LV= Anglo Welsh Cup Round 2

LV= Anglo Welsh Cup Round 2 - Predictions open, in by 00:01 on Wednesday 21/11/12

---

Harlequins vs Bath Rugby

At the Twickenham Stoop, London, Fog, 9 degrees C, 6mph wind


Harlequins

Manager – Driver

01.Mark Lambert	09.Richard Wrigglesworth
02.Joe Grey	10.Tom Heathcote (K)
03.Chris Budgen
04.Carlo Del Fava	11.James Short
05.Alistair Hargreaves	12.Hudson Tonga'uhia
06.Tom Croft (c)	13.Sam Stuart
07.Hienrich Brussouw	14.Andy Short
08.Jon Fisher	15.Jared Payne

16.John Smit 17.Will Collier 18.Darryl Marfo 19.Mauritz Botha 20.Alex Grey 21.Luke Burguss 22.Harry Sloan 23.Ollie Lindsey Hague

Bath Rugby
Manager – Bathite

01. C.Healy	09. C.Cook
02. L.Mears	10. O.Barkley
03. K.P-Newport
04. J.Muller	11. K.Eastmond
05. R.Caldwell	12. F.Steyn
06. C.Fearns	13. E.Daly
07. S.O'Brien	14. T.Biggs
08. S.Kalamafoni	15. T.Bowe

16. N.Catt 17. R.Batty 18. J.Golding 19. W.Spencer 20. W.Skuse 21. M.McMillan 22. O.Devoto 23. O.Woodburn

---

Sale Sharks vs Saracens

At The Salford City Stadium, Salford, Cloud with light drizzle, 7 degrees C, calm


Sale Sharks

Manager – LondonIrishOllie

01.Lee Imolek	09.Scott Mathie
02.Mark Jones	10.Johan Goosen
03.Henry Thomas
04.Dean Schofield	11.Will Addison
05.James Gaskell	12.Luther Burrell
06.Schalk Burger	13.Sam Tuitupou
07.Dave Seymour	14.Charlie Amesbury
08.Andy Powell	15.Nick McLeod

Subs 16.Nathan Charles 17.Ross Harrison 18.Andrew Sheridan 19.Frazer McKenzie 20.Hendrie Fourie 21.Cillian Willis 22.Tommy Bell 23.Billy Emerson

Saracens
Manager – ChequeredJersey

01. Matt Mullan	09. Ben Spencer
02. Rob Buchanan	10. Charlie Hodgson (c.)
03. Carlos Nieto
04. Bakkies Botha	11. Sam Smith
05. George Kruis	12. Anthony Allen
06. Chris York	13. Joel Tomkins
07. Will Fraser	14. Tom Williams
08. Billy Vunipola	15. Chris Wyles

16. Jared Saunders 17. Rob Hawkins 18. Petrus du Plessis 19. James Hudson 20. Richie McCaw 21. Jordan Burns 22. Sam Stanley 23.

---

Exeter Chiefs vs Ospreys

At Sandy Park Stadium, Exeter, Partially cloudy, 10 degrees C, 10mph wind

Exeter Chiefs
Manager – Luke

01. Tendai Mtawarira	09. Sam Harrison
02. Neil Clark	10. Ian Humphreys (k)
03. Hoani Tui
04. Louis Deacon	11. Isa Nacewa
05. Tommy Hayes (c)	12. Sireli Naqelevuki
06. Steve Mafi	13. Sam Hill
07. James Scaysbrook	14. Paul Sackey
08. David Ewers	15. Jack Nowell

16. Brett Sturgess 17. Simon Alcott 18. John Andress 19. James Hanks 20. Richard Baxter 21. Kevin Barrett 22. Ignacio Mieres 23. Matt Jess

Ospreys

01. Duncan Jones	09. Tom Habberfield
02. Scott Baldwin	10. Matthew Morgan (k)
03. Adam Jones
04. Ian Gough	11.Eli Walker
05. Alun Wynn-Jones (c.)	12. Jonathan Spratt
06. Sam Lewis	13.Andrew Bishops
07. James King	14. Hanno Dirksen
08. George Stowers	15. Richard Fussell

