Poll: Can Lewis still beat Wlad?

I don't expect to see Lewis back int he ring, but if he did come back to take on Wlad, could he beat him?

Hoenstly, I say yes. Wlad is a big lump of hug. One left right combo and Lewis would have Wlad on Bambi legs.

After seeing him this weekend, I am more convinced than ever that Wlad is one of the worst HW champs to have reigned for some time. He relies on his size, and when that isn't enough, he cheats. Leaning, hugging, throwing to the floor. It is pathetic to watch. He has not one single name on his record who I consider a world class heavy and would have been battered by an array of 90's heavyweights.

Lennox by KO.

No he'd get hammered...............Struggled with Vitali and would have lost a rematch......

add to that he hasn't fought in years.........

Got to be joking Mate.........

What better way to greet Lewis back into boxing than an opponent who will give him a big massive hug.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:No he'd get hammered...............Struggled with Vitali and would have lost a rematch......

add to that he hasn't fought in years.........

Got to be joking Mate.........

Vitali was far better than this Wlad. Lewis landed bombs on Vitali and one of theose would flatten Wald. Lewis doesn't have to be fit for twelve rounds, he gets it done inside 6 or not at all. Wlad relies almost exclusively on size and being able to get away with tricks that Lewis wouldn't let him get away with.

Tony Thompson gave Wlad trouble in their fights until he was stopped. Lewis pulls a Foreman via Moorer but earlier. Lewis KO in 4

Lewis wants 100 million....

If I remember, Calzaghe said if someone offered him £10 million he'd come back......I think hes still waiting by his phone, just waiting on the call that will never come

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:What better way to greet Lewis back into boxing than an opponent who will give him a big massive hug.

Hahahahhaha

Think against tall fighters both Klits are open to the uppercut, usually I'd say the first time Lewis lands one against Wlad it's all over.

But 10 years retired & 45 years old?

Seems a step too far & I hope he doesn't do it.

Would've been interesting to see who Manny Steward would've picked to train

Impossible to tell. We've no idea what kind of condition Lewis is in now.

Bloody hell he's 48 not 45, typo sorry

Seanusarrilius wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:No he'd get hammered...............Struggled with Vitali and would have lost a rematch......

add to that he hasn't fought in years.........

Got to be joking Mate.........

Vitali was far better than this Wlad. Lewis landed bombs on Vitali and one of theose would flatten Wald. Lewis doesn't have to be fit for twelve rounds, he gets it done inside 6 or not at all. Wlad relies almost exclusively on size and being able to get away with tricks that Lewis wouldn't let him get away with.

Tony Thompson gave Wlad trouble in their fights until he was stopped. Lewis pulls a Foreman via Moorer but earlier. Lewis KO in 4

Vitali is far better than Wlad.......

Are you wumming..........He is a face first plodder........His brother has the talent..

If he had a few warm ups fights to sharpen up his timing and punching and gain fitness he would have a good chance I think. It really hard to say without seeng what condition he is now. Id back George Foreman from the early 90s to KO both Klitschkos.

Lewis 4 -4 Wlad..........

you guys are something.............48 hasn't fought in ten years......gets back in the gym and beats a top 20 of alltime heavyweight......

this isn't Rocky 7 guys........

It's real life..........

Hold on -- is this a thinly veiled attempt to discredit Floyd Mayweather?

I see right through you.....

catchweight wrote:If he had a few warm ups fights to sharpen up his timing and punching and gain fitness he would have a good chance I think. It really hard to say without seeng what condition he is now. Id back George Foreman from the early 90s to KO both Klitschkos.

Like he knocked out Tommy Morrison?

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Lewis 4 -4 Wlad..........

you guys are something.............48 hasn't fought in ten years......gets back in the gym and beats a top 20 of alltime heavyweight......

this isn't Rocky 7 guys........

It's real life..........

You rate Wlad cause he has reigned for so long. You totally neglect how bad his opposition has been. He has zero, ZERO world class HW'a on his record.

Wlad may be top 20, Lewis is top 10.


Foreman was out for more.


Lewis by KO. Left, right, done.

And done

Got to say I am with Truss on this. People go on about Foreman but forget he took about 20 odd fights to blow the rust off before facing Moorer and even then it took a hail mary punch when a country mile behind on points to get the job done, and Wlad is no Moorer. He has sod all chance and is smart enough to know it, will stay happy and retired hopefully.

DynamiteChris wrote:Think against tall fighters both Klits are open to the uppercut, usually I'd say the first time Lewis lands one against Wlad it's all over.

But 10 years retired & 45 years old?

Seems a step too far & I hope he doesn't do it.

Would've been interesting to see who Manny Steward would've picked to train

David Price

Hammersmith harrier wrote:

catchweight wrote:If he had a few warm ups fights to sharpen up his timing and punching and gain fitness he would have a good chance I think. It really hard to say without seeng what condition he is now. Id back George Foreman from the early 90s to KO both Klitschkos.

Like he knocked out Tommy Morrison?

He lost to Morrison

 

Think you guys missed the sarcasm.....double  

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Think you guys missed the sarcasm.....double  

I didn't. I said doh because he missed the sarcasm.

I didnt miss any sarcasm.

Sure.

Sure for men.......

No I just think that when someone replies to your post with a sarcastic comment like that, it isnt worth giving a decent respnse. You should know Scottrf, it seems to be raison d'etre for being here.

Leave it for heaven sake ..........

Try and stick to the thread men. Your fascinating insight into the rules of sarcasm aside, this is a boxing forum

Seanusarrilius wrote:Try and stick to the thread men. Your fascinating insight into the rules of sarcasm aside, this is a boxing forum

 

catchweight wrote:No I just think that when someone replies to your post with a sarcastic comment like that, it isnt worth giving a decent respnse. You should know Scottrf, it seems to be raison d'etre for being here.

