Leicester Tigers 2012/13

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Injuries:

Brian Mujati - Returns AP 19 (Sold)
Jonny Wilkinson - Returns HC QF
Dominic Waldouck - Returns AP 20
Kurtley Beale - Returns AP 21
Andrew Sheridan - Returns HC SF
Francois Louw - Returns AP 22
Ugo Monye - Returns AP SF
Michael Claassens - Returns HC F (Sold)

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The Squad (40/40):

Forwards:

Front Row:
Andrew Sheridan (LH) (ENG)
Gethin Jenkins (LH) (WAL)
Yannick Forestier (LH) (FRA)

Stephen Moore (HK) (AUS)
Tom Youngs (HK) (ENG)
Sebastian Bruno (HK) (FRA)

Dan Cole (TH) (ENG)
Cencus Johnston (TH) (SAM)
Craig Mitchell (TH) (WAL)

Lock:
James Horwill (AUS)
Pascal Papé (FRA)
Geoff Parling (ENG)
Nathan Hines (SCO)
Simon Shaw (ENG)
Romain Taofifenua (FRA)

Back Row:
Sean O'Brien (BS/N8/OS) (IRE)
Francois Louw (BS/OS) (RSA)
Ernst Joubert (N8) (ENG)
Ryan Jones (N8/BS/LK) (WAL)
Steve Mafi (BS/LK) (TON)
Jacques Burger (OS/BS) (NAM)
Roger Wilson (N8) (IRE)
James Scaysbrook (OS/BS) (ENG)


Backs:

Scrum Half:
Dimitri Yachvili (FRA)
Eoin Reddan (IRE)
Micky Young (ENG)

Fly Half:
Jonny Wilkinson (ENG)
Frederic Michalak (FRA)
Rory Clegg (ENG)

Centre:
Brian O'Driscoll (OC) (IRE)
Maxime Mermoz (IC/OC) (FRA)
Billy Twelvetrees (IC/FH) (ENG)
Dominic Waldouck (OC/IC) (ENG)
Paul Jordaan (OC/IC/WG) (RSA)
Josh Matavesi (IC/FH/FB) (FIJ)

Back Three:
Kurtley Beale (FB/FH) (AUS)
Vincent Clerc (WG) (FRA)
Isa Nacewa (FB/WG/FH) (FIJ)
Ugo Monye (WG) (ENG)
Drew Mitchell (WG) (AUS)
Rene Ranger (WG/OC) (NZL)
Clement Poitrenaud (FB) (FRA)
Paul Sackey (WG) (ENG)

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The Academy (19/20):

HK Jimmy Stevens - 27/01/1991
PR Lee Imiolek - 21/09/1990
PR Jonny Harris - 15/01/1991
PR Ryan Bower - 25/02/1991
PR Jared Saunders - 18/09/1990
SR Romain Taofifenua - 14/09/1990
SR Tom Price - 22/01/1993
SR Rob Conquest - 09/09/1990
FL Matt Everard - 09/01/1991
FL Tom Armes - 19/09/1990
N8 Edwin Maka - 25/02/1993

FH Rory Lyn - 12/12/1992
CE Joe Cobden - 01/09/1991
CE Josh Matavesi - 05/10/1990
CE Francois Venter - 19/04/1991
CE Paul Jordaan -04/01/1992
WG Josh Bassett - 17/03/1992
FB Alex Lewington - 20/09/1991

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Transfers:

Pretorious + Hipkiss for Mears + Cusiter
Vermeulen for Barclay
Scaysbrook - £6m
Burger + Monye + Claasens for Poff + Ojo + Manoa + Hipkiss
Saunders - £2m
Fuimaono-Sapolu for Nalaga
Matavesi for Juazion
Ranger for Vermeulen
Mujati + Louw + Clegg for Franks + Fritz + Biggs
Shaw - £3m
du Toit - £10m
Shipperley - £10m
Hargreaves - £18m
Beale + O'Brien for Jane + Pocock
Venter - £10m
Jordaan - £10m
Taofifenua - £10m
Bassett - £15m
Maka - £8m
Hudson Tonga’uiha
Mermoz + Waldouck for Miller + Laulala + £5m
Michalak - £22m
Parling for Croft
Mafi + Wilson for Hargreaves + Crane + James
Sackey - £1m
Mitchell for Shipperley
Imiolek - £2m
PSDT - £12m
Pretorius - £1m
Forestier - £17.75m
Reddan + Mitchell for Claasens + Mujati
R.Jones for Waldom

Welcome mate, good to have you here.

Be interested in Evans, Conrad, Steffon and Garvey.

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For Evans I'd need JW10, and a little gain.
Can't really sell Conrad or Steffon.
Garvey can leave - would need one of your locks (Pape/Horwill) as I lose EQ.

I'm keen on Mermoz - see anything?

Any deals for Dan Cole, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Francois louw, Ernst Joubert, Francois venter, Paul Jordaan?

Michalek is a great player, but can be hit and miss and I'm really happy with Hernandez at no10 - he got in quite a few team of the weeks during the RC as no10. Got my eye on a no10 in the next transfer window too.

Only way to lose Mermoz would be with Smith in the deal, which would basically see us swapping centre combos. Could use Hines for Garvey?

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Wouldn't be keen on losing Garvey for a non-EQ mate.

