Triple H (Possible Raw Spoilers)

Following on from the stipulation added for the Lesnar v HHH match I was wondering who people see ending Triple H's career.

I think he will want to put someone over and also has the ego to want some reverence surrounding it. Does he have long left? And will he be willing to risk losing his final match to someone who may not make a mark in the WWE history books?

I actually think Lesnar could be the man. He's got a two year contract, is a monster and would be put over as a super-heel with victory, has a bit of a legendary status even without longevity and this Mania may actually see HHH stand out far more if he were to retire due to the main event being a rematch.

If not Lesnar then I'd love to see Punk go over him for revenge of that awful feud they had and to get him uber heat. If Austin isnt appearing at Mania 30 then Punk v HHH with Punk trying to do what Lesnar could not.

I can't see it at all, their match will not be the headlining match, it could potentially be the third in the pecking order behind Rock vs Cena and Punk vs. 'Taker. I couldn't possibly see Triple H leaving without being the final act, in the same way that Undertaker won't leave midway through the card, Triple H is a huge name and his retirement would be a big deal.

Secondly, I think you also have to take into account that although Triple H has taken a back seat role in terms of wrestling, focusing more now on booking and the business as a whole, as a wrestler he'll know that he still has a lot to offer. He's much healthier than Undertaker, he's very over and he still looks like a legitimate threat. While I doubt he's going to be returning to the full-time wrestling, I think as long as he's healthy he'll still be fighting, because he knows that as a commodity, he's still very valuable and much more valuable for now in the ring. Unlike Shawn Michaels, he'll still be taking a hugely active role in WWE, it's not like his retirement would be a real retirement, he's not going to go spend more time with his family at home, he'll still be on the road, still taking a big part in the events, he may as well keep that on screen as well as off screen, particularly if he deals with feuds that don't have a huge negative effect on the full-time roster.

Thirdly, Triple H beating Lesnar is the logical conclusion to the storyline, Lesnar already beat Triple H once, he broke his arm and his friend's arm. Lesnar than left, Triple H acted as if he wanted to quit. The logical conclusion to the storyline is that Triple H beats his nemesis, saves his career and the good guy wins. I can't see this feud extending any longer than Wrestlemania, so it makes sense for Triple H to end it on a high note.

I think there's still the possibility that Triple H will leave, but I really can't see it. He'll go away after Wrestlemania, maybe hint that he's ending his career on his own terms, but something will bring him back. Maybe Punk would be a good option, but it depends on whether WWE want to return to that era of Punk's character, of the rebelling "voice of the voiceless", which he has in many ways moved away from now, it'd also mean Triple H might go out as a heel.

i would change the title mate. just put 'triple h' you dont wanna upset peeps

My fave bit about it is that he came out of retirement to be put into a match where the stip is if loses he retires. Genius!

It really depends on the conditions of Lesnar's new deal in my opinion, if he's going to work more, say 30 dates a year on TV/PPV then I think he'd be a great guy to drop his career too, Lesnar would benefit from it and so would guys who go over him but if Lesnar's deal is similar to his first years then I don't think he should get it.

CM Punk is the obvious choice, he always seems to be these days with anything but he's a guy who could be a major star, he already is a big star but could be absolutely huge if they allow it, this kind of win would do that and in turn should help line Triple H's pockets

Randy Orton would be another credible shout, he's still only 32/33, got his best years in front of him and has done so much, he needs a major kick stary though and has all the history needed to be the logical and credible option to sink Helmsley

Sheamus is the guy who many believe is the natural successor to HHH, they've had a bit of history and we all know Trips was a big fan of his and a big influence in his initial push and first World Title run, he's more John Cena than Triple H these days but is another with his best years ahead of him, he could be a guy that they could make huge, a win like that would go a long way.

Ryback could be the guy, if the WWE are truly behind him then a win like this would propel him to the level they seem to want him to be at, he's still very rough around the edges but garners great reactions and if they want him to be then he could easily be the guy they go with, not my first choice but wouldn't be my last.

