The v2 Forum
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.
The v2 Forum

The forum for all serious sport fans; from football to cricket, rugby to golf, boxing to tennis, motorsport to darts; debate the big sporting and non-sporting issues here.


PEDS again, or not?

+3
Imperial Ghosty
TRUSSMAN66
TheMackemMawler
7 posters

The v2 Forum :: Sport :: Boxing

Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty PEDS again, or not?

Post by TheMackemMawler Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:22 am

There's not a chance in hell that young lads like Frampton are taking PED's.

Footy is certainly not.

I doubt Calazaghe or Froch did/do either.

Maybe our lads sometimes fall short for that very reason?
TheMackemMawler
TheMackemMawler

Posts : 2606
Join date : 2012-05-24
Location : Lincolnshire

Back to top Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty Re: PEDS again, or not?

Post by Guest Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:53 am

Its a possibility what with all the recent failed drug tests & the questionable 'nutritionists & Strength & conditioning coaches' working with some of the top fighters at the moment. But sometimes I feel that training techniques in UK boxing haven't progressed much compared to the USA. It seems there's a lot of 'tried & tested', one sizes fits all approach to Boxing training here, the S & C not being looked at/ created purely with boxing in mind. Also some of the fine tuning/tweaking we see/hear about in the USA seems to be lacking here. Watching some behind the scenes stuff, especially with Hunter & Khan is really interesting. Also with MMA so big in the states & an evolving sport boxing over there seems to have a better attitude towards it & has been taking a few tips from it. I found your links with regards to improving footwork on another thread really interesting, can also see why you are such a fan of rigo & fancy his chances.

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty Re: PEDS again, or not?

Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:58 am

What are you saying that every other Country is cheating??.......

Nothing to base that on....

TRUSSMAN66

Posts : 40529
Join date : 2011-02-02

Back to top Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty Re: PEDS again, or not?

Post by TheMackemMawler Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:25 am

No.

Just the ones based in your country!

I can't believe that's being taken seriously


Last edited by TheMackemMawler on Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:15 am; edited 1 time in total
TheMackemMawler
TheMackemMawler

Posts : 2606
Join date : 2012-05-24
Location : Lincolnshire

Back to top Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty Re: PEDS again, or not?

Post by Imperial Ghosty Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:36 am

Like Larry Olubamiwo?

Imperial Ghosty

Posts : 10156
Join date : 2011-02-16

Back to top Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty Re: PEDS again, or not?

Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:15 am

We don't need to cheat.....

Robbo, Ali, Armstrong, Louis, Dempsey etc........i

We have a heritage..

TRUSSMAN66

Posts : 40529
Join date : 2011-02-02

Back to top Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty Re: PEDS again, or not?

Post by JabMachineMK2 Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:21 am

I'm going to have to say Mackem this is a gross generalisation, I'd have to say there are a number of international boxers who don't take PED's who are doing mightily well.

JabMachineMK2

Posts : 2383
Join date : 2012-02-10
Age : 104

Back to top Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty Re: PEDS again, or not?

Post by Guest Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:37 am

TheMackemMawler wrote:There's not a chance in hell that young lads like Frampton are taking PED's.

Footy is certainly not.

I doubt Calazaghe or Froch did/do either.

Maybe our lads sometimes fall short for that very reason?

So what is your opinion, is that why you think our lads fall short?

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty Re: PEDS again, or not?

Post by hampo17 Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:46 am

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Like Larry Olubamiwo?

Did anyone listen to Skysports toe2toe this week? Larry was on and they asked him about the drugs, his excuse was that he was working two jobs and needed help recovering and all he was doing was levelling the playing field. Spencer Fearon had to try and hide his laughter when he said the PEDs didn't help him against McDermott.

Apparently he'll be fighting again soon so hopefully they'll be very strict with his testing.

hampo17
Admin
Admin

Posts : 9108
Join date : 2011-02-25
Age : 36

Back to top Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty Re: PEDS again, or not?

Post by Guest Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:57 am

hampo171 wrote:
Imperial Ghosty wrote:Like Larry Olubamiwo?

Did anyone listen to Skysports toe2toe this week? Larry was on and they asked him about the drugs, his excuse was that he was working two jobs and needed help recovering and all he was doing was levelling the playing field.

He should just give up his bodybuilding job & stick to boxing!



