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Should Hopkins be refused a licence in the UK???

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 08 Jan 2013, 8:54 pm

The guy is nearly 50...he can only fight 1/2 minute a round on average.....No one should be fighting professionally at that age in my opinion..on medical grounds alone..

Furthermore I don't want to see Warren go down.... the get a half dead legend over here and proclaim his Man a great after he's beaten him...route!!

BBBC should refuse a licence If and when Hoppo asks for one..

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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue 08 Jan 2013, 9:00 pm

Nope, because he is legitamately the number 1 or 2 LHW on the planet.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 08 Jan 2013, 9:02 pm

So there shouldn't be any age restrictions.....we shouldn't worry about health issues...

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Post by 88Chris05 Tue 08 Jan 2013, 9:03 pm

Impossible to deny Hopkins any kind of licence right now, Truss; it's less than two years ago since he was making history as the oldest world champion ever and it's not as if he's been getting pasting after pasting since then, is it? While he's still operaring at his current level (and even a level below that would be acceptable), showing no signs of brain trauma and still living the kind of lifestyle that even the most dedicated of athletes would have trouble sticking to, then let him box if that's what he wants is what I'd say.

Anyway, Hopkins would never, ever fight in the UK in any case.
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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue 08 Jan 2013, 9:04 pm

You take it case by case, he's been fine fighting top level opponents like Dawson and Pascal in the past couple of years, his age is only a concern on the limitations he is showing, and right now he seems fine.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Tue 08 Jan 2013, 9:06 pm

Not untill he is laid out on his back, gets dominated by a journeyman or something comes out on a scan

He could still beat every LHW outside the top 5 so there is no reason for him to be refused a licence

If he wants to bow out its his decision and untill it looks as if he could be a danger to himself by carry on boxing no-one has the right to refuse to allow him to fight

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 08 Jan 2013, 9:08 pm

The body slows down.......loses it's ability to regenerate as well.....Scientific facts....

So what If he doesn't show open deterioration....It's in his fighting!!

He can't fight more than 3o seconds a round!!

Nearly 50 and the bbbc should make a stand..

It's a joke......

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 08 Jan 2013, 9:10 pm

I thought Ali looked good against Leon Spinks...........wasn't too impressed with the heavyweight 38 yr old that fought Holmes though!!!...

So we'll wait for a 50 year old to get trashed before deciding????

very good.

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Post by 88Chris05 Tue 08 Jan 2013, 9:14 pm

Ali's speech was clearly slurred by the time he avenged Spinks, and he'd taken a hell of a lot more punishment than Hopkins has so far in his long, illustrious career. As Alex alludes to, no two cases are the same.

Maybe Hopkins will get badly splattered by a second rate pretender soon - but that's guesswork. Right now, apart from his age (which doesn't equate to a reason in itself), there is no reason why he shouldn't be allowed to fight.
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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue 08 Jan 2013, 9:16 pm

"Can't fight more than 30 seconds a round" Erm, you did watch the Pascal fight did you not, he was terrific that night, fighting form the very beggining of the fight unlike many of his previous and then fighting for the majority of of the rounds, fading slightly later on and getting caught, yes. However, this is not evidence to suggest he shouldn't be given a licence, if it was plenty of fighters shouldn't be given a licence.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 08 Jan 2013, 9:18 pm

It equates to a reason in the amateurs...35 isn't it????

One exception shouldn't make a rule.......

we don't want 45/50 year olds fighting.....

and he spoils at least two minutes a round......watch him..

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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue 08 Jan 2013, 9:24 pm

Not against Pascal he doesn't, granted there is spoiling etc. however he was the one pressing the action the majority of the time, rewatch the fight please, I recently rewatched it and haveit very fresh in my mind.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 08 Jan 2013, 9:27 pm

I've watched he uses every trick in the book.......gassed terribly against Calzaghe..

His tank is shot...why athletes are passed it in their early thirties...

Boxers are athletes...

