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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 07 Dec 2012, 3:12 pm

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Breaking News: Sale Sharks go into the top 4 for the first time this season after beating Worcester Warriors at home.

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6 Homepage 5London Irish126 0 6 301 293 +8 32 30 2 6 32
7 Homepage 2Gloucester1260 6 289 290 -1 31 31 0 4 28
8 Homepage 50London Welsh12 5 1 6 273 266 +7 28 24 0 6 28
9 Homepage 1Bath Rugby1250 7 277 293 -16 25 32 0 5 25
10 Homepage 6London Wasps 1220 10 247 294 -47 21 33 0 8 16
11 Homepage 57Worcester Warriors1221 9 252 308 -56 21 33 0 4 14
12 Homepage 11Saracens1221 9 248 311 -63 21 34 0 414






Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 07 Dec 2012, 3:53 pm

very excited for this week's rugby. fear for Sale, but expect Saints v Munster and Clermont v Leinster to be classics

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Post by Guest Fri 07 Dec 2012, 4:05 pm

An epic weekend of Rugby ahead. Away most of weekend so will be watching a marathon of games sunday/Monday



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Post by dammit_chris Fri 07 Dec 2012, 4:18 pm

Looking forward to the Saints game - first time they've had Foden, Lawes, Hartley starting in months together! Odd that Dickon is on the bench again, nver been a big fan of Roberts.

Probably the best pack they can put out too - wouldnt want to be hit by Lawes or Samoa.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 07 Dec 2012, 4:44 pm

Can't beat HC weekends!

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Post by stnick88 Fri 07 Dec 2012, 5:55 pm

Anyone got a hooker they can loan me??

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 07 Dec 2012, 6:25 pm

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 07 Dec 2012, 8:11 pm

C'mon Ulster!!!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 07 Dec 2012, 8:22 pm

Great scrum battle, keeps going each way. Saints getting on top a little now

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 07 Dec 2012, 8:29 pm

Hartley does stand up an awful lot. Clever how he gets away with it. Being in a traditionally strong scrum must help.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 07 Dec 2012, 8:34 pm

Brilliant from Afoa and the Ulster scrum. Wheeling then smashing the pressure in.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 07 Dec 2012, 8:39 pm

Finished studying for the night and just tuned in! Looking like agreat start for Ulster

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 07 Dec 2012, 8:43 pm

Saints edging scrum but Hartley popping up kills it

Payne Foden battle only going one way, Payne outstanding

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 07 Dec 2012, 8:47 pm

Ulster looking good and Connacht bossing Biarritz.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 07 Dec 2012, 8:49 pm

Key battles pretty even.

Payne on top of Foden but only really put in a few good kicks. Hardly outstanding to be honest.

Hartley beating Best at the moment. Tonga v Afoa a fine battle which is pretty tight.

Backs rows are tight.

Henderson the standout so far

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 07 Dec 2012, 8:51 pm

Henderson is class.

Saints def winning scrum

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 07 Dec 2012, 8:53 pm

not sure I'd say definatley. They are getting the upper hand but was tight upto 30 mins. The deliberate wheel on their own line was excellent. A definite tactic.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 07 Dec 2012, 8:53 pm

Also Trimble playing well. I'd have played Gilroy myself but he is having a decent game. Both 10's struggling a little.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 07 Dec 2012, 8:54 pm

Think they've won 3 pens haven't they?? All coming from Court really. Afoa/Tiny great battle, really like Afoa

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 07 Dec 2012, 8:55 pm

You supporting Ulster too Pete??

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 07 Dec 2012, 8:57 pm

I like Court think he is a decent loosehead.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 07 Dec 2012, 8:57 pm

Always mate, mums from Enniskellen so technically I am an Ulsterman!

Having said that, my dads mum is from Galway, so I always keep an eye out for Connacht as well.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 07 Dec 2012, 9:02 pm

Yea I'm similar, dad is a Bangor boy. Grandad was Dublin so soft spot for Leinster. Grandma was Italian but don't follow Treviso lol

Yea he's decent Steve but can be got at

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 07 Dec 2012, 9:03 pm

Biarritz playing terribly but getting the real rub of the green with decisions which is keeping them in the game!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 07 Dec 2012, 9:04 pm

That however was brilliant from Payne.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 07 Dec 2012, 9:05 pm

Haha...cheers Jared!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 07 Dec 2012, 9:05 pm

Ulster cruising now!!!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 07 Dec 2012, 9:08 pm

What a scrum from Ulster.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 07 Dec 2012, 9:08 pm

Full turnaround in scrum, this is great to watch

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 07 Dec 2012, 9:09 pm

However you rate Lee Dickson you can't underestimate his importance to Saints. He needs to be on the pitch.

