Best chins in boxing today.

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Hi guys newb here

I wanted to know what peoples thoughts and opinions are on the top five (or ten)hardest chins in boxing in this current era that are active, mine is as follows...


1-Marquez
2-Vitali Klitschko
3-Oliver McCall
4-James Tony
5-Carl Froch

Ive picked Marquez first due to him having so many fights and never been stopped, yes he has been beat and dropped a fair few times but has always came back and showed true grit and determination to see the final bell, all the positions in my list are debateable even marquez but Imo think Ive chosen a solid top five.

cheers Springer

John Bloody Wayne wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

Lumbering_Jack wrote:It's not like saying that at all. Silly comparison.

whats the difference?

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Feet:

Very funny indeed John...

Glad someone could see the sillyness of his comment.

Lumbering_Jack wrote:

John Bloody Wayne wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

Lumbering_Jack wrote:It's not like saying that at all. Silly comparison.

whats the difference?

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Very funny indeed John...

Glad someone could see the sillyness of his comment.

Sillyness of my comment hahah you're the one trying to say Vitali has a weak chin in boxing because he got knocked out in a different sport by a spinning back kick which is prohibited in boxing.

He's not saying its weak, he's saying its not as strong as someone who's NEVER been knocked out.

And this is me defending LJ - so he must be in the right, I'd never dream of it otherwise.

JabMachineMK2 wrote:He's not saying its weak, he's saying its not as strong as someone who's NEVER been knocked out.

And this is me defending LJ - so he must be in the right, I'd never dream of it otherwise.

But the poster asked who had the strongest chin in this era of boxing. If you are going to use the fact he was knocked out by a kick you would then have to use the fact that someone is knocked out by a weapon too because both are banned in boxing.

You can't judge a mans chin in the boxing ring by attacks in a different sport that are illegal in boxing.

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Froch has proven his chin time and time again against the best his division has to offer, Kessler, Abraham, Bute, Johnson and Pascal could all hit and hit very hard but didn't make a dent in him. His chin to me is more proven than Vitalis which is largely based on that one uppercut, no doubting it's made of granite but can't have him above Froch.

Just watched the Vitali Klitschko v Sanders fight and Klitschko took some massive straight lefts to the face and never went down. I must aso say the first 3 rounds of that fight were very entertaining and sanders is a true warrior (RIP)

I think that the upper cuts vitali took from Lewis and the 4/5 massive straight lefts vitali took from Sanders show the true strength of his chin.

When has Froch been hit clean in the face by a massive punch? I don't think he has ever taken the kind of blows vitali took against Lewis or Sanders.

Thank god the well respected jabby came running to my defence. Not sure I'd be able to carry on otherwise.

Froch had taken shots from Kessler, Bute, Abraham and Johnson all who wack a bit.

And Vitali was dropped of Sanders, watch the fight.

Alverez seems incredibly tough to me. He takes a fair few shots but just seems to walk through them.

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Thank god the well respected jabby came running to my defence. Not sure I'd be able to carry on otherwise.

Froch had taken shots from Kessler, Bute, Abraham and Johnson all who wack a bit.

And Vitali was dropped of Sanders, watch the fight.

You can't defend yourself?

Froch never took any shots from Bute. And when did he take any massive shots on the chin from the others?

And you already mentioned vitali was dropped to which I replied it was an illegal rabbit punch/push on the back of the head so of course it should not count as a knock down and the ref was right in not scoring it as a knock down.

What next are you going to say bowe was knocked down by golotas illegal low blows?

Talking of chins..

Bowe was knocked down...

Vitali has been ko'd and dropped be relative light punchers in the HW division. That much is not even up for debate. I still think he has a good chin, but it is not as cast iron as some would have you believe.

And Wlad should be in the top 5, really? Think I will leave it at that.

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Bowe was knocked down...

Vitali has been ko'd and dropped be relative light punchers in the HW division. That much is not even up for debate. I still think he has a good chin, but it is not as cast iron as some would have you believe.

