The FA Cup

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Sat 4 Jan - 15:22

First topic message reminder :

Well, nothing on here much for discussion so thought this could begin.

At the moment Westisbest is probably pulling his hair out, whilst Wigan are marching on towards there second FA Cup in a row.

by **hampo17** Sat 12 Apr - 20:13

Champagne_Socialist wrote:beating the fa cup champions who are also a european team this season is a good result. Yes we won on penalties but Wigan did nothing all game apart from score a penalty.

Good result and good performance don't go hand in hand though.

by socal1976 Sat 12 Apr - 20:14

hampo171 wrote:
socal1976 wrote:
hampo171 wrote:Socal, people are saying you played awful today which is true. You've struggled past a Championship team and rightfully deserve to be criticised, however if you go and win it then fair play to the players. But right now, looking back on that 120 minutes, you played like a distinctly average team.

Yes we struggled, but I think were very unlucky to even be in that shootout. There were a couple of good saves by their keeper, a ball cleared off the line and we hit the woodwork twice. I am not looking past Hull, they have played well enough and have good players to beat us. I am happy the players held their nerve and we are in a cup final. So shoot me for being happy about it. Frankly we haven't looked good in league in recent weeks but that isn't what we are talking about right now.

Thing is mate when we talk about how poorly you played recent form is going to be discussed. You can say you were unlucky, but when we hit the post about 100 times a few seasons ago nobody talked how unlucky we were, just how poorly we played and that we couldn't score.

It wasn't a classic performance by any means, I never said we were brilliant and CS didn't either. Wigan deserves the respect for being champions and for being in the semis of the FA cup, which they aren't getting in my opinion. These teams are not easy to put out of cup competitions. Especially, one who has been unbeaten in their last 12 Fa cup matches coming into this one.

by Guest Sat 12 Apr - 20:15

socal1976 wrote:
FreekShow wrote:So we're not allowed to make criticisms of a PL big gun struggling past a Championship side in the FA Cup in the FA Cup thread because that team happens to be Arsenal?

Okay then.

Say whatever you like it doesn't change the fact that we are in the final. In fact, I encourage all the Arsenal critics to be as cynical and nasty as possible till May. If we win it ,then it makes it all the much sweeter.

We're neither cynical or nasty and if you take us as such then you need to stop being such a tart!

Good luck to you in the final.

by CFCNick Sat 12 Apr - 20:16

HAHAHA!!!!

https://twitter.com/Troll__Football/status/455061747745828864

by socal1976 Sat 12 Apr - 20:16

CFCNick wrote:
socal1976 wrote:
FreekShow wrote:So we're not allowed to make criticisms of a PL big gun struggling past a Championship side in the FA Cup in the FA Cup thread because that team happens to be Arsenal?

Okay then.

Say whatever you like it doesn't change the fact that we are in the final. In fact, I encourage all the Arsenal critics to be as cynical and nasty as possible till May. If we win it ,then it makes it all the much sweeter.

Get over yourself Socal. Great, you're in the final. Don't get big headed, defensive, and act like world beaters though. You really aren't.

Big headed, please I am very realistic in my assessment of the team. We have been in poor form in the league but I am happy to be in an FA cup final. World beaters? Who ever made this claim? Enjoy building strawmen it seems.

by NickisBHAFC Sat 12 Apr - 20:17

Social, serious question here.

Do you think Arsenal have had a successful season? I for one as a neutral think they have underachieved again, even more so with the money they spent on Ozil.

by socal1976 Sat 12 Apr - 20:18

FreekShow wrote:
socal1976 wrote:
FreekShow wrote:So we're not allowed to make criticisms of a PL big gun struggling past a Championship side in the FA Cup in the FA Cup thread because that team happens to be Arsenal?

Okay then.

Say whatever you like it doesn't change the fact that we are in the final. In fact, I encourage all the Arsenal critics to be as cynical and nasty as possible till May. If we win it ,then it makes it all the much sweeter.

We're neither cynical or nasty and if you take us as such then you need to stop being such a tart!

Good luck to you in the final.

