Barclays Premier League 13/14 Thread

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Swansea 3-2 Stoke

What has happened to Stoke's defence

[Champagne_Socialist]

Arsenal I think should go in for Lewandoswki in January, if they have another £30 million or so to spare.
I mean will Dortmund want to sell again to Munich?

I hear that Arsene is going to snatch Benzema because Madrid want to sell him for a bargain and go for Suarez. In this way they keep Arsenal from bidding up Suarez's price and send away a player who has not played his best football in recent times at Madrid. From my understanding Benzema could go for 50-60 percent of the price of Lewandowski.

So madrid will pay arsenal then because I am sure Lewandowski is going on a free transfer

[westisbest]

Right, i'm going for a 3-1 villa win tonight, sod it.

Weimann
Tekkers
And another top draw free kick from Bacuna.

[Fernando]

Arsenal I think should go in for Lewandoswki in January, if they have another £30 million or so to spare.
I mean will Dortmund want to sell again to Munich?

I hear that Arsene is going to snatch Benzema because Madrid want to sell him for a bargain and go for Suarez. In this way they keep Arsenal from bidding up Suarez's price and send away a player who has not played his best football in recent times at Madrid. From my understanding Benzema could go for 50-60 percent of the price of Lewandowski.

So madrid will pay arsenal then because I am sure Lewandowski is going on a free transfer

I wouldn't count on that CS, He was fairly confident of moving to Bayern but has seemed to be backing away from that recently and opened himself to a PL Switch, Were rumors going around that Chelsea & Citeh had been in touch. Benzema wise was a rumor that they would take 20-25m for him seems to be getting back to better form recently

[socal1976]

Arsenal I think should go in for Lewandoswki in January, if they have another £30 million or so to spare.
I mean will Dortmund want to sell again to Munich?

I hear that Arsene is going to snatch Benzema because Madrid want to sell him for a bargain and go for Suarez. In this way they keep Arsenal from bidding up Suarez's price and send away a player who has not played his best football in recent times at Madrid. From my understanding Benzema could go for 50-60 percent of the price of Lewandowski.

So madrid will pay arsenal then because I am sure Lewandowski is going on a free transfer

I thought if they waited till the summer he would go on the free, can't they sell him still in january and get something for him?

[TopHat24/7]

Its swings and roundabouts though, you cant lament one decision and then ignore and even more blatant one. Who is showing unfair intent towards one side now? I will happily compare them as they are singular decisions. You cant predict what happens next can you, really. United may have gone into their shell, come out to hold a tight game, nicked it with Welbeck and Hernandez up the field and taken a hard fought 1-0.

Personally, I agree with Malky Mackay. I think it was a flick out rather than an awful kick and I praise the referee for not falling into this trap that everything that happens in football has to be sensationalised. I could see why you'd give it, but its so much of a nothing really. He saw it, he punished it in a way he thought necessary.

I think theres more going on here that is unnecessary Manchester United sentiment than any ref favouring them.

Rooney was the only player in attack for United doing anything, without him today they were done and dusted. They drew the match with Rooney and 11 men, the way the rest of the team was playing done to 10 men that early on they most likely lose this game. Anyway it goes beyond this match he should be on suspension next week. Not only did the ref help united to undeserved points in this match, they helped United out next week as well.

Baloney.

On the balance of play a draw was maybe just about right.  So no 'undeserved points'.

And re ref help, if it wasn't for a generous ref Medel would've been sent off and United given a free kick in their own area rather than Cardiff being allowed to whip a second ball in which got them the equaliser.

Again they wouldn't need a late equalizer if the guy who scored and assisted United's two goals had been properly sent off in 10th minute.

Otherwise known as swings n roundabouts....