16. Joe Rees 17. Dmitri Arhip, 18. James Goode, 19.Matthew Dwyer, 20. Kahn Fotuali'i , 21. Sam Davies 22. Tom Isaacs 23. Morgen Allen

---

Gloucester Rugby vs London Welsh

At Kingsholm Stadium, Gloucester, Partially cloudy, 8 degrees C, 7mph wind

Gloucester

Manager- Prop_lyd

01. Dan Murphy	09. Dan Robson
02. Rory Best	10. Billy Burns (k)
03. Adam Jones
04. Tom Savage	11. Ian Clark
05. Elliot Stooke	12. Mike Tindall
06. Peter Buxton	13. Henry Trinder
07. Akapusi Qera	14. Johnny May
08. JVN (c)	15. Iain Balshaw

16. Korree Britton 17. Nick Wood 18. Shaun Knight 19. Will James 20. Luke Narraway 21. Dimitri Yachvilli 22. JSD 23. Shane Monahan

London Welsh

Manager – Fluxy

01. Tom French	09. Will Chudley
02. Chris Whitehead	10. Gavin Henson
03. Tom Mercey
04. Steve Borthwick (C)	11. Adam Thompstone
05. Tim Swinson	12. Tom Casson
06. Ashley Johson	13. Dominic Waldlouck
07. Ben Nutley	14. Seb Stegman
08. Chris Hala'ufia	15. Ben Ransom

16. Rhys Gill 17. Phil Swainston 18. Tom Lindsay 19. Dean Mumm 20. Nick Easter 21. Paul Hodgson 22. George Lowe 23. Topsy Ojo

---

Scarlets vs Cardiff Blues

At the Park y Scarlets, Llanelli, Cloudy, 7 degrees C, 10 mph wind


Scarlets

01. Rhodri Jones	09. Gareth Davies
02. Ken Owens	10. Aled Thomas (k)
03. Samson Lee
04. Sione Timani	11. Andy Fenby
05. Richard Kelly	12.Jonathan Davies (c.)
06. Aaron Shingler	13. Adam Warren
07. Josh Turnball	14. Lee Williams
08. Kieran Murphy	15. Morgan Stoddard

16. Jacobie Adriaanse 17. Kirby Myhill, 18. Phil John, 19. Jake Ball, 20. Richie Pugh, 21. Aled Davies, 22. Jordan Williams, 23. Kristian Phillips

Cardiff Blues

01. Campese Ma'afu	09. Lloyd Williams
02. Rhys Williams	10. Ceri Sweeney (k)
03. Taufa'ao Filise
04. Cory Hill	11. Tom James
05. Lou Reed	12. Daffyd Hewitt
06. Robin Copeland	13. Gavin Evans
07. Josh Navini	14. Harry Robinson
08. Andries Pretorius	15.Dan Fish

16. Andy Kyriacou 17. Sam Hobbs, 18. Thomas Davies, 19.James Down, 20. Luke Hamilton, 21. Rob Lewis, 22. Jason Tovey, 23. Chris Czekaj

---

Leicester Tigers vs London Irish

At Welford Road, Leicester, Cloudy, 6 degrees C, 5 mph wind


Leicester Tigers
Manager – Sgt_Pooly

01. Alex Corbisiero	09. Karl Dickson
02. Jamie George	10. Danny Cipriani
03. Kyle Sinckler
04. Ed Slater	11. Miles Benjamin
05. Tom Price	12. James O’Connor
06. Sam Jones	13. Matt Smith
07. Luke Wallace	14. Christian Wade
08. Jacque Cronje	15. Geordan Murphy

16. Bismark du Plessis 17. Luke Cowan-Dickie 18. Ryan Bower 19. Richard De Carpentier 20. Jacob Rowan 21. Liam Holder 22. Rob Kearney 23. Charlie Walker

Tactics:

Normal Tigers tactics. High intensity and keeping the ball alaive if the weather dictates. Look to get the bench on and give the youngsters a run out.