Thanks and I hope you guys get over on City and Chelsea for the league. Be like old days Arsenal winning the cup and LFC taking league and United finishing 7th that would be wonderful.

by socal1976 Sat 12 Apr - 20:21

NickisBHAFC wrote:Social, serious question here.

Do you think Arsenal have had a successful season? I for one as a neutral think they have underachieved again, even more so with the money they spent on Ozil.

I have put my criteria down, if we win the FA cup and finish 4th yes we will have had a successful season. Especially, when I consider the ridiculous number of key and lengthy injuries we have had. I know people don't like it when a fan brings up injuries but to deny that it can or can not impact a teams form is wrong. If we don't do BOTH FA cup and Champion's league qualification then no it won't be successful.

by Guest Sat 12 Apr - 20:23

socal1976 wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
socal1976 wrote:
FreekShow wrote:So we're not allowed to make criticisms of a PL big gun struggling past a Championship side in the FA Cup in the FA Cup thread because that team happens to be Arsenal?

Okay then.

Say whatever you like it doesn't change the fact that we are in the final. In fact, I encourage all the Arsenal critics to be as cynical and nasty as possible till May. If we win it ,then it makes it all the much sweeter.

We're neither cynical or nasty and if you take us as such then you need to stop being such a tart!

Good luck to you in the final.

Thanks and I hope you guys get over on City and Chelsea for the league. Be like old days Arsenal winning the cup and LFC taking league and United finishing 7th that would be wonderful.

Socal, I am in the "Wenger needs to go" camp because I really do think you need a fresh approach and you're better than your past few years showing.

I'd like to see you back up there mounting serious challenges for league titles because you are Arsenal football club for gods sake and you should demand better than you have been getting.

I don't hate Arsenal one bit. Now come here you Hug

by NickisBHAFC Sat 12 Apr - 20:25

Roy Keane nail on the head there, what a man.

Arsenal players should not be celebrating like that, they just beat a Wigan side. Even we beat them! That says how ordinary Wigan are!!!

by GSC Sat 12 Apr - 20:27

Shouldn't you be down the pub by now?

by Champagne_Socialist Sat 12 Apr - 20:27

NickisBHAFC wrote:Roy Keane nail on the head there, what a man.

Arsenal players should not be celebrating like that, they just beat a Wigan side. Even we beat them! That says how ordinary Wigan are!!!

you're boring

by Guest Sat 12 Apr - 20:28

GSC wrote:Shouldn't you be down the pub by now?

Nick's not drinking tonight. He said so in the PL thread yesterday.

You didn't lie to us did you Nick?

by **hampo17** Sat 12 Apr - 20:30

Not sure why people get so touchy when people on here give their opinion about a game. Nick has merely pointed out what Roy Keane said and added his opinion to it. It's his post in the Arsenal thread that makes him look a silly boy Wink

by GSC Sat 12 Apr - 20:30

Maybe he's having a pink lemonade

by socal1976 Sat 12 Apr - 20:31

FreekShow wrote:
socal1976 wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
socal1976 wrote:
FreekShow wrote:So we're not allowed to make criticisms of a PL big gun struggling past a Championship side in the FA Cup in the FA Cup thread because that team happens to be Arsenal?

Okay then.

Say whatever you like it doesn't change the fact that we are in the final. In fact, I encourage all the Arsenal critics to be as cynical and nasty as possible till May. If we win it ,then it makes it all the much sweeter.

We're neither cynical or nasty and if you take us as such then you need to stop being such a tart!

Good luck to you in the final.

Thanks and I hope you guys get over on City and Chelsea for the league. Be like old days Arsenal winning the cup and LFC taking league and United finishing 7th that would be wonderful.

Socal, I am in the "Wenger needs to go" camp because I really do think you need a fresh approach and you're better than your past few years showing.

I'd like to see you back up there mounting serious challenges for league titles because you are Arsenal football club for gods sake and you should demand better than you have been getting.

