huge shots from helenius and fury and was never close to getting stopped. I know these 2 don't hit as hard but they are very big men and have good knockouts on there CV's.

He looks good though. He will need speed and stamina to even past 6 rounds. The problem for me is will he get on the inside, vitali may be slow but he controls the range very well and will outmuscle you on the inside. Derek doesn't have the power imo to discourage vitali

I will go for a UD, although you must wonder why he didn't take the fury fight seriously

I actually think the Ks have over rated power, they certainly have power but they usually grind people down with the jab and in the later rounds there rights are felt..

Depends what you mean by power really tunes.

Carlos Monzon knocked out 59 men - through brutal accumulation. That counts just as much as 1 punch KO power - a la Julian Jackson.

In fact - many of the fighters throughout history with the highest career KO percentages - have KOd people more by accumulation than a single moment of genius.
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Post by TopHat24/7 Sat 18 Feb 2012, 7:59 pm

EdWoodjr wrote:A ludicrous mismatch in prospect and the 10/1 being offered for Dr Ironfist in 6 will do for me. Chisora will be so far out of his depth it'll be an embarrassment.

Where're those odds, Ed?

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Post by EdWoodjr Sat 18 Feb 2012, 10:01 pm

What the hell is this ? Last night of the proms ?

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