Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread

[Bull]

First topic message reminder :

Cleverly ?? Are you freaking kidding me!

[Ent]

Oh my god lineker has just had a pop at how crap we are- moyes out.

[Ent]

Poor performance all over the pitch, no plus points, hard to see where we will improve and cl qualification looks improbable.

Moyes out, I never wanted him and he's been terrible never mind out of his depth.

[mystiroakey]

Dunno, you've to have so many points to even apply for an away game.

Give it ten years and you won't be able to give Man U tickets away

[Ent]

I always knew a prolonged period with no trophies was likely post fergie but I thought wed challenge for a few years no matter who was in charge.

With the squad left and the amount of experienced winners in it - is moyes the worst manager in the pl?

[Ent]

Dunno, you've to have so many points to even apply for an away game.

Give it ten years and you won't be able to give Man U tickets away

Doubt it, if there's ever any problems they'll cut priced and all the mancs and Irish will start going again.

[mystiroakey]

Well I am not sure how good moyes is- Because Everton look better than last season allready.

Look in honesty its early days.

Man U are fair game to rip to shreds deservedly or not!


You have had it good!

[Ent]

I don't take abuse from anyone else as we are reigning champions and the most successful team for the last 2 decades.

I'm their biggest critic.

[mystiroakey]

its all banter mate, but yes moyes could be the worst manager

[Ent]

Could well be, united with no manager should be doing better.

[Ent]

What's mike dean on?

No way is that another card

[Duty281]

Rio Ferdinand single-handedly brings back Saturday night comedy to the BBC with some very "interesting" (to say the least) defending.

Moyes clearly needs time to build a team, and that takes years, not months. It took Fergie that long anyway. Probably won't cut much ice with the glory-hunting, prawn-sandwich-eating brigade who have jumped on the bandwagon over the past 2 decades, but hey ho. Investment clearly required in the centre of defence, the centre of midfield, and the wings (urgently).

Time. It's a wonderful concept. Give Moyes some, and we'll all watch a couple of seeds blossom into a big bouquet of...trophies. But firstly, Moyes needs to buy some flowers, or perhaps plant some of his own seeds (read youth academy).

[mystiroakey]

I love Jose!!

Anyway

That spat with torres and Jan was a bit childish.

But to torres credit that made him play better- it gave him fire..

That is the secret to his game

[mystiroakey]

Duty I can never see Moyes having the personality to cope at this level. If they wanted a scot with passion and identity and confidence- Lambert is the man!!

[Ent]

Fergie wasnt handed a championship winning side with several players who had won multiple leagues and a cl.

Foolish to compare them.

Moyes should be gone already - he'll be lucky to see out a year.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I've been to Stoke the last two seasons Jack, each time I've said I'll never go back but here we are again

[Ent]

Aye but going back isn't the same as going on an away trip with a coach of lads.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Moyes the worst manager in the PL?!

Oh dear lord

[Ent]

Moyes the worst manager in the PL?!

Oh dear lord

Think anyone else would have done worse with united?

[Guest]

Ent who would you like in charge then?

Who floats your boat?

You must be the most pessimistic football fan on the internet.

[Guest]

Makes me laugh. 10 years of doing a sterling job at Everton and all of a sudden Moyes is pants. My god indeed.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Duty I can never see Moyes having the personality to cope at this level. If they wanted a scot with passion and identity and confidence- Lambert is the man!!

I always said Lambert would take over from Fergie but i thought Fergie would go on for another 3/4 years tbh.

I can think of many Ent. Have Chrissy Hughton although that may push you to depths never seen before

[Ent]

Anyone else tbh.

Personally I wanted mourinho for 2 years then a long term successor. I know most didnt agree with that.

The way we've played id have been happy with mike phelan.

[Ent]

Makes me laugh. 10 years of doing a sterling job at Everton and all of a sudden Moyes is pants. My god indeed.

Being average at Everton doesn't mean you'll be good for united and so far he has been terrible with every single thing he's done being a huge mistake.

He'll be lucky to get another job come may.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Love the overreaction from Utd fans.

Sometimes you're gonna lose just the nature of the league. I remember when they lost to Steve Kean's blackburn at home. Things happen.

Judge him after christmas, he's barely into the job yet

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

"Being average at Everton"

Might just be the funniest thing I've read on here

[Duty281]

I'm not sure what was expected of Moyes by this point? Personally, I see his first season as a "free hit", time to find his feet and settle in. Finish in the top 3, reach the CL knockout stage, and maybe win one of the domestic cups. Then he'll be properly judged from next season onwards.

Not good enough for the glory-hunting brigade, but actual football fans will realise that teams in transition rarely start smoothly. And so it has proved.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

West Ham got screwed man

[Ent]

What did Everton actually achieve under him.

1 fa cup final in 10 years.

In other words nothing.

How this qualifies you for one of the biggest jobs in football I don't know.

Anyway we will continue to play terrible with teams a guy in the street wouldn't pick and be told he's great and we are lucky to have had previous success.

Well be lucky to win a league again before I die - fergie was a genius.

[Duty281]

What did Everton actually achieve under him.

1 fa cup final in 10 years.

In other words nothing.

How this qualifies you for one of the biggest jobs in foootball I don't know.

Anyway we will continue to play terrible with teams a guy in the street wouldn't pick and be told he's great and we are lucky  to have had previous success.

Well be lucky to win a league again before I die - fergie was a genius.

