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Post by Liam Mon 9 Sep 2013 - 12:51

Macedonia vs Scotland (7:30)
Wales vs Serbia (7:45)
Ukraine vs England (7:45)
Austria vs ROI (7:45)

As a welsh man i'm not holding out for too much against Serbia. We're without joniesta and williams so it means there's even more pressure on Ramsey to pull something out the bag again. Hopefully Coleman's team selection and tactics improve and we're more positive against Serbia. If we'd gone for it we would've won in Macedonia. Fingers crossed bale get's 15 mins at least.

Tough games for England and ROI, I expect England to get a point at least or maybe sneak a win.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Mon 9 Sep 2013 - 13:02

Macedonia 1-1 Scotland
Wales 0-1 Serbia
Ukraine 1-1 England
Austria 0-0 ROI

Tough night for all British kids.

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Post by Liam Mon 9 Sep 2013 - 13:16

I agree nick, although if Scotland are more positive than wales they'll win. Macedonia were all over the shop when took the game to them. We're actually expecting a big crowd vs Serbia for once so fingers crossed the crowd will get behind the boys and they really take it to serbia. Losing 6-1 to them last time out is surely motivation enough, and the fact it was speedo's birthday yesterday.

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Post by Duty281 Mon 9 Sep 2013 - 13:29

England win, and we can look forward to next summer.

England draw, and their fate is still in their hands, but there will be a lot riding on next month.

England lose, and the play-offs against possibly France or Portugal beckon.

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Post by Duty281 Mon 9 Sep 2013 - 13:51

Spoiler:

England expected to line up like that tomorrow. Still sticking with my 2-0 England prediction - Lampard and Walcott to score.

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Post by Crimey Mon 9 Sep 2013 - 14:11

Apparently Hodgson is considering starting Smalling at right back, probably to be more defensive, but it may have something to do with pictures of him being released doing laughing gas.

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Post by Riggs Mon 9 Sep 2013 - 15:28

England will win, so says my heart, as the Ukraine don't have as many skilled players, as far as I'm aware, so I predict a typical 2-1 win to England.

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Post by Liam Mon 9 Sep 2013 - 17:20

Bale has apparently picked up a groin injury in training. May be out of Madrid's game vs Villareal. Anothing nail in the coffin for tomorrow's game. Looking at lining up as:

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Post by Duty281 Mon 9 Sep 2013 - 17:50

Only one change for tomorrow says Roy, with someone (presumably and hopefully Milner) coming in for Welbeck. Unless Roy has a rush of blood and picks Sterling of course.

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Post by Duty281 Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 10:31

England: Seaman, Dyer, Southgate, Adams, Keown, Guppy, Lampard, Ince, Redknapp, Shearer, Phillips. Subs: Neville, Martyn, Le Saux, Wise, Scholes, Heskey, Owen.

That was the England team when Frank Lampard made his debut in a 2-1 friendly win over Belgium 14 years ago.

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Post by Duty281 Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 11:14

Roy Hodgson will also be the first England boss to field 3 centurions in his team tonight. #stat

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Post by Crimey Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 12:51

Was that a 5-3-2 England side? Laugh

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Post by John Cregan Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 12:56

Duty281 wrote:Roy Hodgson will also be the first England boss to field 3 centurions in his team tonight. #stat
Might be hard for them to move around with all that Armour though...........

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Post by Duty281 Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 13:48

Crimey wrote:Was that a 5-3-2 England side? Laugh
That was the future in 'em days Crimey! Passing it out from the back, flooding the centre of midfield etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQbsN2XC7PE

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Post by John Cregan Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 14:59

England usually do very well in these tough away qualifiers, but im not sure about tonight.
 
Would like to see Baines come in for Welbeck and see how he does with Ashley Cole in the 4-5-1/4-3-3 formation......although im sure it will be Milner.
 
Milner is woefully limited though, as are Englands striking options................
 
Im going to plump for 2-1 Ukraine win...........

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Post by Duty281 Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 17:52

Russia 2-0 Israel as it stands.

If Russia win that, they'll be on top spot with 2 games left against minnows Luxembourg and Azerbaijan, whilst Portugal will be facing a potentially tricky play-off to make it to the World Cup.

And people say England are struggling!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 18:04

We shall win 3-1
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 18:24

The FA ‏@FA
#England: 1 Hart, 2 Walker, 3 Cole, Gerrard (c), 5 Cahill, 6 Jagielka, 7 Walcott, 8 Lampard, 9 Lambert, 10 Wilshere, 11 Milner. #UkrvEng

Just the one change as expected with Milner in for Welbeck
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Post by Guest Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 18:31

Macedonia vs Scotland: 1-0

Wales vs Serbia: 0-2

Ukraine vs England: 0-2

Austria vs ROI: 0-2

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Post by Steffan Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 18:32

Wales will probably lose again tonight. Im never normally this pessimistic but I have no faith in Coleman it is sad to say

Would love Ukraine to do a number on England but cant see that happening either sadly

A bad night if your a Welsh football fan I think. Hope im wrong though

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Post by The Terror of Tylorstown Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 18:36

Come on Serbia.

