Team Fergie

by Trebs Mon 19 Aug 2013, 11:59 am

TREBS
Cherries
Hero
Gregers
Nando
Marky

You have to pick a 23-man squad that would compete in the English Premier League.

To select your squad, I will allow you to pick one player from each Premier League team, plus 3 players from another English league (any of the Championship, League One or League Two).

To clarify, you may select just one player from each team for your squad.

by Trebs Mon 19 Aug 2013, 12:02 pm

Alright guys, here's what I want. We need to work out who the best players are from each team, so let's go through all the teams, find the quality and then we can build a squad from there. I'm around today and tomorrow, then will be on mobile only till Sunday so let's get as much as possible done now.

Arsenal
Aston Villa
Cardiff City
Chelsea
Crystal Palace
Everton
Fulham
Hull City
Liverpool
Manchester City
Manchester United
Newcastle United
Norwich City
Southampton
Stoke City
Sunderland
Swansea City
Tottenham Hotspur
West Bromwich Albion
West Ham United
Lower Leagues

by Fernando Mon 19 Aug 2013, 12:03 pm

Can i suggest using 2 of the 3 outside of PL as GK's like Julio Cesar/Kasper Schmeichel & Have a spare midfield/forward in McCarthy or Austin, Could also look at more players with PL experience.

by Trebs Mon 19 Aug 2013, 12:07 pm

I like that idea Nando, I definitely want some young talent in the side, thinking of Calum McManaman and Will Hughes. But we don't know where the holes are in the squad. I would prefer to go through all the teams first and find their best players, get a strong XI sorted first.

by Fernando Mon 19 Aug 2013, 12:13 pm

onlytreblewinners wrote:Alright guys, here's what I want. We need to work out who the best players are from each team, so let's go through all the teams, find the quality and then we can build a squad from there. I'm around today and tomorrow, then will be on mobile only till Sunday so let's get as much as possible done now.

Arsenal - Cazorla/Koscielny/Wilshere/Walcott
Aston Villa - Guzan/Weimann/Benteke/Agbonlahor/Westwood
Cardiff City - Bellamy/Caulker/Medel/
Chelsea - Mata/Lampard/Luiz/Hazard/Ivanovic/
Crystal Palace - Jedinek/Chamakh/Williams
Everton - Fellaini/Baines/Mirallas/Barkley/Pienaar/Osman
Fulham - Berbatov/Taarabt/Hangeland/Amorebieta
Hull City - Koren/Brady/Aluko/McGregor/Davies/Figuroa/Graham/Huddlestone.
Liverpool - Suarez/Gerrard/Coutinho/Willian (If Joins)/ Agger/Enrique
Manchester City - Kompany/Hart/Zabaleta/Fernandinho/Silva/Aguero/Dzeko
Manchester United - RVP/Rooney/Vidic/De Gea/Kagawa
Newcastle United - Ben Arfa/Krul/Coloccini/Remy/Cabaye
Norwich City - RVW/Snodgrass/Redmond/Fer
Southampton - Osvaldo/Wanyama/Lambert/Shaw/Schenderlin?
Stoke City - Begovic/Adam/Huth
Sunderland - Sessegnon/Giaccerini?/Johnson/Fletcher
Swansea City -Michu/De Guzman/Pablo/Dyer/Williams/Vorm
Tottenham Hotspur - Bale/Soldado/Dembele/Paulinho/Vertonghen/Walker
West Bromwich Albion - Anelka/Long/Foster/Olsson/Yacob/
West Ham United - Carroll/Nolan/Jarvis/Noble/Tomkins/Downing/Cole/Diame/Rat
Lower Leagues - Julio Cesar - QPR, Mcmannaman - Wigan, Jose Ulloa - Brighton

by Trebs Mon 19 Aug 2013, 12:16 pm

Nice one, I'm in the middle of mine now

Thinking Van Persie and Bale are must haves.

by Fernando Mon 19 Aug 2013, 12:19 pm

Could be a difficult to do this as if you do all attack up from then your going to weak at the back, might be worth saying

Arsenal/Citeh/Liverpool - Back 4+ Midfield
Spurs/Man Utd/Chelsea - Midfield + Forward.