I think your anti-klitschko views have blinded you. You have sunk to new lows if you are trying to say klitschko was knocked down by sanders when it was an ILLEGAL punch/grab and throw that the referee correctly ruled a NO knock down. Vitali has never been ko'd or knocked down in the boxing ring.

You talked about froch being higher than klitschko so please tell me a fight where he has taken a bigger punch than vitali did against sanders and lewis? please don't just mention random names of people who he has fought like you did before by mentioning bute when bute did nothing in that fight. actually tell me a person and a round where froch took a solid shot on the chin.

Another K-bot fanboy.

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Another K-bot fanboy.

I'm guessing you are a justin bieber fanboy

Jean Pascal has a decent chin.

victorgarco wrote:

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Another K-bot fanboy.

I'm guessing you are a justin bieber fanboy

Thats just a Low Blow. Dq loss

Might be a bit of a stab in the dark but i think Kell Brook could turn out to have a very good chin, he took a lot of punishment from Jones and although hurt wasn't in danger of going down.

I would say Glen Johnson, i mean the guys 43 years old and is still almost impossible to hurt. If McCall still boxes then he's right up there, probably the best chin i've ever seen, the only time i saw him even remotely hurt was against Bruno in round 1 who had a incredible KO percentage. Incredibly for someone his age he still speaks very well which is a surprise to me.

It's been a little while since I watched it, but I'm pretty sure Froch was clocked on the chin by Pascal a few times, who was a particularly dangerous fighter in the first four rounds at 168.

He was also hit on the chin by Bute but chose to stand and trade, and when he hit Bute on the chin it was much more noticable than vice versa. He was tagged far more than he needed to be by Johnson. Thing is with Froch, he doesn't really acknowledge that he's taken a massive shot because he doesn't even seem to notice, so others don't either. That's my take on it anyway.

Vitali certainly has a good chin, but I think he dines out on that uppercut a bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNK1Z4xryZQ

Watch that video from 6:50
He gets tagged and clearly hurt, goes running backwards in an ungainly fashion because he's hurt then Sanders gets to him again on the ropes and he goes down, as a result of being hurt by punches. The Barrera v Marquez knockdown was also ruled a slip by the ref if memory serves correctly, but it clearly wasn't.

John Bloody Wayne wrote:It's been a little while since I watched it, but I'm pretty sure Froch was clocked on the chin by Pascal a few times, who was a particularly dangerous fighter in the first four rounds at 168.

He was also hit on the chin by Bute but chose to stand and trade, and when he hit Bute on the chin it was much more noticable than vice versa. He was tagged far more than he needed to be by Johnson. Thing is with Froch, he doesn't really acknowledge that he's taken a massive shot because he doesn't even seem to notice, so others don't either. That's my take on it anyway.

Vitali certainly has a good chin, but I think he dines out on that uppercut a bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNK1Z4xryZQ

Watch that video from 6:50
He gets tagged and clearly hurt, goes running backwards in an ungainly fashion because he's hurt then Sanders gets to him again on the ropes and he goes down, as a result of being hurt by punches. The Barrera v Marquez knockdown was also ruled a slip by the ref if memory serves correctly, but it clearly wasn't.

Sanders had a massive punch. The guy knocked out Wlad in 2 rounds and nearly knocked Rahman through the ropes in their fight. Vitali was hurt by that punch but I think that it is down to his solid chin that he never went down. Can't think of many other fights who would have taken that punch flush and still be on their feet.

Kell brook is a name I mentioned before and I think against Jones he showed he has a solid chin.

My top 3 in no order would be Vitali, Wach, Valuev.

Why Wach? He absorbed a load of shots against Wlad but didn't he test positive for banned substances?

He did go down. I agree he has a top drawer chin and among the best today but he did go down.

John Bloody Wayne wrote:Why Wach? He absorbed a load of shots against Wlad but didn't he test positive for banned substances?