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Post by Steffan Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 18:40

The Terror of Tylorstown wrote:Come on Serbia.
You English then or a Welshman who wants Coleman out?

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Post by The Terror of Tylorstown Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 18:44

I'm English thank god.

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Post by JDizzle Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 18:47

Chris Coleman says Gareth Bale was not fit enough to play yet he put him on the bench. Doh 

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Post by Jimmy Moz Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 18:54

The Terror of Tylorstown wrote:I'm English thank god.
Yet your username is after a Welshman? As an Irishman naturally I'm hoping my fellow countrymen can do the business against Austria. Good luck to Scotland and Wales as well though OK. I still have the jury out on Trapattoni.

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Post by The Terror of Tylorstown Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 18:55

Boxing is far different to football, a lot less tribal.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 18:57

Jimmy Moz wrote:
The Terror of Tylorstown wrote:I'm English thank god.
Yet your username is after a Welshman? As an Irishman naturally I'm hoping my fellow countrymen can do the business against Austria. Good luck to Scotland and Wales as well though OK. I still have the jury out on Trapattoni.
haha

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Post by Liam Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 19:23

Don't understand the stick Milner get's. I've always quite liked him. Works hard, has a good cross and shot on him when he's in range. He'll provide cover for Cole tonight down the left hand side in what will be a tough game in Kiev. He's the type of player you need sometimes in these sorts of games. As a Welsh man I hope England win tonight, always support them in the major tournaments, never the same without them. Looking at the Welsh side, it'll won't be far off a miracle if we win tonight.

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Post by spencerclarke Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 19:30

Scotland and england draw. Republic and wales to win

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Post by Steffan Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 19:31

Must admit even though I want England to lose ofcourse it is funny to watch when they qualify and we are all subjected to months of 'The boys are gonna win it' and 'Spirit of 1966 will shine through' and then when they lose on penalties to someone its like a national blame fest on why it all went wrong

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 19:33

Where is the Ukraine flag steffan?

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Post by spencerclarke Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 19:35

Liam wrote:Don't understand the stick Milner get's. I've always quite liked him. Works hard, has a good cross and shot on him when he's in range. He'll provide cover for Cole tonight down the left hand side in what will be a tough game in Kiev. He's the type of player you need sometimes in these sorts of games. As a Welsh man I hope England win tonight, always support them in the major tournaments, never the same without them. Looking at the Welsh side, it'll won't be far off a miracle if we win tonight.
Well said liam. I always cheer on all of the home nations. Don'tmind a bit of banter but iit's better to see them all doing well.

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Post by Steffan Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 19:36

mystiroakey wrote:Where is the Ukraine flag steffan?
Wales are palying so I already have a team to cheer on. Next year in the world cup il get the flags back up Very Happy 

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 19:36

Red and white tonight. The correct colour!

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 19:36

Steffan wrote:
mystiroakey wrote:Where is the Ukraine flag steffan?
Wales are palying so I already have a team to cheer on. Next year in the world cup il get the flags back up Very Happy 
Stop with the excuses - You are just slacking.

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Post by Liam Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 19:38

Absolutely Spencer. And just like to say I heard reports of around 16-17000 at the CCS tonight. there's about 7,000. Very dissapointing but I think it just sums up Coleman's reign. His hands are tied tonight with injuries and suspensions but wins bring crowds. Wales aren't winning, and the crowds aren't coming. Shame.

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 19:41

Was that Joe Harts Voice--

That would have made it to the x factor auditions!!

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Post by Liam Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 19:42

My word, Ramsey and Ivanovic have had to read out to the crowd that they'll play by the rules and respect each other. Who's idea was that at Fifa?? Embarrassing

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 19:42

Same thing with Gerrard and ukraine matey boy!

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 19:47

looked like a penalty to me!!

Thats a nice bit of luck to england!

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Post by spencerclarke Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 19:49

Bright start by walcott

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Post by spencerclarke Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 19:50

Need to make the most of these corners, the Ukraine look rocky

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Post by Steffan Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 19:55

Wales losing already

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Post by spencerclarke Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 19:57

Who scored steffan? Early days, time to get back in it

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 19:58

ukraine players are massive.. that no 7 is a dangerman

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Post by spencerclarke Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 19:58

Ukraine are tearing our defence apart!

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Post by Steffan Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 20:03

spencerclarke wrote:Who scored steffan? Early days, time to get back in it
Not sure to be honest. We look poor as ever

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Post by spencerclarke Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 20:06

You don't seem to have the same team ethic under Coleman as you have had in the past. I think your boys need to go back to being a hard working team that's difficult to break down first and foremost. Unfortunately it looks like bale could end up like giggs. I.e. his team having more power over if and when he plays.

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Post by spencerclarke Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 20:07

Oh god Luxembourg have levelled it up against northern ireland

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Post by Steffan Tue 10 Sep 2013 - 20:08

The only highlight will be Bale coming on hopefully at the 60 minute mark. We need a good manager instead of the usual dross we employ (Sparky and Speedo not included ofcourse)

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