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The Azzrentice Final
by Guest Mon 17 Dec 2012, 3:48 pm
First topic message reminder :
Hello everyone. We're finally here - the Azzrentice Season One Final. Congratulations to Gregers, Soddy and Marky for getting this far, and thank you to all of you who have competed in the competition so far. It's been fun, yet tough. And there can be only one winner.
TEAMS:
The task:
I want you to present to me a vision. A vision of what football really means to you. And to do that, I'm giving you £125m to spend.
With that £125m, I want you to buy a team of 18 footballers, using their TM values as of 24 January 2012 (prepare now but check the values don't go up when you submit). For this 18-man squad, I want you to provide a starting XI, and a briefing on how you want them to play. Not tactics as such, but I want you to inspire the players with a vision for how you want them to play the game.
Now, to help you, I am going to offer you the chance to purchase a manager. You can have another £25m for this - anything you don't spend can be put towards your squad purchases. The manager will be the person who will carry out your vision, who will put it into practice and get the players playing the way you want them to. Not to say that you're choosing the manager's vision of course, but if your vision is of lumping it to Andy Carroll, don't choose Wenger! Manager prices are as follows:
Pep Guardiola - £25m
Jose Mourinho - £25m
Sir Alex Ferguson - £25m
Roberto Mancini - £20m
Arsene Wenger - £20m
Guus Hiddink - £17.5m
Tito Vilanova - £17.5m
Jupp Heynckes - £16.5m
Andre Villas-Boas - £15m
Jürgen Klopp - £15m
Massimiliano Allegri - £15m
Marcelo Bielsa - £13.5m
David Moyes - £13.5m
Diego Simeone - £12.5m
Brendan Rogers - £12.5m
Antonio Conte - £12.5m
Manuel Pellegrini - £10m
Rafael Benítez - £10m
Michael Laudrup - £8m
Chris Hughton - £5m
I will be judging this task on three aspects:
1. The starting XI, including chemistry between players (ie, they have to complement your vision)
2. The substitutes, so you don't buy any old toot to make your first team look better
3. Your vision, including whether your manager is capable of carrying it off
The team with the best XI, subs and vision will win - the prize is still to be determined. Good luck one and all!
DEADLINE IS 2359 ON THURSDAY 24 JANUARY - FRIDAY 25 JANUARY WILL BE AZZRENTICE LIVE
Hello everyone. We're finally here - the Azzrentice Season One Final. Congratulations to Gregers, Soddy and Marky for getting this far, and thank you to all of you who have competed in the competition so far. It's been fun, yet tough. And there can be only one winner.
TEAMS:
| TEAM SODDY | TEAM GREGERS | TEAM MARKY |
| Soddy | Gregers | Marky |
| Afro | Trebs | Viva |
| Olly | Hero | Nando |
| Zebs | GSC | Fan |
| Cherries | Tooze | CF |
The task:
I want you to present to me a vision. A vision of what football really means to you. And to do that, I'm giving you £125m to spend.
With that £125m, I want you to buy a team of 18 footballers, using their TM values as of 24 January 2012 (prepare now but check the values don't go up when you submit). For this 18-man squad, I want you to provide a starting XI, and a briefing on how you want them to play. Not tactics as such, but I want you to inspire the players with a vision for how you want them to play the game.
Now, to help you, I am going to offer you the chance to purchase a manager. You can have another £25m for this - anything you don't spend can be put towards your squad purchases. The manager will be the person who will carry out your vision, who will put it into practice and get the players playing the way you want them to. Not to say that you're choosing the manager's vision of course, but if your vision is of lumping it to Andy Carroll, don't choose Wenger! Manager prices are as follows:
Pep Guardiola - £25m
Jose Mourinho - £25m
Sir Alex Ferguson - £25m
Roberto Mancini - £20m
Arsene Wenger - £20m
Guus Hiddink - £17.5m
Tito Vilanova - £17.5m
Jupp Heynckes - £16.5m
Andre Villas-Boas - £15m
Jürgen Klopp - £15m
Massimiliano Allegri - £15m
Marcelo Bielsa - £13.5m
David Moyes - £13.5m
Diego Simeone - £12.5m
Brendan Rogers - £12.5m
Antonio Conte - £12.5m
Manuel Pellegrini - £10m
Rafael Benítez - £10m
Michael Laudrup - £8m
Chris Hughton - £5m
I will be judging this task on three aspects:
1. The starting XI, including chemistry between players (ie, they have to complement your vision)
2. The substitutes, so you don't buy any old toot to make your first team look better
3. Your vision, including whether your manager is capable of carrying it off
The team with the best XI, subs and vision will win - the prize is still to be determined. Good luck one and all!
DEADLINE IS 2359 ON THURSDAY 24 JANUARY - FRIDAY 25 JANUARY WILL BE AZZRENTICE LIVE
Last edited by Azzy Mahmood on Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:34 am; edited 15 times in total
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Fernando Fri 18 Jan 2013, 11:33 am
Can we have bull since Fan is no longer around? since he seems determined to help anyway 
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Guest Fri 18 Jan 2013, 11:34 am
No. He wasn't in the draft, so he missed out. If he helps you, your team automatically loses the task 
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Fernando Fri 18 Jan 2013, 11:38 am
tell him yourself then 
It's unfair on us if he keeps helping without us requesting it
It's unfair on us if he keeps helping without us requesting it
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by FIFA Diva Fri 18 Jan 2013, 11:39 am
Azzy Mahmood wrote:He has Viva, he has a huge advantage on the other two teams.Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:With Fan gone & I havent seem much of CF wouldnt it be fair to give Marky another team member?