London Irish

Manager – Pullthestrings

01. Max Lahiff	09. Joe Simpson
02. James Buckland	10. Brock James
03. Leo Halavatau
04. Bryn Evans	11. Marlande Yarde
05. Simon Shaw	12. Daniel Bowden
06. Tom Guest	13. Regan King
07. David Pocock (c)	14. Alesana Tuilagi
08. David Sisi	15. Tom Homer (k)

16. Rob Herring, 17. Tom Smallbone, 18. Paulică Ion, 19. Kieren Low, 20. Declan Danaher, 21. Jack Moates, 22. Quade Cooper, 23. Delon Armitage

---

London Wasps vs Worcester Warriors

At Adams Park Stadium, Wycombe, Clear, 5 degrees C, 3 mph wind

London Wasps

Manager – CF

01. Tim Payne	09. Micky Young
02. George Chuter	10. Shane Geraghty
03. Matt Stevens
04. George Skivington	11. Mark Cueto
05. Marco Wentzel	12. Billy Twelvetrees
06. Thierry Dusautoir	13. Jacque Fourie
07. Julien Salvi	14. Tom Varndell
08.Pedrie Wannenberg	15. Richard Haughton

16. Boris Stankovich 17. Chris Brooker 18. Ben Broster 19. James Cannon 20. Charlie Davies 21. Jimmy Gopperth 22. Alex Cheeseman 23. Chris Bell

Worcester Warriors

Manager – InTheFastLane

01. Louis Padian	09. Will Genia
02. Ed Shervington	10. George Ford
03. Tevita Taumeopeau
04. Gerhard Mostert	11. Tom Arscott
05. George Robson	12. Jordan Turner Hall
06. Matt Kvesic	13. Alex Grove
07. Andy Saull	14. Mike Penn
08. Ben Morgan	15. Eerie Claasens

16. Will Radburn 17. George Porter 18. James Currie 19. Graham Kitchener 20. James Haskell 21. Jonny Arr 22. Andy Goode 23. Matt Hooper

---

Newport-Gwent Dragons vs Northampton Saints

At the Rodney Parade, Newport, Sunny, 7 degrees C, 7 mph wind

Newport-Gwent Dragons

01. Owen Evans	09. Jonathan Evans
02. Steve Jones	10. Lewis Robling (k)
03. Nathan Buck
04. Ian Nimmo	11. Tonderai Chavhanga
05. Robert Sidoli	12. Andy Tuilagi
06. Dan Lydiate (c.)	13. Adam Hughes
07. Jevon Groves	14. Will Harries
08. Tom Brown	15.Tom Prydie

16. Sam Parry 17. Nathan Williams, 18. Dan Way, 19.Adam M Jones, 20. Nic Cudd, 21. Joe Bedford, 22. Steffan Jones, 23. Daniel Evans

Northampton Saints
Manager – SirJohnnyEnglish

01. Steven Kitshoff	09. Martin Roberts
02. Mikey Haywood	10. Ryan Lamb
03. Paul Doran-Jones
04. Mark Sorenson	11. Jamie Elliot
05. Christian Day	12. James Downey
06. Phil Dowson	13. John Clarke
07. Calum Clarke	14. Vasily Artemiev
08. Roger Wilson	15. Greig Tonks

16. Alex Waller 17. Brett Sharman 18. Danny Herriot 19. James Craig 20. Teimana Harrison 21. Ryan Glynn 22. Stephen Myler 23. Scott Armstrong

Bigger and Beck are starting for Wales this week

I just put up the squads from last week to start with, I will edit when I can

Exeter Chiefs
Manager – Luke

01. Tendai Mtawarira	09. Sam Harrison
02. Neil Clark	10. Ian Humphreys (k)
03. Hoani Tui
04. Louis Deacon	11. Isa Nacewa
05. Tommy Hayes (c)	12. Sireli Naqelevuki
06. Steve Mafi	13. Sam Hill
07. James Scaysbrook	14. Paul Sackey
08. David Ewers	15. Jack Nowell

16. Brett Sturgess 17. Simon Alcott 18. John Andress 19. James Hanks 20. Richard Baxter 21. Kevin Barrett 22. Ignacio Mieres 23. Matt Jess

Leicester Tigers
Manager – Sgt_Pooly

01. Alex Corbisiero	09. Karl Dickson
02. Jamie George	10. Danny Cipriani
03. Kyle Sinckler
04. Ed Slater	11. Miles Benjamin
05. Tom Price	12. James O’Connor
06. Maurie Fa'asalavu	13. Matt Smith
07. Luke Wallace	14. Christian Wade
08. Jacque Cronje	15. Geordan Murphy

16. Bismark du Plessis 17. Luke Cowan-Dickie 18. Ryan Bower 19. Sam Jones 20. Jacob Rowan 21. Liam Holder 22. Rob Kearney 23. Charlie Walker

Tactics:

Normal Tigers tactics. High intensity and keeping the ball alaive if the weather dictates. Look to get the bench on and give the youngsters a run out.

