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by thespreys Wed 01 Jan 2014, 7:56 pm
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How can Dragons sign Sam Lewis from Ospreys on 2 year deal when nobody knows if there are going to be any regions at end of season.I smell a rat seems like some sort of underhanded deal has been done with WRU,
How can Dragons sign Sam Lewis from Ospreys on 2 year deal when nobody knows if there are going to be any regions at end of season.I smell a rat seems like some sort of underhanded deal has been done with WRU,
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Re: NEW SIGNINGS
by munkian Fri 03 Jan 2014, 2:16 pm
Although it does say 'signed a new deal' on the Dragon's website too.
The whole 'playing for my HOME region' is a cheap way of unburning bridges
The whole 'playing for my HOME region' is a cheap way of unburning bridges
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Re: NEW SIGNINGS
by wayne Fri 03 Jan 2014, 2:35 pm
This is like the Jonno Gibbes story and Lynn was involved in that as well, it was obviously a VERBAL agreement until the Os found out, and he wanted to stay with the Region who found him and made him into the player we see today
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Re: NEW SIGNINGS
by dragon999 Fri 03 Jan 2014, 2:40 pm
Dragons website says signed a two year contract - i suspect he just changed his mind & the Dragons (benevolently) said ok,your bad,we'll deal with it.Bit of a bummer mind,gonna be a good player!
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Re: NEW SIGNINGS
by munkian Fri 03 Jan 2014, 2:47 pm
Lucky we have plenty of backrow players - he'll just be Tipuric's understudy
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Re: NEW SIGNINGS
by Guest Fri 03 Jan 2014, 3:04 pm
It is fair to say he probably isn't going to get selected for Wales understudying Tips. I get loyalty, but then he should look at Rhodri Jones' alleged stance and not get his head turned at all.
I wonder if he is represented by an agent and that's part of the problem (Fishing for new deals)?
I wonder if he is represented by an agent and that's part of the problem (Fishing for new deals)?
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Re: NEW SIGNINGS
by Jhamer25 Fri 03 Jan 2014, 3:06 pm
That's a shame, the Dragons will still be strong with Lewis Evans and Cudd though. It happened last season as well with that South African lock who was suppose to have signed for the Dragons.
Just use the money to but a bigger/ stronger front 5 now.
Just use the money to but a bigger/ stronger front 5 now.
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Re: NEW SIGNINGS
by munkian Fri 03 Jan 2014, 3:10 pm
Its a pitty but not the end of the world for us, I suspect an agent is involved somewhere
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Re: NEW SIGNINGS
by Seagultaf Fri 03 Jan 2014, 6:32 pm
dragon999 wrote:I believe all regions have historic debt i.e. the Dragons have the debt incurred by Mr Hazel & Mr Brown for the Bisley facility which they underight & is now paying it's way very well by all accounts - Think the O's & Blues may be in small profit going by something i read in the WM the other day but again i belive they too have historic debt for varying reasons - Scarlets mmm not sure to be honest,people say they are up to their eyes in it,others say not.
Only the Ospreys escaped the historic debt, as both their founder clubs (Swansea & Neath) declared bankruptcy. I suspect that the Dragons are the only Region even close to breaking even at present and that's because they have a much lower self imposed salary cap than the other Regions. The Ospreys are still paying the price for their Galaticos days, I seem to remember reading that they lost £2M last season!
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Re: NEW SIGNINGS
by Jhamer25 Fri 03 Jan 2014, 11:34 pm
Seagultaf wrote:dragon999 wrote:I believe all regions have historic debt i.e. the Dragons have the debt incurred by Mr Hazel & Mr Brown for the Bisley facility which they underight & is now paying it's way very well by all accounts - Think the O's & Blues may be in small profit going by something i read in the WM the other day but again i belive they too have historic debt for varying reasons - Scarlets mmm not sure to be honest,people say they are up to their eyes in it,others say not.
Only the Ospreys escaped the historic debt, as both their founder clubs (Swansea & Neath) declared bankruptcy. I suspect that the Dragons are the only Region even close to breaking even at present and that's because they have a much lower self imposed salary cap than the other Regions. The Ospreys are still paying the price for their Galaticos days, I seem to remember reading that they lost £2M last season!
I agree with dragon999 thought, i'm pretty sure i read something about the dragons breaking even/ or near to even
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Re: NEW SIGNINGS
by Cardiff Dave Sat 04 Jan 2014, 12:04 am
mrzimmerman wrote:The key quote from Sam says it all;
"I am 100 per cent committed to the Ospreys and I'd like to apologise for any confusion caused by recent statements which coincided with a brief period of uncertainty on my part,"
Bit of a lower scale Xavier Rush incident I'd say.
Except Xav was going to move to a better team, but didn't in the end and I believe it cost him big bucks to stay where he was in Penarth, Cardiff.
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Re: NEW SIGNINGS
by Cardiff Dave Sat 04 Jan 2014, 12:12 am
Jhamer25 wrote:Seagultaf wrote:dragon999 wrote:I believe all regions have historic debt i.e. the Dragons have the debt incurred by Mr Hazel & Mr Brown for the Bisley facility which they underight & is now paying it's way very well by all accounts - Think the O's & Blues may be in small profit going by something i read in the WM the other day but again i belive they too have historic debt for varying reasons - Scarlets mmm not sure to be honest,people say they are up to their eyes in it,others say not.
Only the Ospreys escaped the historic debt, as both their founder clubs (Swansea & Neath) declared bankruptcy. I suspect that the Dragons are the only Region even close to breaking even at present and that's because they have a much lower self imposed salary cap than the other Regions. The Ospreys are still paying the price for their Galaticos days, I seem to remember reading that they lost £2M last season!
I agree with dragon999 thought, i'm pretty sure i read something about the dragons breaking even/ or near to even
I guess Cardiff will be the only team out of the 4, making a profit then and the new grass cost £400k.
Did the WRU pitch in?
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