the hearns and warren at it again

http://www.matchroomboxing.com/news/matchroom_sport_press_release_frank.htm


frank warren claimed that part of the matchroom business went into insolvency in the past week following warren putting his own company into administration(sports network all over again) as it owed £3 million to creditors

How is Warren still allowed to run a company. Are you not supposed to get banned when such things happen?

I doubt Matchroom would go into insolvency. While Eddie isnt capable of running a P up in a brewerey his good old daddy is a very sharp man and would not let this happen. Sports Network isnt up to much anymore without any funding from Sky

I just think it was frank trying to justify his actions by turning the spotlight back on to matchroom i don't think what frank said is true about the hearns

i don't agree with you steffan i think eddie is capable of running things well from a business view point

im not sure lumbering jack how he is didn't he screw calzaghe out of money by winding up sports network?

wheelchair1991 wrote:i think eddie is capable of running things well from a business view point

With daddys money and Sky backing him yes

He could not his own company

Steffan wrote:

wheelchair1991 wrote:i think eddie is capable of running things well from a business view point

With daddys money and Sky backing him yes

He could not his own company

i think your being slightly harsh there

and upon what evidence do you base that supposition, Steffan?

None, I'm guessing. #issues

Hey...at the moment the guy is producing some good fights so im not complaining. All im saying is that the guy wouldnt last 2 minutes on his own. Im glad he is being kept in cotton wool by Barry and Sky are funding the fights its good for boxing

wheelchair1991 wrote:

Steffan wrote:

wheelchair1991 wrote:i think eddie is capable of running things well from a business view point

With daddys money and Sky backing him yes

He could not his own company

i think your being slightly harsh there

ignore Steffan when it comes to anything or anyone connected to either Haye (who smashed up Enzo) or Froch (who called out JC about 10 yrs ago).

he's still upset over his boy getting hopelessley obliterated once Frank finally had him step up. Funny how Frank/BN's only 'top level' fighter loses his paper title and the business suddenly has to fold.

Steffan wrote:Hey...at the moment the guy is producing some good fights so im not complaining. All im saying is that the guy wouldnt last 2 minutes on his own. Im glad he is being kept in cotton wool by Barry and Sky are funding the fights its good for boxing

Now now Steffan. You are supposed to be a good natured wee wee taker. Let's not slip into whiney little Welsh girl territory.

Steffan wrote:Hey...at the moment the guy is producing some good fights so im not complaining. All im saying is that the guy wouldnt last 2 minutes on his own. Im glad he is being kept in cotton wool by Barry and Sky are funding the fights its good for boxing

so that's a no then......

Quit your personal attacks on me pal and just stick to the article

TopHat24/7 wrote:

wheelchair1991 wrote:

Steffan wrote:

wheelchair1991 wrote:i think eddie is capable of running things well from a business view point

With daddys money and Sky backing him yes

He could not his own company

i think your being slightly harsh there

ignore Steffan when it comes to anything or anyone connected to either Haye (who smashed up Enzo) or Froch (who called out JC about 10 yrs ago).

he's still upset over his boy getting hopelessley obliterated once Frank finally had him step up.  Funny how Frank/BN's only 'top level' fighter loses his paper title and the business suddenly has to fold.

Funny enough when watching BN yesterday it came up "BOXNATION, THE HOME OF CHAMPIONS"

Yet it hasn't got any....

Warren is basically finished if we are honest

I cant imagine Boxnation to keep going at this rate

Whilst the row is childish and unseemly there is a serious point in all this that these are the two premier promoters in Britain. Stuff like this makes the chances of us seeing the likes of Quigg and Frampton actually happening increasingly remote.

wheelchair1991 wrote:

Steffan wrote:

wheelchair1991 wrote:i think eddie is capable of running things well from a business view point

With daddys money and Sky backing him yes

He could not his own company

i think your being slightly harsh there

I'm not sure if it still does, but Eddie was making a loss for a while on the boxing promotion side of things.

We need Warren to go under. Give Eddie the monopoly. To be fair, Frank Warren is sticking Saunders v Ryder on at 1 in the morning, so with that sort of scheduling he will go under fairly soon I imagine.

But at least we got the co-chief support of some fella making his pro debut against a fella who ran around like he was drunk!!!

