HK Round 2 - Perpignan vs Edinburgh

Sunday 20th October
12:35pm KO UK time
Stade Aimé Giral, Perpignan

Perpignan  

Perpignan:

15 Joffrey Michel, 14 Watisoni Votu, 13 David Marty, 12 Sione Piukala, 11 Richard Haughton, 10 James Hook, 9 Dewaldt Duvenage, 8 Luke Narraway, 7 Jean-Pierre Perez, 6 Justin Purll, 5 Romain Taofifenua, 4 Sebastien Vahaamahina, 3 George Jgenti, 2 Guilhem Guirado (c), 1 Sona Taumalolo.

Replacements:

16 Romain Terrain, 17 Sebastien Taofifenua, 18 Kisi Pulu, 19 Karl Chateau, 20 Nicolas Durand, 21 Tommy Allan, 22 Wandile Mjekevu, 23 Luke Charteris.

Edinburgh  

15 Jack Cuthbert



14 Dougie Fife

13 Nick De Luca

12 Matt Scott

11 Tim Visser



10 Harry Leonard

9 Greig Laidlaw CAPTAIN



1 Alasdair Dickinson

2 Ross Ford

3 Willem Nel

4 Grant Gilchrist

5 Sean Cox

6 Cornell Du Preez

7 Roddy Grant

8 David Denton



Substitutes

16 Aleki Lutui

17 Wicus Blaauw

18 Geoff Cross

19 Izak van der Westhuizen

20 Tomas Leonardi

21 Sam Hidalgo-Clyne

22 Joaquin Dominguez

23 Greig Tonks

Some good pre-match reading from Edinburgh's defence coach - I really like this guy actually.  He's saying the right things and I think he's going to be a really good coach for this Edinburgh team

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/rugby/latest/mouneimne-fired-up-for-edinburgh-s-perpignan-trip-1-3142844

http://www.edinburghrugby.org/news/13/10/15/edinburgh-rugby-defence-coach-demands-more

p.s. I know this thread isn't as good as George Carlin's, but I've neither the time or enthusiasm to make it any better!

In terms of team selection, I think the starting XV against Munster all deserve to keep their places.  I’d hope we can strengthen the bench though, so if VDV and Tonks are fit I’d bring them in for Atkins and SHC.

This is going to be a brutal contest against Perpirgnan team that has to win to keep their HK hopes alive – looking forward to it!

Edinburgh need to throw the kitcken sink at Perpirgnan. If they cannot back up last weeks win with another then it will go down as one of those one off, punching above our weight performances!

To be fair, Edinburgh can win this! but it aint gonna be easy. If they play like they have been in the Rabo then it will be a sore one!

Fingers crossed i guess

Ah here, it's a cracking thread, RDW. I think it's like the best tasting meals are the ones you don't cook yourself.  

Sounds like the coaching staff are talking sense, which is of course exactly why they are there in the first place. I really hope for the sake of everyone associated with the club that they can back up the Munster performance with another win. Stopping Strokosch and Co will not be easy though.

GC, I read somewhere that USAP might rest a first first teamers (I think it was whocares who mentioned that on another thread?). I think that would be slightly odd given it is their home fixture, but you never know? Anyway, Stroks was one of the players specifically mentioned as being up for a 'rest', and there is a chance that Tommasso Allan will start at 10

every chance!

will give us a chance to see how he looks I suppose!

Can we not tell Strockosh to play badly or he is out of the Scotland squad?

I'm not overly worried about Strokosh - in Basalaia, Du Preez and Denton we've got a pretty physical backrow ourselves, if maybe lacking a bit in flair!

I'd be delighted if they rested their top players, but it would still be one of our best wins in recent years if we somehow beat them.

Chat is James Hook is struggling with injury, which is also beneficial for us.

It's a chance for Edinburgh to build on last weeks win over Munster.

I reckon Leonard needs to calm down and play some heads up rugby. We seemed determined to kick a lot of ball away against Munster.

They let us of the hook a few times when we were kicking when we should have been passing.

Strange to say it, but is it just me or did Jock Cuthbert look strangely competent and a little threatening against Munster?