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Afro Fri 18 Jan 2013, 11:48 am
VivaPaulScholes wrote:Azzy Mahmood wrote:He has Viva, he has a huge advantage on the other two teams.Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:With Fan gone & I havent seem much of CF wouldnt it be fair to give Marky another team member?
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Is that a bit like US Postal Service had an advantage in the TdF because they had Lance Armstrong
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Guest Fri 18 Jan 2013, 12:37 pm
Hero - it doesn't matter. I'm not putting you in a league or competition, it's to see who assembles the best team/subs, and who produced the best footballing vision. No need to consider level of opposition (although obviously it would be top level).
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Marky Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:31 am
A question Lord Azzy.
How can we choose players based on their TM values on 25th January when the task deadline is 24th January? Are we expected to gamble the price doesn't go up by Friday morning?
How can we choose players based on their TM values on 25th January when the task deadline is 24th January? Are we expected to gamble the price doesn't go up by Friday morning?
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Guest Wed 23 Jan 2013, 10:34 am
Haha, a mere typo good sir. Well-spotted nonetheless!
TM values as of 24 January
TM values as of 24 January
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Guest Wed 23 Jan 2013, 11:56 am
REMINDER: Azzrentice deadline is 2359 tomorrow night, I need your submissions by then.
I also need Hero / Afro to tell me what the prize is.
I also need Hero / Afro to tell me what the prize is.
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Guest Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:06 pm
But you have to pay P&P, despite knowing the guy who's selling them 
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Trebs Wed 23 Jan 2013, 7:09 pm
As promised:
- TEAM TREBS SUBMISSION:
- Manager - Jurgen Klopp (£15m)
Klopp is one of the brightest young managers in world football. He turned Borussia Dortmund from a low Bundesliga side to a team who won the Bundesliga twice and the German Cup. He has been linked to all the top sides and has a long time left in management to carry out our ambitions. He is known for attacking football and we will be playing a side which is attacking and looks to dominate games.
Team: £135m
--------------------Begovic-------------------
------------Ferdinand----Subotic--------------
Rafinha----------------------------------Gibbs
---------------------Kehl---------------------
----------Cleverley---------Cazorla-----------
Blaszczykowski------------------------Guardado
-------------------van Persie-----------------
GK Asmir Begovic (£3.1m)
RB Rafinha (£4m)
CB Rio Ferdinand (£5.3m)
CB Neven Subotic (£16m)
LB Kieran Gibbs (£4.4m)
RM Jakub Blaszczykowski (£11.5m)
CM Sebastian Kehl (£2.2m)
CM Santi Cazorla (£17.5m)
CM Tom Cleverley (£7.5m)
LM Andres Guardado (£6.2m)
ST Robin van Persie (£38m)
We have built from a quality centre half pairing of Ferdinand and Subotic. We have the younger defender in Subotic and Ferdinand's crucial experience. We are look to play an attacking team with Cleverley and Cazorla dominating games with their incisive passing and the two wingers making runs into the box supported by attacking full backs. Robin van Persie is the best striker in the world and can put away chances whether they are in the air or on the ground. We have a Dortmund influence throughout the side, with Blaszykowski, Kehl and Subotic all playing under Klopp.
SUBSTITUTES
GK Tim Wiese (£2.2m)
DF Miguel Torres (£2.6m)
DF Alessandro Gamberini (£3.5m)
CM Simon Rolfes (£3.5m)
WG Tranquillo Barnetta (£4.4m)
ST Cacau (£1.8m)
ST Shane Long (£4m)
We have plenty of alternative options on the bench. In Miguel Torres, we have a defender who can cover anywhere and Wiese is strong competition for Begovic. Barnetta and Long both add pace to the attack, and we could even bring on Long and go 4-4-2. Cacau is an experienced striker who has scored a lot of goals for Germany as well as Stuttgart.
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Guest Wed 23 Jan 2013, 9:49 pm
Trebs, that's a poor effort. You're fired.
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Marky Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:15 am
Team Marky
- Spoiler:
- Introduction
Over the last week, I have been set the challenge of creating my vision of how football should be played, with the added challenge of choosing the best players and manager to play out my vision while keeping inside the £125m budget for the squad and £25m for the manager. This is what Team Marky has managed to conjure up, with a lot of praise going to Fernando and Viva for their efforts.
My vision
"A vision of what football really means to you"
To me, Football has always been about winning. Naturally it would be ideal to win playing a beautiful passing game, but unless you're Barcelona you have to compromise somewhere to be successful. At Chelsea, Roman's vision was to win with beautiful football, but to win the prize that eluded him the longest, his side showed significant levels of grit, determination and real hard work.
As a Crawley Town fan, my ideal vision has always been to play a passing game rather than a long ball game, but with winning being the main focus rather than style. It would be an old fashioned vision, with a 4-4-2 formation, pacy tricky wingers and good passers of the ball, both box to box style, in the centre of midfield, maybe with one CM being more defensive than the other to provide cover for the defence. A good strike partnership upfront, maybe one with the ability to hold up play and a quicker strike partner to make runs in behind and get shots in on goal. That has actually happened at times at Crawley Town, honest! But my vision would be similar tactics on a bigger scale and at a higher level.
The manager
We were given a budget of £25m to find the ideal manager to fit the vision. There were some superb managers on the list, however we've chosen the most suitable candidate rather than the most successful candidate. We figured there was no point having a Mourinho or Guardiola in charge when those two are known for having their own vision in play. We have chosen David Moyes. Collectively, we came to the conclusion that David Moyes would be the ideal manager to push forward with our vision, which in a nutshell has similar traits to how Moyes and his Everton side work. Our system matches Moyes' Everton in that we share a 4-4-2/4-4-1-1 style with tricky wingers, box to box central midfielders and a talismanic goalscorer upfront (albeit Jelavic is out of form IRL). For these reasons we have decided David Moyes is to be our manager, and for the price of £13.5m, it means the remaining £11.5m of our Managerial Budget can be added to the £125m Players Budget, creating a new Players Budget of £136.5m.