I need to keep you in check, without my posts you'd still think Lewis was about to fight Klitschko...

I know, Im so lucky to have you around.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Lewis 4 -4 Wlad..........

you guys are something.............48 hasn't fought in ten years......gets back in the gym and beats a top 20 of alltime heavyweight......

this isn't Rocky 7 guys........

It's real life..........

Absolutely spot on Truss,once your timings gone its gone and age isn't just a number in boxing,not even an argument.

Careful..You agree with me you become an alias........

Up to 13 and counting..........If only I could remember my password for Captain Carrot.......

I think anyone who picks lewis to win is not doing it because they genuinely believe lewis could win but because they dislike Wlad.

I'm not a fan CS and I pick Wlad easily........

Lewis didn't think he could beat his inferior brother at 38.......What chance has he got with Wlad at 48.......

This thread has made me doubt the judgement of some on here.

Of course he couldn't.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I'm not a fan CS and I pick Wlad easily........

Lewis didn't think he could beat his inferior brother at 38.......What chance has he got with Wlad at 48.......

That Vitali would have murdered any Wlad. Vitali has a chin, he took bombs from Lewis and gave bombs. Prime Vitali KO's prime Wlad.

And for the record, I am going for Lewis both because I like Lewis and dislike the most boring, huggging, leaning, throwing champ in the history of HW champs

That Vitali couldn't avoid a jab all night....

Leave it out.

Wlad will be intimidated by Lewis!!!!!! He'd know Lewis is a cagey canny operator and wonder what it is he still has in the tank to make him think he still has it in him to step into the ring. Wlad will also know that Lewis is the first genuine great that he's faced and there'll be nagging doubts in the back of his mind. He'll be concerned with "beating up a legend" and be reluctant to let his hands go (what's new there then) and instead resort to jabbing all night long (what's new there th..oh, I already did that one).

His reliance on the jab will leave Lewis free to get his right hand over the top and clean Wlad's clock.

Shame Lewis has admitted it was a wind-up and won't be coming out of retirement

Jeffries could not do it after six years, Ali could not do it after two, Holmes could not do it after three years, but Lewis after 10 years at a far more advanced age than any of those guys can do it.

I have some Enron shares going fairly cheap if anyone is interested.

DAVE667 wrote:Wlad will be intimidated by Lewis!!!!!! He'd know Lewis is a cagey canny operator and wonder what it is he still has in the tank to make him think he still has it in him to step into the ring. Wlad will also know that Lewis is the first genuine great that he's faced and there'll be nagging doubts in the back of his mind. He'll be concerned with "beating up a legend" and be reluctant to let his hands go (what's new there then) and instead resort to jabbing all night long (what's new there th..oh, I already did that one).

His reliance on the jab will leave Lewis free to get his right hand over the top and clean Wlad's clock.

Shame Lewis has admitted it was a wind-up and won't be coming out of retirement

 That's us, Dave. You and I.

Rowley wrote:Jeffries could not do it after six years, Ali could not do it after two, Holmes could not do it after three years, but Lewis after 10 years at a far more advanced age than any of those guys can do it.

I have some Enron shares going fairly cheap if anyone is interested.

Ali could not do it immediately after two, but let's not act like he did nothing after his lay off.


Lewis KO baby. It's only Wlad. Take away his size and he is nothing. Couldn't even KO Povetkin.

Take away his size and he is nothing............

They said the same about Jeffries...........

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Take away his size and he is nothing............

They said the same about Jeffries...........

It's true with Wlad.

He was awful on Saturday.

But you can't take away his size so it's frankly a ridiculous point. He is a fine boxer at the peak of his powers and Lewis is a 300lb 48 year old who has been out the ring for 10 years.

Clearly he is on the wind up, but it is absurd that people think he has a chance.

Seanusarrilius wrote:Ali could not do it immediately after two, but let's not act like he did nothing after his lay off.

I meant the Holmes fight Sean, to be honest it may not have been two years. His earlier comeback was a little different as age wise he was still positively a kid in comparison to Lennox.

I've got a feeling this is like syria....

Kerry: well i guess we wouldn't invade if they got rid of all there illegal biological weapons but that aint going to happen........ Oh balls...they are going to do it.

Lennox: Sure why not for $100 million heck i'm already in training lol.........oh balls they took me seriously

TBH he said this 5 years ago this isn't new news, its just the heavywieght boxing world is so lacking in talent we are looking backwards...just like bloomin rocky

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/columns/story?columnist=rafael_dan&id=3727811

Lewis can't possibly go 12 rounds with Wlad no matter how good he gets in shape. His reflexes are gone, his punch resistance would be zero, but he may still carry enough power to trouble Wlad.

All in all Wlad would win by early to mid stoppage.

Said it before its just free publicity for his new Academy, Lewis knows he cant come out of retirement aged 48 and 10 years out of the ring and expect to be competitive even with a turgid champion like Wlad all he would have is a punchers chance and a likely hood of a prolonged beating against someone really not fit to have him on their record.

Sorry, there's no way I can back a 48 year old guy who hasn't fought in years. The guy has been on a beach sipping cocktails for the best part too!

I'd be cheering for Lennox but Wlad would have too much for this sorry, faded (but rich) version.

The thing about boxers is that they genuinely believe they can still fight after that long out the game..for comparison just been looking at foremans record TBH he came back at 38 and got his eye back in for a couple of years fighting lower level guys but then kicked on.....what he did was remarkable !! still he seemed to be fighting to prove a point about age rather than one final last payout, so his heart was probably more there.

started in 1969 finally retired in 1997 !!!
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