Daniel Bryan would be a really interesting shout, everyone knows he could be a major star, he could easily be the Kurt Angle of this era, he needs to be considered to be more credible tho, he loses to many matches and even though he's seen as a specialist he isn't expected to get big wins, I believe he could sell PPV's and a win over HHH and ending his career could be monumental for him and the whole landscape, add to that he came through HBK's training school and Shawn is a massive fan of him this might not be as inconcievable as I first thought.

Antonio Cesaro is a guy I think ticks every single box, he looks great, he's excellent in the ring, is a very good promo guy and knows how to work a crowd, he's another one who could be a major star and a win and achievement like that would almost instantly cement him as a top guy

I don't think HHH can beat Brock Lesnar, though I'd like to be proved wrong

trips signed a contract last year that said he was wrestling till 2014 or something either way he will win anyway lol.

I'm putting it out there now, Lesnar beats HHH

What's the thinking behind it Doc?

On phone just now, will explain later

Sorry mate, no pressure, when I first thought about it I thought that might be a carrot dangled in front of him to sign a new deal

hes talking to vince, blatantly.

Kay Fabe wrote:It really depends on the conditions of Lesnar's new deal in my opinion, if he's going to work more, say 30 dates a year on TV/PPV then I think he'd be a great guy to drop his career too, Lesnar would benefit from it and so would guys who go over him but if Lesnar's deal is similar to his first years then I don't think he should get it.

CM Punk is the obvious choice, he always seems to be these days with anything but he's a guy who could be a major star, he already is a big star but could be absolutely huge if they allow it, this kind of win would do that and in turn should help line Triple H's pockets

Randy Orton would be another credible shout, he's still only 32/33, got his best years in front of him and has done so much, he needs a major kick stary though and has all the history needed to be the logical and credible option to sink Helmsley

Sheamus is the guy who many believe is the natural successor to HHH, they've had a bit of history and we all know Trips was a big fan of his and a big influence in his initial push and first World Title run, he's more John Cena than Triple H these days but is another with his best years ahead of him, he could be a guy that they could make huge, a win like that would go a long way.

Ryback could be the guy, if the WWE are truly behind him then a win like this would propel him to the level they seem to want him to be at, he's still very rough around the edges but garners great reactions and if they want him to be then he could easily be the guy they go with, not my first choice but wouldn't be my last.

Daniel Bryan would be a really interesting shout, everyone knows he could be a major star, he could easily be the Kurt Angle of this era, he needs to be considered to be more credible tho, he loses to many matches and even though he's seen as a specialist he isn't expected to get big wins, I believe he could sell PPV's and a win over HHH and ending his career could be monumental for him and the whole landscape, add to that he came through HBK's training school and Shawn is a massive fan of him this might not be as inconcievable as I first thought.

Antonio Cesaro is a guy I think ticks every single box, he looks great, he's excellent in the ring, is a very good promo guy and knows how to work a crowd, he's another one who could be a major star and a win and achievement like that would almost instantly cement him as a top guy

Out of that list I'd go with Cesaro, I think out of the people above he needs the push the most because at the moment he seems to be in no mans land and it would be a massive shame for him to stay there too long, he's probably in my top 5 wrestler's (mainly on potential and his Very European Uppercut) and if he doesn't get a massive push in the next few years then I'll be shocked.

Kay Fabe wrote:Sorry mate, no pressure, when I first thought about it I thought that might be a carrot dangled in front of him to sign a new deal

No need to apologise, I just felt a bit of a Holly Wilaboobie making a bold (well boldish) prediction and not backing it up for 4 hours.

Anyways, I see Brock winning, but I don't nessecarily think that means we've seen the last of HHH.

WWE have gone to great lengths to justify the disaperances of their ever growing list of part time stars. Even if he wins this match HHH is unlikely to wrestle for at least the next 6 months, for that reason, I could see him retireing and focus on stuff backstage or even take over as the on-air authority figure.

He could use himself as a link between Lesnar and potential opponents, such as Sheamus and Ryback, putting over the next generation.

Eventually though I see HHH returning to the ring, I get the feeling this stipulation was only added to give some intrigue and maybe throw the 'smarks' many of whom can't fathom HHH retiring.