Are we going to differ from the standard 4-2-3-1?

by Fernando Mon 19 Aug 2013, 12:42 pm

personally my XI would look something like this

1st XI:

by Gregers Mon 19 Aug 2013, 1:20 pm

Sorry wont be on much but the 1st XI as I see it:

Mignolet
Coleman - Kompany - Williams - Shaw
Diamé
Cazorla - Mata - Bale
RVP - Benteke

Liverpool/Everton/Citeh/Swansea/Southampton/West Ham/Arsenal/Chelsea/Spurs/United/Villa

by Trebs Mon 19 Aug 2013, 2:28 pm

4-2-3-1 is how we have to be playing it I think.

I would prefer Baines and Clyne as full backs in your idea Gregers, and it's too attacking.
I'm close to something, will post soon...

by Trebs Mon 19 Aug 2013, 2:34 pm

Arsenal - Wilshere, Walcott, Cazorla
Aston Villa - Benteke, Vlaar
Cardiff City - Medel, Caulker
Chelsea - Mata, Luiz, Cech, Ivanovic *
Crystal Palace - Campana (Young Spanish CM, think he's the best option)
Everton - Baines, Fellaini
Fulham - Hangeland, Ruiz, Berbatov
Hull City - Figueroa (experienced versatile defender good for backup)
Liverpool - Suarez, Gerrard
Manchester City - Kompany, Toure, Silva, *
Manchester United - Van Persie
Newcastle United - Ben Arfa, Cabaye
Norwich City - Snodgrass
Southampton - Osvaldo, Clyne, Shaw
Stoke City - Shawcross, Begovic
Sunderland - Giaccharini, Johnson
Swansea City - Michu, Bony
Tottenham Hotspur - Bale
West Bromwich Albion - Mulumbu, Yacob, Long, Morrison
West Ham United - Andy Carroll
Lower Leagues - McManaman, Hughes, Al Habsi, Cesar, Ramis, Barton, Maloney, Hanley

*I'm thinking Chelsea and City have a lot of players we could pick so they would be good to use to fill wherever the weakest point in our starting XI is.

Julio Cesar
Ivanovic Kompany Shawcross Baines
Wilshere Medel
Ben Arfa Suarez Bale
Van Persie

GK - Julio Cesar
GK - Ali Al Habsi
RB - Ivanovic
RB - Clyne
CB - Kompany
CB - Shawcross
CB - Hanley
CB - Hangeland/Ruiz
LB - Figueroa
LB - Baines
CM - Medel
CM - Mulumbu
CM - Wilshere
CM - Campana
WG - Johnson
WG - Bale
WG - Ben Arfa
WG - Snodgrass
AM - Michu
AM - Suarez
ST - Carroll
ST - Van Persie
ST - Benteke

by Trebs Mon 19 Aug 2013, 2:36 pm

Nando I deliberately chose Kompany and Ivanovic in defense as you said, and Wilshere over Cazorla/Walcott.

Suarez, Bale, RVP are must haves. There's just nobody at those clubs who are anywhere near as good. Unless anyone rates Cleverley as highly as I do Whistle

by Fernando Mon 19 Aug 2013, 3:00 pm

Personally id swap Al Habsi for Speroni & Campana for James McCarthy. Also seems a bit light in the centre of midfield.

by Trebs Mon 19 Aug 2013, 3:03 pm

Yes I agree with that Nando.
What about taking out Ben Arfa for Cabaye in a straight swap? Cope with three wingers?

by Fernando Mon 19 Aug 2013, 3:07 pm

Could do, If did that you could probably swap Medel for Caulker & go for Ruiz/Taarabt instead of Hangeland tbh

by Trebs Mon 19 Aug 2013, 3:11 pm

Yep I actually had Caulker in mind then realised how weak CM was.