The Players
With the vision, formation and manager in place, the next step was to create a wide pool of players to select the squad from, selecting players for different categories. The different categories were Goalkeeper, Right back, Left back, Centre back, Centre midfield, Winger and Centre forward. Utilising the vast knowledge of my teammates Nando and Viva, we selected several possible players for each position, noting their current TM values and ensuring the price isn't too high. From this, I personally narrowed down the list, eliminating players from the list who I did not feel were suitable for various reasons, leaving us with a smaller pool of players to narrow down to our final squad. I felt there was no point choosing a first eleven as a starting point as this is a squad based challenge, and I will leave the starting XI to last.
I narrowed the pool of players down to 35, this wasn't the aim, but I ended up with 35 players in various positions who I liked and found suitable and within budget, the next step was to cut 17 players and finalise a squad of 18. I chose my own personal squad of 18 players, all fitting within the budget of £136.5m and with a good balance. However, rather than just go with my own, I requested my teammates also chose their own personal squad of 18 players, so we could compare and contrast between each squad. From this we collectively finalised the squad of 18, and from this, we chose who was to play and who was to be on the substitutes bench.
Squad
Gianluigi Buffon £8.8m - widely known as one of the best goalkeepers in the world, a captain and leader.
Brad Friedel £875k - lot to offer, very reliable backup goalkeeper and media reports suggest he'll be playing on for another 18 months.
Aleksandr Anyukov £5.3m - quality right back, gets forward and defends equally well and good on the ball.
Angel Rangel £3.1m - good cover in both fullback positions, picked for his versatility at right back or left back, reliable.
Federico Balzaretti £5.3m - same as Anyukov, a quality left back who can get forward but also do his defensive duties well.
Benedikt Howedes £16m - a superb centre back, rational, organised and physically strong.
Dante £8.8m - another great defender, very well organised and strong.
Victor Ruiz £4.4m - a bargain price for a quality centre back, with all the traits required to not be a weakness if he has to come on at CB as a sub, as many players can be too slow to get to grips I feel Ruiz wouldn't be, which could be vital.
Mohamed Diame £4.4m - a beast of a DM, with great ability on the ball as well, and low cost.
Victor Wanyama £3.3m - as above, only even cheaper!
Antonio Nocerino £7.9m - a great all round centre midfielder, exactly what's required to fit the vision.
Nuri Sahin £8.8m - as above, but also a superb playmaker to match, control of the ball is a must and Sahin is one of the best.
Hatem Ben Arfa £12m - unpredictable, tricky footballer, exactly what's required out wide for us. Hard worker too which is great.
Raheem Sterling £2.2m - pace, trickery and a cool head, exceptional player to bring off the bench if chasing a game or exploiting the counter attack.
Ibrahim Afellay £8.8m - as with Ben Arfa, Affelay has the magic to unlock defences and the work rate to be a part of this team.
Michu £5.3m - natural finisher, bags of goals and the ability to play as a centre forward or just behind as a second striker.
Demba Ba £13m - can hold up the ball, find others, finish well and is a great attacking option.
Klass-Jan Huntelaar £17.5m - you make space for players like Huntelaar, natural goalscorer, plenty of chances bound to be created for you and your job is to take those chances.
Total =£135.775m
Remaining budget of £725k
Starting XI and Substitutes4-4-2
Gianluigi Buffon
Aleksandr Anyukov - Benedikt Howedes - Dante - Federico Balzaretti
Ibrahim Afellay - Nuri Sahin - Mohamed Diame - Hatem Ben Arfa
Michu - Klass-Jan Huntelaar
Subs: Brad Friedel, Angel Rangel, Victor Ruiz, Victor Wanyama, Antonio Nocerino, Raheem Sterling, Demba Ba
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Guest Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:33 am
Very well presented Marky 
I'll reserve my judgement on the content until tomorrow.
I'll reserve my judgement on the content until tomorrow.
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Gregers Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:56 pm
Team Gregers
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Introduction: For me football has always been about entertainment and as I have grown up this has only strengthened. With this in mind I was immidiately drawn to producing a team that would be competitive whilst at the same time giving the fans something to cheer about. With this in mind the real "Vision of what football really means to me" was to create a team that gets the little kid inside me excited. A team that can score out of nothing. In regards to formation there are definitely arguments that can be made for traditional 4-4-2 with a big man and a poacher up front I couldn't get myself away from the formation that has changed football with the good old 4-2-3-1 with the wingers joining in on the fun. Likewise the ticka-tacka football of Barcelona would easily come to mind but replicating that would lead to a poor imitation and I don't believe spending £105million on Messi would be a good use of the £125million player budget.
With this in mind I wanted to create a team that reminds me of why I fell in love with football, a team where the midfield can produce in a tick, a take on the traditional strike partnership.
Manager: With the great selection of Manager's on offer it was soon whittled down to two frontrunners. Whilst arguments can be made for Mourinho, Guardiola and Fergusson their price counted against them. This left us with a choice of David Moyes and Guus Hiddink. Moyes for his management on a tight budget and always getting the most out of his players and Hiddink for the steller work he has done around the globe. For me this was a choice between my head (Moyes) and my heart Hiddink and as this exercise is about my vision within football then I had to go with my heart. Therefore at £17.5 million the manager to lead this footballing vision is Guus Hiddink.
Players: With £7.5 million left over from the manager budget we move onto players with a healthy budget of £132.5 million.
