Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread

[Dolphin Ziggler]

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Man City 3 Hull 0
Cardiff 1 Everton 2
Newcastle 1 Fulham 1
Norwich 1 S'oton 2
West Ham 1 Stoke 0
C Palace 1 Sunderland 2

Liverpool 1 man Utd 2
West Brom 1 Swansea 1
Arsenal 3 Spurs 2

[GSC]

It'll be City-Hull up first

[Guest]

Some of these pundits baffle me. Kevin Kilbane has now dismissed City (after initially backing them last month) from winning the title after 3 games because they've flattered to deceive so far.

The same Kevin Kilbane that lauded Man Utd last season for grinding out results and getting points when not playing well.

Yes, makes sense doesn't it.

[Ent]

You expect to see something from a team with a new manager and £70 millions worth of new players.

All about context.

[Ent]

Also sky need to sort out the camera positions at selhirst park- it's like watching a non league game.

[GSC]

Love Billy.

Billy Davies asked about Sako being left out by Wolves: 'Bale did not play for Spurs either'. Is there progress with him? 'No comment'.

[Duty281]

MOTD looks like it'll be dull tonight. 6 goals (thus far) in 6 games. Not even Lineker's charming smile will be able to save the day.

[Ent]

The pl is very quickly becoming a brutal league.

Nowadays you get the mid table teams best players warming the top clubs benchs due to the huge squads in the modern game.

Not good for the league imo.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Time for Fletcher. Great striker

[Ent]

Terrible hair mind.

[NickisBHAFC]

FLETCHER!!!!! GET IN!!!

Palace (Scum) 1-1 Sunderland.

[Ent]

O'shea has made a balls of that anyway.

[Ent]

Red card? Unbelievable...

[Hero]

Last man, no choice on it really.

[Ent]

Well terrible goalkeeping there...

[Ent]

Last man, no choice on it really.

Could have just booked him, was a 50/50 on a bouncing ball.

It's a stupid rule when implemented properly.

[The Special Juan]

He might be the greatest "Jack of all trades" in football but that was about as stonewall as red cards come.

[Hero]

I personally agree it shouldn't have been a red btw but I fully understand why it was.
And that was easier to save the penalty than somehow avoid it, was like he was trying to make a shape for playing Hole in the Wall.

[Hero]

When it's a clear cynical tackle to stop a certain goal then it should be a red. When it's just a clumsy tackle like that a yellow and the penalty should be sufficient.

[Ent]

I don't think it was a red, there's something about deliberately preventing a goal scoring opportunity in the rules that people take to mean last man back.

End of the day it was 50/50, would understand if he just hacked him down on purpose but he was trying to win the ball.

Rule needs rewritten anyway, it's stupid.

[Hero]

The problem is that then it leaves it to the referee to make the call on if he thinks its deliberate or not rather than letting the ref fall back on just a black and white rule of last man.

[Ent]

When it's a clear cynical tackle to stop a certain goal then it should be a red. When it's just a clumsy tackle like that a yellow and the penalty should be sufficient.

I agree, id send people off for hacking people down on the half way line to stop a counter attack etc

The last man thing just annoys me as I don't recall ever seeing it in the rules - been a few years since I read them mind.

[Ent]

Last man isn't black and white either, plenty of fouls challenging for headers etc and te issue with how wide the opponent is etc

[mystiroakey]

 

[Ent]

Good finish that.

Palace been very good tonight, puncheon motm for me.

[The Special Juan]

I see where you're coming from Hero but the "last man, off" rule is pretty easy to ref.

Oh, I see you've written something similar now.

[Hero]

Cracking finish for that third goal.

[Ent]

I see where you're coming from Hero but the "last man, off" rule is pretty easy to ref.

Oh, I see you've written something similar now.

Also easy to ref that last man = yellow.

Just cos its easy doesn't mean it's right.

[Hero]

Shame it wasn't a game where the managers could have had a bust up, Di Canio and Holloway would have been hilarious.

[Guest]

Sunderland have a pretty tricky next 5 games including ties with Arsenal, Man Utd and Liverpool. How long before Di Canio comes under pressure?

I can see them seriously struggling this season.

[Guest]

Di Canio won't last, those are some horrifying fixtures coming up. Sunderland team just looks a mis-mash of bad quality players. Celustka, Diakite, Ji, Wickham are just not good enough and the bench is woeful. I know Newcastle didn't look great either before today but Sunderland look bad.

Di Canio also signalling it was his fault to the crowd.

[Crimey]

Yeah I think Sunderland are the most likely outside of the promoted sides to be relegated. They've signed a lot of players, but all of them have had no or very little experience of the English game which is always a bit worrying for a team of Sunderland's level, if they don't gel or deliver they'll quickly slip into the relegation zone.

I think they'll be relying on Steven Fletcher to keep firing in goals this year and not get injured.