[Dolphin Ziggler]

The main problem with the above is that just deciding something wont happen cos something else is nonsense. Every other Man United player could have then whipped their cocks out and the game been abandoned after Rooney's red. But we'll just never know

[socal1976]

The main problem with the above is that just deciding something wont happen cos something else is nonsense. Every other Man United player could have then whipped their cocks out and the game been abandoned after Rooney's red. But we'll just never know

Please my granny and her Rummy club could have whipped the ten men United minus their only offensive threat, and with Cardiff being at home no less. The rest of them looked plain awful all match and pretty much all of this season. No RVP, No Rooney, and down to 10 men on the road with 80 minutes to play, yeah I am sure they would have done just fine.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Its just a nonsense though isnt it? You dont know any of that. How can you lambaste an official for not sending off Rooney but not care about Medel? It's because of who the club were, plain and simple. One was far more awful an act than the other, and it wasn't by the English striker.

I've seen strong teams dig deep and hold a solid shape with 10 men before, you havent watched much football if you havent. So yeah, I wouldnt say it was a given at all.

[Stella]

I agree in that Utd coud still have won, but he really should have been off. I saw the wes brown for the first time earlier, and agree with most, and that it was a howler of a decision.

[Ent]

Whilst Rooney should have been sent off I do find it strange when teams moan about red cards in innocuous situations/positions on the pitch.

Yes players shouldn't be able to kick others but at the end of the day the game is 11 vs 11 and you shouldn't have to rely on an opponent being sent off to get a result.

Might be an awkward view but I only want to see players sent off for persistent cheating and deliberate violence (to protect the other players). Even bad Challenges in my view could be dealt with in a suspension after the game.

[Guest]

What a touch n goal from Long.

[westisbest]

Sh1t

[Fernando]

Sh2t  

[JamesLincs]

that is class

[Guest]

Hope WBA don't play like this next Saturday. Shocking from Villa.

EPL = GOALS, GOALS & GOALS! Apart from the first two months  

[westisbest]

Sh2t  

Ha ha,good one:

[Fernando]

Sh2t  

Ha ha,good one:

I wouldn't worry Westy, Can't get as bad as Spurs yesterday.   That being said it should be 3-0

[westisbest]

Our midield is so poor.

Defence same old.

[westisbest]

Deplh, , Gabby and Weimann on second half.

Take off , KEA, Westwood Tonev.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Id like to see a list of strikers bought by Lambert, I imagine his hit rate is good.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

He somehow got Steve Morison to score 10 goals in a Premier League season

[westisbest]

Get in. Now lets finish these clowns off.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Paul Lambert     

[socal1976]

What a great match. The first strike by long and his first touch was incredible and Villa's second was just as good if not better. Both are goal of the week candidates.

[socal1976]

Whilst Rooney should have been sent off I do find it strange when teams moan about red cards in innocuous situations/positions on the pitch.

Yes players shouldn't be able to kick others but at the end of the day the game is 11 vs 11 and you shouldn't have to rely on an opponent being sent off to get a result.

Might be an awkward view but I only want to see players sent off for persistent cheating and deliberate violence (to protect the other players). Even bad Challenges in my view could be dealt with in a suspension after the game.

Deliberate violence, do you mean like punching, kicking, and then launching your sumo wrestler ass on top of a player while he is running without the ball; are you suggesting Rooney's actions were inadvertent? Was he trying to give him a massage or was that deliberate violence? I wouldn't want Wayno "pudding and pie" launching his full weight on top of me while he is at a dead sprint. What I find even more offensive is that on the ground he was yelling and protesting at the refs and asking for the foul against his opponent who did nothing to him, and complained when the official did exactly nothing to him and gave him and his team a huge break. Rooney should be on a suspension United's point against Cardiff is tainted and any points they get next week is also is down to official incompetence or ManU mystique or what have you. The ref big upped United not only in that game but the following week as well.

Everyone in England coddles Rooney, I can't wait for him to do something like that in a big international game like the WC or Euros and watch his fat body sent to the showers early and watch him knock England out of a major competition. If anyone needs discipline it is this lout, his stupidity may not cost him domestically because apparently ManU players don't get redcarded in the EPL; but internationally he will cost his team at some point in a major competition.