With our footballing vision of exciting fan friendly football that would excite the casual, neutral and hardcore fan alike. It soon became clear that bringing in some natural freescoring players would be key. This lead us to two "big" names.
Robin van Persie
Luis Suarez
These two together set us back a large chunk of our budget with RVP at £38 million and Suarez at £25.5 million costing us a hefty £63.5 million. This left us a decent £69 million to put together the rest of our team. Toni Kroos was also put forward but due to a price hike up to £28 million this was a gamble too far in the end (Note this change was made last minute and I would have been happy to include Kroos had this price hike not happened). Although this may appear a gamble given the massive amount of money outlayed on two players but given the free-scoring nature of this pair we believe it is worth it.
Now we will move onto each position in turn.
GK:
Brad Friedel and Jack Butland = £1.750 million
One obvious choice and one, shall we say, less obvious. The obvious choice being Brad Friedel who for £875k is an absolute steal! Brad is in my opinion, and one shared by my team, one of the best goalkeepers of the premiership over the past decade and shows no signs of slowing down. Butland is less obvious but is one of the best young keepers in the land, with Friedel to guide him and help him move his career forward there is no reason this team cannot dominate for many years to come!
FBs:
Ashley Cole, Angel Rangel and Erik Pieters = £17.6 million
Ashley Cole is selected for a plethora of reasons. First of all he is the best lb in the world, secondly he has won things under Hiddink before and finally he has the ability to get forward. On the other flank we have Rangel who has impressed me no end this season with Swansea and reminds this Chelsea fan of the great Dan Petrescu, I wanted fullbacks who can get forward and that is what we have. Also Rangel can play on both flanks which gives him versatility if disaster strikes. Pieters is selected as the fullback on the bench for similar reasons, the ability to get forward whilst not forgetting how to defend. Finally at £3.5 million he was a bit of a snip.
CBs:
Phil Jagielka, Ashley Williams and Steven Caulker = £17.5 million
Again we went with a trio for the defensive positions. Jagielka has been potentially the best English CB for a while now and whilst Shawcross, Lescott and Terry were considered in the end it had to be Phil. He has, in our opinion, everything a true CB should have. Alongside him we have two players who are both criminally undervalued on Transfermarkt in Williams and Caulker. Williams has been a revelation for Swansea this season providing leadership and the ability to make great tackles. Caulker on the other hand has youth and energy on his side. This is something that we feel is critical as it promotes the attitude of building from the back with fan friendly attacking football.
DCM:
Victor Wanyama and Mohamed Diame = £7.7 million
Another pair of critically undervalued players on TM who have proved this season that they can mix it with the best. We fully expect Wanyama to be making the step up to a major European team in the near future and that is what we expect him to do in our team. He is to sit and allow the attacking players to create. The Makelele role if you like! Off the bench we have Diame the destroyer, a completely different kettle of fish yet still the great DM that this team cries out for. Between Wanyama and Diame we believe we have the tools to stop any team from settling whilst allowing our attacking players to impose themselves.
CM:
Frank Lampard and Jonathan de Guzman = £10.1 million
An easy choice for me with one of the CM options as one of my favourite players of all time gets in and what's more he's still a quality player. Super Franky Lampard. I could write and write about how easy a choice he was for me to make especially as he has won under Hiddink before. Lampard has shown this season that he still has it. Alongside Wanyama he can still express himself and get forward. Our other cm option is de Guzman who actually cost a little more than Lampard! de Guzman has been a revelation this season at Swansea and fits in very well into our side which contains no less than 4 Swans. de Guzman's style fits well into our vision as he is always eager to get forward.
WG:
Wilfried Zaha and Raheem Sterling = £5.3 million
Just two choices on the wings but what a pair of explosive wingers they are. Zaha and Sterling have both exploaded onto the stage this year and hence are still undervalued on TM. Growing up I loved the likes of Duff and Robben coming in, swapping wings and creating havok. This continues to my love of the likes of Callejon today. This is exactly what I want our young wingers to do. Zaha and Sterling are our homage to the great wingers I loved watching as a kid.
CAM/SS:
Luis Suarez and Michu = £30.8 million
The decision to include Suarez for us was a simple one, we wanted someone who is able to create something out of nothing and can excite the casual fans just as much as the hardcore ones. For all of his faults is there anyone who fits this description better than Suarez? He is a prolific goalscorer who arguably plays best just behind a true number 9 and that is where he will play in our ode to football. The "bench" option is our final Swan with the prolific Michu giving us something completely different when we need it. The little kid in all of us knows exactly what the opposing defences would be thinking knowing that someone like Michu can come off of the bench if they have somehow negated Suarez and our deadly number 9.
CF:
Robin van Persie and Didier Drogba = £40.6 million
The little kid inside me has just gone into full wrestling mark out mode! Are there two names that would send more shivers down a defences spine? RVP is the luxury that this team deserves, yes he has set us back almost a quarter of our budget but for the value that you get from that it is an absolute snip. RVP is a player who can create something out of nothing and is arguably the best CF in the world at least in regards to being able to contribute assists as well. RVP and Suarez are dangerous enough but with Michu coming off the bench as well? Finally we come onto our secret weapon. A certain Didier Drogba. At £2.6 million we couldn't say no to the man who won the Champions League for Chelsea last year. He has known success through his whole career including under Hiddink and although he may not be the man he was in his prime he is still able to terrorize defences. Just ask any cb's who have faced him over the past 5 years.