TBC - needs changes

Bath Rugby
Manager – Bathite

01. C.Healy	09. C.Cook
02. L.Mears	10. O.Barkley
03. K.P-Newport
04. J.Muller	11. K.Eastmond
05. R.Caldwell	12. F.Steyn
06. C.Fearns	13. E.Daly
07. S.O'Brien	14. T.Biggs
08. S.Kalamafoni	15. T.Bowe

16. N.Catt 17. R.Batty 18. J.Golding 19. W.Spencer 20. W.Skuse 21. M.McMillan 22. O.Devoto 23. O.Woodburn

After last weeks success, Flux has made only one change to his matchday 23, by giving Tom French his first start of the season in the place of Rhys Gill.

London Welsh

Manager – Fluxy

01. Tom French	09. Will Chudley
02. Chris Whitehead	10. Gavin Henson
03. Tom Mercey
04. Steve Borthwick (C)	11. Adam Thompstone
05. Tim Swinson	12. Tom Casson
06. Ashley Johson	13. Dominic Waldlouck
07. Ben Nutley	14. Seb Stegman
08. Chris Hala'ufia	15. Ben Ransom

16. Rhys Gill 17. Phil Swainston 18. Tom Lindsay 19. Dean Mumm 20. Nick Easter 21. Paul Hodgson 22. George Lowe 23. Topsy Ojo

Saracens
Manager – ChequeredJersey

01. Matt Mullan	09. Ben Spencer
02. Rob Buchanan	10. Charlie Hodgson (c.)
03. Carlos Nieto
04. Bakkies Botha	11. Sam Smith
05. George Kruis	12. Anthony Allen
06. Chris York	13. Joel Tomkins
07. Will Fraser	14. Tom Williams
08. Billy Vunipola	15. Chris Wyles

16. Jared Saunders 17. Rob Hawkins 18. Petrus du Plessis 19. James Hudson 20. Richie McCaw 21. Jordan Burns 22. Sam Stanley 23. Drew Mitchell

Quins make 5 changes from the side which won away at Northampton last week. Joe Grey , Carlo Del Fava , Jon Fisher , Richard Wrigglesworth and Andy Short come into the starting line up ahead of John Smit , Mo Botha , Alex Grey , Luke Burguss and Ollie Lindsey-Hague.

On Del Fava making his debut Driver had this to say ' Carlo is a seasoned international who knows what it takes to play at the highest level , he's physicality is second to none and he'll certainly look to make a impact'

Harlequins

Manager – Driver

01.Mark Lambert	09.Richard Wrigglesworth
02.Joe Grey	10.Tom Heathcote (K)
03.Chris Budgen
04.Carlo Del Fava	11.James Short
05.Alistair Hargreaves	12.Hudson Tonga'uhia
06.Tom Croft (c)	13.Sam Stuart
07.Hienrich Brussouw	14.Andy Short
08.Jon Fisher	15.Jared Payne

16.John Smit 17.Will Collier 18.Darryl Marfo 19.Mauritz Botha 20.Alex Grey 21.Luke Burguss 22.Harry Sloan 23.Ollie Lindsey Hague

Worcester Warriors

Manager – InTheFastLane

01. Louis Padian	09. Will Genia
02. Ed Shervington	10. George Ford
03. Tevita Taumeopeau
04. Gerhard Mostert	11. Tom Arscott
05. George Robson	12. Jordan Turner Hall
06. Matt vesic	13. Alex Grove
07. Andy Saull	14. Mike Penn
08. Ben Morgan	15. Eerie Claasens

