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Post by Ospreydragon Sun 03 Feb 2013, 5:20 pm

First topic message reminder :

A very interesting opening weekend in the 6N. Good wins for Ireland and England, and a great one for Italy, who showed some nice touches and are devloping their play (unlike Wales).

Here's a typically hyperbolic journalist (or sub-editor's headline) in today's Express:

"Rob Howley Planning to Dump Failures"

http://www.sundayexpress.co.uk/posts/view/375256/Rob-Howley-planning-to-dump-failures

Nothing in the article to state who is going to be dumped, and no surprise there.

Will Howley have the cojones to drop some players? Jenkins, Shingler, and one of the centres? We'll see!

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Post by wales606 Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:34 pm

France showing Wales how to maul
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Post by Barney McGrew did it Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:34 pm

Is the team in blue Italy or France?
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Post by Cari Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:34 pm

Looks like Szarsewski got a smack in the knackers.

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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:35 pm

two catch and drives in their 22 and they had us on toast, watch thier catch and drive now...

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Post by wales606 Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:35 pm

French lineout on the 22, a maul will put them a lot closer

Wales need to hold out here
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Post by George Carlin Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:35 pm

Michelak's kicking has been Wales' secret weapon. Completely pish.
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Post by t1000advancedprototype Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:36 pm

Both as bad as each other!

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Post by Cari Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:36 pm

Being Devil's Advocate, Michalak is playing out of position. No wonder he's schitt. Not that I'm complaining, mind...

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Post by wales606 Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:36 pm

Gethin Jenkins does have some uses

Looking to prove his critics wrong, good work

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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:36 pm

Credit to Jenkins, his breakdown work has been excellent

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Post by George Carlin Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:37 pm

wales606 wrote:Gethin Jenkins does have some uses

Looking to prove his critics wrong, good work

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I am not familiar with this player. Is anyone able to comment about his work around the park?
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Post by wales606 Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:40 pm

Almost through on the inside ball
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Post by HammerofThunor Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:40 pm

Roberts' surprise tactic of passing almost paid off

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Post by Cari Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:40 pm

Bum! I thought Georgie was going to break through there.

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Post by tatterd Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:41 pm

we are masters of turning attack into defence Crying or Very sad

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Post by wales606 Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:41 pm

Poor phases by Wales
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Post by HammerofThunor Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:41 pm

No full back is the new numbers


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Post by Cari Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:41 pm

Was Picamoles offside there?

Jiffy going spare saying "No fullback! No fullback!"

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:41 pm

The decision making is bizzare.

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Post by wales606 Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:42 pm

HammerofThunor wrote:Roberts' surprise tactic of passing almost paid off

Laugh
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Post by tatterd Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:42 pm

How many times must I say it. Wales attack = Poopie

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Post by wales606 Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:42 pm

Paul James on as a blood replacement
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Post by Cari Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:42 pm

Melon blood subbed. That means PJ must be on?

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Post by bsando Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:42 pm

wish jiffy would put a sock in it. let the players get on with it!!

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Post by wales606 Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:43 pm

Long range shot?

There is only 40 seconds left
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Post by Cari Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:43 pm

BBC pundit before the match "Wales must target Bastereaud..."

Jiffy just now "Why are they running at Bastereaud...?"

Can't blydi win can they?!

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Post by wales606 Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:44 pm

Up and under tactic has worked

The drop goal tactic hasn't so far
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Post by t1000advancedprototype Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:45 pm

I actually predicted 12-9 to France. I didn't expect it to be THIS bad.

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Post by wales606 Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:45 pm

Phillips has been aggressive and kicked well, but also slow, ponderous and passing terribly.
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Post by Cari Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:45 pm

You can always rely on the French crowd to let you know when the game's poor...

HT 3-3. Here's hoping for an improved second half. Hook on?

