Fantasy Aviva Premiership Season 1 - Homepage

by Bathite Sat 14 Apr 2012, 9:24 pm

First topic message reminder :

NEWS

Bathite named manager of the year and receives a £20m cash bonus

Fluxy fined £4m following a breach of club discipline. Manager seen wearing women's clothes in the early hours of the morning in Bath city centre, a day before teamsheets named

by Bathite Tue 17 Apr 2012, 11:59 pm

Yep, fair point, hadn't thought that through.

Not against anything that you have suggested and I get why you're trying it, good to open it up for discussion. Personally, I'm hoping that a clean slate and a new season should balance things out. Don't think that there is much in the squads to be honest. Probably a gap between the top 2 and the rest, but the rest is a dogfight. Sarries got nailed by the 6ns for example.

Like that you're giving us a bit of warning of ideas, really appreciate it, as i'm the kind of loser who has transfer target lists and plots how much money i might have in the future, so pre warning really helps.

How about limiting the number of injuries for lower clubs? Not realistic and probably a c rap idea, but it's just a thought. 6 injuries and for extended periods seems quite a lot.

by Fluxy Wed 18 Apr 2012, 12:02 am

Its hurt me in my relegation run in my injuries! But it's something that can't really be avoided. Could we try and revamp the injuries, so that it was fewer, but a little bit more often? With say a bit more difference in length of injuries?

I think that a start from the beginning will help everyone, allows everyone to build the squad. Whereas we didn't have much chance in this half a season.

by Bathite Wed 18 Apr 2012, 12:04 am

Have the relegation rules been finalised?

by Fluxy Wed 18 Apr 2012, 3:08 pm

Looking for deals for next season. All players available with the exception of Corbs, Hudson, Brussow, Pienaar. Unless it's a biggy for them

by CJB Wed 18 Apr 2012, 4:54 pm

Also looking for deals for next season. Centres are available basically everyone could go. Need huge for Carter/Genia/Morgan

by pullthestrings Wed 18 Apr 2012, 5:10 pm

For sale for cash:

Clarke Dermody (LH) [NZL] (Captain)
James Buckland (HK) [ENG]
Leo Halavatau (TH) [TON]
Paulică Ion (TH) [ROM]
Faan Rautenbach (TH) [RSA]
Bryn Evans (LK) [NZL]
Steve Mafi (LK) [ENG]
Richard Thorpe (FL) [ENG]
Ally Hogg (N8) [SCO]
Tom Guest (N8) [ENG]
Jebb Sinclair (N8) [CAN]
Darren Allinson (SH) [WAL]
Daniel Bowden (FH/IC) [NZL]
Shane Geraghty (FH/IC) [ENG]
Shontayne Hape (IC/OC) [ENG]
Regan King (OC) [NZL]
Jamie Noon (OC) [ENG]
Jonathan Spratt (IC/OC) [WAL]
Ryan Shortland (OC/WG) [NZL]
Paul Diggin (WG) [ENG]
Topsy Ojo (WG) [ENG]
Adam Thompstone (WG) [ENG] (on loan at Newcastle)

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 18 Apr 2012, 5:17 pm

What kind of price for Ojo & Bowden Pull?

by pullthestrings Wed 18 Apr 2012, 5:19 pm

Ojo - £17 mil
Bowden - £24 mil

Around that mark. Would prefer to hold onto Bowden hence the big price tag.

by Fluxy Wed 18 Apr 2012, 5:20 pm

Are any of those availabe for a deal?

by pullthestrings Wed 18 Apr 2012, 5:21 pm

Yep, all of them.

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 18 Apr 2012, 5:22 pm

Little excessive for an uncapped player....Nonu was only 25m

by pullthestrings Wed 18 Apr 2012, 5:32 pm

Aye I know, I did say he had a high price tag. Would need immediate replacement and a foreign of his calibre would cost in excess of £24 mil.