So to summarise we present to you the vision of football through the eyes of a child, a team capable of bringing together the Casual Fan, the Neutral Fan and the Hardcore Fan.Manager: Guus Hiddink
Formation: 4-2-3-1
Friedel
Rangel ------------- A.Williams --------- Jagielka ---------------- A.Cole
Wanyama ------- Lampard (c)
Sterling ------------------------ L.Suarez -------------------------- Zaha
van Persie
Subs: Butland/Caulker/Pieters/Diame/de Guzman/Michu/Drogba
Total = £148.85 million (Remaining budget of £1.15 million)
So there you have it Lord Azzy, the team based on my vision of football. A team that can turn defence into attack, a team that can cause the casual and neutral fans to sit up and watch. A team capable of getting the little kid inside every hardcore football fan to scream with joy.
Thankyou to all of my team for their contributions, especially GSC and Trebs, with whom this team would not have come together in the way that it did.
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Guest Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:59 pm
Thank you Gregers, well done
Just waiting for Team Soddy. Two hours left Soddy!
Just waiting for Team Soddy. Two hours left Soddy!
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by sodhat Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:04 pm
I am here, I have cheetos and I am ready to cobble some garbage together. I'm not even going to look at the others submissions cos I don't want to have to live up to them.
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by sodhat Thu 24 Jan 2013, 11:03 pm
Sodhat's final meal.
- Spoiler:
- My vision for football in brief is a quick paced game. One that looks to move the ball forward quickly but incisively and with no lack of passing mastery. I like wingers to dribble, and I like young players impudence. I've based the whole thing around these ideals.
Manager - Jurgen Klopp (£15m)
I have gone with Jurgen Klopp as my manager for a variety of reasons. First and foremost he advocates a brand of football that is attractive to me; being quick, incisive, passing football that is geared to attack.
Secondly, he is fearless in his nurturing of youth. Look at his Dortmund sides and you can see a selection of young players that he has trusted, and that have been paying him back. He clearly has a good eye for young players, and a good style of man management to get the best out of them.
The last reason is his success. He has taken on the might of Bayern Munich for the last few seasons and proved their match with a budget nowhere near the size of their rivals. Each year his side has grown and evolved, and now they are reaping the rewards with a foray into the knockout stages of the Champions League.
Player (budget £135m):
Goalkeepers:
Roman Weidenfeller - £3.5m
I am a believer in experience at the back, and that the goalkeeper needs to have a knowledge of what his coach wants to see on the field. I go for Weidenfeller for the obvious reason that he'll know intuitively what his coach is looking for. At 32 he isn't too old by any stretch, and for the next 5 or 6 years he should be peaking.
Fabian Giefer - £2.2m
Young, German and he'll learn from Weidenfeller. He fits the mould for a back up keeper, and playing in the Bundesliga we know he is capable and not a crappy throwaway back up.
Defenders:
Lukasz Pisczek - £11m
Aside from being another Dortmund player, he is also a player I am a big fan of. He once scored a wonder goal for me on Fifa, so he can't be bad, can he? Modern football is leaning toward full backs being a threat going forwards and being able to power up and down the wings. He can do that, and it's what I want to see from him at right back.
Federico Balzaretti - £5.3m
Another player I am a fan of, and another who can bring the ball forward and be a threat on the wing.
Mats Hummels - £21.5m
I am blowing a huge chunk of cash on a centre back, but with good reason. He is in to lead the defence in the manner the coach will expect. On top of that he is a ball playing centre half that is comfortable stepping up the field with the football. He can pick a pass from the back and get the team on the move.
Winston Reid - £3.1m
You are probably all raising your eyebrows at this point, but this is my team dammit, and I love Winston Reid. He is athletic, committed, a physical presence and a talented defender. At times he has been our best player this year, and along side Hummels he offers something different and a certain flexibility in our defence.
Marco Capuano - £1.6m
Oddly, I played a FM game as Pescara and I came across him. Then I saw Pescara on ESPN, and he's a very talented player. Not only can he do the work at the back, he showed a capability to come forward, (creating what should have been a winning chance) he can play on the side of defence too, so we have options here.
Luke Shaw - £1.3m
Young, talented and someone who could contribute when required. He fits my coaches ethos of trusting youth as well.
Midfielders
Sebastian Kehl - £2.2m
Kehl is a coach on the field, and an extension of my coaches vision (shared by me). He brings experience and does some of the dirty work that will allow my other players to play.
Marco Verratti - £10.5m
A deep lying playmaker is vital to my kind of football, and it's the position I wish I was good enough to play. It's making everything you do look simple while at the same time probing and opening the other team up. Verratti is young and one great player to watch. I'd have him sat deep and have him work the ball for us.
Erik Lamela - £19.5m
I tend to see a lot of Roma, and a lot of this guy. I tried to sign him before but Bull robbed me. I don't forget. Anyway, he is a great player to have sat in the hole between midfield and attack and I would let his magic left foot open up defences for me. He is well capable of chipping in with goals too, and Totti himself has appointed him as his successor at Roma.
Dries Mertens - £10.5m
Against Afro's judgement is risky, but I like Mertens so much that I'm sticking him in with a maverick move. Everytime I see him play, I see a direct, skillful winger with an eye for goal and I like the way he plays the game. I can see him working with my side, and cutting in from the left wing.
Cristian Tello - £7.9m
All Sky do is play Barcelona, so I see Tello fairly frequently. He may be battling with other superstars for game time, but every time I have watched him he has played fantastically. Being young and creative, he fits the ethos here perfectly. He is versatile enough to work on either side.
Lewis Holtby - £9.7m
The poor sod will end up at Tottenham, but before he does he can dream about breaking into my dream team. A great AM who could also operate on a flank - important versatility in a small squad.
Raheem Sterling - £2.2m
I guess TM haven't updated his price yet. I'm not above taking advantage of that. He's young, pacey, direct, and he fits.
Forwards
Mario Mandzukic - £14m
A real focal point for my attacks - he offers a dual threat of aerial prowess and talent on the ground. He can operate up there on his own too, and all I want from a striker is effort and clinical finishing.