16. Will Radburn 17. George Porter 18. James Currie 19. Gerhard Mostert 20. James Haskell 21. Jonny Arr 22. Andy Goode 23. Matt Hooper

01. Dan Murphy	09. Dan Robson
02. Rory Best	10. Billy Burns (k)
03. Adam Jones
04. Tom Savage	11. Ian Clark
05. Elliot Stooke	12. Mike Tindall
06. Peter Buxton	13. Henry Trinder
07. Akapusi Qera	14. Johnny May
08. JVN (c)	15. Iain Balshaw

16. Korree Britton 17. Nick Wood 18. Shaun Knight 19. Will James 20. Luke Narraway 21. Dimitri Yachvilli 22. JSD 23. Shane Monahan

Northampton Saints
Manager – SirJohnnyEnglish

01. Steven Kitshoff	09. Martin Roberts
02. Mikey Haywood	10. Ryan Lamb
03. Paul Doran-Jones
04. Mark Sorenson	11. Jamie Elliot
05. Christian Day	12. James Downey
06. Phil Dowson	13. John Clarke
07. Calum Clarke	14. Vasily Artemiev
08. Roger Wilson	15. Greig Tonks

16. Alex Waller 17. Brett Sharman 18. Danny Herriot 19. James Craig 20. Teimana Harrison 21. Ryan Glynn 22. Stephen Myler 23. Scott Armstrong

WASPS

01. Tim Payne 09. Micky Young
02. George Chuter 10. Shane Geraghty
03. Matt Stevens
04. George Skivington 11. Mark Cueto
05. Marco Wentzel 12. Billy Twelvetrees
06. Thierry Dusautoir 13. Jacque Fourie
07. Julien Salvi 14. Tom Varndell
08.Pedrie Wannenberg 15. Richard Haughton


16. Boris Stankovich 17. Chris Brooker 18. 19. James Cannon 20. Charlie Davies 21. Jimmy Gopperth 22. Alex Cheeseman 23. Chris Bell

You haven't named anyone at 18 fella

Weather forecast-

Twickenham- Fog, 9 degrees C, 6mph wind
Sale - Cloud with light drizzle, 7 degrees C, calm
Exeter- Partially cloudy, 10 degrees C, 10mph wind
Gloucester- Partially cloudy, 8 degrees C, 7mph wind
Llanelli- Cloudy, 7 degrees C, 10 mph wind
Leicester- Cloudy, 6 degrees C, 5 mph wind
Wycombe- Clear, 5 degrees C, 3 mph wind
Newport- Sunny, 7 degrees C, 7 mph wind

London Irish

Manager – Pullthestrings

01. Max Lahiff	09. Joe Simpson
02. James Buckland	10. Brock James
03. Leo Halavatau
04. Bryn Evans	11. Marlande Yarde
05. Simon Shaw	12. Daniel Bowden
06. Liam Messam	13. Regan King
07. David Pocock (c)	14. Alesana Tuilagi
08. Tom Guest	15. Tom Homer (k)

16. Rob Herring, 17. Gethin Jenkins 18. Paulică Ion, 19. Kieren Low, 20. David Sisi, 21. Jack Moates, 22. Quade Cooper, 23. Delon Armitage

Sale Sharks

Manager – LondonIrishOllie

01.Lee Imolek	09.Scott Mathie
02.Mark Jones	10.Johan Goosen
03.Thomas
04.Dean Schofield	11.Will Addison
05.Gaskell	12.Burrell
06.Burger	13.Tuitupou
07.Dave Seymour	14.Charlie Amesbury
08.Andy Powell	15.Nick McLeod

Subs 16.Nathan Charles 17.Davit Kubriashvilli 18.Andrew Sheridan 19.Frazer McKenzie 20.Hendrie Fourie 21.Cillian Willis 22.Tommy Bell 23.Billy Emerson

Predictions open

Harlequins 16 - 18 Bath

Ability wise both teams are about even, but form wise Bath will take it. Line out will go to Bath, with both teams getting the spoils at the scrum. Out wide, Bath have some great backs. But not so sure with Bowe at fullback. Quins have a strong bench, but I think Bath will have enough to sneak it.