I don't hate Arsenal one bit. Now come here you

Well Freek, I agree we should be challenging for league and I desperately want Arsenal to win the European Cup you greedy lot got what 5 or 6 I lost count. Either way the Wenger leaving question is more complicated. If we have a top coach lined up who can attract players with his CV and the team fails in the FA cup final and fails to make it to Europe I would agree with you. But it will be very hard for me to support him leaving if he wins the cup and then lets say finishes 5th god forbid. Maybe it would be a fitting way for him to go out. I want to see how we finish and take it from there. But I am generally not in the Wenger out camp. It is all riding on the cup final for me really.

by **hampo17** Sat 12 Apr - 20:33

Someone like Martinez would have been a good replacement for Arsenal Socal, plays superb football so that would have carried on and the Arsenal name would attract players. Maybe Klopp from Dortmund could replace him if he'd leave.

by socal1976 Sat 12 Apr - 20:34

hampo171 wrote:Not sure why people get so touchy when people on here give their opinion about a game. Nick has merely pointed out what Roy Keane said and added his opinion to it. It's his post in the Arsenal thread that makes him look a silly boy

I actually don't care, as I said I enjoy it. It makes the cup final that much sweeter if we win. And I am not looking past our opponents either they are good side and can beat us.

by Guest Sat 12 Apr - 20:35

Guardiola 0-3 Klopp today. Would be a nice fit with the German collection already established aswell at the Emirates.

by mystiroakey Sat 12 Apr - 20:36

To be honest the win was abit like Bayern beating man u. No one had a pop at them for celebrating

by socal1976 Sat 12 Apr - 20:37

hampo171 wrote:Someone like Martinez would have been a good replacement for Arsenal Socal, plays superb football so that would have carried on and the Arsenal name would attract players. Maybe Klopp from Dortmund could replace him if he'd leave.

Yes I would be happy with either. But like I said I think if Arsenal do finish top four and do win the FA cup, which I think we can on both fronts I would support Wenger if he decided to stay. But I don't want a David Moyes of our own.

by Champagne_Socialist Sat 12 Apr - 20:38

We all know the Arsenal hate on this board is not actually Arsenal legit, it is a smokescreen for people trying to attack me and socal.

by **hampo17** Sat 12 Apr - 20:39

CS, don't talk out of your bum hole Very Happy

by socal1976 Sat 12 Apr - 20:40

mystiroakey wrote:To be honest the win was abit like Bayern beating man u. No one had a pop at them for celebrating

What team wouldn't celebrate coming through penalty kicks to go to cup a final at Wembley? I don't care if your opponent is St. Mary's school for girls they managed to be in the semis of the FA cup so they can't be that urine poor. It was a stupid comment, Keane is opinionated sometimes he is right sometimes he is wrong.

by Champagne_Socialist Sat 12 Apr - 20:42

hampo171 wrote:CS, don't talk out of your bum hole

I honestly do believe that and someone else mentioned the same thing earlier.

by mystiroakey Sat 12 Apr - 20:43

Keane is an idiot. You are in a final and the team was buzzing

by Hammersmith harrier Sat 12 Apr - 20:43

mystiroakey wrote:To be honest the win was abit like Bayern beating man u. No one had a pop at them for celebrating

Little bit different Mysti, bad season or not we're still a scalp and Bayern won't forget 99 until they beat us in the final.

by mystiroakey Sat 12 Apr - 20:44

Yes Harrier but everyone celebrates getting through a tight quarter or semi

by Hammersmith harrier Sat 12 Apr - 20:44

hampo171 wrote:CS, don't talk out of your bum hole

And im the one who got banned for derailing the football section?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 12 Apr - 20:45

Arsenal fans here's the question

4th and no FA Cup or 5th and win the cup?

Which one of those two would you prefer? (I obviously know you'd prefer 4th and the cup)

I think Wenger needs to go at the end of the season, it'd be best for him and Arsenal. They're just stagnating, get someone like Klopp in while you can

by **hampo17** Sat 12 Apr - 20:46

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
hampo171 wrote:CS, don't talk out of your bum hole

And im the one who got banned for derailing the football section?

Did you? Nothing to do with me mate, and there is nothing sinister in that post. Having posted several times that people take things to personal on the football board it gets boring retyping it. Much easier to put that way.

by GSC Sat 12 Apr - 20:46

And Wigan were the holders having won at City. If you're really having a pop at a side for celebrating winning a semi final on pens you need to take a long hard look at yourself.

by Champagne_Socialist Sat 12 Apr - 20:47

Olly wrote:Arsenal fans here's the question

4th and no FA Cup or 5th and win the cup?