Need a Saints try to make this interesting.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 07 Dec 2012, 9:11 pm

Ulster pack is dismantling Saints. Henry having a stormer, didn't even know Wood was playing until that move

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 07 Dec 2012, 9:12 pm

Thought Wood had a decent enough first half, Needed something special to surpass last week.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 07 Dec 2012, 9:15 pm

Loving Pienaar

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 07 Dec 2012, 9:16 pm

More handbags at the Sportsground. Harinordoquy had a pop at the scrum half Marmion but not so brave when Mike McCarthy waded in!!!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 07 Dec 2012, 9:22 pm

Ulster scrum sooooo dominant. Hartley just can't stay down

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 07 Dec 2012, 9:23 pm

Monster scrum from Connacht to win the penalty there!!!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 07 Dec 2012, 9:24 pm

PDJ has sorted the scrum out, good lad

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 07 Dec 2012, 9:24 pm

16-9 to Connacht, and Dan parks has left 6 kickable points out there!

Biarritz could have been dead and buried here!!!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 07 Dec 2012, 9:45 pm

Rory Best's throwing is very average. He has lost his personal battle with Dylan Hartley for my money

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 07 Dec 2012, 9:52 pm

Not what commenters thought, totally outplayed him

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 07 Dec 2012, 10:15 pm

I thought Hartley was better. Did more of the tough work and better at the lineout. Scrums even.

I thought Barnes said that Best could chalk this one up to Hartley. Might have misheard.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 07 Dec 2012, 10:21 pm

No he said Best was better, was 2nd for motm behind Payne. I thought Hartley was poor tbh

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 07 Dec 2012, 10:24 pm

Not for me.

Payne, Henderson, Henry and Wallace all considerably better than best was tonight. Likes of Trimble, Cave, Afoa also played very well.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 07 Dec 2012, 10:32 pm

I thought Best was immense, we all look at different things. Afoa was class too and Court really grew into it.

Great Ulster performance

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Post by Guest Fri 07 Dec 2012, 11:22 pm

Hartley picked in every broadsheet lions xv on weekend. I am unsure neck and neck for me

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 07 Dec 2012, 11:26 pm

Really can't see it. Has shown nothing and totally outplayed tonight

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 08 Dec 2012, 10:28 am

'totally outplayed' really?

Best is better in the tackle area for me and gets a heck of a lot of turnovers, but Hartley is more of a nuisance in the breakdown, far better throwing and would say scrummaging is even.

Hartley and Wood were the only Saints forwards who came out with any credit yesterday - the rest just didn't stand up at all - can see how some are still coming back from injury.

Can't believe Saints didnt start Dickson, he plays and they perform so much better. They also need a better no8 and not sure when they will ever learn that Ryan Lamb doesnt step up in these games. The Waldouck/Pisi combination doesnt work and they need a better winger than Ken Pisi/Jamie Elliot.

Ulster did get away with so many infringements though, the number of times they go offside was incredible - though they played the ref so much better and played Saints off the park.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 08 Dec 2012, 10:51 am

No he wasn't totally outplayed, bit of an over kill there.

Disappointing from an English perspective though on a whole.

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Post by stnick88 Sat 08 Dec 2012, 11:12 am

That new van velze seems pretty useless to me. Not playing Dickson is crazy he makes them tick. Lack of a top fly half is killing them, although he isn't amazing they could of done with ihumph. Has been great all season for Irish despite playing behind a average pack most weeks. Ulster look a top side have to give them credit

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 08 Dec 2012, 4:48 pm

Thing that Ulster are so good at is playing well collectively, every player just fits into how they want to play the game. Northampton are missing too many players and Mujati and Tonghauia just arent firing at all this year.

Northampton just didnt know what to do to stop it. Nick you are right with Saints and not having a top fly half - they are apparently trying to sign Ford in the summer, Cipriani would have been great for them too, seems to be having a good game for Sale so far - Sale aren't actually that bad a side really.

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