---

Sale Sharks 24 - 27 Saracens

Can't wait to see this game in the league and will be a great preview. For me both packs are about even, maybe just edging to Sarries with form. Outwide to great set of halfbacks. Against others in the league Sharks would win this, but I like the pairing of Spencer and Hodgson. I reckon the backlines are reasonably similar, but the late on Sarries experience on the bench will see out a great win.

---

Exeter Chiefs 23 - 22 Ospreys

---

Leicester Tigers 20 - 22 London Irish

Front five edge to Tigers, but in the open spaces Irish back five. Pretty Sure Fasa was playing for Samoa, so mark down here. Halbacks are even, with both sets having a controlling member and someone who can inject pace. Tigers have more talent in the backline but Irish have a solid and tested backline. Two great benches, but I cant help but feel the less changed Irish will sneak this!

---

London Wasps 16 - 23 Worcester Warriors
Great ability in the Wasps side, but some tired legs levels up the contest. Great back row battle, and backline contest. Warrirors win the halfback contest and this will help them get on top in the backline. Genia to control this one for a great Warriors win.

---

Newport Gwent-Dragons 17 - 39 Northampton Saints

Pull,

Messam & Jenkins are playing Int this weekend so are unavailable.

Flux can you redo, not sure if it affects your predo too much, sorry fella.

CJ, if about can you remove Jenkins & Messem for Pulls side and replace Messem with somebody from the bench (Low or Sisi I guess)

Need to keep on top of selections lads.

CJ,

Kubriashvili removed from Sale bench too. Sorry mate.

Sorry lads, complete oversight on my part.

pullthestrings wrote:London Irish

Manager – Pullthestrings

01. Max Lahiff	09. Joe Simpson
02. James Buckland	10. Brock James
03. Leo Halavatau
04. Bryn Evans	11. Marlande Yarde
05. Simon Shaw	12. Daniel Bowden
06. Tom Guest	13. Regan King
07. David Pocock (c)	14. Alesana Tuilagi
08. David Sisi	15. Tom Homer (k)

16. Rob Herring, 17. Tom Smallbone, 18. Paulică Ion, 19. Kieren Low, 20. Declan Danaher, 21. Jack Moates, 22. Quade Cooper, 23. Delon Armitage

Did Fasa play for Samoa too??? Bad times

Sam Jones in place of Fasa CJ, my bad.

Sale 14 - 16 Sarries
Front row goes to the Saracens, with more experience and nous. Sale's props are very promising, but Sarries are proven. I see this reversing in the second half though when Sheridan and Kubs come on against tired legs. Second row goes to Sarries, with Bakkies the stand out, but back row back to Sale. Prefer the sarries halfbacks, but outside backs pretty even I'd say.

Sarries get a good early start and Hodgson pulls the strings. Sale do really well in 2nd half with lots more ball, but run out of time.

Exeter 19 - 16 Ospreys

Glos - Welsh TBC

Scarlets 22 - 15 Blues

Tigers - Irish TBC

Wasps - Worcs TBC

Newport 13 - 27 Saints

Just scores for now, will edit to include feedback soon:

Quins 20- Bath 20
Chiefs 20 - Ospreys 19
Gloucester 23 - Welsh 22
Leicester 28- Irish 26
Scarlets 25 - Blues 20
Wasps 30 - Worcester 30
Dragons 17 - Saints 33

Quins 18-20 Bath
Front row to Bath. Big fan of both 2nd rows here. Bath bring more to the backrow. Partnership-wise I prefer the Quins hb's. More from Bath centres and in the back 3 takes this.

Sale 15-18 Sarries
Prefer Sarries front row and they take the 2nd row too. Good form with Sarries back row but Burger will bring some of his class here. Prefer Sarries 9-10 and think they may have more in the centres. Back 3 I can't split. Can see Sheridan helping Sharks coming on but McCaw and Mitchell will see Sarries over.

Exeter 22-21 Ospreys
Note: O's 9 played on Friday night.

Tigers 24-22 Irish
Front row evens. 2nd row Irish have a bit more and the same in backrow but Tigers have some form here. 9-10 evens with some form but some injuries too. Can't split centres. 2 good back 3's but think Murphy's experience will pay off as will a bit more on the bench for Tigers.

