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Post by mobilemaster8 Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:34 am

First topic message reminder :

Evening Gents,

Not been started yet so here is the thread with the impending action live on channel 5 followed by the big ones stateside on Boxnation/Showtime Online.

Post your thoughts, views, predictions, score cards, comments....or whatever.....drunken slurs (mackem).

Enjoy gents, its going to be a long but exciting night!!

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:38 pm

Wlad K v Mayweather.

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Post by Marky Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:39 pm

Scottrf wrote:
Marky wrote:You're implying I said Alvarez won them easily. I'm saying it was easy for me to score them to Alvarez because he was better in those rounds. What's not to get?
If it was easy for you to score it to him that implies to me that you thought he won them pretty clearly.
So you misunderstood my point? Fair enough.

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Post by Scottrf Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:40 pm

Marky wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Marky wrote:You're implying I said Alvarez won them easily. I'm saying it was easy for me to score them to Alvarez because he was better in those rounds. What's not to get?
If it was easy for you to score it to him that implies to me that you thought he won them pretty clearly.
So you misunderstood my point? Fair enough.
Doesn't sound like you have one.

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Post by Marky Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:40 pm

Why do they keep talking about Khan v Mayweather? Khan has to get ahead of Garcia and get past Alexander first.

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Post by YDKSAB Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:40 pm

ALL the quality coming from Money MAy. Canelo couldnt hit sh1t the ENTIRE fight. Mayweather COULDNT MISS with the jab and was landing QUALITY punchies all fight. His DEFENCE was in ANOTHER LEAGUE. EASY schooling for Mayweather those judges dont know sh1t. Same sh1t as de la Hoya fight just coz they are Golden Boy.

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Post by Marky Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:41 pm

Scottrf wrote:
Marky wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Marky wrote:You're implying I said Alvarez won them easily. I'm saying it was easy for me to score them to Alvarez because he was better in those rounds. What's not to get?
If it was easy for you to score it to him that implies to me that you thought he won them pretty clearly.
So you misunderstood my point? Fair enough.
Doesn't sound like you have one.
All I did was give my opinion, you're the one making a fuss Laugh

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Post by dangerous_mouse Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:43 pm

YDKSAB wrote:ALL the quality coming from Money MAy. Canelo couldnt hit sh1t the ENTIRE fight. Mayweather COULDNT MISS with the jab and was landing QUALITY punchies all fight. His DEFENCE was in ANOTHER LEAGUE. EASY schooling for Mayweather those judges dont know sh1t. Same sh1t as de la Hoya fight just coz they are Golden Boy.
Boxingscene forum crashed during the fight?

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Post by Valero's Conscience Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:44 pm

Had it 118-111 to Floyd.

Gave Floyd 9 rounds, 2 to Canelo and 1 even.

Canelo looked completely disheartened at times and clueless what to do.

Thought Canelo would go for broke in the last 3 rounds but easier said than done against Floyd.


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Post by SweetScience Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:45 pm

Should appreciate Floyd right now he won't be around forever!

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Post by seanmichaels Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:45 pm

John Bloody Wayne wrote:
YDKSAB wrote:Canelo got completely SCHOOLED. Now to sit back and watch the HATERS try to HATE on Money!!! DAMN it must burn them. Canelo 15 pounds HEAVIER and Mayweather able to BACK HIM UP and some fools saying he RUNS???

Now lets see the HATERS say Canelo was NO GOOD and Money should fight Martinez or Ward next!!!

DAMN!
Too much fizzy pop?
Lilt I expeck.

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Post by YDKSAB Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:46 pm

SweetScience wrote:Should appreciate Floyd right now he won't be around forever!  
exactly bro

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Post by YDKSAB Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:46 pm

CJ Ross needs to quit. FACT!

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Post by Strongback Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:47 pm

I knew the fight wasn't worth making the effort to watch live but I got caught up in the buzz. Never again.

I've no interest in watching over matched fights listening to commentators chocking the chicken.



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Post by YDKSAB Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:48 pm

Strongback wrote:I knew the fight wasn't worth making the effort to watch live but I got caught up in the buzz.  Never again.

I've no interest in watching over matched fights listening to commentators chocking the chicken.


Hurts watching Money May dont it bro!

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Post by hogey Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:49 pm

YDKSAB wrote:ALL the quality coming from Money MAy. Canelo couldnt hit sh1t the ENTIRE fight. Mayweather COULDNT MISS with the jab and was landing QUALITY punchies all fight. His DEFENCE was in ANOTHER LEAGUE. EASY schooling for Mayweather those judges dont know sh1t. Same sh1t as de la Hoya fight just coz they are Golden Boy.
Sort it out mate you sound like a 12yr old American kid, apologies if you are a 12 yr old American kid of course.