Julio Cesar
Ivanovic Shawcross Kompany Baines
Cabaye Wilshere
Johnson Suarez Bale
Van Persie

Happy with that XI? We can mess around with the rest of the squad as we go.

by Fernando Mon 19 Aug 2013, 3:15 pm

Yeah that's pretty good Cool

Capable of winning anyway.

by Fernando Mon 19 Aug 2013, 3:33 pm

Right so with the non commital reply from Azzy

id suggest, Tactics & why we picked them.

by Trebs Mon 19 Aug 2013, 3:37 pm

Okay yes I agree, maybe a line or two for each player. Since it's just us two I'll take the top half (GK + DEF) if you do the second half (MID + ST)

It'll have to be tomorrow though?

by Fernando Mon 19 Aug 2013, 3:38 pm

we've got a week Cool

by Fernando Mon 19 Aug 2013, 3:38 pm

might wanna settle on the squad before we start though

by Trebs Mon 19 Aug 2013, 3:41 pm

Okay, I have tomorrow free, then I'm away till Sunday. If we get the squad settled by the end of Tuesday, I'll finish up anything that needs doing Sunday night

by Marky Mon 19 Aug 2013, 3:43 pm

You seem pretty on top of things. I'm not going to be online much until Friday night, so let me know on here what you want me to do by the weekend and I'll get it done.

As the previous winner, I'm sure you'll accept my expertise Wink

by Fernando Mon 19 Aug 2013, 3:48 pm

Sure, that's fine. You want to do Tactics as mine are pretty sucky Very Happy

by Marky Mon 19 Aug 2013, 3:51 pm

I know

Can do. Finalise the squad and starting XI + formation + playing style and i'll rustle up some tactics over the weekend.

by Trebs Mon 19 Aug 2013, 4:02 pm

Marky, quick critique of the squad please? Any glaring weaknesses?
Same question to anyone else who is online.

And please can you write up the tactics that'd be great.

by Marky Mon 19 Aug 2013, 4:32 pm

Without cross referencing the squad you have chosen, my 23 would be;

GK: Julio Cesar (QPR)
GK: Kasper Schmeichel (Leicester City)
RB: Steven Whittaker (Norwich City)
RB: Billy Jones (West Bromwich Albion)
LB: Luke Shaw (Southampton)
LB: Leighton Baines (Everton)
CB: Vincent Kompany (Manchester City)
CB: Ashley Williams (Swansea)
CB: Fernando Amorebieta (Fulham)
CB: Marc Muniesa (Stoke City)
DM: Gary Medel (Cardiff)
DM: Mohamed Diame (West Ham)
CM: James McCarthy (Wigan Athletic)
CM: Yohan Cabaye (Newcastle United)
RW: Eden Hazard (Chelsea)
RW: Adam Johnson (Sunderland)
LW: Gareth Bale (Tottenham Hotspur)
LW: Robbie Brady (Hull City)
AM: Santi Cazorla (Arsenal)
AM: Jonathan Williams (Crystal Palace)
CF: Robin Van Persie (Manchester United)
CF: Christian Benteke (Aston Villa)
CF: Luis Suarez (Liverpool)

by Trebs Mon 19 Aug 2013, 5:11 pm

Fair enough, that's pretty different to what me and Nando came up with. I will have a think.

by Trebs Wed 21 Aug 2013, 7:59 am

In
Speroni
McCarthy
Cabaye
Caulker

Out
Ben Arfa
Campana
Al Habsi
Medel

The rest of the side is as I posted above, with the formation also shown.
Marky, please can you write a set of tactics and talk about playing style.
Nando, please can you put a line together for each player about why we've picked them.
Hero/Gregers/Cherries (if you show up) please assist where possible.

Please have it all up by Sunday midday so I can edit it and then I'll have it up the following day. I'll try to pop in when I can but I have a busy week.

Cheers guys

by Fernando Wed 21 Aug 2013, 12:13 pm

Squad:

by Trebs Sun 25 Aug 2013, 6:42 pm

Is anyone going to bother with this?

by Marky Sun 25 Aug 2013, 7:18 pm

I said over the weekend (which on a Bank Holiday weekend includes Monday), you're the one who changed it to Sunday midday...