[kingraf]

This is like the time everyone thought Ronaldo was an A-hole because he pointed out that Rooney stomped Carvalho's nuts.

[hampo17]

Whilst Rooney should have been sent off I do find it strange when teams moan about red cards in innocuous situations/positions on the pitch.

Yes players shouldn't be able to kick others but at the end of the day the game is 11 vs 11 and you shouldn't have to rely on an opponent being sent off to get a result.

Might be an awkward view but I only want to see players sent off for persistent cheating and deliberate violence (to protect the other players). Even bad Challenges in my view could be dealt with in a suspension after the game.

It's not an awkard view Ent, it's a strange and crazy view. If a player makes a bad tackle and get's let off what's to stop him, or any of the other players making the same kind of tackle?

Rooney should have gone on Sunday, had that been a cardiff player he would of walked. Gary Neville even said it on commentary. Rooney has gone on to have a major influence on the game by scoring and assisting the goals, and while Cardiff didn't exactly struggle in the game I'm sure they're a little annoyed that a player who shouldn't be on them pitch has had such a large influence.

[compelling and rich]

This is like the time everyone thought Ronaldo was an A-hole because he pointed out that Rooney stomped Carvalho's nuts.

dont forget he winked! what a nasty vile man for winking! how dare he!

[Ent]

Whilst Rooney should have been sent off I do find it strange when teams moan about red cards in innocuous situations/positions on the pitch.

Yes players shouldn't be able to kick others but at the end of the day the game is 11 vs 11 and you shouldn't have to rely on an opponent being sent off to get a result.

Might be an awkward view but I only want to see players sent off for persistent cheating and deliberate violence (to protect the other players). Even bad Challenges in my view could be dealt with in a suspension after the game.

It's not an awkard view Ent, it's a strange and crazy view. If a player makes a bad tackle and get's let off what's to stop him, or any of the other players making the same kind of tackle?

Rooney should have gone on Sunday, had that been a cardiff player he would of walked. Gary Neville even said it on commentary. Rooney has gone on to have a major influence on the game by scoring and assisting the goals, and while Cardiff didn't exactly struggle in the game I'm sure they're a little annoyed that a player who shouldn't be on them pitch has had such a large influence.

Yeah but what's to stop them ever making another bad tackle? Why let them play again ever? Besides players get yellow cards and know they can't make another foul challenge.

Yes Rooney should have been sent off for violent conduct but I don't see why palace are complaining so much, they would have expected him to be on for 90 minutes and have an impact given his form. Was their plan for him to hope he did something stupid and get sent off.

Too many people are sent off in the modern game, it's meant to be 11 vs 11.

Broadly speaking cheating and violence should be the only cause to remove a player from the field of play in my opinion.

Granted footballers being footballers it mightn't work but in an ideal world I'd like to see most games finish with 11 men.

[mystiroakey]

I don't see why palace are complaining so much

Too many people are sent off in the modern game, it's meant to be 11 vs 11.

PALACE!!


Yes we should be complaining more- but that was due to our player being incorrectly sent off and you getting an undeserved penalty!!

The irony !

[Ent]

Mistake apologies.

Cardiff of course.

Bolasie is the type of thing I'd let slide, nasty contact but just a forward coming out of several tussles trying to get the ball. Current rules it's a red mind.

[Ent]

Also apparently a load of tweets wanting Shane long called up for England last night, he has 40 odd caps for Ireland and scored against England last year lol.

[mystiroakey]

I was actually talking about the Palace game v man united....

Care to talk about that one?

[Guest]

Also apparently a load of tweets wanting Shane long called up for England last night, he has 40 odd caps for Ireland and scored against England last year lol.

 

Couple of class goals & he's now world class, right? He could of been playing for Hull right now.....

[TopHat24/7]

Its just a nonsense though isnt it? You dont know any of that. How can you lambaste an official for not sending off Rooney but not care about Medel? It's because of who the club were, plain and simple. One was far more awful an act than the other, and it wasn't by the English striker.