He did go down. I agree he has a top drawer chin and among the best today but he did go down.

If you go to 7 mins you will see that Sanders uses his right hand to push klitschko down. He grabs the back of his head and throws him down. There's no punch and it was an illegal move and correctly scored a no knock down.

Well, my take on it is that he was on jelly legs and folded.

John Bloody Wayne wrote:Well, my take on it is that he was on jelly legs and folded.

Yes no doubt he was shaken from that massive punch that hit him straight in the face and it is amazing that he took that punch full power and stayed on his feet. I think if there was longer to go in the round Klitschko could have been in serious trouble because that punch had some serious power behind it. I do think Klitschko went down because he was shaken and disorientated but it was not a punch that sent him down it was a grab so I don't think theres any argument that it cannot be counted as a knock down. Also the commentators never disagreed with the ref's decision not to call it a knock down.

John Bloody Wayne wrote:Why Wach? He absorbed a load of shots against Wlad but didn't he test positive for banned substances?

Well if I believed everything I read on this board it was Klitschko who put banned substances into Wach's food and drugged him.

victorgarco wrote:

tunes666 wrote:

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Froch
Vitali
Chavez jnr
Pavlik
Abraham

Has tended to always be the middleweight division which has produced the cast iron chins and the current crop isn't any different.

how is Froch above vitali?, Froch has been floored before and Vitali in the heavyweight division has not.

People will say that froch has fought better people etc I think Vitali should be number 1 the uppercut he took from eLewis that didn't even make him flinch shows how tough he is. Any other fighter would have been ko'd by an uppercut like that but Vitali walked right through it.

Fair enough but regardless of who has fought better opposition a chin can only be assessed by how stern it has been proven to be, in a boxing Ring Vitali has not come close to being floored.... would better opposition expose it more, maybe but we don't know. Also Froch has not really faced that much better opposition...

Froch has faced a level of opposition far beyond that of Vitali, it's not even really comparable.

Vital has been floored in a boxing ring, Sanders had him down.

And as for saying Froch has not really faced much better opposition... Well that is sheer stupidity.

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Vital has been floored in a boxing ring, Sanders had him down.

And as for saying Froch has not really faced much better opposition... Well that is sheer stupidity.

It was not even a punch , sander dragged the back of his head which is illegal. it's like saying that golata' low blows on bowe should count a a knock down because bowe went down due to them. if the attack is an illegal attack it does not count. I suggest you read the rules on boxing before commentating Jack

Na he didn't he pushed him down. I dont think Vitalis ever been knocked out or down, Reid fought in the light contact tourny so he probably landed flush and the fight got stopped.

When quizzed about it, WBC Heavyweight Champion Klitschko allegedly asked, “Who’s Pele Reid?”, and when he was reminded that Pele was supposed to have KO’d him in a kickboxing match, Klitschko answered, “It was so long ago that I forgot all about him. I lost that fight because of a kick to the thigh, not because of any punch.

Surely nobody can have Wlad in their top 5? Assuming this is p4p stylee, I wouldn't have a figher that has been decked a dozen times in their career in my top 50

Vitali was ko'd with a kick to the jaw.

Tua Mccall Mercer three top chins - also Ibeabuchi. Tua had been knocked out when he was a teen by felix savon but never in pros. Mercer was knocked out end of his career by wlad but apart from that it didnt let him down. Oliver mccall - pure granite.

He was tko which is different from a clean Ko - it was a light contact fight.

Various reports online say Vitali was knocked out cold... Sure I've seen it but to be frank and don't have the desire to look for it as this Vitali love thread is boring.

Night everyone.

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Vitali was ko'd with a kick to the jaw.

Thing is there is no video footage of the fight. Some people say he was kicked in the face others say he was kicked in the leg. Vitali even says he was kicked in the leg.

You say he was ko'd with a kik to the jaw but you have never seen the fight so how can you argue 100% that he was?