Which one of those two would you prefer? (I obviously know you'd prefer 4th and the cup)

I think Wenger needs to go at the end of the season, it'd be best for him and Arsenal. They're just stagnating, get someone like Klopp in while you can

Honestly I'm hapy with Wenger this season, obviously if we finish 5th serious questions will be asked but if we finish 4th and win the cup I think every Arsenal fan will be happy.

by Hammersmith harrier Sat 12 Apr - 20:47

hampo171 wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:
hampo171 wrote:CS, don't talk out of your bum hole

And im the one who got banned for derailing the football section?

Did you? Nothing to do with me mate, and there is nothing sinister in that post. Having posted several times that people take things to personal on the football board it gets boring retyping it. Much easier to put that way.

Wasn't having a pop at your comment Hampo, I agree with it 100% but seems odd I get banned for apparent trolling yet Socal and Dior can bleat on about a collective conspiracy against Arsenal.

by **hampo17** Sat 12 Apr - 20:48

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
hampo171 wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:
hampo171 wrote:CS, don't talk out of your bum hole

And im the one who got banned for derailing the football section?

Did you? Nothing to do with me mate, and there is nothing sinister in that post. Having posted several times that people take things to personal on the football board it gets boring retyping it. Much easier to put that way.
Wasn't having a pop at your comment Hampo, I agree with it 100% but seems odd I get banned for apparent trolling yet Socal and Dior can bleat on about a collective conspiracy against Arsenal.

Oh, sorry mate thumbsup

by GSC Sat 12 Apr - 20:48

To be brutally honest I'm more tired of seeing the same CS and Socal vs the world debate than any personal attacks.

by **hampo17** Sat 12 Apr - 20:50

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:Arsenal fans here's the question

4th and no FA Cup or 5th and win the cup?

Which one of those two would you prefer? (I obviously know you'd prefer 4th and the cup)

I think Wenger needs to go at the end of the season, it'd be best for him and Arsenal. They're just stagnating, get someone like Klopp in while you can

Honestly I'm hapy with Wenger this season, obviously if we finish 5th serious questions will be asked but if we finish 4th and win the cup I think every Arsenal fan will be happy.

Do you not have concerns that you have gone to Liverpool, City, Chelsea, and Everton conceded 26 goals and scored just 4?

by socal1976 Sat 12 Apr - 20:50

Olly wrote:Arsenal fans here's the question

4th and no FA Cup or 5th and win the cup?

Which one of those two would you prefer? (I obviously know you'd prefer 4th and the cup)

I think Wenger needs to go at the end of the season, it'd be best for him and Arsenal. They're just stagnating, get someone like Klopp in while you can

5th and cup.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 12 Apr - 20:50

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:Arsenal fans here's the question

4th and no FA Cup or 5th and win the cup?

Which one of those two would you prefer? (I obviously know you'd prefer 4th and the cup)

I think Wenger needs to go at the end of the season, it'd be best for him and Arsenal. They're just stagnating, get someone like Klopp in while you can

Honestly I'm hapy with Wenger this season, obviously if we finish 5th serious questions will be asked but if we finish 4th and win the cup I think every Arsenal fan will be happy.

Really CS? Cos to me I see Wenger now and this is a shadow of the manager he used to be. I honestly think Arsenal will be better amicably splitting post season (on the back of the cup win, I wanna see arsenal win it so no conspirator here), then getting a new man in to try and establish yourselves as one of the dominant teams not only in England but also Europe

by Hammersmith harrier Sat 12 Apr - 20:50

hampo171 wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:
hampo171 wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:
hampo171 wrote:CS, don't talk out of your bum hole

And im the one who got banned for derailing the football section?

Did you? Nothing to do with me mate, and there is nothing sinister in that post. Having posted several times that people take things to personal on the football board it gets boring retyping it. Much easier to put that way.
Wasn't having a pop at your comment Hampo, I agree with it 100% but seems odd I get banned for apparent trolling yet Socal and Dior can bleat on about a collective conspiracy against Arsenal.