Perhaps because a man going by the name of Sir Alex Ferguson, a man who was possibly the greatest manager of all time and knows a great deal more about football than you or I, recommended him?

[Bull]

Ent you're a funny guy are you not?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Anyways I'll see you guys the over side of a glorious 2-1 Norwich win and Michael Turner scoring first, which in turn will win me 291 quid  

[Guest]

I'll give that bet a miss Olly. Have a good un

[Ent]

Aye because fergie never bought a turkey like bebe
, djemba djemba, pruner, Taibi etc - he's backed a donkey, you don't get on him again.

Moyes out, fergie/phelan in for 8 months, try again in the summer. Moyes can retire and enjoy his family now.

[compelling and rich]

Players like young, fletcher, nani and valencia have been made to look good by a legendary manager.

THE club needs to understand they aren't that good and start actually playing the talent they have at their disposal and yes they need to buy players in the window.

I think Nani is one of United's more better players. He shouldn't be mentioned alongside the likes Young and Valencia.

The problem is that United currently don't have a great deal of talent at the disposal. The majority of their players should be no more than just squad players but are making the starting eleven due to the lack of overall quality of the team.

cant agree with that, valencia despite being less talented than nani has easily out performed him. nani has no place putting the united top on, where as valencia gives his all every game and has really only had one bad season as opposed to nani every season bar one!

its Fletcher who doesn't deserve to be in that list, proper club pro who gives his all for the club. something which in the past with the likes of nevilles, o'shea, brown, butt etc we have had plenty of. there is now no leaders with no players willing to give there all for the club (see rooney)

[Dr Gregory House MD]

Aye because fergie never bought a turkey like bebe
, djemba djemba, pruner, Taibi etc - he's backed a donkey, you don't get on him again.

Moyes out, fergie/phelan in for 8 months, try again in the summer. Moyes can retire and enjoy his family now.

This may be the greatest case of overreaction I've ever seen on an internet forum, and that's saying something.

[compelling and rich]

i would also add that we have to give moyes plenty of time because we did fergie is rubbish! fergie took over a team who hadnt won the league for years. moyes has taken over the champions of the league and with transfer dealings, spanking from our rivals, losing at home to wba has made us a laughing stock fairly quickly. we walked the league last season and with the upheavel at other main rivals dont think anybody is that much stronger. city showed that today.

arsenal havent got that much stronger its us who's got alot weaker

[Ent]

Look moyes hasn't a clue and it has shown scarily early.

People saying he'd be exposed etc meant I the latter stages of the cl and title race - not in the first 2 months of the season.

He won't go back to a mid table club after having the big job so might as well spend some time with his family- it's over for him.

[mystiroakey]

i would also add that we have to give moyes plenty of time because we did fergie is rubbish! fergie took over a team who hadnt won the league for years. moyes has taken over the champions of the league and with transfer dealings, spanking from our rivals, losing at home to wba has made us a laughing stock fairly quickly. we walked the league last season and with the upheavel at other main rivals dont think anybody is that much stronger. city showed that today.

arsenal havent got that much stronger its us who's got alot weaker

To be fair arsenal have got a lot stronger.

Its not just ozil that has changed things this year, its also wilshere and ramsey(fully recovered)

Now considering bale is supposed worth 90m

These 3 by that token are worth over 200m!! there are easily worth 2.5 of bale

[Dolphin Ziggler]

West Ham got screwed man

Didn't we just. I'll remember this game come May, scratching around for points.

[Duty281]

Absolutely p!ssing myself laughing at Ent's comments.

There's a concept Ent, it may be a bit lost on you, but it's where you "support" your team through thick and thin. That's what real football fans do anyway. Not surrender at the first sign of indifference.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Manchester United fans have not had to deal with that for a long time. That's not just the new generation either. There's fans there who have had it all glory glory since they were teenagers.

Moyes' comments about not having the standard of player to win the champions league is interesting. It's true, but it begs the question of his summer signings

[Steffan]

6 games in and Cardiff City are in the top half of the English and Welsh Premiership  

BLUEBIRDS!!!

[westisbest]

Been impressed with Cardiff so far.
Certainly holding there own.

Hull doing well to.

Gonna be an interesting season, top and bottom.

Certainly see both Manchester clubs dropping quite a few more points.

[Steffan]

Yes Hull are also doing well

While im a Cardiff fan I am also a football fan and its nice to see the league not dominated all the time by the same old money boys at the moment

Hats off to Arsenal though on spending money wisely and playing very attractive football

[mystiroakey]

Very true steffan. Its great to see a competitive prem! And arsenal add so much to this league

Thanks for the laff as well though with your irony


The English and welsh premiership. Yet you can't fathom ever admitting that our cricket team is actually ours!!

[Duty281]

Very true steffan. Its great to see a competitive prem! And arsenal add so much to this league

Thanks for the laff as well though with your irony


The English and welsh premiership. Yet you can't fathom ever admitting that our cricket team is actually ours!!

Just thinking that as well!

[Steffan]

Bring in Glasgow Celtic and Glasgow Scumgers I say

[GSC]

If Rangers and Glasgow want to start right at the bottom of the pyramid

[GSC]

Celtic even

[Steffan]

If Rangers and Glasgow want to start right at the bottom of the pyramid

Personally I cant stand either club (although Rangers are the lowest of the low) but wouldnt mind seeing them in there to mix it up a bit

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