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Post by tatterd Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:46 pm

sums it up- Mark Jones take a bow (triple facepalm)

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Post by wales606 Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:47 pm

Wales will be happy with 3 - 3

Wales need to improve, but tend to finish stronger, so will have been happy to tire out some of the big french forwards making them defend in their own half a lot.
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Post by t1000advancedprototype Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:47 pm

Mike Phillips been excellent
Biggar been very good

Still not enough ball getting to the wings

Jamie Roberts is ineffective

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Post by Guest Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:47 pm

Cari wrote:BBC pundit before the match "Wales must target Bastereaud..."

Jiffy just now "Why are they running at Bastereaud...?"

Can't blydi win can they?!

Not running at him though, around him!

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Post by wales606 Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:47 pm

Cari wrote:You can always rely on the French crowd to let you know when the game's poor...

HT 3-3. Here's hoping for an improved second half. Hook on?

Lloyd Williams would make more of an impact, Biggar has been the one making ground in the backs!
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Post by asoreleftshoulder Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:47 pm

Weird game,both teams will be very disappointed to have only 3 points as there were numerous chances for more.

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:48 pm

Given that Wales' deal with Satan doesn't let them play well in two halves, what's going to happen in the second half?

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Post by George Carlin Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:48 pm

Defences have been so tight - it will open up in the second half.

Getting set piece parity with France at home is encouraging - lots of people here perhaps being a bit harsh? Headscratch Cuthbert and North have been busy, 1/2p has been solid, Tipuric has been hammered in the tackles but is still trying.
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Post by tatterd Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:48 pm

coombs looks one for the future tho

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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:48 pm

Strange tactics, Wales seem to be hitting the 13 channell and allowing Bast to do what he does, and why Wales are so SO structured going forward I don't know!!!

If a Welshman offloads the ball in contact I think I will schitt my pants.

Tipuric has been absolutely wonderfull, he is single handedly murdering France at the breakdown.

Plus side is Bast will only get weaker, he'll tire, and so does Picamoles and Oudrago in recent times!! I just get the feeling if Wales are looking to tire the France pack we might stand the slightest chance!!

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Post by wales606 Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:49 pm

tatterd wrote:coombs looks one for the future tho

Coombs looking better than last week, but I can't help thinking that having a makeshift lock isn't helping our scrum
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Post by Barney McGrew did it Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:49 pm

Well, one of these teams went into this competition as favourites to win it. Just can't tell which one.
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Post by Guest Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:49 pm

I think before the game we would have taken a draw at half time. We were predicted to be pasted so, as we're still in it and tend to be better in the 2nd half (famous last words!), then we must be fairly happy. Rubbish skills all round though.

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Post by majesticimperialman Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:50 pm

close game so far both teams playing better than they did last week.
Will be interesting to see who scores first in the second half.

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Post by Cari Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:50 pm

I think it will open up second half because players will start to tire...

More pundit clichés... I've heard the sentence "The game's there for the [both sides] taking..." three times now. Rolling Eyes

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Post by wales606 Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:50 pm

Tipuric proving a point, he should have been first choice for the last year. Him and Ryan Jones have been the difference from the first half last week.
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Post by t1000advancedprototype Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:51 pm

I think Stephen Jones is the only welsh 10 that would chip over the top!

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Post by Cari Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:51 pm

wales606 wrote:Tipuric proving a point, he should have been first choice for the last year. Him and Ryan Jones have been the difference from the first half last week.

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Post by wales606 Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:53 pm

Roberts and Davies isn't working again. Cuthbert and North are actually making ground when they get the ball, but neither Roberts or Davies are really are the top of their game. Roberts has shown glimpses over the last 2 weeks though, Davies defence has been poor this half.

Perhaps we should have Roberts at 13 running the blitz?
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Post by tatterd Sat 09 Feb 2013, 5:53 pm

An offload, an offload, my kingdom for an offload...................I'd like to see the stats - Wales must offload the least out of all international sides. 2005 seems a very long time ago

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