The biggest shame of all of this is the fact that, although Eddie Hearn has all of the domestic fighters on Sky... BoxNation shows pretty much every other fight from across the World.

Personally, I don't care for the drama between Matchroom and Warren. I just want to see fights!

Unfortunately, just like the fighters, governing bodies and everyone else in the sport - the egos between the two hurts the fans.

Whether Warren has gone into administration again will effect BoxNation will remain to be seen, but it looks like his promotional company is under...

Sky are showing Stevenson vs Cloud and Marquez vs Bradley which isn't too bad to be fair

BoxNation can't sustain at this rate. Half empty shows - limited talent, no exposure beyond die hard fans. What's most worrying is Frank seems to have lost his ability to make good judgement. He holds pressers for fighters without opponents FFS and then the next week to announce he is partnering with his kids.

Getting silly now. Billy Joe Saunders isn't convincing me of anything. Frampton is good but has made an idiotic move going to BoxNation at this point in his career.

If Frank survives then fair play to him, but he'll be waving email printouts in the air soon enough no doubt

School Project wrote:The biggest shame of all of this is the fact that, although Eddie Hearn has all of the domestic fighters on Sky... BoxNation shows pretty much every other fight from across the World.

Yeh, that's the only reason I subscribe. Been some cracking international action on.

From the start this has been about the Hearn's having a monopoly on top level Britsh boxing.

It's how they run snooker and darts.


Is a monopoly good?

3 PPV's tells the story.

Seanusarrilius wrote:BoxNation can't sustain at this rate. Half empty shows - limited talent, no exposure beyond die hard fans. What's most worrying is Frank seems to have lost his ability to make good judgement. He holds pressers for fighters without opponents FFS and then the next week to announce he is partnering with his kids.

Getting silly now. Billy Joe Suanders isn't convincing me of anything. Frampton is good but has made an idiotic move going to BoxNation at this point in his career.

If Frank survives then fair play to him, buthe'll be waving email printouts in the air soon enough no doubt

This was my concern watching the card this weekend. Ryder is no mug, it was a great match-up, but with the potential BJS is being talked up of I was expecting something a lot more impressive.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Seanusarrilius wrote:BoxNation can't sustain at this rate. Half empty shows - limited talent, no exposure beyond die hard fans. What's most worrying is Frank seems to have lost his ability to make good judgement. He holds pressers for fighters without opponents FFS and then the next week to announce he is partnering with his kids.

Getting silly now. Billy Joe Suanders isn't convincing me of anything. Frampton is good but has made an idiotic move going to BoxNation at this point in his career.

If Frank survives then fair play to him, buthe'll be waving email printouts in the air soon enough no doubt

This was my concern watching the card this weekend.  Ryder is no mug, it was a great match-up, but with the potential BJS is being talked up of I was expecting something a lot more impressive.

BJ Saunders doesn't have enough power for a start. That is becoming clear. He has hand problems, which is maybe the issue, but I see him being walked down on the world scene against a fighter with a big punch.

He looked like he had a decent dig originally. But, like JC, he's had serious hand injury issues and his punch has gone as a result.

How can you not survive if you bank the profits then dissolve when your creditors get too large? Good business model to be fair.

BJS is all fast hands no power. A bit like DeGale.


I wouldn't underestimate Ryder, he's no mug.

It was two lefties as well.

Strongback wrote:BJS is all fast hands no power. A bit like DeGale.


I wouldn't underestimate Ryder, he's no mug.

It was two lefties as well.

Not really underestimating Ryder, but more an observation on BJS skills. Wheny ou look at what he has versus world level Middles, it feels a lot like James Degale to me. No stay off me power, fast hands, but burns a lot of energy moving around. He is like Degale in the power stakes for me. Unlike Calzaghe, he can't throw 120 punches a round to make up for lack of pop

I actually thought BJS done alright the other night.

Ryder just ploughed forward tapping his head every few seconds, but BJ showed good handspeed and def deserved the W.

If Matchroom was in some sort of financial trouble I assume this means they're funding towards iFilm London would have to be stopped?

Steffan wrote:If Matchroom was in some sort of financial trouble I assume this means they're funding towards iFilm London would have to be stopped?

Haha, I love iFilm!

Kugan vs Booth is always great craic!!