Saracens

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Full Name: Saracens Football Club
Union: Rugby Football Union
Founded: 1876
Nickname: Sarries
Location: Watford, England
Ground: Vicarage Road - Capacity: 19,920
Chairman: Nigel Wray
Captain: Ritchie McCaw
Vice-Captains: Kelly Brown and Charlie Hodgson.

Head Coach: Mark McCall
First Team and Backs Coach: Thomas Castagneide
Forwards Coach: Alex Sanderson
Defence and Forwards Coach: Paul Gustard
Backs skills and Attack Coach- Thomas Castaignede
Academy Coach: Mosese Rauluni
Academy Coach: Kevin Sorrell
Assistant Scrum Coach - Carlos Nieto



Competitions: Aviva Premiership, Amlin Cup, Anglo Welsh Cup.


Current Budget £20 million  




The Squad (42/45):

The red are injured.
Not for sale (except in exceptional deals- for genuinely world class players, anyone is available) denoted by *

Forwards:

Front Row:

Mako Vunipola(LH)* (ENG) age 22 INT (LIONS)
Matt Mullan(LH/HK) (ENG) * age 26 INT
Alasdair Dickinson (LH) (SCO) age 29 (ex-INT)
Jared Saunders (LH) 22 years old ENG


Schalk Brits (HK) (RSA) * age 32 (capped)
Rob Buchanan (HK) (ENG) age 22 (TOURING)
Rob Hawkins (HK) (ENG)  age 30


Petrus du Plessis (TH) (ENG) age 29
Shaun Knight (TH) (ENG) age 23
Davit Zirakashvili (TH) (GEO) age 29 INT
Ben Tameifuna (TH/HK) 22 years old, NZ


Kieran Brookes (TH/LH) 22 years old ENG

Lock:
Donnacha Ryan (LK/6) (IRE) INT *  age 29
James Hudson (ENG) age 31
Bakkies Botha (SA) age 33 (ex-INT)
George Skivington (ENG) age 30

Lock/Backrow:

Mamuka Gorgodze (GEO) age 28 INT

Back Row:
Richie McCaw (OS, can play 6 or 8) (NZ) age  32 INT **
Kelly Brown (BS/N8/OS) (SCO) age 30 INT *
Jonathan Poff (OS) (NZ) age 29
Will Fraser (OS/BS) (ENG) age 23
Guy Thompson (BR utility) 26 years old ENG
Blair Cowan (8/Flanker) 27 years old, NZ

Backs:

Scrum Half:
Morgan Parra (FRA) * - can play 10, age 24 INT
Luke Baldwin 22 years old ENG
Danny Care (ENG) age 26 INT

Fly Half:
Charlie Hodgson (ENG) * age 32 (ex-INT)
Beauden Barrett - NZ, INT age 22 from 27th May (also plays FB)

Centre:
Anthony Allen- IC/OC (ENG) * CAPPED age 26
Adam Powell- IC/OC (ENG) age 26 can play SH (reputedly)
Joel Tomkins- OC (ENG) age 25
Conrad Smith (NZ) ** age 31 INT
Tom Casson IC (ENG) age 23

Centre- wing
Vereniki Goneva- OC/WG (FIJ) INT age 29
Duncan Taylor (WG/13)  age 23 ENG

Back Three:
Tom Varndell (WG) (ENG) age 27 (Capped)
Leigh Halfpenny(FB/WG) (WAL) age 24 INT* (LIONS x2)
Tom Williams - ENG, (WG/FB) age 29
Simon Zebo (WG/FB) age 22 IRE (LION) INT
Tom Arscott (FB) age 29 ENG
Marcus Watson (WG/FB) 22 years old ENG (ENG 7s)

Utility Back:

Chris Wyles (FB/WG/CE) (USA)  INT, 29 *

The Academy (13/20):

Harry Allen (HK) 21 years old ENG
Max Crumpton (HK) 19 years old ENG
Biyi Alo (TH) 19 years old ENG
Tom Jubb (LK) 20 years old ENG
Maro Itoje (LK/6) 18 years old ENG
Matt Hankin (FL) 20 years old ENG
Billy Vunipola (8) 20 years old ENG (TOURING)
Ben Spencer (SH) 21 years old ENG  ON LOAN TO WASPS
Jordan Burns (SH) 19 years old ENG
Nic Frisby (SH) 20 years old, AUS
Sam Stanley (FH/12) 21 years old ENG
Harry Leonard (FH/12) 21 years old ENG
Nathan Earle (FB/WG) 18 years old, ENG

Approximate first XV, allowing for per match variation


15- Leigh Halfpenny
14- Simon Zebo
13 - Conrad Smith
12- Anthony Allen
11- Tom Varndell
10- Charlie Hodgson
9- Morgan Parra
8- Billy Vunipola
7- Richie McCaw
6- Kelly Brown
5- Bakkies Botha
4- Donnacha Ryan
3- Ben Tameifuina
2- Schalk Brits
1- Mako Vunipola

16- Matt Mullan, 17- Rob Buchanan, 18- Sekope Kepu, 19- Mamuka Gorgodze, 20- Will Fraser, 21- Danny Care, 22- Beauden Barrett, 23- Tom Williams

I'd see SOB top 2/3 in the world and the ability to play 6 7 8. Billy V is risk, but ok, no worries.