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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue 08 Jan 2013, 9:37 pm

His tank is probably far greater than plenty of fighters out there.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 08 Jan 2013, 9:44 pm

Science proves otherwise........

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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue 08 Jan 2013, 9:45 pm

What he is achieving still in the ring proves otherwise.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 08 Jan 2013, 9:51 pm

How does it prove otherwise????????

He can't fight more than agood half minute a round....geez.

Just because there is a load of garbage about.. it's folly to forget the risks....

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Post by AlexHuckerby Tue 08 Jan 2013, 10:23 pm

Protest then Truss, run around Didsbury naked or something, christ I can't be bothered arguing with you.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Tue 08 Jan 2013, 10:30 pm

Well he beat Pascal and Pavlik not so long ago so see no reason for his licence to be revoked, had you mentioned Jones then I may agree but Hopkins is still one of the top boxers in his division.

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Post by spencerclarke Tue 08 Jan 2013, 10:55 pm

As ghosty has alluded to there are a lot of other boxers that need to be turned down a licence before Hopkins. If he passes medicals then I can't see why he can't carry on.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Tue 08 Jan 2013, 11:52 pm

utter nonsense refusing someone on age. Each case has to be looked at individually and if youa re top 5 in thw world (meaning youa re STILL onne of the best) why would you be refused the right to box?

What next? should we refuse Vitali the right to box cos he is nearly 42 even though hes top 2 in the HW division?

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Post by Atila Wed 09 Jan 2013, 1:02 am

AlexHuckerby wrote:Nope, because he is legitamately the number 1 or 2 LHW on the planet.
Really? When was the last time he proved it?

The reason he's hanging around is because he just keeps getting title shots that he hasn't earned and people just assume that he's one of the top fighters in his division. I bet you if he had to fight 3 or 4 contenders to earn his shot he would either lose a fight or he would say it's not worth it at his age and retire.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Wed 09 Jan 2013, 1:17 am

Atila wrote:
AlexHuckerby wrote:Nope, because he is legitamately the number 1 or 2 LHW on the planet.
Really? When was the last time he proved it?

The reason he's hanging around is because he just keeps getting title shots that he hasn't earned and people just assume that he's one of the top fighters in his division. I bet you if he had to fight 3 or 4 contenders to earn his shot he would either lose a fight or he would say it's not worth it at his age and retire.

He has lost once in his last seven fights, is that really a record to force him into retirement? No! of course not.

There is not a shred of evidence which proves his age should force him into retirement.

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Post by Super D Boon Wed 09 Jan 2013, 1:21 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:The guy is nearly 50...he can only fight 1/2 minute a round on average.....No one should be fighting professionally at that age in my opinion..on medical grounds alone..

Furthermore I don't want to see Warren go down.... the get a half dead legend over here and proclaim his Man a great after he's beaten him...route!!

BBBC should refuse a licence If and when Hoppo asks for one..

New or relatively new anti ageist laws have been passed in the UK so if the British governing bodies reject Hopkins on age grounds then they're getting themselves into a right old pickle in doing so, so they are!

The only way you stop him is to prove he's not corpus mentis and he still seems pretty lucid to me so basically the answer to your article is NO!

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Post by AlexHuckerby Wed 09 Jan 2013, 5:03 am

Atila wrote:
AlexHuckerby wrote:Nope, because he is legitamately the number 1 or 2 LHW on the planet.
Really? When was the last time he proved it?

The reason he's hanging around is because he just keeps getting title shots that he hasn't earned and people just assume that he's one of the top fighters in his division. I bet you if he had to fight 3 or 4 contenders to earn his shot he would either lose a fight or he would say it's not worth it at his age and retire.

Beat Pascal twice (Gimme a break it was surely twice) when Pascal was the number one LHW to make him number one, Dawson beat him to take top spot, but who else has proven themselves beyond B-Hop at LHW?

Besides, Boxrec have him at Number 1, and as Union will explain. their ranking system is foolproof.

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