I've seen strong teams dig deep and hold a solid shape with 10 men before, you havent watched much football if you havent. So yeah, I wouldnt say it was a given at all.

Exactly, Socal plays right into exactly what the "Do people really hate United" thread is saying.

[Ent]

Was more the nationality misidentity I was laughing at.

Decisions go for and against teams - would have to watch the palace game again, can't even remember the incidents.

[mystiroakey]

well tbh the majority of Irish players are English and I am sure long is as well.

But yeah it is pretty hilarious considering he has actually played against us!

Your player dived outside the box, ours got sent off and you got a penalty.

[Guest]

Was more the nationality misidentity I was laughing at

Yeah I know. I've just read a few though & people do get rather carried away after one standout performance. I'm sure Mike Williamson will have him in his pocket next Saturday night.

[westisbest]

On his day he is a quality player.

Showed last night(sadly) what he is capable of.

He's just one of these players who does'nt do it enough.

He is a top bloke(met him in brum 2 years ago).

Wait.......... no...........sorry, scored 2 goals against us last night, thats bad, but even worse, he still owes me a pint, son of a............

[Ent]

Most Irish players are Irish to be fair.

Swings and round abouts, all clubs get good and bad decisions.

United have been one of the most heavily punished clubs by the fa over the last 20 years- I don't get where this favouritism nonsense comes from.

[westisbest]

Most Irish players are Irish to be fair.

Swings and round abouts, all clubs get good and bad decisions.

United have been one of the most heavily punished clubs by the fa over the last 20 years- I don't get where this favouritism nonsense comes from.

True, gone are the days of say the USA world Cup 94 squad as an example of alot of 'english' players in the squad.

Still get a few now, but hell every country has 'foreign' players playing for them, actually with the exception of England.

[Stella]

Long always looks neat and tidy, but doesn't score enough. Great couple of goals last night, mind.

[socal1976]

Whilst Rooney should have been sent off I do find it strange when teams moan about red cards in innocuous situations/positions on the pitch.

Yes players shouldn't be able to kick others but at the end of the day the game is 11 vs 11 and you shouldn't have to rely on an opponent being sent off to get a result.

Might be an awkward view but I only want to see players sent off for persistent cheating and deliberate violence (to protect the other players). Even bad Challenges in my view could be dealt with in a suspension after the game.

It's not an awkard view Ent, it's a strange and crazy view. If a player makes a bad tackle and get's let off what's to stop him, or any of the other players making the same kind of tackle?

Rooney should have gone on Sunday, had that been a cardiff player he would of walked. Gary Neville even said it on commentary. Rooney has gone on to have a major influence on the game by scoring and assisting the goals, and while Cardiff didn't exactly struggle in the game I'm sure they're a little annoyed that a player who shouldn't be on them pitch has had such a large influence.

Exactly, Wayne Rooney has run of the league, you can't call a foul on this guy without him telling the official to F--off. And his actions were dangerous the fact that he didn't make clean contact and hurt the guy on his multiple attempts to hit him is down to luck, if you look at his face he looks as deranged as Anthony Perkins wearing a woman's wig and hacking away with a butcher knife in a shower. And then after getting the deal of the century from the ref he is still cursing and yelling when he gets whistled for the foul. Interestingly, ARsenal have two highly questionable red cards this year and United had the most obvious and glaring red card of the season go unpunished, and they will reap the rewards in both the Cardiff match and next week as well.

[TopHat24/7]

Whilst Rooney should have been sent off I do find it strange when teams moan about red cards in innocuous situations/positions on the pitch.

Yes players shouldn't be able to kick others but at the end of the day the game is 11 vs 11 and you shouldn't have to rely on an opponent being sent off to get a result.

Might be an awkward view but I only want to see players sent off for persistent cheating and deliberate violence (to protect the other players). Even bad Challenges in my view could be dealt with in a suspension after the game.

It's not an awkard view Ent, it's a strange and crazy view. If a player makes a bad tackle and get's let off what's to stop him, or any of the other players making the same kind of tackle?