Cuthbert did look decent if a bit slow. good positioning tho. Leonard did get a bit flustered - a young guy to be taking that responsibility

I claim full credit for Cuthbert's performance. I'd spent the previous week moaning about how useless he was to my dad and father in law, went to the game with both of them and he promptly made me look like a fool.

I actually spent slightly more time bitching about Atiga but we'll have to wait a bit for his good game. God knows we've been waiting long enough.

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:GC, I read somewhere that USAP might rest a first first teamers (I think it was whocares who mentioned that on another thread?).  I think that would be slightly odd given it is their home fixture, but you never know?    Anyway, Stroks was one of the players specifically mentioned as being up for a 'rest', and there is a chance that Tommasso Allan will start at 10

It is confirmed. They have to rest the 2 french internationals to comply with the FFR rules. Hook might start at 10 though depending of their options at fullback.

I’d be delighted if Perpignan rested players, the more the merrier as far as I’m concerned.

Whilst clearly I would be delighted if we got a win in this match, I’d probably take a narrow defeat at this stage, as long as we look like we’ve built on the performance from the weekend.

Also the game is being shown on Sport+, which I’m hoping suggests that there will be some way of watching it, for those who aren’t going.

Hook at 10? I would be happy with that as I think the edinburgh boys could get in his face and unsettle him and I don't rate him as a 10. although he did seem to have a very good game from full back last week

Weather forecast in Perpignan on Sunday - 22 degrees!  

Poor Edinbrugh players - they're going to be training in baltic conditions all week then will have to go out and play in the heat. Roddy Grant might self combust!

RDW_Scotland wrote:Weather forecast in Perpignan on Sunday - 22 degrees!  

Poor Edinbrugh players - they're going to be training in baltic conditions all week then will have to go out and play in the heat.  Roddy Grant might self combust!

No ginger jokes here please. GLove will be down on you like a ton of sunburned bricks.

Well I’ve slagged off Aberdeen on the other thread so just waiting for him to make a lego animation of me being spear tackled or something!

Some stats from the weekend -

Edinburgh had the best tackle to missed tackle % of the weekend - who would have guessed that before??

Cornell du preez made 18 tackles, missing none!

Watched a couple of YouTube interview with Omar M on the subject of Edinburgh's'defence and it was very interesting.

In particular, he said that if you don't have a session of taking almost full intensity match conflict mid-week, then mentally you are not prepared to feel the same pain on match days and statistically teams lapse in their defensive duties.

GC - not only did my thread get a slagging, but you obviously didn't read it - that interview is in my OP!  

Du Preez in the Herald this am saying he wants to stick around to qualify for Scotland. Good news i think

RDW_Scotland wrote:GC - not only did my thread get a slagging, but you obviously didn't read it - that interview is in my OP!  

No, I did read it and the link you provided caused me to look for others, which I found on the YouTubey.

George Carlin wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:GC - not only did my thread get a slagging, but you obviously didn't read it - that interview is in my OP!  

No, I did read it and the link you provided caused me to look for others, which I found on the YouTubey.

 

kiss and make up you pair!

and none of that man hug nonsense!

 

we want to see proper snogging

 

I prefer

now now. That should only be used when asbo goes on about how great Mark Bennett is!

tigertattie wrote:now now.  That should only be used when asbo goes on about how great Mark Bennett is!

I have allocated this one:  for those happy occasions.

no no no. That one is to be used when discussing Edinburgh's Rabo form!

tigertattie wrote:no no no.  That one is to be used when discussing Edinburgh's Rabo form!

 
Fine then:

tigertattie wrote:now now.  That should only be used when asbo goes on about how great Mark Bennett is!

Or independence.... 

I always like this one for when Schiz talked about AR, or when FES got wound up about the messiah

lol.  I like the one blowing up!

anyway! should we go back to talking about rugby???

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:

I always like this one for when Schiz talked about AR, or when FES got wound up about the messiah

fES get wound up?!?! About ?? Surely not  

 

Where is the Stockbridge massif posh boy these days anyhew?

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:

I always like this one for when Schiz talked about AR, or when FES got wound up about the messiah

fES get wound up?!?!  About ??   Surely not  

 

Where is the Stockbridge massif posh boy these days anyhew?