Oh, sorry mate

Even as a United fan i'm well and truly in team Liverpool for the rest of the season, lets hope your lot carry on our good work taking the soulless money boys on and beating them. I won't enjoy it being 20-19 but City winning would be horrendous on every level while Mourinho has yet again just thrown money at a team.

by **hampo17** Sat 12 Apr - 20:51

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
hampo171 wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:
hampo171 wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:
hampo171 wrote:CS, don't talk out of your bum hole

And im the one who got banned for derailing the football section?

Did you? Nothing to do with me mate, and there is nothing sinister in that post. Having posted several times that people take things to personal on the football board it gets boring retyping it. Much easier to put that way.
Wasn't having a pop at your comment Hampo, I agree with it 100% but seems odd I get banned for apparent trolling yet Socal and Dior can bleat on about a collective conspiracy against Arsenal.

Oh, sorry mate
Even as a United fan i'm well and truly in team Liverpool for the rest of the season, lets hope your lot carry on our good work taking the soulless money boys on and beating them. I won't enjoy it being 20-19 but City winning would be horrendous on every level while Mourinho has yet again just thrown money at a team.

We could be in luck mate, Kompany was carried out of training today after Micah Richards took him out Very Happy

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 12 Apr - 20:52

socal1976 wrote:
Olly wrote:Arsenal fans here's the question

4th and no FA Cup or 5th and win the cup?

Which one of those two would you prefer? (I obviously know you'd prefer 4th and the cup)

I think Wenger needs to go at the end of the season, it'd be best for him and Arsenal. They're just stagnating, get someone like Klopp in while you can

5th and cup.

I'd agree Social here

by mystiroakey Sat 12 Apr - 20:53

Palace on form. And I have this feeling we could do arsernal a favour and take out everton

by Champagne_Socialist Sat 12 Apr - 20:53

hampo171 wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:Arsenal fans here's the question

4th and no FA Cup or 5th and win the cup?

Which one of those two would you prefer? (I obviously know you'd prefer 4th and the cup)

I think Wenger needs to go at the end of the season, it'd be best for him and Arsenal. They're just stagnating, get someone like Klopp in while you can

Honestly I'm hapy with Wenger this season, obviously if we finish 5th serious questions will be asked but if we finish 4th and win the cup I think every Arsenal fan will be happy.

Do you not have concerns that you have gone to Liverpool, City, Chelsea, and Everton conceded 26 goals and scored just 4?

Yes it has been a massive disappiontment but I try to look for the positives and we beat tottenham 3x this season, beat liverpool twice this season and are unbeaten at home against chelsea, man u and man city. Our away form is a worry and it is our away form against the big teams which is why we are 5th.

by socal1976 Sat 12 Apr - 20:53

hampo171 wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Olly wrote:Arsenal fans here's the question

4th and no FA Cup or 5th and win the cup?

Which one of those two would you prefer? (I obviously know you'd prefer 4th and the cup)

I think Wenger needs to go at the end of the season, it'd be best for him and Arsenal. They're just stagnating, get someone like Klopp in while you can

Honestly I'm hapy with Wenger this season, obviously if we finish 5th serious questions will be asked but if we finish 4th and win the cup I think every Arsenal fan will be happy.

Do you not have concerns that you have gone to Liverpool, City, Chelsea, and Everton conceded 26 goals and scored just 4?

If we are in the Champion's league and win the FA cup that will ameliorate my concerns greatly.

by CFCNick Sat 12 Apr - 20:58

CS you are the most deluded man in the world.

by Champagne_Socialist Sat 12 Apr - 21:03

CFCNick wrote:CS you are the most deluded man in the world.

I think Chemical Ali is a little more deluded than myself.

by socal1976 Sat 12 Apr - 21:05

Nick, CS makes valid points we have had a couple of bad lopsided defeats it doesn't eliminate the good things that CS point out. If Arsenal win the cup and get into CL most fans would be happy that is hardly chopped liver.

by Hammersmith harrier Sat 12 Apr - 21:06

He's dead so highly doubtful.

by socal1976 Sat 12 Apr - 21:08

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
CFCNick wrote:CS you are the most deluded man in the world.

I think Chemical Ali is a little more deluded than myself.

LOL!

I think they killed Chemical Al so maybe that as why you top the list CS.

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