Rooney should have gone on Sunday, had that been a cardiff player he would of walked. Gary Neville even said it on commentary. Rooney has gone on to have a major influence on the game by scoring and assisting the goals, and while Cardiff didn't exactly struggle in the game I'm sure they're a little annoyed that a player who shouldn't be on them pitch has had such a large influence.

Exactly, Wayne Rooney has run of the league, you can't call a foul on this guy without him telling the official to F--off. And his actions were dangerous the fact that he didn't make clean contact and hurt the guy on his multiple attempts to hit him is down to luck, if you look at his face he looks as deranged as Anthony Perkins wearing a woman's wig and hacking away with a butcher knife in a shower. And then after getting the deal of the century from the ref he is still cursing and yelling when he gets whistled for the foul. Interestingly, ARsenal have two highly questionable red cards this year and United had the most obvious and glaring red card of the season go unpunished, and they will reap the rewards in both the Cardiff match and next week as well.

Yeh, because Rooney is the only player to swear at refs

Remember back to when ref mic's were first trialled in the EPL? I.e. like the ones that work fine in rugby.

First game, David Ellery makes a decision against Arsenal and Tony Adams promptly runs up to him and tells him the F*** OFF!!

Trial ended overnight...

[socal1976]

No but he is the guy who does it most glaringly and on pretty much every foul and even after he gets the deal of the century he is still complaining. They should card anyone who curses the official in that manner and stop this conduct. Rooney is the John wayne Gacy level serial offender
of this rule.

[socal1976]

“Just watched game back,” Rooney said in a series of messages on Twitter late last night. “I agree mine was bad tackle and ref dealt with it. And Martin Tyler didn’t shut up about it all game.
“Then someone slaps someone in face and he doesn’t speak a word about it. I like Martin but that’s poor from him.
“Sourness [sic] the rules are u kick out u should be off. Souness Medel gives left hook he’s done his job. Haha brilliant. Sourness was sarcastic for everyone biting.”

Wayne Rooney and his sense of false victimization continued. Yes Mendel being sent of in the 90th after Rooney scores and assists United only goals is a fair exchange. And why is everyone looking at him they should be mad at Mendel. And what right does Souness have in giving his opinion, when Wayne Rooney disagrees with that opinion. By the way I read malky's supposed defense of the play and it was not much of a defense saying he did not see the play clearly and that "maybe" a yellow was appropriate, but that lukewarm non-defense in headlines around Britain is made out to be Wayne Rooney's exoneration. The sense of victimhood by this spoiled and undisciplined brat is the most irritating thing about him.

[HM Murdock]

I love the idea of an instant yellow card for swearing at the ref, like gets given in rugby. It would be carnage for a few weeks but the players would soon get used to it. I mean come on, they rigidly enforce yellow cards for taking a shirt off, but insulting a match official gets tolerated?

I also think that anyone who says "to be fair" in an interview should get a three match ban.

[Ent]

Rooney is high profile and has the camera on him a lot, loads of players swear - it doesn't really bother me.

Big England players always get treated well, remember shearer kicking Neil Lennon in the head. He threatened to quit international football if he was banned and the fa just left it.

[Champagne_Socialist]

I love the idea of an instant yellow card for swearing at the ref, like gets given in rugby. It would be carnage for a few weeks but the players would soon get used to it. I mean come on, [b]they rigidly enforce yellow cards for taking a shirt off, [/b]but insulting a match official gets tolerated?

I also think that anyone who says "to be fair" in an interview should get a three match ban.

all to do with money. when a player scores the camera zooms in on him and the teams sponsorship on his shirt is shown to the camera. If the player takes off his top the spnsorship logo is hidden.

[HM Murdock]

Big England players always get treated well, remember shearer kicking Neil Lennon in the head. He threatened to quit international football if he was banned and the fa just left it.

That was disgraceful. Even now it bugs me to see Shearer pontificating on MOTD as if he can be on a moral high ground.

If it weren't for FIFA, the FA would be the world's most incompetent organisation.

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