Any suggestions then mate?

They're not sorry....May is massive potential and Savage likely to be Glos captain next year. I'd be interested in Mullan/Varndell

Easter, Billy V, Mullen, Mako, Bakkies?

Non of those could be involved for Easter or Mullen.

Anybody at a similar level for just Easter?

Yea you were a little lol

I think Tait might be a tough one to do, but could be willing to listen to the others possibly.

Could be mate, what you thinking?

Not sure, LH is somewhere I'm happy with at the minute.

Maybe something with parra?

Perhaps Something like?

Parra + Varndell
=
Care + Medard

Nothing I could tempt you with to get parra?

He's available, but for the right offer obviously. England #1/2 depending on your view after all.

Need a top lh/one who is available for majority of the year

I dont want Mercer, lets do a deal for him...p/x

Yea he wasn't great, whole backline was awful bar Kearney

Can't quite see anything and trying to keep some of the talent at Irish for the future.

I'd look at back-up scrum half and inside centre fella.

Only non starters tbh. Although Freaun/Hopper perhaps. But I'd need a decent figure for both

Messam would be the one I'm most likely to sell. Needed some decent backup. Covers 10 as well which is main reason I went for him, actually was gonna go for Laidlaw

I'd do Bekker in a replacement plus cash deal?

I'm not sure if you're being serious or not... 

Mullen, Ben T, Tomkins?

Something tasty, lad looks incredible. Best 12 I've seen at that level for years

Tomkins?

Lealifiano? not sure mate. Will need some improvement in the front five. Who isn't available is probably the best question!

Could do Mullan. Would you include a back three player for Armitage perhaps?

You mean his third start

That's fair mate. Although I'm happy to keep him, was quite him on him about a year ago. But we can see

Anyone else possibly take your fancy?

Would have to be a big deal to let Eastmond go. Billy V interests me

what for Drew Mitchell?

Mitchell + Easter

for

Banahan + Burger?

Sale - Fraser & Ryan?

Yea 2nd row is taking a hit.

Seymour + Gaskell + JJ

Allen + Fraser

Helps you out a bit

Anything for Parra, Billy V, Mullan or Mako?

Mullan + Zebo
=
Mitchell/Malherbe + Sharples

?

Would you be interested in a Nev deal?

Not going to lie, would struggle to match an EQ player of that standing in return.

Could we perhaps do something for Mullan though? Maybe Nevanaar and someone for your halfbacks and Mullan?

Hi CJ, 36 and Croft are the only players I would say I don't want to lose at the moment, everyone else is available for the right offer..

Will Fraser and Zebo for Pape and an academy player?

Open to negotiation

Similar offer as elsewhere: Fraser and Zebo for Pape, Sscaysbrook and Slade

What can I do for Mullan and or Mathews then mate?

What would you want in addition to Pape? The offer above..?

Zebo and Fraser for Pape, Scaysbrook and Slade ?

Fluxy wrote:What can I do for Mullan and or Mathews then mate?  

What can we do here then mate?

Nev can go.

Nev for Mullan?

Nev for the pair?

Fluxy wrote:Nev for the pair?

Also what for Fraser?

Right what for one or two (even maybe all three?!) of; Mullan Mathews and Fraser? Still interested in Nev?

Could possibly do Borthwick in return for Mathews, maybe even Kruis. Think I would need Fraser for Brown.

So possibly something like;

Borth + Brown + Nev
=
Mathews + Mullan + Fraser

If I involve Kruis how about you involve Fraser?

Hey CJ is there anything doing for Ben T?

Fluxy wrote:Could possibly do Borthwick in return for Mathews, maybe even Kruis. Think I would need Fraser for Brown.

So possibly something like;

Borth + Brown + Nev
=
Mathews + Mullan + Fraser

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If I involve Kruis how about you involve Fraser? 

 Is this dead now mate?

Poo pooed my plans

Faletau + Swinson for Billy V and Charlie Matthews?

Or

Faletau and Moon for Billy and Mullan?