Diego Milito - £7m
Talking of clinical finishing. Yeah, he's well old like, but he scores goals like it's going out of fashion.
Adam Le Fondre - £875k
You know what, it's getting late. I'm tired. I have £2m left. I like that this guy just scores wherever he seems to play so I am taking a flier and jamming him in my squad. Who knows, he may pop up off the bench from time to time.
Total on players: £133.875m
Manager: £15m
Total spent: £148.875m
Starting XI (4-2-3-1)
-----------Weidenfeller
Piszczek---Reid---Hummels---Balzaretti
-----------Kehl---Verratti
Tello--------Lamela----------Mertens
-----------Mandzukic
Subs:
Giefer, Shaw, Capuano, Holtby, Sterling, Milito, Le Fondre
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Guest Fri 25 Jan 2013, 10:08 am
Azzrentice Live at 12pm, or soon after 
In the meantime, if any of the three contestants wishes to elaborate on their submissions, please feel free to do so
In the meantime, if any of the three contestants wishes to elaborate on their submissions, please feel free to do so
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Marky Fri 25 Jan 2013, 10:19 am
I won't be elaborating on my submission only other than mentioning my subs bench has every position in my formation covered. Unless the sub gets injured, then its just bad luck.
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Gregers Fri 25 Jan 2013, 10:33 am
Just like to wish both Marky and soddy the best of luck
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by sodhat Fri 25 Jan 2013, 10:40 am
Thanks Gregers, good luck to you too.
Not to Marky though.
Not to Marky though.
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Marky Fri 25 Jan 2013, 10:44 am
Gregers wrote:Just like to wish both Marky and soddy the best of luck
That's loser talk
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Guest Fri 25 Jan 2013, 12:10 pm
Good afternoon gentlemen.
I'd like to start by thanking everyone who has been a part of this season's Azzrentice competition. It's been really tough judging the entries each week, great quality submissions from you all. And congratulations to Soddy, Marky and Gregers for reaching the Final.
Let's just remind ourselves what I'll be judging the three competitors on:
1. The starting XI, including chemistry between players (ie, they have to complement your vision)
2. The substitutes, so you don't buy any old toot to make your first team look better
3. Your vision, including whether your manager is capable of carrying it off
I'm going to start off with number 3, the Vision.
Soddy, I was disappointed that your Vision was so brief (I know you've been busy). Marky and Gregers put in much better descriptions of how they would see their team playing, and as such they will get better marks for this element of the task than you will.
Marky - I like the simplicity of your Vision. This is how football was played when we were kids. David Moyes was a good choice as manager, as he epitomises your Vision.
Gregers - yours is the Vision I liked the most. Creating an entertaining, exciting team that can produce moments of magic. Choosing David Moyes would have been a mistake, and I think Guus Hiddink is a very solid choice to carry out your Vision.
I'd like to start by thanking everyone who has been a part of this season's Azzrentice competition. It's been really tough judging the entries each week, great quality submissions from you all. And congratulations to Soddy, Marky and Gregers for reaching the Final.
Let's just remind ourselves what I'll be judging the three competitors on:
1. The starting XI, including chemistry between players (ie, they have to complement your vision)
2. The substitutes, so you don't buy any old toot to make your first team look better
3. Your vision, including whether your manager is capable of carrying it off
I'm going to start off with number 3, the Vision.
Soddy, I was disappointed that your Vision was so brief (I know you've been busy). Marky and Gregers put in much better descriptions of how they would see their team playing, and as such they will get better marks for this element of the task than you will.
Marky - I like the simplicity of your Vision. This is how football was played when we were kids. David Moyes was a good choice as manager, as he epitomises your Vision.
Gregers - yours is the Vision I liked the most. Creating an entertaining, exciting team that can produce moments of magic. Choosing David Moyes would have been a mistake, and I think Guus Hiddink is a very solid choice to carry out your Vision.
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Marky Fri 25 Jan 2013, 12:19 pm
Good afternoon Lord Azzy. My God, you look terrific. Have you lost weight?
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by sodhat Fri 25 Jan 2013, 12:23 pm
I CANNOT TYPE A SENTENCE WITHOUT RESORTING TO VULGAR LANGUAGE... (that has been taken by the swear filter. I had insinuated that Marky was licking Azzy's behind.)
Hello Lord Azzy.
In truth my vision was so short because my laptop was running out of battery and I left the charger upstairs. It would have been longer had I started with it, but I added a fair bit of it in to the bit on Klopp.
Hello Lord Azzy.
In truth my vision was so short because my laptop was running out of battery and I left the charger upstairs. It would have been longer had I started with it, but I added a fair bit of it in to the bit on Klopp.
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Guest Fri 25 Jan 2013, 12:24 pm
So, onto the Starting XI. Three interesting teams!
Marky - You have a solid back three, my worry with the FBs is that both are more offensive-focussed than defensive-focussed, and that might get you caught out at times.
Diame is a solid DM. While I like Sahin, he hasn't shown enough of his ability to justify picking him ahead of so many other options. I was very surprised you went for him after the 12-18 months he's had. Ben Arfa and Afellay are both very good choices for the wing - again, with both being far more attacking than defensive, I'd worry about your flanks being prone to attack. Not a criticism as such, just a consideration.
Huntelaar fits my personal vision of a 4-4-2 with a traditional number 9. While he may not physically be your typical #9, he definitely plays like one. Good selection.
I was surprised to see Michu playing alongside him, but then again Michu has been coverted to a striker this season and looks comfortable there.
Overall, a very good team that would do well.
