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Post by GSC on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 1:18 pm

Starts at 16.45

As a refresher (this is from memory), 8 groups of 4 teams, each team in a group is selected from a pot. No team can be drawn against one from the same country, and only 2 teams from 1 country can be drawn in groups A-D and E-H for scheduling reasons

The Pots:
Pot One: Chelsea, Barcelona, Manchester United, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Arsenal, Porto, AC Milan.
Pot Two: Valencia, Benfica, Shakhtar Donetsk, Zenit St Petersburg, Schalke, Manchester City, Braga, Dynamo Kiev.
Pot Three: Olympiakos, Ajax, Anderlecht, Juventus, Spartak Moscow, Paris St Germain, Lille, Galatasaray.
Pot Four: Celtic, Borussia Dortmund, BATE Borisov, Dinamo Zagreb, CFR Cluj, Malaga, Montpellier, FC Nordsjaelland.

Man City being the only PL team to miss out on Pot 1

Best case scenario for the 3 teams in pot 1 probably looks like : PL team, Braga/Kiev, Anderlecht/Olympiakos, Anyone but Dortmund/Malaga/Montpellier
Worst case scenario being::: PL team, Valencia, Juve/PSG, Dortmund

Whereas for Man City, best would prob be Porto while worst one of the Spanish big 2.
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Post by Crimey on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 1:41 pm

Could potentially have a group of:

Barcelona/Real Madrid
Manchester City
Juventus/PSG
Dortmund

That's crazy.

On the other hand, you could have a group:

Porto
Dynamo Kiev
Olympiakos
Celtic

Which would also be crazy.

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Post by Guest on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 1:49 pm

I [posted in the Man utd thread that I have a gut feeling United will get Juve, Dortmund and then one of the Portuguese teams from pot 2

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Post by James_182 on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 2:02 pm

I’d like to see Real, Man City, PSG and Celtic.

Two of the big spenders in world football up against a true giant they are trying to replicate, plus a good old 'Battle of Britain' chucked in for good measure.

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Post by GSC on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 2:20 pm

The Champions of the best 4 leagues in the world for me
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Post by Beer on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 3:07 pm

GSC wrote:The Champions of the best 4 leagues in the world for me

Were you referring to Real, City, PSG and Celtic?

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Post by GSC on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 3:12 pm

Amusing, but PSG aren't champions
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Post by Beer on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 3:17 pm

GSC wrote:Amusing, but PSG aren't champions

That's why i was checking!!

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Post by Crimey on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 3:23 pm

Real Madrid
Manchester City
Juventus
Dortmund

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Post by JamesLincs on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 3:35 pm

real madrid are well overdue an english side. i honestly cant remember the last time they faced english opposition in the group stages.

im following celtic as spurs arent there. i think united and arsenal are gunna struggle no matter who they face.

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Post by super_realist on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 3:42 pm

Celtic are going to get embarassed, however it will be the last ever CL appearance of a Scottish club due to the league coefficient from net year, meaning qualification next year will be a virtual impossibility.

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Post by JamesLincs on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 3:55 pm

you dont know that. if they get a half decent draw in the group then they can qualify or even get 3rd. the celtic fans will make sure of 3 tough games at celtic park

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Post by Crimey on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:10 pm

They could do this draw so much quickly.

Just go from Group A to Group F and draw one each time.

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Post by Crimey on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:19 pm

Real Madrid and City drawn together! Very Happy

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Post by JamesLincs on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:24 pm

f*ck! cant wait for that one

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Post by Kenny on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:26 pm

Galatasaray are into Group H with Manchester United.
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Post by Dave. on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:26 pm

Memories of 1994........

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Post by Kenny on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:28 pm

Arsenal get Olympiakos again
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Post by Crimey on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:28 pm

No PSG with Madrid and City, let's hope for Juventus instead.

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Post by Crimey on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:29 pm

Boooo.

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Post by Kenny on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:29 pm

Cruel Crimey cruel
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Post by Crimey on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:30 pm

As a neutral, a group consisting of Real Madrid, Manchester City and PSG looked awesome.

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Post by Kenny on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:30 pm

Man City and Real Madrid get Ajax
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Post by Kenny on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:31 pm

Italian champions Juventus will be up against Chelsea and Shakhtar.
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Post by Kenny on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:34 pm

So who gets Celtic ?
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Post by Dave. on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:35 pm

Kenny wrote:Man City and Real Madrid get Ajax

They'll look to clean up there.

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Post by Kenny on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:35 pm

Celtic are first out of the hat and go into Group G with Barcelona Benfica and Spartak Moscow !!!
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Post by Crimey on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:37 pm

Giroud to go back to Monteplier.

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Post by Kenny on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:38 pm

Not bad draw for Arsenal though
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Post by GSC on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:39 pm

Man City get Dortmund
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Post by GSC on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:40 pm

City get an absolute ****ter 2 years running
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Post by Crimey on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:40 pm

Real Madrid
Manchester City
Ajax
Dortmund

That is a very tough group, City will do well to get out of it, I think Dortmund will definitely challenge them.