If you want to take over what I was meant to do, go for it. Or leave it for me to finish in the timescale I originally said. Your call captain thumbsup

by Trebs Sun 25 Aug 2013, 7:23 pm

I think the weekend to most people means Saturday and Sunday.

I want to read it before it's posted. I'm not having stuff I've not approved going up, and if the deadline is tomorrow then it would be too late in any case. I'm asking if you can do the work tonight. As the deadline is tomorrow morning, it needs to be done

When can you have it done by?

by Fernando Sun 25 Aug 2013, 7:24 pm

I will get my bit done later on this evening also Trebs

Are we moving Ruiz to wingers or keep hangeland for Fulham don't see point in having 5 Cb's personally.

by Trebs Sun 25 Aug 2013, 7:26 pm

I'm debating swapping Carroll for Diame.

Ruiz is in, Hangeland out

Figueroa and Ivanovic can cover CB anyway so we're good there.

by Fernando Sun 25 Aug 2013, 7:31 pm

Could do we've got 4 forwards anyway in Suarez/RVP/Michu/Benteke

Plus the midfield probably needs a battler like Diame.

by Trebs Sun 25 Aug 2013, 7:34 pm

STARTING XI

Cesar
Ivanovic Kompany Shawcross Baines
Cabaye Wilshere
Johnson Suarez Bale
Van Persie

BACK UP XI

Speroni
Clyne Hanley Caulker Figueroa
Diame McCarthy
Snodgrass Michu Ruiz
Benteke

(+ Mulumbu)

Okay, I'm happy to drop Carroll. We have four players who are capable of leading the line in any case, even Ruiz in emergencies.

by Fernando Sun 25 Aug 2013, 7:53 pm

ive sent you a PM hopefully that's alright Cool

by Trebs Sun 25 Aug 2013, 8:00 pm

by cherriesfna Sun 25 Aug 2013, 8:06 pm

Sorry lads, what my task for this team

by cherriesfna Sun 25 Aug 2013, 8:08 pm

Lol bit late been without device for week and been out all weekend, ill volunteer for vote off so you all carry on if loose

by Trebs Sun 25 Aug 2013, 8:37 pm

Marky, can you do tactics or not?
If not cherries if you could write a set of tactics please for the Starting XI?

by Marky Mon 26 Aug 2013, 9:02 am

onlytreblewinners wrote:I think the weekend to most people means Saturday and Sunday.

I want to read it before it's posted. I'm not having stuff I've not approved going up, and if the deadline is tomorrow then it would be too late in any case. I'm asking if you can do the work tonight. As the deadline is tomorrow morning, it needs to be done

When can you have it done by?

By the end of the Bank Holiday Weekend. Like I said.

Deadline (as Azzy realised his mistake) is Tuesday, if not Wednesday. If you want to read it before it's posted and you can't wait, write it yourself, or stop being power mad. Use your head. Stop panicking etc.

by Marky Mon 26 Aug 2013, 9:03 am

I would also suggest we're stronger going forward, by swapping Adam Johnson and Ivanovic for Phil Bardsley and Juan Mata/Eden Hazard.

by Trebs Mon 26 Aug 2013, 9:27 am

I'd be an awful PM if allowed parts of the submission to be done without overseeing it. Azzy has changed it now but previously gave no indication that he would.

I want a side with decent players defensively as well, and I think we have more than enough quality in attack with Bale, Suarez, RVP. If i fall onto the sword for that, so be it.

by cherriesfna Mon 26 Aug 2013, 8:28 pm

Do you need me to write come tactics or is marky doing it

by Marky Mon 26 Aug 2013, 9:43 pm

I'm yet to start, so i'll leave it to you

by Trebs Tue 27 Aug 2013, 1:01 am

Thank you cherries, that's a massive help.

by cherriesfna Tue 27 Aug 2013, 1:53 am

Righty ill get some up soon, what is the deadline?

by cherriesfna Tue 27 Aug 2013, 2:19 am

Btw guys, what is the line up I have to do it for

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