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Post by SweetScience Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:49 pm

People moan about the state of boxing right now, but we have an ATG fighting in Floyd, can't knock him!

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Post by Strongback Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:50 pm

YDKSAB wrote:
Strongback wrote:I knew the fight wasn't worth making the effort to watch live but I got caught up in the buzz.  Never again.

I've no interest in watching over matched fights listening to commentators chocking the chicken.


Hurts watching Money May dont it bro!
Nah, that fight proved nothing. What's the point?



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Post by YDKSAB Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:51 pm

SweetScience wrote:People moan about the state of boxing right now, but we have an ATG fighting in Floyd, can't knock him!
People try bro, all the time. Just watch the haters come out tomorrow.

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Post by Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:51 pm

Thought there was going to be a No Mas moment from Canelo in the twelfth. He was clearly getting frustrated and I thought he was about to turn away at one point.

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Post by monzon Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:51 pm

I see the trolls are out en force again. Surprise, surprise.

Floyd won every round. Couldn't even give Alvarez a share of one, which was a shame as like pretty much everybody i wanted him to win.

Men versus boys, though. Spoiled the occasion a bit, but in another way as a fight fan i just feel privileged to be watching true greatness. Don't like the guy, but he's the only currently-active fighter who a) transcends the sport, and b) is all time great material.

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Post by hogey Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:51 pm

SweetScience wrote:People moan about the state of boxing right now, but we have an ATG fighting in Floyd, can't knock him!
Agree mate, just a shame he is so good that his fights are so dull though.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:51 pm

No one can beat Floyd. No one.

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Post by YDKSAB Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:51 pm

Strongback wrote:
YDKSAB wrote:
Strongback wrote:I knew the fight wasn't worth making the effort to watch live but I got caught up in the buzz.  Never again.

I've no interest in watching over matched fights listening to commentators chocking the chicken.


Hurts watching Money May dont it bro!
Nah, that fight proved nothing. What's the point?


Nah you just a Mayweather HATER feeling BURNED!

I feel GOOD!

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:53 pm

hogey wrote:
SweetScience wrote:People moan about the state of boxing right now, but we have an ATG fighting in Floyd, can't knock him!
Agree mate, just a shame he is so good that his fights are so dull though.
If there was someone good enough to make it competitive it wouldnt. Personally I enjoy him though.

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Post by YDKSAB Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:54 pm

appreciate the skills people, appreciate the skills.

let the haters hate, they the ones burned.

im out

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Post by Strongback Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:56 pm

YDKSAB wrote:
Strongback wrote:
YDKSAB wrote:
Strongback wrote:I knew the fight wasn't worth making the effort to watch live but I got caught up in the buzz.  Never again.

I've no interest in watching over matched fights listening to commentators chocking the chicken.


Hurts watching Money May dont it bro!
Nah, that fight proved nothing. What's the point?


Nah you just a Mayweather HATER feeling BURNED!

I feel GOOD!


Good lad.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:57 pm

Genuinely thought Canelo could push him that bit more but Floyd honestly could have fought running, on the inside or in the pocket like he did and won. Think he might be the best boxer I have ever watched in action.

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Post by SweetScience Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:58 pm

YDKSAB / hogey levels above everyone. Proof is in the pudding every time he does the business.

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Post by All Time Great Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:01 pm

I still think Pacquiao could challenge him, he throws from a variety of angles and has the punch output which could impregnate Floyds defence (if the Marquez KO hasn't destroyed him, which is a strong possibility).

Other than that, there's no one. Khan has the hand speed but don't think he has the ring IQ to cause any damage.

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Post by monzon Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:02 pm

I just don't see any orthodox fighters hitting him.

If there was a crude, rough-house, defensive southpaw out there...possbily, but still not sure.

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Post by sparxz Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:03 pm

Scottrf wrote:
Marky wrote:You're implying I said Alvarez won them easily. I'm saying it was easy for me to score them to Alvarez because he was better in those rounds. What's not to get?
If it was easy for you to score it to him that implies to me that you thought he won them pretty clearly.
Agreed you can't say u scored a easy decision round to someone without implying they won it easy, otherwise would be a difficult decision

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:04 pm

Pacquiao's too one dimensional, Floyd has a field day in there, Manny can't understand boxers with linear movement he just chases, as I've been saying for Yonks.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:06 pm

Oh, and just have to put it out there MATTHYSSE AINT LOOKING UNBEATABLE AT 140 IS HE, THANKYOU DANNY MY GAAAAWD!!!

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Post by SweetScience Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:09 pm

Just happy to be a boxing fan and being part of the Mayweather era. These fighters are few and far between appreciate them while they are still active. Because you will in the future. .

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Post by AlexHuckerby Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:14 pm

OH and 1 last thing, I didn't think there would be a worse fight this year than Banks/Mitchell 2, but Smith/Molina made it possible.