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 18 Apr 2012, 5:39 pm

I'm out at 24m

by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 18 Apr 2012, 9:58 pm

So Dan Bowden is the 2nd best IC in the world? Because thats what I'd be expecting to get for 24m from the foreigns

by Bathite Wed 18 Apr 2012, 10:06 pm

He's only overpricing because he doesn't want to sell, I get it. For the same reasons Castro was valued at £35m at the start of the season!

by Fluxy Wed 18 Apr 2012, 10:09 pm

Whereas Jimmy gopperth was worth a pint and a packet of crisps...

by stnick88 Wed 18 Apr 2012, 10:17 pm

oi lay off Gopperth! he has been good for falcons in there recent revival

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 18 Apr 2012, 10:21 pm

Bathite wrote:He's only overpricing because he doesn't want to sell, I get it. For the same reasons Castro was valued at £35m at the start of the season!

Castro is arguably the best TH in the world and would have cost 25ish in foreigns. Buying him for 35m would have saved you a foreign transfer.

Dan Bowden is not one of the best 12's in the world.

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 18 Apr 2012, 10:22 pm

Why list him for sale if you dont want to sell him.....

by pullthestrings Wed 18 Apr 2012, 10:26 pm

Bowden would be around £20 mil in foreigns. Using your logic his price tag is justified. Your pricing was at a 40% mark up, mine 20%.

You've also got to account for the loss of losing your fly half for 2-3 weeks whilst you 'bed in' your new fly half.

by Fluxy Wed 18 Apr 2012, 10:34 pm

There is logic, but no one has that kind of money at the moment.

Anyway I'd much rather save my dollar.

Pooly, are they U21 bids for next season?

by Bathite Wed 18 Apr 2012, 10:37 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
Bathite wrote:He's only overpricing because he doesn't want to sell, I get it. For the same reasons Castro was valued at £35m at the start of the season!

Castro is arguably the best TH in the world and would have cost 25ish in foreigns. Buying him for 35m would have saved you a foreign transfer.

Dan Bowden is not one of the best 12's in the world.

It's all about mark up, as pull has just said. Needless to say, no one will pay that much for either player

by Fluxy Wed 18 Apr 2012, 10:39 pm

They're ain't no Blogs 'ere Wink

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 18 Apr 2012, 11:17 pm

Bowden would not be 20m in foreigns

Castro is one of best in world in position, Bowdon not one of best in AP. Get some realism.

Bowden would go for around 15m in foreigns

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 18 Apr 2012, 11:23 pm

As a guide:

Standout in position - 25m +
World class player - 22 - 25m
Top Class Int - 20 - 23m
Int - 16 - 23m
Non Int - 10 - 18m

Where do you get 20m from???!

Castro was priced at that level as there's nobody better for 25m and it would not cost a foreign. I can think of 20 IC's better than Bowden,

by Fluxy Wed 18 Apr 2012, 11:26 pm

bit wound up Pooly? lol

by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 18 Apr 2012, 11:28 pm

To be fair still some better options out there but I'd rate Bowden as one of the best 12s in the Prem. Cracking little player when on the front foot. Going to Tigers will be the making of him.

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 18 Apr 2012, 11:33 pm

I like Bowden mate, tidy player. 24m player he is not.

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 18 Apr 2012, 11:44 pm

To be fair that is Pulls valuation of Bowden, the debate just happened on main page and Bathite needed to chip in as normal.

Bowden would be a 15m (ish) player in foreigns, if somebody wants to pay 20m for him it is up to them.

by Driver Wed 18 Apr 2012, 11:47 pm

FOLLOWING AVAILABLE

Rob Buchanan
Mark Lambert (TH/LH)
James Johnston (TH)
Chris Budgen (TH/LH)
George Robson
Ollie Kohn
George Skivington
Will Skinner
Nick Easter
Neil Best
Nic Berry
Ruki Tipuna
Danny Cipriani
Riki Flutey
Sam Stuart
Scott Hamilton
Sam Smith
Tom Williams
Hugo Southwell
Ollie Lindsay-Hague
Greg Goosen[/b]

by Fluxy Wed 18 Apr 2012, 11:48 pm

by Bathite Thu 19 Apr 2012, 7:22 am

Keep your hair on pooly.