[Duty281]

Vital days for 6 out of the 12 sides today:

Man City - Stopped 1 bad result turning into 2.
Cardiff - Another vital point for them.
Newcastle - Needed to score, needed to win, and got it.
Norwich - Back on the right track after last week.
Stoke - 2 wins out of 3, great start for them.
Palace - First win of the season, always a relief and a confidence-booster.

[NickisBHAFC]

Agree with that Duty

City looked far from convincing today and if Aluko took his chance in the first half, it could of been a different story.

Chelsea looking the best so far out of the "Big 3"

[Fernando]

Rooney doubtful for tomorrow's game with Liverpool due to head injury.

[mystiroakey]

Great to get win in before the man u fixture.. in fairness we should be on 4 or 5 points but hey ho we could have easily been on none..

Up the Palace. Saff london and proud

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

The scoreline was only 1-0, but how on earth there were not more goals in the game down Carrow Road today I'll never know! Freek Leroy Fer missed a golden chance after about 20 mins, gutted for ya man.

As for the game it was a solid performance from us, certainly we are looking much more of an attacking threat this season. Redmond was brilliant today, great goal, but just his general play was much much better. What a talent he is.

As for Seb Bassong for me unless we bring another CB in, our season depends on him. With him in the side, we look like such a solid unit at the back. A leader. Leroy Fer was all over the park today as well. Snodgrass didn't have a great game and Elmander faceplanted which was funny.

Saints were indifferent. Lots of meaningless passes, and not a lot in the final third. Wanyama and Osvaldo were particularly poor today, Osvaldo was shocking. And for some bizarre reason Pochettino took off clearly there best player, maybe the best on the park, in Adam Lallana after 60 mins for Ramirez. Outrageously stupid move. Lallana miles ahead of any other Saints player today. Shocking management.

Anyways I hope we can translate such performances to away from home now. Nathan Redmond is a star in the making

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

RVW was quiet, but he endlessly chased lost causes and put himself about, literally knackered at the end. He'll reap the rewards in coming games

[Crimey]

Rooney doubtful for tomorrow's game with Liverpool due to head injury.

Hasn't stopped him playing for the last ten years.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Apparantly Di Canio has launched a scathing attack on his players in the MOTD interview or so Gary Linekar tweets.

All signs are pointing to it not ending too well for Paolo so far

[Fernando]

Rooney doubtful for tomorrow's game with Liverpool due to head injury.

Hasn't stopped him playing for the last ten years.

Aye, That's why it's making me think there may be more too it then just a "Head Injury"

[Crimey]

I can't see it being anything other than injury though, not sure there is anybody left who would sign him.

[Fernando]

Might of been Chelsea going back for Round 2.6 million, Let's face it Eto'o is only a 1 year deal if he flops their still gunna need a forward next season.

[The Terror of Tylorstown]

The chances of Rooney leaving now are zero.

[Guest]

Rooney going nowhere. Yeah, but you could say that about Ba, Torres or Eto'o not being there next year. Chelsea will buy every year, can't see Rooney going anywhere. If Rooney does not sign a new deal then Chelsea can go back in next summer.

Di Canio's days are numbered. Di Canio launching attacks on his players will do no good for team morale, he's too volatile for me and out of control. As soon as things began to go pear-shaped there, after the honeymoon period, everybody knew fireworks would erupt. The players he's bought just aren't experienced or good enough for this league.

[The Special Juan]

I see where you're coming from Hero but the "last man, off" rule is pretty easy to ref.

Oh, I see you've written something similar now.

Also easy to ref that last man = yellow.

Just cos its easy doesn't mean it's right.

Of course. I don't know what the rule is at the moment whether it is last man = red card or something else. If it is that then it's obviously a red but if the rule states it has to be deliberate (like handball) for a red card then it was wrong.

[The Terror of Tylorstown]

When it's a clear cynical tackle to stop a certain goal then it should be a red. When it's just a clumsy tackle like that a yellow and the penalty should be sufficient.

I agree, id send people off for hacking people down on the half way line to stop a counter attack etc

The last man thing just annoys me as I don't recall ever seeing it in the rules - been a few years since I read them mind.

I agree, can't remember who it was he fouled but Nastasic in the City game was a very cynical foul yet only a yellow.

[NickisBHAFC]

Laughable defending by Sunderland.

[NickisBHAFC]

Superb header from Steven Fletcher, wow Sunderland need him fit for the season.

Palace playing some good football. 100% a penalty, delighted to see Dwight Gayle score, cracking player fairytale story.

Amazing goal by that young lad.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Sunderland with only 1 point on the board with a ridiculously hard set of fixtures coming up, it's getting tough for Paolo.

Guess we'll see what he's made of post-international break

[Guest]

He's got his work cut out, that's for sure.

Olly, did Fer come close today?

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