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Post by Crimey on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:40 pm

Manchester United get another easy group, let's see if they can mess it up again. Laugh

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Post by Kenny on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:43 pm

Man Utd given bye into next round
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Post by GSC on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:45 pm

I dunno, Cluj could've given basel a game Whistle
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Post by Kenny on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 5:47 pm

Man Utd cant fluff it up 2 years on the trot
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Re: Champions League Group Stage Draw

Post by TopHat24/7 on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 6:09 pm

Crimey wrote:Real Madrid
Manchester City
Ajax
Dortmund

That is a very tough group, City will do well to get out of it, I think Dortmund will definitely challenge them.

haha gutted Citeh! Shows what happens when you buy instant success rather than building up. Winning the EPL means nothing if it's the first thing your clubs done in 50 years!! Laugh

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Post by Guest on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 6:10 pm

IMO Man City have a very tough group but they will squeeze out of it just!


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Post by TopHat24/7 on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 6:11 pm

Kenny wrote:Man Utd cant fluff it up 2 years on the trot

Have a nagging memory last time United fluffed up an easy group they went on to win the tourny the following year......funnily enough I can't picture it happening this time round!

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Post by GSC on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 6:11 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
Crimey wrote:Real Madrid
Manchester City
Ajax
Dortmund

That is a very tough group, City will do well to get out of it, I think Dortmund will definitely challenge them.

haha gutted Citeh! Shows what happens when you buy instant success rather than building up. Winning the EPL means nothing if it's the first thing your clubs done in 50 years!! Laugh

....what?

Did anything in this post make sense to anyone? Buying success puts you in a hard group and winning the EPL for the first time means nothing?
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Post by TopHat24/7 on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 6:15 pm

If they'd built up over a number of years, say finishing 2nd/3rd a few times, getting a few European runs under their belt, they'd have a higher ranking/co-efficient which would mean they'd have better chance at a seeding, thus avoiding the big boys, in the Champs League.

As they went from nothing to everything in 2 seasons, winning the EPL, their one achievement in 50 years, hasn't helped them in Europe and they've been stuffed with the group of death.

United on the other hand came second but have a doddle of a group.

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Post by GSC on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 6:20 pm

And United could've ended up with Juve, Malaga, PSG etc. Whereas City get Porto and some croat team or something.

Yes a high ranking helps somewhat but ultimately its luck of the draw, literally.

You just sound bitter City have surpassed United.
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Post by TopHat24/7 on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 6:26 pm

GSC wrote:And United could've ended up with Juve, Malaga, PSG etc. Whereas City get Porto and some croat team or something.

Yes a high ranking helps somewhat but ultimately its luck of the draw, literally.

You just sound bitter City have surpassed United.

At the risk of sounding like a Liverpool fan in the early 90s, come back when you've got 20 League titles, then we'll talk about who's surpassed who.

3 Champions Leagues and a Treble wouldn't go a miss either....

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Post by GSC on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 6:28 pm

As a neutral, City are the better team. Cling to history if you like though.
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Post by TopHat24/7 on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 6:59 pm

GSC wrote:As a neutral, City are the better team. Cling to history if you like though.

Yes, they are indeed the better team, winning the EPL last season was a pretty good indicator, well done for catching on.

Not a better or greater club though.

I've already said my prediction this season is 1.City 2.Chelsea 3. United. I'm a United fan but not incapable of objectivity. Am also a fan of football, which is why I dislike Citeh and Chelski so much.

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Post by Duty281 on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 7:26 pm

Predictions:

Group A: Porto and Dynamo Kiev
Group B: Arsenal and Schalke
Group C: AC Milan and Zenit St Petersburg
Group D: Real Madrid and Ajax
Group E: Chelsea and Juventus
Group F: Bayern Munich and Valencia
Group G: Barcelona and Spartak Moscow
Group H: Manchester United and Galatasaray

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Post by James_182 on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 8:01 pm

Predictions:

Group A: PSG and Porto
Group B: Arsenal and Schalke
Group C: AC Milan and Zenit St Petersburg
Group D: Real Madrid and Dortmund
Group E: Chelsea and Juventus
Group F: Bayern Munich and Valencia
Group G: Barcelona and Benfica
Group H: Manchester United and Galatasaray

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Post by Crimey on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 8:05 pm

Predictions:

Group A:
Group B: 1st: Schalke, 2nd: Arsenal
Group C: 1st: Zenit, 2nd: AC Milan
Group D: 1st: Real Madrid, 2nd: Manchester City
Group E: 1st: Juventus, 2nd: Chelsea
Group F: 1st: Bayern Munich, 2nd: Lille
Group G: 1st: Barcelona, 2nd: Spartak Moscow
Group H: 1st: Braga, 2nd: Manchester United

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Post by Mad for Chelsea on Thu 30 Aug 2012, 11:27 pm

as a Chelsea fan, not too unhappy with the draw, think Juventus will be our biggest challengers, and Donesk no pushover but we should have enough to get through comfortably and I expect us to top the group.

Man u get an absolute cakewalk for the second year in a row, then again we all remember what happened last year. Still expect less complacency this year and them to top the group comfortably.

Arsenal have a pretty decent draw, should go through, and should really top the group.

City have another tough draw, in fact tougher than last year. Dortmund and Real Ajax no pushovers either. Some cracking matches to look forward to but don't think City will get out of that one unfortunately.

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Post by super_realist on Fri 31 Aug 2012, 9:51 pm

JamesLincs wrote:you dont know that. if they get a half decent draw in the group then they can qualify or even get 3rd. the celtic fans will make sure of 3 tough games at celtic park


Laugh

They'll be like Ireland at the euro's.

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