Bowden was £10m overpriced Castro was £10m overpriced, you both had your reasons for it

by **Ozzy3213** Thu 19 Apr 2012, 7:39 am

by Bathite Thu 19 Apr 2012, 7:44 am

Whilst on the subject of Bowden, doesn't he become EQ in real life quite soon? Would that make him EQ on here? Joe Maddick is eligible to play for England, is he EQ on here? Matt carraro also about to marry his English wife so becomes EQ, does that count?

by prop_lyd Thu 19 Apr 2012, 8:39 am

You got any of that popcorn left Ozzy?!

by **Ozzy3213** Thu 19 Apr 2012, 8:56 am

Ah, just finished it prop, only got m&m's left now Wink

by Bathite Thu 19 Apr 2012, 9:04 am

Pete - you run the other game don't you? What do you think the question on EQs?

by Sgt_Pooly Thu 19 Apr 2012, 9:12 am

Bathite wrote:Keep your hair on pooly.

Bowden was £10m overpriced Castro was £10m overpriced, you both had your reasons for it

Ah ok, you done mark ups before to try and make point but that doesn't work now. You're still not really getting it but never mind.

A foreign player declaring himself EQ doesn't become EQ till he plays for the Saxons.

by Bathite Thu 19 Apr 2012, 9:31 am

Thanks for clarifying. Don't get upset because he is your player, but has Waldrom actually been capped yet? Thought that he had only been in training squads and wasn't picked for Saxons, so is he in limbo? Surely he should count as an EQ?

by Driver Thu 19 Apr 2012, 9:32 am

Waldrom played Saxons vs the wolfhounds

by stnick88 Thu 19 Apr 2012, 9:33 am

scored a try as well

by Bathite Thu 19 Apr 2012, 9:56 am

Oh, in that case, not even an issue! Didn't realise that, he obviously deserves to be EQ

by Sgt_Pooly Thu 19 Apr 2012, 10:02 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Evening lads....

Thoughts on the following:

1. Next season 1/2 point for win rather than 1 (make results closer)

2. Ways to even up league in close season
a- Cash injection (more for lower teams)
b- Draft of players

3. U21 bids, would people prefer a draft of players to save budgets?

4. As English is staying at 4 in team and 8 in squad, how about having to name a number of U21 players in starting lineup (English or foreign)?

Thoughts welcome, this is our league so looking to keep things going and hopefully last as long as Orig AP. I just want to keep things competitve and not make it into an all stars game

by Londonirishollie Thu 19 Apr 2012, 2:45 pm

1. Yes agree with this. You can be predicted to by everyone to lose by 1 point and end up without a LBP so yes good idea.

2.I think i'd prefer more choice over who i was going for, so would prefer cash injection but not overly bothered.

3.U21 draft i think is a good idea

4.Not sure. I've got a poor academy but as long as it nots too many players i wouldn't mind.

Geraghty coming back - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/17770891

by Sgt_Pooly Thu 19 Apr 2012, 2:55 pm

Looking to put in place then:

1. 0.5 bonus point per win
2. Cash injections for sides

Swaying towards:

1. U21 draft
2. 2 x U21 player in squad, 1 to start

by prop_lyd Thu 19 Apr 2012, 3:02 pm

I'd be happy with those bud! Will need a new page soon too!!

by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu 19 Apr 2012, 3:05 pm

Still not overly sure how the U21's limit will help even the game out think long run it will just favour the stronger academies.

How will the U21s draft sway out? Will it be openn and you just pick anyone under 21 or will it be a set list to choice from?

by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu 19 Apr 2012, 3:08 pm

Also takes away the incentive to trade off the younger promising players and could get to the stage where they wont go without getting one in return similar to EQ players on the original game which will help to kill off domestic dealings somewhat.

by Sgt_Pooly Thu 19 Apr 2012, 3:16 pm

It's not EQ U21, could be foreign.

Not set in stone tbh, listening to opinions.

by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu 19 Apr 2012, 3:20 pm

But you would have to use your foreigns on u21 players so long run it still favours the better academies as they can just rely on academy players and go out for the best players in foreigns regardless of age limits

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