Nonu is available if the price is right. I'd need a replacement centre and a gain elsewhere, as looking at your squad getting Nonu could hand you the title.

What about Mermoz and Monye for Nonu?

I'm not too interested in losing Brown mate.

Would need SOB and a gain

What for 36 and Clerc mate?

I couldnt lose any of those players until the end of the season, but if I sell them willmake sure I let you know first.

Pape + BOD + Waldrom
For
Garvey + Smith + Spies?

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No mate, not keen on that.

Not 100% sure yet fella , just getting a feel for the squad.

There are some obvious untouchables but most players will have a price.

He's def not for sale mate , best player in the world for me.

AAC could leave but would need to be a biggy.

Interested in Youngs , Cole , BOD and Beale

Can't really see a deal with BOD not having long left in him and Masoe is a rockstar in the Toulon back row whilst Wilson is on bench for Ulster.

Would need Tom Youngs in it.

I can't lose Best fella , blokes nailed on as Lions 2 for me. Maybe loose Creevy but upsets my SH/NH balance.

Any deal floating about for Louw?

Bruss + ?

for

Louw

Need one of Sheridan, Hines, Horwill or Mermoz involved.

Struggling with that as a straight swap and not really sure what to suggest. Anyone else on the list I posted take your fancy and if so we could put something together.

No value in Waldrom for me mate, as have 3 number 8's already and Tualava is EQ and does the same carrying job as Waldrom really. Think we could be struggling here.

Need the + to be a 12 really, so would have to be Twelvetrees or Mermoz.

Fair offer mate, just not seeing it improving Irish as much as it improves you really.

As I did with the Saracens offers to Irish I shall run yours by one of the other managers to see what we can do, as there is a bit of value in it. Will get back to you.

Sorry mate, having discussed your offer with another manager, I'm going to have to decline it.

Jordaan and du toit. ? What for

Sorry Luke think my young lads more proven than yours

Ie Goosen Scott +Etzbeth full internationals and in etzbeths case seen as best in world.

Was looking more at my young lads like tufungisi, addendorf etc. top lads you have their though

Agree jordaan looks best currently but easier as a back . Think du toit could be all that

Rare you get a player like Etzbeth who is a monster instantly du toit spoken of as similar talent but completely different player.

Tufungisi for me is seen as best ab prop of a generation however potential and reality are different things

What for Shipperly mate?

LukeLovesLuka wrote:All available at Tigers....EQ needs EQ in deal, academy needs academy.

James Scaysbrook (OS/BS) (ENG)
Michael Claasens (RSA)
Rory Clegg (ENG)
Dominic Waldouck (OC/IC) (ENG)
Rene Ranger (WG/OC) (NZL)
Clement Poitrenaud (FB) (FRA)

Josh Matavesi (IC/FH/FB) (FIJ)
Dom Shipperley (WG) (AUS)

Interested in these lads, mate.

Straight swap for Mitchell?

Did you find the Saxons game?

Tom palmer and Sharples for cole ?

Interested in...

Pieter-Steph du Toit (RSA)
Paul Jordaan (OC/IC/WG) (RSA)
Dom Shipperley (WG) (AUS)

Define big. Give me names and we'll see what we can do.

Think we're dead in the water then mate. Neither PSDT not Jordaan are internationals, and PSDT isn't even a guaranteed starter for the Sharks. Tolofua and Farrell are full internationals, and I can't lose Kitschoff as I only have two senior looseheads.

Appreciate that Shipperly is capped, but he's about 6th or 7th choice wing and got capped in an injury crisis. Farrell is arguably 1st choice 10 for England and Tolofua probably 3rd choice for France. I don't see them as being the same level mate. Not a problem, I'll stick with the guys I've got.

As I said mate, we're obviously on different pages with how we're looking at these players, it's no drama.

I'm in for Jordaan and du Toit.

I can involve Jackson in a deal mate.

If you are still after cash mate I'd pay 12 mil for Piter Steph Du Toit

offer stands but will likely bid on someone in next day or two if you haven't decided. Especially if someone goes after a target of mine

Any further thoughts on PSDT?

What for Tom Youngs Luke?

Yeah it's a bummer ,

Luke Cowen Dickie not be involved?

He's been hooking for Exeter and they see his long term there.

No worries , just need a EQ hooker now!

Tough times to be a EQ hooker. might have to sign myself from nationals at this rate lol.

Lol , getting drunken abuse at 3am now haha.

I'm trying to bolster the EQ in the spine of my team mainly at 2 and 8. Happy with Youngs , Flood and Goode and having Croft at 6 means less emphesis on me playing a lineout forward at 5.

I thought I'd submitted it! Must have typed it out then not entered or something. Not got time to submit it in format till later but will be:

Woodcock, Brits, Afoa, Botha, Borthwick, Kruis, Hooper, Easter, Dickson, Burns, Guildford, Faainga, Joseph, Morahan, Taylor

Buchanan, Crockett, Franks, Gaskell, Warburton, Dickson, Cooper, Smith

hello mate

what for waldrom, hines, 12T, monye, joubert, wilkinson, michalak

anything be done?

not really keen on letting lambie go mate.

I like Michalak but as he only seems to play 9 for Toulon and isnt playing well for France I dont think he will get rated for me so wouldnt want him in a deal for Lambie. Would have to be Wilkinson.

Likewise really mate lambie is quality. What u thinking?