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Various reports online say Vitali was knocked out cold... Sure I've seen it but to be frank and don't have the desire to look for it as this Vitali love thread is boring.

Night everyone.

Quite ludicrous really isn't it, the over compensation the brothers are receiving now is silly.

Goodnight Lumber. Dream sweet Wlad dreams

1) Vitali didn't get knocked down by sanders he was dragged to the floor. He was hurt plenty though.

2) Vitali's chin is proven in boxing.

3) McCalls chin is not proven in kick boxing.

4) Both can take mighty hard thuds to the head whether it be from blunt instruments or limbs.

Watched Tua Ibeabuchi last night and it was effing glorious.

what a freakin fight!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWiSxZkObWU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjrdlfpzVPM

Watch and be amazed

I've not seen all of his fights but Rodrigo Guerrero needs a mention. Took an absolute hammering off Vic Darchinyan for 12 rounds and didn't go down. It was at Super Flyweight as well where Darchinyan can really punch, not the fight that a 15 fight novice needed really.

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Thank god the well respected jabby came running to my defence. Not sure I'd be able to carry on otherwise.

Froch had taken shots from Kessler, Bute, Abraham and Johnson all who wack a bit.

And Vitali was dropped of Sanders, watch the fight.

Won't bother in future then you miserable sod.

Imperial Ghosty wrote:

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Various reports online say Vitali was knocked out cold... Sure I've seen it but to be frank and don't have the desire to look for it as this Vitali love thread is boring.

Night everyone.

Quite ludicrous really isn't it, the over compensation the brothers are receiving now is silly.

Being told Wlad has a top 5 chin is probably one of the most ridiculous things I've read on this forum.

Victor, have you ever actually watched a Froch fight? To question whether or not he's ever had to take clean punishment to the head is pretty odd, to say the least.

When Taylor decked him, it was no flash knock down; 'Bad Intentions' hit him with a crisp combination (and let's remember, Taylor was boxing like the superstar many predicted he'd become after usurping Hopkins in the early stages of that bout) with each shot taking that little bit more from Froch's legs, eventually putting him over. However, though clearly buzzed, he was still up without ever looking as if he'd fail to do so.

Dirrell, when he finally decided to show what he could do, hit Froch with lefts, rights, hooks, uppercuts and everything else you can imagine between rounds seven and eleven, and still Froch remained unbowed.

The Pascal and Kessler fights were both slugfests in which both men were often wide open and taking clean shots. There's a reason why they were both 'Fight of the Year' contenders and let's be honest, it ain't because of Carl's slick, defensive boxing going away, is it?

Johnson hit him with far too many hard right hands over the top than he should have done, really; Froch soaked each one of them up and fired off two or three of his own in return. A cursory glance at his face after the Ward bout will tell you that Ward had little trouble in finding him. As for Buté, you need to take another look. Froch went all out and, as he marched his man down, had to take a few clean ones coming in - it's just that he could walk through them, whereas Buté was rocked to his boots every time Froch landed, and had all of the fight beaten out of him even a couple of rounds before the stoppage in the fifth.

You couldn't be any wider off the mark with your claim that he's taken no clean head shots if you tried, mate. On the contrary, he's taken heavy punches in just about every fight he's had at world level, Abraham and Mack aside.

Without question one of the tip-top chins in the sport today, and of the past few years, in fact.

Not sure anyone can doubt Froch has a granite chin, he walks through shots like no other fighter today.

Malinaggi seems to get overlooked in the chin department, but the punishment he took against Cotto showed just how good his chin is.

Froch wouldn't be half the fighter he is without having such a granite chin, the manner in which he destroyed Bute was based largely on his ability to walk through his best shots and fire off his own.

David Coultard and Sophie Ellis Bexter, they could take tysons best !

I'd like to ask everyone to kindly make sure they see the difference between 88Chris05 and sirtidychris.

Cheers!