Marky - You have a solid back three, my worry with the FBs is that both are more offensive-focussed than defensive-focussed, and that might get you caught out at times.
Diame is a solid DM. While I like Sahin, he hasn't shown enough of his ability to justify picking him ahead of so many other options. I was very surprised you went for him after the 12-18 months he's had. Ben Arfa and Afellay are both very good choices for the wing - again, with both being far more attacking than defensive, I'd worry about your flanks being prone to attack. Not a criticism as such, just a consideration.
Huntelaar fits my personal vision of a 4-4-2 with a traditional number 9. While he may not physically be your typical #9, he definitely plays like one. Good selection.
I was surprised to see Michu playing alongside him, but then again Michu has been coverted to a striker this season and looks comfortable there.
Overall, a very good team that would do well.
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Guest Fri 25 Jan 2013, 12:24 pm
Why yes, yes I have. Thanks for noticingMarky wrote:Good afternoon Lord Azzy. My God, you look terrific. Have you lost weight?
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Guest Fri 25 Jan 2013, 12:31 pm
Gregers - your starting XI was a mixed bag - veterans mixed with star players mixed with youngsters. Interesting.
The purchase of RVP and Suarez playing centrally in the hole gives you goals galore. I was very impressed that you broke the bank to guarantee two world class players, something neither of your rivals have done.
Friedel is a solid keeper, not spectacular, can't save a penalty, but a good communicator and a stable presence behind your back four.
Williams is an excellent CB, I've been impressed with him every time I've seen him. A very astute purchase. I think Jagielka alongside him was a very good move, as I think they'd complement each other well.
Rangel at RB is a weakness - you could have had a better RB. But then again, he plays well with Williams, and as you have the attacking threat ahead of him, Rangel could hang back.
Cole is one of the 3 best LBs in the world - along with Alba and Baines - a very good purchase.
Wanyama would be an excellent DM.
Lampard as captain is a bold move, but in this formation, he could work and be effective. Definitely the leader you'd need in this team.
I was flabbergasted that you put Zaha and Sterling on the opposite wings to which I've seen them play all season. Great signings both, they fit your vision perfectly, but bizarre positioning there. A let down.
I've already touched on Suarez-RVP, what a combination that would be!
The purchase of RVP and Suarez playing centrally in the hole gives you goals galore. I was very impressed that you broke the bank to guarantee two world class players, something neither of your rivals have done.
Friedel is a solid keeper, not spectacular, can't save a penalty, but a good communicator and a stable presence behind your back four.
Williams is an excellent CB, I've been impressed with him every time I've seen him. A very astute purchase. I think Jagielka alongside him was a very good move, as I think they'd complement each other well.
Rangel at RB is a weakness - you could have had a better RB. But then again, he plays well with Williams, and as you have the attacking threat ahead of him, Rangel could hang back.
Cole is one of the 3 best LBs in the world - along with Alba and Baines - a very good purchase.
Wanyama would be an excellent DM.
Lampard as captain is a bold move, but in this formation, he could work and be effective. Definitely the leader you'd need in this team.
I was flabbergasted that you put Zaha and Sterling on the opposite wings to which I've seen them play all season. Great signings both, they fit your vision perfectly, but bizarre positioning there. A let down.
I've already touched on Suarez-RVP, what a combination that would be!
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Gregers Fri 25 Jan 2013, 12:35 pm
If I can I would like to point out that Sterling and Zaha would be swapping wings in a similar vain to Duff/Robben.
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Marky Fri 25 Jan 2013, 12:42 pm
While not my place to say, I don't believe that Suarez and RVP would work together, seeing as both are finishers and not too keen on sharing the limelight. Both have played as well as they have as the main man upfront.
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Guest Fri 25 Jan 2013, 12:43 pm
Soddy - A back five that was let down by your selection of Reid, who would 100% be a weak link. He's played well in games this season, but that could be a temporary blip in form after never appearing to be of a good enough ability.
Same comment on Balzaretti, his penchant for attacking could let you down at the back.
Kehl-Verratti is a dream partnership, really excellent.
I like Lamela as the AM, Tello is obviously a solid choice too. Mertens is the most random pick of all three teams, but you are correct in that he has plenty of skill and likes to get forward. Kudos for that selection.
Mandzukic is also a good buy, holds the line up well and scores plenty.
Same comment on Balzaretti, his penchant for attacking could let you down at the back.
Kehl-Verratti is a dream partnership, really excellent.
I like Lamela as the AM, Tello is obviously a solid choice too. Mertens is the most random pick of all three teams, but you are correct in that he has plenty of skill and likes to get forward. Kudos for that selection.
Mandzukic is also a good buy, holds the line up well and scores plenty.
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Guest Fri 25 Jan 2013, 12:44 pm
RVP works well with Rooney, who is just as much of a limelight hogger as Suarez. Suarez also needs to play centrally to be most effective, and with defenders struggling to cope with RVP, I think Suarez would get plenty of room behind him.Marky wrote:While not my place to say, I don't believe that Suarez and RVP would work together, seeing as both are finishers and not too keen on sharing the limelight. Both have played as well as they have as the main man upfront.
And you're right, it's not your place
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Guest Fri 25 Jan 2013, 12:54 pm
On to the subs.
Marky - Brad Friedel, Angel Rangel, Victor Ruiz, Victor Wanyama, Antonio Nocerino, Raheem Sterling, Demba Ba - that is a very strong bench, four game-changers, two versatile defenders, good keeper. A great bench that I think ANY team would love to have.
Gregers - Butland/Caulker/Pieters/Diame/de Guzman/Michu/Drogba - a weaker bench than your rivals I'm afraid, Pieters was an astonishing buy considering he's been out for 9 months, came back, got a red card, smahed a window, ruined his arm and is now out for a few more months. No team should be looking at him really! Michu is the only real threat in my book, Drogba's talents have melted in China and De Guzman and Diame won't threaten going forward. A disappointment.