On top of that just a gut feeling, I certainally hope this will give me better odds on my accumulator come PPV time

I was thinking that HHH might be a guy who would only be retired on paper, he knows what the IWC thinks of him so him retiring then returning plays right into the hands of that, there would be mock outrage

I haven't seen Raw this week admittedly, but by the wording, HHH isn't retiring per-say as much as he is staking his career against Lesnar, much like Savage and Warrior, so therefore it is possible he could regain it or more likely win it back.

Triple H is going to struggle against Brock Lesnar, just as he did at Summeram. You have to remember Brock is a former UFC champion, so is no joke.

I really do not like Lesnar, as he goes around thinking he's a real big shot, but I struggle to see Triple H beating him. If Lesnar locks in that arm lock again then Triple H is gonna be in big trouble, and could end up with another broken arm.

You have to admire Triple H's bravery, but is it a wise move to be taking on a man like Lesnar again?

I hope I'm wrong, but I can see Lesnar giving Triple H annother severe beating, and ending his career!

DDT wrote:Triple H is going to struggle against Brock Lesnar, just as he did at Summeram. You have to remember Brock is a former UFC champion, so is no joke.

I really do not like Lesnar, as he goes around thinking he's a real big shot, but I struggle to see Triple H beating him. If Lesnar locks in that arm lock again then Triple H is gonna be in big trouble, and could end up with another broken arm.

You have to admire Triple H's bravery, but is it a wise move to be taking on a man like Lesnar again?

I hope I'm wrong, but I can see Lesnar giving Triple H annother severe beating, and ending his career!

It's still real to him dammit!!!!!

BD21 wrote:

DDT wrote:Triple H is going to struggle against Brock Lesnar, just as he did at Summeram. You have to remember Brock is a former UFC champion, so is no joke.

I really do not like Lesnar, as he goes around thinking he's a real big shot, but I struggle to see Triple H beating him. If Lesnar locks in that arm lock again then Triple H is gonna be in big trouble, and could end up with another broken arm.

You have to admire Triple H's bravery, but is it a wise move to be taking on a man like Lesnar again?

I hope I'm wrong, but I can see Lesnar giving Triple H annother severe beating, and ending his career!

It's still real to him dammit!!!!!

You beat me to it!

It’s a hard one to call. HHH knows what’s good for business, and I believe the WWE is in safe hands with him, and good business would be Brock Lesnar winning. A win at Mania will do more for Lesnar than it would for HHH bearing in mind that Lesnar will likely be more active over the year than HHH. On the other hand HHH’s Mania record is awful and if Lesnar beats him that’s 3 Mania defeats in a row, will HHH’s ego get the better of him and will he want that feel good moment? Do they believe that a loss won’t massively harm Lesnar’s stock? Personally I think Lesnar needs to look as strong as possible and he should go over, but if I was a betting man I’d put money on HHH getting the win.

I agree that if HHH does lose it wont be the last time we see him wrestle. He’s going to wrestle at Wrestlemania XXX, you can take that to the bank. I’d love to see HHH vs Shawn Michaels at Wrestlemania XXX. I’d have HHH appear on the Road to Mania next year talking about how he still has the itch. This would bring out Michaels who’d slate HHH for not being to just let it go and that he should find peace like he did. HHH would tell Shawn its in his blood and he isn’t a quitter like Shawn. We’d see a lot of tension between them and HHH would tell Shawn he cant accept that HHH is better than him. They’d refer to the matches with Taker and how neither of them could get it done. HHH would say to Shawn ‘why not find out who is the better man’ and challenges him to 1 last match at Mania 30. HHH says he put his career on the line last year against Lesnar and he’ll do it again, if Shawn beats him he’ll walk away for good and he’ll find peace. Shawn says ‘you’re on’. The match is made and HBK v HHH at Wrestlemania 30 is on. Shawn would win and would be a fitting end to HHH’s career.

if HHH loses to Lesnar at Mania then that's 4 big losses in a row and three consecutive Manias running. HHH is turning into a high level Jericho at this rate.