He is on a burgundy corduroy buying trip.

cakeordeath wrote:

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:

I always like this one for when Schiz talked about AR, or when FES got wound up about the messiah

fES get wound up?!?!  About ??   Surely not  

 

Where is the Stockbridge massif posh boy these days anyhew?

He is on a burgundy corduroy buying trip.

A-ha, the annual trip to Harrods - such variety compared to Jenners, eh?

Admittedly, I prefer 'Harrods' to 'Rhona &Shona's Trouser, Knife and Needle Emporium' over which sits my flat.

Even Glasgow has it's dark spots...

Perpignan only came 7th in the T14 so only got in based on a T14 HC winner. I think this could be the last game they try in. If they lose they are out and finishing Top 6 is hard enough for them.

Think it will be an open game, but tough to call, as Edinbrugh are mainly the same team that got to the semi's so they will probably use that as motive more than league.

From the supporters site and confirmed by the USAP news that James Hooks' "béquille mollet droit" (calf strain) is not serious and probably will play. There was a lot of talk last week of Tommaso Allan maybe starting at 10 with Hook at 15 and taking the dead ball opportunities, however it all seems a tad quiet this week on that front. Looks like Charteris will start and Stroko will as well if the chit chat is accurate over there.
 
I am quietly confident going into this, I feel this match could well be the turning point in our season.

 

I've always thought that James Hook was a bit of un grand chemisier d'une femme.

We'd need the entire computing power available at CERN to calculate the number of false dawns we've had in Scottish rugby, so call me negative but I'm holding out from too much expectation yet!

RDW_Scotland wrote:We'd need the entire computing power available at CERN to calculate the number of false dawns we've had in Scottish rugby, so call me negative but I'm holding out from too much expectation yet!

 
I am twice your age I have had to go through twice as many as you..... YAY WE HAVE TURNED THE CORNER! ....... COME ON HOW LONG DOES THIS CORNER TAKE!?  
 
On a lighter note: I have just noticed that you have reached the 6,000 milestone     

RDW_Scotland wrote:We'd need the entire computing power available at CERN to calculate the number of false dawns we've had in Scottish rugby, so call me negative but I'm holding out from too much expectation yet!

6,000 POSTS:

Holy feck - had no idea! Don't know if that's something to be proud of or not....!

And what an exciting post for it to be!

Edinburgh Rugby team to play Perpignan at the Stade Aimé Giral on Sunday 20 October (kick-off 1.45pm local time)

15 Jack Cuthbert



14 Dougie Fife

13 Nick De Luca

12 Matt Scott

11 Tim Visser



10 Harry Leonard

9 Greig Laidlaw CAPTAIN



1 Alasdair Dickinson

2 Ross Ford

3 Willem Nel

4 Grant Gilchrist

5 Sean Cox

6 Cornell Du Preez

7 Roddy Grant

8 David Denton



Substitutes

16 Aleki Lutui

17 Wicus Blaauw

18 Geoff Cross

19 Izak van der Westhuizen

20 Tomas Leonardi

21 Sam Hidalgo-Clyne

22 Joaquin Dominguez

23 Greig Tonks

Also worth pointing out the game is 12.45pm UK time, so no one misses it (on the dodgy internet stream)

USAP: Joffrey Michel Watisoni Votu David Marty Sione Piukala Richard Haughton James Hook Dewaldt Duvenage Sona Taumalolo Guilhem Guirado (capt) George Jgenti Sebastien Vahaamahina Romain Taofifenua Justin Purll Jean-Pierre Perez Luke Narraway Replacements: Romain Terrain Sebastien Taofifenua Kisi Pulu Karl Chateau Nicolas Durand Tommy Allan Wandile Mjekevu Luke Charteris

Thanks ASBO.

So looks like Hook at 10 and Tommaso on the bench. Haven't really got a clue who most of those players are, but they are Perpignan so must be good!

quite a strong front 5 from Perpignan...as for 6 to 15 I have my doubts...

Do elaborate....

Votu - Fijian 7s player, still learning at XVs; Haughton - Wasps let him go; Hook - has never convinced Welsh fans at 10