Soddy - Giefer, Shaw, Capuano, Holtby, Sterling, Milito, Le Fondre - three game changers, it's a shame Holtby didn't fit your Vision as he's an excellent player. A dangerous bench, let down by the signing of Adam Le Fondre - he may have scored a few goals recently, but come on. He's never getting on the pitch ahead of Milito.
Marky - Brad Friedel, Angel Rangel, Victor Ruiz, Victor Wanyama, Antonio Nocerino, Raheem Sterling, Demba Ba - that is a very strong bench, four game-changers, two versatile defenders, good keeper. A great bench that I think ANY team would love to have.
Gregers - Butland/Caulker/Pieters/Diame/de Guzman/Michu/Drogba - a weaker bench than your rivals I'm afraid, Pieters was an astonishing buy considering he's been out for 9 months, came back, got a red card, smahed a window, ruined his arm and is now out for a few more months. No team should be looking at him really! Michu is the only real threat in my book, Drogba's talents have melted in China and De Guzman and Diame won't threaten going forward. A disappointment.
Soddy - Giefer, Shaw, Capuano, Holtby, Sterling, Milito, Le Fondre - three game changers, it's a shame Holtby didn't fit your Vision as he's an excellent player. A dangerous bench, let down by the signing of Adam Le Fondre - he may have scored a few goals recently, but come on. He's never getting on the pitch ahead of Milito.
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Guest Fri 25 Jan 2013, 12:57 pm
So, decision time...I'll send one of you home first, then decide between the remaining two.
Marky - a good vision, a good XI, and a great bench.
Gregers - a great vision, a great XI, but a poor bench.
Soddy - a solid vision, a good XI, and a good bench.
On this evidence, I have to say this:
Marky - a good vision, a good XI, and a great bench.
Gregers - a great vision, a great XI, but a poor bench.
Soddy - a solid vision, a good XI, and a good bench.
On this evidence, I have to say this:
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Guest Fri 25 Jan 2013, 12:58 pm
You're in the final.
So it's between Gregers and Soddy. All three of you put forward excellent and enjoyable submissions, but based on what was provided...
Soddy, you're fired.
Well done though, a really good final piece from you.
So it's between Gregers and Soddy. All three of you put forward excellent and enjoyable submissions, but based on what was provided...
Soddy, you're fired.
Well done though, a really good final piece from you.
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Guest Fri 25 Jan 2013, 12:59 pm
At 1400 I'll get back to Gregers and Marky and decide who is the first Azzrentice champion
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Marky Fri 25 Jan 2013, 1:00 pm
Thank you Lord Azzy. I can do about an hours worth of work now
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by sodhat Fri 25 Jan 2013, 1:01 pm
Boo!
That's fair enough really. My piece was a little undercooked and the other guys gave really good stuff in.
I would like to thank Afro. Had it not been for the fact he did some work for me, I probably wouldn't have submitted anything. Both because he made it easier for me to select a team, and because I felt I owed him and his effort the respect of putting something in, even if it lost.
Thank you to Lord Azzy too. Fair in his judgements, but wildly wrong on Winston Reid. He'll show you. You'll see.
That's fair enough really. My piece was a little undercooked and the other guys gave really good stuff in.
I would like to thank Afro. Had it not been for the fact he did some work for me, I probably wouldn't have submitted anything. Both because he made it easier for me to select a team, and because I felt I owed him and his effort the respect of putting something in, even if it lost.
Thank you to Lord Azzy too. Fair in his judgements, but wildly wrong on Winston Reid. He'll show you. You'll see.
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Guest Fri 25 Jan 2013, 1:04 pm
Well played Soddy, a true gentleman of the game 
I knew you'd been busy, but with the effort the other guys put in, it did show through. I'll be happy to be proven wrong by old Winston, but he cost you £5m and until the last 15 or so games hasn't been a £500k CB, never mind a £5m one. I await with baited breath
I knew you'd been busy, but with the effort the other guys put in, it did show through. I'll be happy to be proven wrong by old Winston, but he cost you £5m and until the last 15 or so games hasn't been a £500k CB, never mind a £5m one. I await with baited breath
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by sodhat Fri 25 Jan 2013, 1:06 pm
Remind me how many West Brom put past West Ham at the Hawthorns...?
Who did Gary Neville select as man of the match, and the prime reason you boys didn't win the match... It was big Winston. #hatersgonnahate
Who did Gary Neville select as man of the match, and the prime reason you boys didn't win the match... It was big Winston. #hatersgonnahate
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by sodhat Fri 25 Jan 2013, 1:09 pm
And good luck to the other two finalists by the way, they have both earned a place there.
I do hope the team with Viva in it doesn't win though. He'll only brag.
I do hope the team with Viva in it doesn't win though. He'll only brag.
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Afro Fri 25 Jan 2013, 1:18 pm
sodhat wrote:And good luck to the other two finalists by the way, they have both earned a place there.
I do hope the team with Viva in it doesn't win though. He'll only brag.
Despite offering the least of the team members, I'm sure the win will be down to him
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Afro Fri 25 Jan 2013, 1:28 pm
It doesn't detract from your excellent submission 
In fact I think it reflects even better on you that it was a 2.5 man job
In fact I think it reflects even better on you that it was a 2.5 man job
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Re: The Azzrentice Final
by Marky Fri 25 Jan 2013, 1:30 pm
BigFellasAfro wrote:It doesn't detract from your excellent submission
In fact I think it reflects even better on you that it was a 2.5 man job
3 man job. CF offered to help twice.
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