Wasps 23-20 Worcs
Experience helps Wasps in front row. 2nd row also to Wasps. 2 impressive back rows on show here but think Warriors edge it just with Morgan. 9-10 to Warriors with a little more quality. Good centre's from Wasps and a strong back 3 helps them finish more opportunities.

Newport 9-30 Saints
Saints way too strong.

Glos 21 - 12 Welsh
Front row goes to Gloucester by quite a bit, with Wood and Knight good options from the bench. Second rows must be about evens, maybe more grunt in the home side. Back row again goes to Glosc, with the form of Qera making the difference. Backs all stronger in the Glos side, so they have enough for a comfortable win.

Cheers for sorting CJ

Tigers 17 - 21 Irish
Promising front row from the Tigers, with good, young options coming off the bench. Can't see much between the second rows, like Slater as a player and Shaw is still in evergreen form, but won't last the full game. Back row edges to Irish, with Pocock the standout. Halfbacks are interesting pairs, with Dickson and Brock both pretty reliable and Simpson and Cipriani the flair Mavericks that might be unpredictable. Like the Irish pair of centres, two good footballers. Delon and Quade great bench options for Irish. Irish edge this one with a bit more experience and form throughout the team. Homer kicks the goals from the penalties Pocock wins.

Wasps 17 - 15 Worcs
On this occasion, Wasps will have some advantage up front, as the Worcs unit are relatively unknown. Big fan of both second rows here, but Mostert is down twice for Worcs. Nice balance to the Wasps back row and can see Salvi and Dus having huge joy against the opposite flankers, especially on the deck. Half backs to Worcs, as Geraghty hasn't had much form since his return. Not much in the centres, with a good 12 battle. Not convinced by Huaghton as a 15, but think as a home team, Wasps have enough in front and back rows.

Quins 22 Bath 23
Bath take front row and 2nd rows are close. Bath take backrow. Halfbacks are even, with centres going to Bath. Back 3 is just Bath's but not convinced by Bowe at fullback, while he can play there its not somewhere i think suits his strengths and i question whether his kicking game is good enough. But Bath have too much.

Exeter 25 Ospreys 20
Exeter too strong, with iHumph in good form can only see a home win.

Gloucester 24 Welsh 13
Gloucester stronger in the pack especially front row and backrow. This means good ball for backs and not too much pressure on the inexperienced Burns. In future i think it would be useful for him to have a play who can take some responsibility off of him at 12 or 15, but due to the win up front i don't see it as too much of an issue and i can see Glaw's backs finishing off a few moves.

Tigers 29 Irish 25
Close game here. Irish have issue of form in some areas e.g. 7, 12 and 15. So there levels not rated as high as normal. I think the packs are pretyt even with the backs just going to Tigers. Not alot in it at all though, but home advantage and their bench sees Tigers home.

Wasps 27 Worcester 22
Wasps win front 5 battle for me and this settles the tone. Although Wuss are playing two 7's i think Salvi will cope with them. Geraghty will enjoy the front foot ball and will be able to work some magic. I can see Ford struggling going backwards as its something he has very seldom dealt with. Sio Wasps get the win.

Dragons 15 Saints 37
Saints have too much throughout and will run aaway with this one.

Quins 16-20 Bath

Don’t see an awful lot between the sides at the set piece but Bath are stronger around the park. Back row edges to Bath as well. Don’t see either side dominating the breakdown but Bath with a lot more ball carrying wise. Decent halfback battle. Little bit more quality for Bath in midfield and on the wings. Bath have that little bit more through the sides and take a good win.


Sale Sharks 20-25 Saracens

Don’t see much difference at the lineout but Sarries can really get at the scrum in this one. Burger the outstanding back rower but carrying no form at the moment. Nothing between the two units. Don’t see an awful lot between the back lines in this one. Sheridan will strengthen the Sale scrum but McCaw will up the tempo for Sarries. Sarries scrum dominance gives them the platform for the win.

Note: Mitchell was on the Aussies bench at the weekend wasn’t he?


Exeter Chiefs 16-13 Ospreys

Not an awful lot between the sides but home advantage and a little more form at 10 see Chiefs through.