Spencer Fearon had to try and hide his laughter when he said the PEDs didn't help him against McDermott.


Sometimes there are times when its best to say nothing!


Apparently he'll be fighting again soon so hopefully they'll be very strict with his testing.

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty Re: PEDS again, or not?

Post by TheMackemMawler Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:17 am

I can't believe people are biting at a tongue in cheek comment?

Next time i will remember to write lol.
TheMackemMawler
TheMackemMawler

Posts : 2606
Join date : 2012-05-24
Location : Lincolnshire

Back to top Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty Re: PEDS again, or not?

Post by Guest Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:28 am

TheMackemMawler wrote:I can't believe people are biting at a tongue in cheek comment?

Next time i will remember to write lol.

Nah don't bother better the jokes on us! lol!!

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty Re: PEDS again, or not?

Post by JabMachineMK2 Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:08 am

Aye I fell hook line and sinker Mackem my old mate.

You suck dirty bum for fooling me.

JabMachineMK2

Posts : 2383
Join date : 2012-02-10
Age : 104

Back to top Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty Re: PEDS again, or not?

Post by TheMackemMawler Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:14 am

Suck Dirty Bum!! Haha!

I'm having a drink tonight so expect worse!
TheMackemMawler
TheMackemMawler

Posts : 2606
Join date : 2012-05-24
Location : Lincolnshire

Back to top Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty Re: PEDS again, or not?

Post by JabMachineMK2 Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:18 am

No more posts on here while drunk! I didn't even see your last one but it remains in legend.

JabMachineMK2

Posts : 2383
Join date : 2012-02-10
Age : 104

Back to top Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty Re: PEDS again, or not?

Post by TheMackemMawler Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:24 am

It was Christmas after all. Anyway, I won't be getting ratted tonight, just tipsy.
TheMackemMawler
TheMackemMawler

Posts : 2606
Join date : 2012-05-24
Location : Lincolnshire

Back to top Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty Re: PEDS again, or not?

Post by Imperial Ghosty Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:27 am

Man up Mackem, i'll be getting ratted and firing abuse in the direction of Victor I presume.

Imperial Ghosty

Posts : 10156
Join date : 2011-02-16

Back to top Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty Re: PEDS again, or not?

Post by Strongback Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:19 am

The young fighters don't need ped's as their natural levels of testosterone are high and they can train hard and recover.

At 30 it gets harder for a fighter but when you see a guy hitting 40 getting bigger with better endurance while hitting like a mule you need to have a look at who his strength and conditioning coach is.

Strongback

Posts : 6529
Join date : 2011-07-02
Location : Matchroom Sports Head Office

Back to top Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty Re: PEDS again, or not?

Post by seanmichaels Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:46 am

Strongback wrote:The young fighters don't need ped's as their natural levels of testosterone are high and they can train hard and recover.

At 30 it gets harder for a fighter but when you see a guy hitting 40 getting bigger with better endurance while hitting like a mule you need to have a look at who his strength and conditioning coach is.

Stongy, what are your thoughts on the power Froch displayed in his last fight?

seanmichaels
seanmichaels
seanmichaels

Posts : 13369
Join date : 2012-05-25
Location : Virgin

Back to top Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty Re: PEDS again, or not?

Post by Strongback Tue Feb 12, 2013 12:57 am

He showed a fair bit of power in his last two fights. I don't want get into specifics about a fighter as it just gets removed.


What I do think is guys in their 30's will be feeling the pace and whether to take Ped's or not will be on the agenda if they had been clean up to that point.

Strongback

Posts : 6529
Join date : 2011-07-02
Location : Matchroom Sports Head Office

Back to top Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty Re: PEDS again, or not?

Post by seanmichaels Tue Feb 12, 2013 1:15 am

Strongback wrote:He showed a fair bit of power in his last two fights. I don't want get into specifics about a fighter as it just gets removed.


What I do think is guys in their 30's will be feeling the pace and whether to take Ped's or not will be on the agenda if they had been clean up to that point.

Yes, I meant the Bute fight. Forgot the Mack fight.

seanmichaels
seanmichaels
seanmichaels

Posts : 13369
Join date : 2012-05-25
Location : Virgin

Back to top Go down

PEDS again, or not? Empty Re: PEDS again, or not?

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top

- Similar topics

The v2 Forum :: Sport :: Boxing

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum