Alvarado vs Rios 2

by mobilemaster8 Wed 27 Mar 2013, 2:18 pm

Guys,

Could someone please tell me what channel this is on in the UK?

Surely we have picked it up with it being a contender for FOTY in 2012??

Any help would be appreciated as its not appearing on Sky Sports, ESPN, Channel 5, Boxnation (not bothered), Primetime, Wealth TV etc etc!!

Help??

by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Wed 27 Mar 2013, 2:23 pm

It's not and its a shame, the first fight wasn't picked up either

The results may not be alot different but its going to be guaranteed excitement while it lasts

BoxNation didn't announce Braldey-Provodnikov untill late so here's hoping

Its a bit bizarre as they haven't picked up the Golovkin card either or have a domestic card so BN are literally showing no boxing this weekend

by mobilemaster8 Wed 27 Mar 2013, 2:29 pm

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:It's not and its a shame, the first fight wasn't picked up either

The results may not be alot different but its going to be guaranteed excitement while it lasts

BoxNation didn't announce Braldey-Provodnikov untill late so here's hoping

Its a bit bizarre as they haven't picked up the Golovkin card either or have a domestic card so BN are literally showing no boxing this weekend

£10 a month well spent Frank Warren!

A world title fight with a hard punching machine in Golovkin and a tear up between Rios and Alvarado?!

I know Sky are picking up a couple of decent fights, but nothing on this scale!

For a supposed "boxing channel" to not pick up any just shows its current state of affairs if feel!

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Wed 27 Mar 2013, 3:55 pm

to be honest I dont think it will be as good as the first fight.

Can see Alvarado on his bike trying to nick a decision. And theres no reason why he can't do it as he showed he was the better boxer of the 2 in the 1st fight.

My prediction is, IF Alvarado DOES box smart, he will get shafted on the cards, Rios will verbally attack Dan Rafael etc for being fat journalists who know nothing about boxing as they have never fought, blah blah blah.

by **JJJohnson** Wed 27 Mar 2013, 7:59 pm

Boxnation are showing this fight on Saturday night.

by **ShahenshahG** Wed 27 Mar 2013, 8:31 pm

http://www.boxnation.com/boxing-matches/brandon-rios-v-mike-alvarado-ii/

by BoxingFan88 Wed 27 Mar 2013, 8:46 pm

Absolutely over the moon about this! It will again be an absolute stormer, well done boxnation!!!!!

by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Wed 27 Mar 2013, 9:06 pm

Result, its may not be as good as the first as Alvarado will want to box more but they are better going forward and its in their nature so I doubt that it won't be a barnstormer

Hopefully they can get the GGG card as its on before this fight as its in Monaco

Good move from boxnation, waiting for Donaire-Rigo and Trout-Canelo now

by **ShahenshahG** Wed 27 Mar 2013, 9:14 pm

if GGG is sauerland then they'll probably cover it.

by WelshDevilRob Thu 28 Mar 2013, 2:14 pm

Loved the first fight and this one could be just as good. Alvarado will try and box more but he tried and failed last time. Rios just drags you into a War.

This is worth staying up for.

by AlexHuckerby Thu 28 Mar 2013, 2:32 pm

Is this next Saturday?

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Thu 28 Mar 2013, 2:36 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:Is this next Saturday?

Yes

by AlexHuckerby Thu 28 Mar 2013, 2:36 pm

by AlexHuckerby Thu 28 Mar 2013, 2:42 pm

Need to get my laptop fixed ASAP, mind.

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Thu 28 Mar 2013, 2:54 pm

What ever for Alex??

You wouldn't be suggesting that you are going to watch this fight by methods other than a paid subscription to the 606v2 OverLord....Frank Warren??

by AlexHuckerby Thu 28 Mar 2013, 2:55 pm

Ha, erm, no for completely unrelated reasons of course. Need to... Send an E-Mail.

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Thu 28 Mar 2013, 2:58 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:Ha, erm, no for completely unrelated reasons of course. Need to... Send an E-Mail.

Errrmmm yea....I.....errrmmm....also need to ......uuuhhhh....send the....errrmmm email that night

by **hampo17** Thu 28 Mar 2013, 3:10 pm

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:Result, its may not be as good as the first as Alvarado will want to box more but they are better going forward and its in their nature so I doubt that it won't be a barnstormer

Hopefully they can get the GGG card as its on before this fight as its in Monaco

Good move from boxnation, waiting for Donaire-Rigo and Trout-Canelo now

They have "World Title Boxing" on the sky schedule but no information so I would suggest this would be the GGG fight?

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Thu 28 Mar 2013, 3:14 pm

Sky showed GGG before didn't they?

Against the guy who Kerry Hope beat? (name escapes me)

by **hampo17** Thu 28 Mar 2013, 3:15 pm

Proska

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Thu 28 Mar 2013, 3:17 pm

Yea thats him. Sky showed that fight so maybe they are going to follow Golovkin's fights a bit.

by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Thu 28 Mar 2013, 4:19 pm

Proska is a matchroom fighter hence why they picked it up

BoxNation picked up GGG against Rosado, fuchigami and Simon

I saw the world title boxing from 7-11pm and given Monaco is probably only an hour difference it doesn't seem impossible to think that is the GGG card but you would have thought that it would have been on the website

by Gerry SA Fri 29 Mar 2013, 8:09 pm

As much as I like Mike Alvarado, he's gonna get KO's by Bam Bam Rios again.

Alvarado doesn't have fitness to avoid Rios for 12 rounds.

Eventually Rios will tag Alvarado and its lights out.

As the first fight showed, Alvarado's best shots didn't hurt Rios. But every time Rios landed his power shots, Alvarado was hurt.

I've got Bam Bam to win by KO inside 5 rounds.

by AlexHuckerby Fri 29 Mar 2013, 8:36 pm

Think Alvarado might just be a little more durable than just lasting 5 rounds to be honest Gerry.

Have a feeling he'll put in a stronger performance than last time to be honest. At the same time, Rios might be even bigger having fought at that weight class, so you never know.

by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Fri 29 Mar 2013, 9:23 pm

If Alvarado can get to Rios' body early than it can get interesting as Rios struggled with Mile's work rate and looked fatigued untill he rocked him in the 6th whe he got a second wind

If he can't hurt rios early (head or body) than you can see them going at it untill Alvarado's chin is finally cracked like the first fight

Don't think it'll end quickly and its not a certainty rios wins as Alvarado had him buzze da couple times and was easily winning on the cards and rios has been hurt before by Acosta, Antillon and Ortega

by DaveVDK Fri 29 Mar 2013, 10:28 pm

If Alvarado sticks behind the jab (In which he has quite a good one) and doesn't get involved in a close up brawl then he can take a desiscion here

by BoxingFan88 Fri 29 Mar 2013, 10:37 pm

I think Rios is going to win again, I recently watched the fight back and Rios started landing the over hand right at will after around the 5th round. Its still going to be a cracking scrap though.

I don't really think Alvarado did anything wrong in the last fight he just got caught with a peach of a right hand. I think Rios will land that punch again.

by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Fri 29 Mar 2013, 10:43 pm

Btw has anyone seen the pre-fight pictures of rios, he is looking horribly gaunt just like he did at 135. If he hasn't cut the weight off well than he may not have the gas to stand up to the kind of punishment he withstood in the first fight

Weigh in should be soon so it'll be interesting to see how he looks

by **hampo17** Sat 30 Mar 2013, 9:22 am

Quite a good breakdown from boxingscene about this fight.

Article Link - http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&opt=printable&id=63873#ixzz2P0skm5py
This is a legal waiver. By copying and using the material from this article, you agree to give full credit to BoxingScene.com or provide a link to the original article.

This era is lucky to have Brandon Rios. Brandon Rios is unlucky to fight in this era.

A month shy of 27, Rios fought only twice last year and may settle at that total again this year. For a fighter with his style, the window to make his mark is narrower in terms of time. There is only so much of it to see him against as many of the top lights of his day as possible while he can bring the A-game he possesses now.

But, hey, we get two in a row with Alvarado. It’s a hell of a bird in the hand.

Let’s go to the report cards.

The Ledgers

Brandon Rios
Age: 26
Titles/Previous Titles: WBA Lightweight (2012, 1 Defense)
Height: 5’8
Weight: 140 lbs.
Hails from: Oxnard, California
Record: 31-0-1, 23 KO
Rankings: #4 (BoxRec, SecondsOut); #5 (Transnational Boxing Rankings Board, BoxingScene) #6 (ESPN, Ring)
Current/Former World Champions/Titlists Faced: 2 (Miguel Acosta TKO10; Richar Abril SD12)

Vs.

Mike Alvarado
Age: 32
Titles/Previous Titles: None
Height: 5’9
Weight: 140
Hails from: Denver, Colorado
Record: 33-1, 23 KO, 1 KOBY 
Rankings: #7 (SecondsOut, ESPN); #8 (TBRB, BoxingScene, Ring); #9 (BoxRec)
Current/Former World Champions/Titlists Faced: 2 (Cesar Bazan KO4; Brandon Rios TKO7)

Grades

Pre-Fight: Speed – Rios B; Alvarado B
Pre-Fight: Power – Rios A; Alvarado B+
Pre-Fight: Defense – Rios C; Alvarado B-
Pre-Fight: Intangibles – Rios A; Alvarado A

Anyone reading here probably saw the first fight. Why would anyone expect much different this time? Mike Alvarado knows he needs to box more. Rios has the advantage inside. The problem is that Alvarado, even boxing well, will be hit.

And when he gets hit, he fights. Rios hits hard and makes it impossible not to send the mind searching for instinct. That both of these guys resort to instinct is why the sequel is almost as anticipated as the original. Chances are, we saw the best version of this one last time.

There are some who feel it may have been stopped a smidge early. If they were right, it could play out here. Alvarado was in stark trouble when the first fight was waved off, but as many have pointed out he wasn’t in the same trouble Timothy Bradley appeared to be in multiple times two weeks ago versus Ruslan Provodnikov. This time, the sentiment lingering from the first fight could buy extra time in a pinch.

That might set the stage for the sort of escalation the first fight was building towards. Very few fights have the sort of crescendo a Corrales-Castillo or Gatti-Ward do. Rios-Alvarado I almost got there last time. It’s not impossible it could happen this time around. Fight fans can recall, in recent vintage, the turnaround of fortunes in the first Israel Vazquez and Rafael Marquez from first to second fights as a point of hope.

Typically though, rematches of brutal brawls go the same way the second time and often shorter. Alvarado is 32 and makes for rugged fights regularly. He picked up a lot of miles the first time around and didn’t get any younger.

The stakes are certainly high, but if we get another good fight the loser may not be punished too harshly. The winner could be in line for Bradley, Manny Pacquiao, or Juan Manuel Marquez depending on how things go. The loser may end up with one of them too, or Provodnikov. While this fight is at 140 lbs., chances are both men will be Welterweights sooner than later. Almost all of the Jr. Welterweight division is controlled by Golden Boy Promotions.

Rios and Alvarado are with Top Rank. Their fortunes will be made at 147 lbs. after this Saturday.

The Pick

‪Rios is going to win again. It might happen faster this time, and for the same reasons present in the first. Rios is the more natural, fluid fighter. Both get hit too much, but Rios has that rare knack for being able to take two and give one until the count turns to his favor, wearing down other men through blunt force. He won't last forever that way, but while his prime endures he'll be a handful for anyone and too much for "Mile High" Mike.” The pick is Rios by stoppage; let’s say six again.

This is definately a fight I'm looking forward to, Rios is always exciting to watch. If Matthyse beats Peterson I'd like to see Rios and Matthyse fight, too big power punchers so it'd make for explosive action.

by AlexHuckerby Sat 30 Mar 2013, 11:07 am

hampo171 wrote:Quite a good breakdown from boxingscene about this fight.

Article Link - http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&opt=printable&id=63873#ixzz2P0skm5py
This is a legal waiver. By copying and using the material from this article, you agree to give full credit to BoxingScene.com or provide a link to the original article.

This era is lucky to have Brandon Rios. Brandon Rios is unlucky to fight in this era.

A month shy of 27, Rios fought only twice last year and may settle at that total again this year. For a fighter with his style, the window to make his mark is narrower in terms of time. There is only so much of it to see him against as many of the top lights of his day as possible while he can bring the A-game he possesses now.

But, hey, we get two in a row with Alvarado. It’s a hell of a bird in the hand.

Let’s go to the report cards.

The Ledgers

Brandon Rios
Age: 26
Titles/Previous Titles: WBA Lightweight (2012, 1 Defense)
Height: 5’8
Weight: 140 lbs.
Hails from: Oxnard, California
Record: 31-0-1, 23 KO
Rankings: #4 (BoxRec, SecondsOut); #5 (Transnational Boxing Rankings Board, BoxingScene) #6 (ESPN, Ring)
Current/Former World Champions/Titlists Faced: 2 (Miguel Acosta TKO10; Richar Abril SD12)

Vs.

Mike Alvarado
Age: 32
Titles/Previous Titles: None
Height: 5’9
Weight: 140
Hails from: Denver, Colorado
Record: 33-1, 23 KO, 1 KOBY 
Rankings: #7 (SecondsOut, ESPN); #8 (TBRB, BoxingScene, Ring); #9 (BoxRec)
Current/Former World Champions/Titlists Faced: 2 (Cesar Bazan KO4; Brandon Rios TKO7)

Grades

Pre-Fight: Speed – Rios B; Alvarado B
Pre-Fight: Power – Rios A; Alvarado B+
Pre-Fight: Defense – Rios C; Alvarado B-
Pre-Fight: Intangibles – Rios A; Alvarado A

Anyone reading here probably saw the first fight. Why would anyone expect much different this time? Mike Alvarado knows he needs to box more. Rios has the advantage inside. The problem is that Alvarado, even boxing well, will be hit.

And when he gets hit, he fights. Rios hits hard and makes it impossible not to send the mind searching for instinct. That both of these guys resort to instinct is why the sequel is almost as anticipated as the original. Chances are, we saw the best version of this one last time.

There are some who feel it may have been stopped a smidge early. If they were right, it could play out here. Alvarado was in stark trouble when the first fight was waved off, but as many have pointed out he wasn’t in the same trouble Timothy Bradley appeared to be in multiple times two weeks ago versus Ruslan Provodnikov. This time, the sentiment lingering from the first fight could buy extra time in a pinch.

That might set the stage for the sort of escalation the first fight was building towards. Very few fights have the sort of crescendo a Corrales-Castillo or Gatti-Ward do. Rios-Alvarado I almost got there last time. It’s not impossible it could happen this time around. Fight fans can recall, in recent vintage, the turnaround of fortunes in the first Israel Vazquez and Rafael Marquez from first to second fights as a point of hope.

Typically though, rematches of brutal brawls go the same way the second time and often shorter. Alvarado is 32 and makes for rugged fights regularly. He picked up a lot of miles the first time around and didn’t get any younger.

The stakes are certainly high, but if we get another good fight the loser may not be punished too harshly. The winner could be in line for Bradley, Manny Pacquiao, or Juan Manuel Marquez depending on how things go. The loser may end up with one of them too, or Provodnikov. While this fight is at 140 lbs., chances are both men will be Welterweights sooner than later. Almost all of the Jr. Welterweight division is controlled by Golden Boy Promotions.

Rios and Alvarado are with Top Rank. Their fortunes will be made at 147 lbs. after this Saturday.

The Pick

‪Rios is going to win again. It might happen faster this time, and for the same reasons present in the first. Rios is the more natural, fluid fighter. Both get hit too much, but Rios has that rare knack for being able to take two and give one until the count turns to his favor, wearing down other men through blunt force. He won't last forever that way, but while his prime endures he'll be a handful for anyone and too much for "Mile High" Mike.” The pick is Rios by stoppage; let’s say six again.

This is definately a fight I'm looking forward to, Rios is always exciting to watch. If Matthyse beats Peterson I'd like to see Rios and Matthyse fight, too big power punchers so it'd make for explosive action.

Can't happen I'm afraid.

by **hampo17** Sat 30 Mar 2013, 11:08 am

I can always hope though Alex.

by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 30 Mar 2013, 11:10 am

Always easier second time around guys!!

by Imperial Ghosty Sat 30 Mar 2013, 11:33 am

Rios knows Alvarado can't hurt him so is just going to relentlessly walk him down, an earlier easier knockout this time around.

by **Seanusarrilius** Sat 30 Mar 2013, 1:47 pm

I got twenty on Rios rounds 5-8 KO - can't wait for tonights card. GGG should be good and Rios v Alvarado can only be entertaining in my mind. I hope Alvarado has learned to clinch for his sake.

by eddyfightfan Sat 30 Mar 2013, 1:51 pm

hampo171 wrote:I can always hope though Alex.

lets be honest the worst possible outcome would be alvardo vs peteson, which isn't a bad fight in itself.

by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sat 30 Mar 2013, 5:18 pm

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Rios knows Alvarado can't hurt him so is just going to relentlessly walk him down, an earlier easier knockout this time around.

Rios has a good chin on him but Alvarado definately got to him in the first fight despite Rios' constant aggression. He snapped brandons head enough and made his legs go stiff enough to suggest that he has the ability to get Brandon

Acosta hurt him bad in the 3rd or 4th of their fight and Antillon buzzed him at the end of the second round so its not like he's invincible

If he keeps absorbing these types if shots it only needs one huge shot to catch him right for his punch resistance to finally cave in

by **Seanusarrilius** Sat 30 Mar 2013, 6:09 pm

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:
Imperial Ghosty wrote:Rios knows Alvarado can't hurt him so is just going to relentlessly walk him down, an earlier easier knockout this time around.

Rios has a good chin on him but Alvarado definately got to him in the first fight despite Rios' constant aggression. He snapped brandons head enough and made his legs go stiff enough to suggest that he has the ability to get Brandon

Acosta hurt him bad in the 3rd or 4th of their fight and Antillon buzzed him at the end of the second round so its not like he's invincible

If he keeps absorbing these types if shots it only needs one huge shot to catch him right for his punch resistance to finally cave in

Totally agree. I think Rios will have a very short prime due to the shots he eats and his aggresive warrior style. But I don't think it will be tonight.

by Imperial Ghosty Sat 30 Mar 2013, 6:21 pm

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:
Imperial Ghosty wrote:Rios knows Alvarado can't hurt him so is just going to relentlessly walk him down, an earlier easier knockout this time around.

Rios has a good chin on him but Alvarado definately got to him in the first fight despite Rios' constant aggression. He snapped brandons head enough and made his legs go stiff enough to suggest that he has the ability to get Brandon

Acosta hurt him bad in the 3rd or 4th of their fight and Antillon buzzed him at the end of the second round so its not like he's invincible

If he keeps absorbing these types if shots it only needs one huge shot to catch him right for his punch resistance to finally cave in

That's not going to be the mindset of Rios though is it and sometimes it takes a good few years for a chin to finally crack, it sometimes happens overnight but the more durable stay durable for longer.

by Gerry SA Sat 30 Mar 2013, 8:01 pm

Rios' conditioning coach has said Bam Bam is in the best shape of his career heading into this fight.

Alvarado's fitness isn't as good as Rios'.

If the fight goes passed 8 rounds, then Bam Bam will bring the house down and get the KO.

I still maintain that Rios will batter Alvarado and win inside 5.

If Alvarado had the power of Matthysse or Maidana, then he might knock Rios down, but he doesn't. Rios will get that right hand eventually to land on Mike's chin.

by bellchees Sun 31 Mar 2013, 4:36 am

These two continuing from where they finished last time.

by Adam D Sun 31 Mar 2013, 10:11 am

amazing fight for the 10 rounds that my skybox recorded it for.

I had it closer than the commentators did and looking at the results, I was right. The commentators were scoring it a virtual shutout to Alvarado

by **hampo17** Sun 31 Mar 2013, 10:26 am

Same as you Adam my box only recorded 10 rounds, but what a 10 rounds it was. Really couldn't take your eyes off it. Both guys hurt at different points, I didn't think Rios had the same power in his punches the longer the fight went on.

by azania Sun 31 Mar 2013, 10:28 am

Who won?

by **hampo17** Sun 31 Mar 2013, 10:34 am

Spoiler:

by azania Sun 31 Mar 2013, 10:35 am

Cheers.

by vulva equinox Sun 31 Mar 2013, 10:47 am

Gerry SA wrote:Rios' conditioning coach has said Bam Bam is in the best shape of his career heading into this fight.

Alvarado's fitness isn't as good as Rios'.

If the fight goes passed 8 rounds, then Bam Bam will bring the house down and get the KO.

I still maintain that Rios will batter Alvarado and win inside 5.

If Alvarado had the power of Matthysse or Maidana, then he might knock Rios down, but he doesn't. Rios will get that right hand eventually to land on Mike's chin.

by **ShahenshahG** Sun 31 Mar 2013, 10:49 am

by azania Sun 31 Mar 2013, 11:14 am

It's easy to laugh at someone's predictions especially when never offering one of your own.

by vulva equinox Sun 31 Mar 2013, 11:15 am

azania wrote:It's easy to laugh at someone's predictions especially when never offering one of your own.

by azania Sun 31 Mar 2013, 11:16 am

Well done coxy.

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