Gloucester Rugby 29-26 London Welsh

More at scrum time for Gloucester but Borthwick will take control of the lineout for Welsh. Just a little more in the backrow for Glaws with Qera in great form. Halfbacks edge to Welsh at the moment with Henson holding some decent form. Not much between the midfields but Glaws with the stronger back 3. Both benches are strong but Welsh are marked down with no apparent flyhalf cover. Home advantage the key decider in this one.


Leicester Tigers 14-17 London Irish

Not an awful lot between the front 5s at the set piece but the Irish engine room will give a bit more around the park. Bit more for Irish in the back row. Halfbacks to Irish with a bit more. Good form for Tigers though currently. Midfield just edges to Tigers with a better balance. More in the back three for Irish though. Irish have just enough more in the backrow and halfbacks to take a win at Welford Road.


London Wasps 23-17 Worcester Warriors

Pretty much a 1st choice pack for Wasps will give them the edge in this one. Halfbacks to Worcester and they will give better game control. Wasps stronger in the backline man for man at the moment. Worcester with the stronger bench to bring in but feel they will have to much to do in the last 15 minutes.

Harlequins 21-22 Bath
Sale 19-19 Sarries
Exeter 23-17 Ospreys
Gloucester 26-20 Welsh
Wasps 25-22 Worcester
Dragons 15-25 Northampton

Quins 21 - 22 Bath

Sale Sharks 21 - 23 Saracens

Gloucester Rugby 27 - 23 London Welsh

Leicester Tigers 20 - 22 London Irish

London Wasps 24 - 18 Worcester Warriors

Can i preado tomorrow night , swampped for time atm.

Exeter Chiefs 21 Ospreys 15
Sale 23 Saracens 23

Tricky encounter between two very good sides , Saracens take the front 5 with Botha key in second row. Back row swings sharks way with Burger and Powell stand outs. Backs just shade to Sale with gooson class above , outside backs can't split.

Gloucester 28 London Welsh 21

Glaws smash Welsh at the scrum and this knocks right through the team, Swinson and AJ provide muscle in pack going backwards. Half backs 1 a piece but Hensons kicking game doesn't have much reward with Glaws getting on top in the pack. Centres to Glaws as well , not seen enough of Casson. Back three May and Balshaw the standouts.

Leicester 12 London Irish 15

A powerful pack sees Irish take a valuble 4 points from Welford road. Half backs Brock James is in super form and tearing the T14 up. If Tigers had more of a crash ball centre they could ask questions of Bowden and King a bit more but it's limited at the moment. Back three is a draw but a strong Exciles bench sees them home.

London Wasps 20 Worcester Warriors 20

Sitting on the fence here , plenty of graft in the both sides front 5s with Robson and Wentzel capable of banking there own ball. Dus and Morgan keep the back rows equal with Big Ben on fire. 9/10 to the Warriors centres one a piece with Wuss back 3 having better balance than Wasps.

Newport 10 Northampton Saints 23

Do we want scores now?

Scores are (sorry guys, you've had an extra 18 hours to post predos):

Exeter 25- Ospreys 18
Sale 19 - Saracens 24
Gloucester 29 - Welsh 20
Leicester 22- Irish 24
Wasps 26 - Worcester 21
Scarlets 24 - Blues 18
Dragons 14 - Northampton 34
Quins 19 - Bath 24

woop woop i won again!!

sorry for not voting, i completely forgot!

Maybe the LV cup is the competition for you CF!

haha yup possibly.

ChequeredJersey wrote:Scores are (sorry guys, you've had an extra 18 hours to post predos):

Exeter 25- Ospreys 18
Sale 19 - Saracens 24
Gloucester 29 - Welsh 20
Leicester 22- Irish 24
Wasps 26 - Worcester 21
Scarlets 24 - Blues 18
Dragons 14 - Northampton 34
Quins 19 - Bath 24

Once again, feel free to double-check my workings as I am new to this and admit freely that I may make mistakes

I'm sure someone predicted me a 52-0 win this week , no worries though fella.

Probs just lost in translation ;-)

My fault for predicting in Welsh driver

In the Valleys.....

Ha do one.........i'm not in the valleys!!

They move to Cardiff though ha

And move back!!!