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Post by Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:23 pm

Mayweather should just retire now. There aren't 3 credible fights out there for him. Anything more is just lining his retirement fund.

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Post by Rowley Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:00 pm

YDKSAB wrote:ALL the quality coming from Money MAy. Canelo couldnt hit sh1t the ENTIRE fight. Mayweather COULDNT MISS with the jab and was landing QUALITY punchies all fight. His DEFENCE was in ANOTHER LEAGUE. EASY schooling for Mayweather those judges dont know sh1t. Same sh1t as de la Hoya fight just coz they are Golden Boy.

Can I just remind you continuing and flagrant attempts to get round the swear filter is against the site rules. If it carries your posts will be removed.

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Post by ShahenshahG Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:04 pm

Did you get to watch it Rowley?

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Post by Rowley Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:07 pm

No mate, have not got boxnation and have no intention of leaving my bed at half 3 to watch some god awful stream that continually lags, stops or gets taken down every two minutes all the while infecting my computer with all manner of viruses

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Post by ShahenshahG Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:20 pm

Fair enough, You didnt miss much, the first fight and the third were brilliant - be sure to catch up on those, the second one (Molina) was worse than Calzaghe vs Hopkins being narrated by John Major and the Main event was interesting rather than exciting, largely because of the twits sheer display of skill. Kid Galahad fight was quite fun as well.

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Post by Rowley Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:23 pm

Floyd is like Jones used to be, worth watching as you have to admire the sheer skill and artistry but very few of his fights you would care to revisit as he is so far in front of the chasing pack. Will catch it at some point I am sure.

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Post by Izzi Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:05 pm

Rowley wrote:Floyd is like Jones used to be, worth watching as you have to admire the sheer skill and artistry but very few of his fights you would care to revisit as he is so far in front of the chasing pack. Will catch it at some point I am sure.
Agree with the skill comparison, although Floyd for me is superior in every dept barring power. Would probably also say he's fought a better level of fighter and against Canelo there were a lot of people picking the young Mexican.

But yes, seldom involved in humdingers (first Castillo fight was a cracker) but suppose we can't blame him for not wanting to get hit and has the skill set to do just that whilst returning fire etc.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yV12iubG4FI

Didn't catch it either... Quite how one guy had it 114-114 I have no idea.

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Post by ShahenshahG Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:08 pm

What i would give for Floyd vs Duran/Leonard.

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Post by Rodney Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:37 pm

I had 115-113 Mayweather, he was brilliant and deserved the victory. The commentary from the UK was awful cheerleading need to have a look at themselves.

Great fighter Floyd but awful to watch.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:21 pm

not quite sure how this fight was even scored remotely close.

116-112 was being VERY generous, and I would love to see these scorecards.

Sympathy scores maybe?

The kid was utterly outclassed by MILES! Mayweather was dominant from start to finish, and for me, nails him top 5 ATG without a shadow of a doubt.

Last night was possibly his best ever performance.

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Post by milkyboy Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:23 pm

Rawlings is awful, thought jones was allright.... I thought they were being kind to Alvarez rodders Very Happy 

A few fairly even rounds you could give to him if you wanted, when it was in the bag and mayweather was coasting. But it looked like a drubbing from my living room.

Seems quite a divide between those seeing a shut out and those thinking it was close.

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Post by hampo17 Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:29 pm

CJ Ross is a disgrace, it's not the first time she's had a card like this but to have that fight a draw you had to be watching a different fight.

Floyd once again was fantastic and made Canelo look average and clumsy, doesn't look to be slowing down with age either.

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Post by Boxtthis Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:49 pm

Who does Floyd fight now? He's pretty much beaten every credible threat.

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Post by Strongback Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:32 pm

milkyboy wrote:Rawlings is awful, thought jones was allright.... I thought they were being kind to Alvarez rodders Very Happy 

A few fairly even rounds you could give to him if you wanted, when it was in the bag and mayweather was coasting. But it looked like a drubbing from my living room.

Seems quite a divide between those seeing a shut out and those thinking it was close.

It wasn't in any way close but Alverez did enough to win 3 close rounds in my view but like you say Mayweather could have won them all if he wanted. 117-111 for me. Not a shut out but still a completely comprehensive victory against an opponent who was greatly overmatched. Many people called this type of result and I was tempted to throw a lump on Floyd to win by decision at 2/1 on, should have done it and will definitely do it next time.


Somebody needs to have a word with Rawling or maybe Frank has told him to be flogging the bishop when Floyd is fighting. He doesn't want the Floyd fights going to Sky, neither do I by the way. Harry Carpenter had nothing on Rawling when it comes to bias.

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Why did Alvarez give away the first six rounds so easily? was he weight drained or did he just have a terrible game plan?

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